Re: Which is worse?
WYSIWYG650 is clearly a NetApp guy! El Reg should do a features comparison between NetApp HCI and Nutanix. It would be a hoot. :D
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I'm a little baffled how Qumulo could crack the Leaders' quadrant. I'd expect them to be in the Visionaries quadrant, I think. I've met with them several times. Nice people, promising product, but as of this writing, they're missing enterprise-class features, particularly for those firms with strict security, auditing and data protection requirements. I don't doubt that those features will be coming down the pike someday, but they're simply not there now. Is it possible that Gartner only considers scalability and performance? Qumulo looks pretty solid as far as those two items go.
Anyway, congrats Qumulo! That's a big deal for a relatively recent start-up!
When it works, WebEx is still the best. So light and stream-lined. You hop on a Skype or GoToMeeting conference and you really find yourself missing WebEx. Goofy pop-up windows, circus-like color schemes..blech! But WebEx has been struggling with technical issues for the past year. Not sure what's going on there.
Took a hard look at ExaGrid. Just couldn't see the benefit. At the time (2016), a full, non-deduplicated copy of all of the backup data had to sit in a "landing zone". They brag about it (faster restore!), but where are the SAVINGS, exactly? I'd have to buy petabytes of their disk to protect my environment. Interested to hear satisfied ExaGrid admins chime in. ***DISCLAIMER: All of this may have changed since 2016***
Commvault's a neat company. Their best trait is their aggressive compatibility with other companies' products. The one issue I see for them in the current environment is the declining cost of disk storage. They're at the point now where their licensing is more expensive per TB than the disk! What made sense when disk was $8 or $9/GB makes no sense at all when disk is $1/GB. This isn't Commvault's fault, but I think that they're going to need to figure out how to deal with it.
I wish them well, because it's pretty amazing software!
"HPE might decide its top-end array strategy is flawed with both the XP (OEM'd from Hitachi) and 3PAR systems ill-suited for the future, and decide to look to buy better tech. Who else but Infinidat is there?
The next 12 months could be very interesting for InfiniDat."
This is my nightmare scenario right here. May it never happen!
"People ask about cost - I can't tell you specifics, but I can give you ratios. Compared to my OVERALL EMC average cost per TB, InfiniDat was half the price. When compression was enabled, I was realizing 2:1 compression on ingress data, moving my price to 1/4 that of EMC."
This is the big story here. PRICE it. POC it. PURCHASE it.
You say: "I have been to greater than 300 customers in the EXACT same area that are running Nimble (one of which is of the above couple running Infinidat by the way, but needed an ultra-low latency platform so they bought a Nimble AFA)."
As I look through this thread, I think I'm the only contributor who actually owns Infinidat systems. I can assure you that we did not buy Nimble (though their analytics are pretty awesome!). :D Apologies if I misunderstood your post!
@zbmwzm3 - Unfortunately, I don't think I'm permitted to say. I always tell the Infinidat guys to brag about the price, but, for reasons that I can't divine, they seem reluctant to do so. You should have one quoted for you. You'll be gobsmacked! When you take price, performance, reliability and customer support into account, you simply can't beat Infinidat.
On a 1PB F6230, we're averaging <1ms on reads, and ~.35ms on writes. I don't know if we'd see better performance from an AFA from one of the MegaCorps, but it's more than fast enough for my use case, and I KNOW it's cheaper than the other options.
I'm bullish on Infinidat.
We have two of their F6000 systems, and couldn't be more pleased. Cheap, fast, uber-reliable and the best customer support experience I've ever had. It's been a game-changer for us.
My only fear is opening El Reg some Wednesday morning and reading something like: "HPE Gobbles Up Dense Disk Dealer Infinidat for 2.2B". *chills*
I'm an Infinidat customer.
We own two F6230s, and are looking at picking up a few more.
I don't actually know (or care) if an Infinidat F6230 is faster than an all-flash VMAX. With our workload, ALL writes are sub-millisecond, and average reads are below a millisecond.
They are faster than any other large-scale storage systems we have ever owned.
Price is the compelling story for us. A fully loaded Infinibox F6230 is a fraction of the cost of a VMAX. Infinidat doesn't emphasize this in their public statements enough, IMO. They need to start bragging about the pricing. I challenge anyone interested in testing the waters to apply for a quote. You'll be gob-smacked!
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