* Posts by W.S.Gosset

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God of War: How do you improve on perfection? You port it to PC, obviously

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Re: How do you improve on perfection?

> I do not know how you managed to get it to render upside down without telling it do so.

Alt-DownArrow, isn't it? Shortcut for a MSWindows "accessibility" option very bizarrely enabled by default, apparently for people who want _immediate!_ ability to suddenly stand on their head and continue working without a moment lost. Alt-leftorright-arrow to rotate accordingly 90⁰.

I can easily see the Alt key getting accidentally co-pressed while flailing in a frenzied moment.

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Trollface

> PC = Personal Computer [...]

Let's not forget what it actually means ...

Pshaw. Next you'll be telling me that Macintoshes have windows.

China reveals draft laws that heavily restrict deepfakes

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Most Chinese wouldn't understand the reference

Hair-raisingly, non-old mainlanders know nothing about that event. If a Hong Konger etc tries to tell them, they eye-rollingly dismiss it as Western propaganda.

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Freudian slip

> the draft does outline extensive regulations on how digital assets must be safeguarded to prevent user privacy.

In related news, Faceboogle announced that it has bought China.

Crypto outfit Qubit appeals to the honour of thieves who lifted $80M of its digi-dollars

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Re: The protocol was exploited by 0xd01ae1a708614948b2b5e0b7ab5be6afa01325c7

"You are 0xd01ae1a708614948b2b5e0b7ab5be6afa01325c7 and I claim my ten... Oh, he's gone."

When forgetting to set a password for root is the least of your woes

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Or to get around catastrophically stupid and/or ignorant "design" by the IT provider/dept.

My favourite: ~1998 reporting a stolen credit card (mail intercepted) at the Chelsea police station. The lone PC there was sitting there typing (hunt&pecking) the report into their expensive custom-built police system, and the phone rings. He picks up a tightly-folded battered-looking little square wodge of paper from beside the keyboard, wedges it into the gap between the spacebar and the surrounds, and goes and picks up what turned out to be a lengthy phonecall.

As he went back to his desk I asked him what on earth the paper + spacebar thing was all about.

Turns out the IT architects/developers never bothered talking to actual policemen, let alone watching them as they did their jobs. And "for security" they put a short timeout on every data entry screen : stop typing for a minute and you'd lose the lot.

Well, their job is filled with unschedulable interruptions. And they'd worked out that if you jammed the spacebar it'd keep firing in keystrokes and keep the screen alive. When they could come back to it, they'd just hit Tab (and trailing whitespace was trimmed), then Shift-Tab, and go back to typing where they left off.

US Navy in mad dash to salvage F-35C that fell off a carrier into South China Sea

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I believe the Mustang was actually a British plane.

The Brits designed it, taking into account the deficiencies of the pre-war designed fighters for the new role the air war had evolved into (esp. long-range escort), along with what they'd learned about high-speed combat (viz.you can almost disregard manoeuvrability -- most fighter-vs-fighter kills were high-speed surprise attacks, and running away beat defensive fighting, cf FW190) (thingummy the major Spitfire test pilot said the Mark V (IIRC) was the best plane to fly, but the later ones were better weapons, eventually vastly better (dull to fly though (by his standards))).

The design was passed to the Americans for manufacturing. I believe subsequent mods were all American.

Bouncing cheques or a bouncy landing? All in a day's work for the expert pilot

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Re: In the pilot's defense...

Fair enough. "To each his own."

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Re: Serial to VGA? All you need is an adapter!

(I am baffled by the downvotes)

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Re: Serial to VGA? All you need is an adapter!

I had to do something even more ludicrous to look at, a long time ago.

I wanted to access a current-spec SCSI drive via a near-original spec SCSI Mac, without an expensive converter. I had a daisy-chain of variously accumulated interstitial-spec drives, gradually stepping up the SCSI spec via each's N-1 backward-compatibility port using each format's standard cables, until finally reaching the heady heights of the last drive. ISTR either 5 or 6 drives due to the port+cableplugs matches I had available to hand. All drives unpowered except the final: boot the Mac and the drive mounts.

Lovely jubbly. I loved SCSI -- made everything so simple. Never understood these people moaning about "the dark art" of "trying" to get SCSI to work -- baffling.

The result was a genuinely hilarious Rube Goldberg spectacle of mismatched cables&arcs (hard heavy sky-reaching armoured bows and consumer-"grade" rats-tails snaking around) and mismatched boxes+naked-server-sleds, mad piled+placed due to the armoured-cables' stiffness mandating some distances/available arcs. Final drive (necessarily on a high pile of books, as were a couple of others) beside the Mac so I could casually reach the power switch. Everyone who saw it did a massive double-take, and another when they realised it genuinely worked perfectly -- always amused me.

Ran like that for years. Because it made me smile every time.

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Re: In the pilot's defense...

The standard French line is: "It is the most intelligent car."

Which I found, like yourself, quite hilarious the first time I heard it.

But then you take a close look at it. Especially the way it's engineered-in solutions for real-world uses and problems. From the famous "can a farmer take his eggs to market across bumpy fields without breaking any?" (Yes), to the ability to drive casually on snow/ice that defeats most 4WDs, to the ability to disassemble it for repairs using almost no tools (single spanner + screwdriver, IIRC; a lot of things just twist & lift out). And... yeah. It's brilliant.

The Swiss Army Knife of cars.

Engineers in particular love it, as do farmers. ISTR it was MythBusters who did an episode on an "obviously bullshit" story about it (breakdown in desert, chap using only the built-in toolkit disassembled & rebuilt it as a pseudo motorcycle and drove out). And they laughed at and mocked the car. By the end, they concluded (a) 100% possible, (b) what a brilliant car.

You're both Engineer and Farmer, jake! You should get one! The ultimate backup machine for when even the steam engines are stuffed. :D

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Re: In the pilot's defense...

That's what the pilot/plane does just before landing.

Crack team of boffins hash out how e-scooters should sound – but they need your help*

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Night-time

Whatever sound is selected, it needs to have a night-time volume & pitch reduction. Same as your phone switches down brightness and colour-temperature for the different context.

Otherwise, that reasonably-audible high pitched beep (or whatever) will be teeth-grindingly loud, and piercing/carrying, in the relative quiet of the evening and night. They would turn into a plague for everyone with ears within 100m of their entire path, as opposed to only the people physically & proximally in one moment of their path as at present.

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The batteries remain unrecyclable according to the recycling industry.

There IS work being done on this. But the only companies operating are going $backwards operationally and ripping through VC money (subsidised).

So for the foreseeable future, @~10yrs the batteries go into landfill. That's about half the car by weight.

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Re: Certainly something with the wheels

Playing Card in the Wheels' sound struck me as a good option, too.

It's more than 20 years since Steps topped the charts. It could be less than that for STEP's first fusion energy

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Re: @Alan Brown:

I'm sorry, mate, you need to start paying proper attention. Parrotting a subset of meme sheets then sneering at fantasy-people-in-your-head doesn't cut it.

For a jaw-dropping example, you state you are completely unaware of all the apocalyptic pronouncements re, yes, corals being unable to form their homes. Due to ocean acidification due to rising atmospheric CO2. You're unaware of this?, that's fine (if...utterly bizarre if you've paid any attention at all to the topic)(implying that you haven't but just ran to your meme sheets to find out what to say), but it's a very good idea not to hop in and insist that because you know nothing about it, that everyone else is stupid and narrow-minded and an arrogant foolish pawn of socialmeeja.

Now, you are attempting to panic about bleaching. But then demonstrate that you know nothing about it other than what you've found to copy-paste.

You're clearly unaware of the absolute debacle of AIMS, JCU etc trying to beat up drama about the catastrophic apocalyptic bleaching of Australia's Great Barrier Reef, for example. Which brought to light spectacular incompetence (their survey methodology) but also extensive deliberate lying. Hint: most times anyone checked their surveyed bleached areas, they were found to be unbleached, but that they looked bleached from the air if travelling overhead in an aeroplane (which is how they do the surveys). Hint: the same bleaching was found in 1930 when scientists first looked in-large -- ~45yrs before AGW started (they blamed farmers). Hint: and again the next time they looked in the mid-1960s -- decade before AGW (big global cooling at the time, actually) and this time they blamed crown-of-thorns starfish. Latterly, they've jumped on the AGW bandwagon (AND the farmers again) because there's a LOT more money in it. To create the drama, they've had to hide a whole lot of data. (If you had ever looked at AGW "science", you would immediately recognise that trick -- pioneered by the CRU and used to great effect.) And also they had to lie about the new data. They acknowledged this in a Senate investigation, btw -- do feel free to look into it. Might be time to start doing some genuine reading rather than confining yourself to approved religious propaganda.

Amusingly, when the UN bodies paid attention to their screaming and drama, and announced they were going to pull the reef's UN Heritage status and impose penalties etc because it was being destroyed, the "scientists" (AIMS, JCU, etc) flipped 180° and admitted they'd been bullshitting. This got drilled into in the Senate.

Can bleaching occur? Yes. Absolutely. It happens a lot. Always has. It requires a very very specific and very transient/unstable combination of atmospheric conditions (completely stationary, for a start), wave conditions, and drought onshore. Basically, if onshore has a drought, then an uncommon and transient combination of offshore conditions can bleach surface coral. And they start regenerating immediately the winds start again, and very quickly if the rains come, on land. The biggest problem researchers have in practice with bleaching is finding enough of it that's heat-created to justify nontrivial work on it. Try talking to them -- I have. One of them described the necessary atmospheric conditions as "almost lensing", btw, to give you an idea of how unusual.

Is bleaching unusual in the greater scheme of things? The 340,000+ square kilometres greater scheme of things? Well, Captain Cook reported seeing large areas bleached in the 1700s (not a lot of AGW back then). And it's been a consistent theme amongst people living on those coasts ever since -- every so often, chunks get bleached. I personally first heard a tourist complaining about seeing bleaching in the early 70s. Pre-AGW, to be clear. So, no, it's not unusual across a region nearly 3 times bigger than England. It's just a normal thing.

Now, even by AIMS' own data, their big bleaching drama coupla years ago was a debacle, as their maps quietly showed that the previous year's "catastrophic" bleaching had completely recovered the following year, which itself showed "catastrophic" bleaching but all in different areas. The 2 areas together would mean that, according to you, the vast majority of the Great Barrier Reef was dead.

So what _actually_ happened? In real life? Well, AIMS had to cough up actual data to the Senate. They'd been publicly and internationally banging the drama drum about the catastrophic loss of reef over the last decade, and that it didn't have long to live unless Urgent Crisis Action!. But upon the _actual_ data being extracted from them, it was discovered that :

* the Northern region hadn't changed,

* the Central region had more than doubled,

* the Southern region had tripled.

All during a period of --according to Gavin and Phil via GISS & HadCruT-- soaring global warming.

"Whoops"

Now, really, anyone sane would have absolutely expected it to be fine re temperatures, because that reef has happily survived the Mediaeval Warm Period (hotter than 2100's worst case per IPCC) ~a thousand years ago, the Roman Warm Period (much hotter than today) ~2 thousand years ago, and the wotchamacallit Warm Period (Mesopotamian, it's on the tip of my tongue) which was profoundly hotter than 2100's worst-case prediction: anyone banging the drama drum re temperature carnage is clearly an idiot.

The most "at-risk" reef in the world as "temperature soars", is actually growing. Growing quite a bit.

The Great Barrier Reef is clearly a denialist.

I'm a trained researcher, btw, read research for fun, and I discovered in 2004 to my extreme shock and complete inversion of beliefs-up-to-that-point that the entire body of AGW rests on fraudulent foundations. I've not yet found any honest work supporting it. Please don't parrot religious memes at me and expect to be taken seriously -- do some work. Here's a simple exercise to get you started: a renewable "proof" hosing down a "false" theory -- took me around 30secs to discover it fraudulent. See how you go.

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Re: Mixed feelings

Yup. Drawn, Hanged, and Quartered. Attached to a hurdle and dragged through the streets, hanged by the neck until dead, then divided and the quarters distributed and displayed for the populace.

Hung, Drawn, and Quartered, instead, specifies that MPs will be fitted with large penises before being sketched in pencil by the parliamentary artist, then found somewhere to sleep.

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Re: Oh, I forgot to mention clathrates

Another way of looking at it is:

If it was going to happen, then it _certainly_ would have _already_ happened, around the time William the Conqueror invaded England.

And again before then, during the Roman times.

And again before _then_, during the Mesopotamian times, when it was a couple of degrees further hotter than even 1066.

So, relax: all holocene life on Earth has already been irrevocably wiped out by methane clathrates 3 times, twice in recorded history. You're already dead --you were never even born-- along with ~all life on Earth.

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Oh, I forgot to mention clathrates

> we have less than 40 years before methane clathrate deposits

I was quite concerned myself when I first heard of this 20-odd years ago, and of the catastrophic tipping point.

But apart from a tiny shallow surface layer (max.200m), an oddity of the world's oceans is that the temperature globally is entirely uniform. And constant. And low: IIRC ~4⁰C. (Lower near the ocean floors. ~2⁰C IIRC.)

When I say "constant": that temperature didn't budge in the slightest during the recent decades' run-up in land-surface temperatures.

(My personal suspicion is that it's related to the minimum-volume of water: water expands either side of around that temp. If so, that would imply Earth's gravity is a strong negative feedback for changes in that temp. And it would certainly explain why it's settled at that odd temperature.

But that's just my own suspicion. No idea if it's right.)

Now, permafrost land regions of say Alaska and Siberia certainly are drenched in released methane every summer. Explosively so, in parts.

But on a real-world big-boy-pants basis, ~all of the currently-stable methane clathrates are in the ocean. And below the shallow surface layer.

Meaning that not only do they have a decent way to go to reach their pressure-increased melting point, but that the entirety of the world's deep oceans, globally and uniformly, needs to be lifted that far for any of them to melt.

That's one hell of a heat-sink. (Run the numbers for some real astonishment; currently at equilibrium with ~2,000 Hiroshimas per second hitting the surface.)

Unless you're secretly an elf or a spirit of the mountain roots, I suspect your genetic line will have mutated into space-native diaphonous filaments looking back from Sagittarius with radar eyes and a vague curiosity at an expanding red giant, before it happens.

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@Alan Brown:

Relax, mate. Remember, England saw its first ever snow (for at least 600yrs of then-records, anyway) in about 1400AD, the year before Agincourt.

(Classic line by a monk in one of the circulated records at the time: "There was chaos on the roads". :D Ur-culture is very sticky.)

It was so bad and so intense that there was even a light dusting of snow seen as far south as the Norfolk Broads!, though that melted almost immediately.

For non-Brits reading this: it's now pretty routine for the _south coast_ to be beautifully blanketed with snow.

And it was hotter than the IPCC's worst-case scenario for 2100AD when William the Conqueror invaded England.

Polar bears are a lot older than that, according to paleontologists. Implying that they didn't get wiped out, nor did they evolve magically fast in the centuries since then.

Our current corals evolved their hard "shells" at 650ppm, despite the AGW priests wailing that all coral is shortly to die due to CO2-driven ocean acidification. And they continued laying down hard coral all through the subsequent rise in CO2 to over 2,000ppm.

The catastrophism being scweamed and scweamed and scweamed all falls apart in your hands if you examine it closely.

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the Secretary of State at the Department of Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy

AKA DBEISknees

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Only one? Sounds like Hitler to me.

Court papers indicate text messages from HMRC's 60886 number could snoop on Brit taxpayers' locations

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Re: Funny...

Reminds me of that old joke:

Q: Why did Karl Marx never drink Twinings?

A: Because proper tea is theft.

How can we recruit for the future if it takes an hour to send an email, asks Air Force AI bigwig in plea for better IT

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"If you sent them to SpaceX for two weeks, I think a lot of people's heads would explode."

"No no no, put them INside the spaceship!

"Gahhhhh...too late...

"For god's sake, Kanaan, this sort of thing is exactly why we don't trust you with a proper PC."

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Big Biscuits

Eye-rolling aside, though, just by way of $perspective, say half the DoD needs a new box, so ~700,000 boxes, at say $1,500 for bulk(!)buy of decent boxes that might last more than 5yrs or even run Win11, well that adds up to a shade over A Billion Dollars.

That's more like 5 to 10 F-35s.

Quite a large amount to spend on non-pointybangy things. Particularly when the people making the decisions will never actually see anyone so lowly in the normal course of things, let alone talk to them.

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Air Force's Chief Information Officer Lauren Knausenberger

'Head of IT says, "MY machine works fine." '

Hardware boffin starts work on simulation of an entire IBM S/360 Model 50 mainframe

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Re: Dev Tools?

Right on cue, and (now) right above your post...

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Re: TMMM

Teenage Mutant Minjer Merkel

Machine needs more Learning: Google Drive dings single-character files for copyright infringement

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Yeah, kinda fell between 2 stools there. In the states, "professor" has been degraded as a title to encompass lecturers and, from what I can gather, even tutors. Whereas in the commonwealth, "professor" is maybe a couple per department, "reader" is basically a professor without a "chair" -- deputy god rather than god.

Twelve years after Intel was fined $1.2bn for unfairly running over rivals, an EU court says: No need to pay

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Whuff

> The ruling suggests that EU trustbusters won't be able to constrain corporate behavior if alleged misconduct fails to fit within the limited definition of competitive abuse under EU law

My initial reaction to this was: "well, HELL yeah, they can't just make shit up as they go along: the agreed powers/conditions are the agreed powers/conditions."

But then I looked at the Treaty section's wording, and... it is in fact entirely open-ended. It formally specifies that they CAN just make shit up as they go along. The conditions' list is purely examples, listing up-front definite uses of a general wide power but not restricting that general wide power.

But then there's the weird "is it or isn't it" possible collapse of all authority unless the actions-of-interest explicitly create a problem with (only) inter-country transactions: " in so far as it may affect trade between Member States." -- is that supposed to be (a) a general wank flourish or (b) a scope definition? If (b), it implies 0 power for the EU in controlling market abuse in ~any normal situations.

But then there's the oddity that (assuming (a)) the Intel situation looks to be a simple case of list item (c): "(c) applying dissimilar conditions to equivalent transactions with other trading parties, thereby placing them at a competitive disadvantage;"

What a schemozzle.

Saved by the Bill: What if... Microsoft had killed Windows 95?

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Devil

Re: For me it was a one-off, quickly discarded.

"BBC Master"?

You're not remembering using a computer. You're remembering skiving off watching Dr Who!

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> Has anyone ever met a print driver programmer?

They all shoot themselves. It's very sad.

European silicon output shrinking, metal smelters closing as electricity prices quadruple, trade body warns

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Re: Gas

OK, I have an update and finalisation.

My digging showed 2 problems, not 1 (the others match):

* Copper's implied volume is Under actual, by ~4.5x.

* Lithium Carbonate's (LCE) implied volume is Over actual, by ~50%.

So I went to the source, and just received an email from Richard.

Copper is in fact a cockup. The 2,362,500 tonnes for the cars is correct but he made a transposition error in annual global production equivalence which wasn't noticed until it was published. So the UK-alone copper impact is "around 12%" "The mistake was mine"

They published the corrected version (my 2nd NHM link above), and I can now see the bloody 12% right there in the first paragraph, but neither it nor the original are flagged as correction/corrected so I missed the difference originally, thought it was just a less-bulletpointed version. Poo. Here it is again: https://www.nhm.ac.uk/press-office/press-releases/leading-scientists-set-out-resource-challenge-of-meeting-net-zer.html: "Leading scientists set out resource challenge of meeting net zero emissions in the UK by 2050 | Natural History Museum"

He spoke only to my direct question re Copper, perhaps not noticing LCE in the table, but on crosschecking for changes (none), a penny dropped. The LCE "discrepancy" was my own error in reading: his first number refers to LCE but his market equivalence is to plain lithium itself, the metal. Which would explain the different tonnages.

Bug Status: Resolved.

He also sent me a paper which I'm looking forward to reading tomorrow. What a nice chap.

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Re: re: Windmills are rubbish.

> there's a plant in the US southwest desert that has been making a go at it

Yeah, that's the location of the only other full-scale one I was aware of. But if it IS the one I'm thinking of, then it's a financial disaster, too, like the EU's one.

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Re: Payback-Period is longer than the panels' lifespan

>> PV Solar Panels typically only last ~10 years.

> Cobblers. 25 - 30 years is standard and 50+ years expected.

Cobblers yourself. We've had a fair whack of solar in Australia for quite a while, for obvious reasons, and despite the industry's upfront promises (such as you quote here), what we're seeing in real life is what I said. ~80% at 8yrs, then collapse after that.

2 public debacles I'm aware of, built while I was out of the country for 20yrs: my old uni and the city council. Both built high-virtue public installations with virtue-display boards proudly displaying their power generation.

I walked into the uni building at lunchtime in Queensland's summer/January: no clouds and walking in the sun was like being beaten with a bag of nails. Very impressive and very proud big display board explaining how virtuous the whole building was, with maps and moving diagrams of airflows, waterflows, etc, and re solar you could tap down a couple of times and see the current solar output. 2 X banks each about 40m X 10m.

~730 watts. I boggled, exited & re-entered coupla times -- no change. Came back 2hrs later: 680something. Over the year I checked in occasionally: same but creeping lower. Finally they just pulled the plug on the display panel.

The council one likewise at lunchtimes proudly announced an awesome 300W. In summer. Saw it every other day: same. Then it went blank for a week or so, and reappeared, proudly announcing it could now boil 2 kettles at lunchtime. New panels.

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Re: Gas

("your claim" --> Prof Herrington's claim)

Well well well. My initial reaction was "what on earth are you talking about -- someone intra-industry with his info resources plus going for a major loud public splash with the full banner of the Natural History Museum, is not going to balls up a major but simple number like that." But a quick ddg on the phone shows me several sites quoting the same ~20m/yr for the last fistful of years. His number requires ~4.5m denominator.

This casts his entire analysis into doubt. Makes it seriously suspect, in fact.

I'm going to have to crawl every number, verifying and validating. That's going to have to wait till I'm by a computer plus have spare time. Hopefully this afternoon.

I'd thought that despite him being apparently an AGW Greenie, the fact that he was thinking through consequences made him an exceptional exception, and combined with his industry-insider position plus high promotion in a historically high-quality institution, that that implied quality of numbers. Prima facie, based on your discovery, it's not looking good for him.

(All I can think of beyond cockup or incompetence, is that Prof Herrington's aware of and quoting volumes for a specialist sub-group of copper required for electronics. Similar to chip-grade silica vs total silica volume. I was under the impression the overwhelming bulk of production was ~homogeneous 99%+ copper cathodes with little practical distinction, but I've never looked into it.)

Well spotted, anyway -- thanks. Surprising what you find when you start levering up the floorboards, isn't it? :D

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Re: "sad and silly rant"

> kids get taught about how the Age of Sail gave way to steam

Be interesting to keep track of the changes in the When of that, that they're being taught.

I've had some surreal conversations recently with younger folk who've been taught in their Climate Crisis classes(?) that the Little Ice Age peaked (nadired?) mid 1800s and the Industrial Revolution started in the late 1800s. Each has got quite agitated and superior when I suggested neither was remotely the case.

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Happy

Re: Germany is dependent on coal

But the Germans do turn their exhausted open-cut coal mines into very nice lakes when they're done.

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Payback-Period is longer than the panels' lifespan

Just a note re "So it would take 80 years to pay for itself" or with explicit subsidy of the wealthy by the poor: "19 years" (thank you, plebs! Glad you know your duty to your betters!)

PV Solar Panels typically only last ~10 years.

Power output is typically ~80% at 8yrs, then falls off a cliff.

(The standard retail marketing graph in Australia re panel longevity rather amusingly cuts out at 8yrs for this reason.)

So even with the fawning financial support of the plebs, they still need further subsidies to break-even.

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Re: re: Windmills are rubbish.

> I wonder if a solar salt reactor would work in England?

The EU spent a tremendous amount of money to discover it wouldn't work even in Spain. So I doubt England could make a go of it.

Actually, last time I looked, _no_one had ever succeeded in making a real-world-scale salt solar plant economically viable, even at subsidies high even by renewables' standards. Anyone know offhand if that's changed in the last coupla years?

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Re: Gas

My cockup, sorry -- late at night, I stated UK context then World figures. Full explanation & apology & correct numbers & links to source, in this post just above.

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Re: Gas

I'm very strongly environmental myself, but I find that the people declaring they're Green are, as I said, operating in Disney comic-book world, and also have never ever thought about the consequences of the changes they're demanding. Virtue-display's the important thing. You say strawman. I say I have never yet met a "green"ie who's even been aware that gas/coal/oil has any effect or use other than creating the apocalypse because carbon and human greed, let alone made a considered proposal to save it for the industrial feedstock they utterly rely on.

> Do you have any kind of source on those Mining Monthly numbers?

I'm in the library at the moment so I've just gone and checked and it's the August 2021 issue, p48. But buggered if I can find it online. And the site itself has a Proper paywall (miners tend to be seriously IT savvy) which blocks http://12ft.io's workaround so I can't search directly on it.

But anyway, he was just quoting the Head of Earth Sciences at (UK's) Natural History Museum, Professor Richard Herrington.

A-aaaaand on re-seeing my notes:

I cocked up. I joined nose-to-toes, started with the UK context but quoted the World figures. Crap. My apologies. The UK will "only" require HALF of the world's supply of Copper. I do beg your pardon. I tend to post at the far-end of the day, and in this case I was clearly too tired and muddled 2 different sets of numbers. My apologies again -- that's shit.

I mean, it's still an absolutely ludicrous quantity and will smash the price upwards. But I quoted you the wrong numbers.

Here are the right numbers for the UK's plans in isolation:

There are currently 31.5 million cars on the UK roads, covering 252.5 billion miles per year.

If we wanted to replace all these with electric vehicles today (assuming they use the most resource-frugal next-generation batteries), it would take the following:

* 207,900 tonnes of cobalt - just under twice the annual global production

* 264,600 tonnes of lithium carbonate (LCE) - three quarters the world's production

* at least 7,200 tonnes of neodymium and dysprosium - nearly the entire world production of neodymium

* 2,362,500 tonnes of copper - more than half the world's production in 2018

And here are various links to Dr Herrington's analysis and warning:

Tree Hugger: https://www.treehugger.com/why-electric-cars-wont-save-us-there-are-not-enough-resources-build-them-4857798

Natural History Museum: https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/news/2019/june/we-need-more-metals-and-elements-reach-uks-greenhouse-goals.html

Natural History Museum again: https://www.nhm.ac.uk/press-office/press-releases/leading-scientists-set-out-resource-challenge-of-meeting-net-zer.html

Green Car Congress: https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/06/20190624-uk.html , which also has a nice quote from source:

Over the next few decades, global supply of raw materials must drastically change to accommodate not just the UK’s transformation to a low carbon economy, but the whole world’s. Our role as scientists is to provide the evidence for how best to move towards a zero-carbon economy—society needs to understand that there is a raw material cost of going green and that both new research and investment is urgently needed for us to evaluate new ways to source these. This may include potentially considering sources much closer to where the metals are to be used.

—Prof Richard Herrington

I have one minor issue with his analysis: the kneejerk urge to pronounce his name as Dr HerringtongIddleIPo.

W.S.Gosset

Re: recycled glass

And yet you didn't ask for a citation re "(and yet potentially most energy efficient)".

Pity. If you had, you'd have discovered that actually glass recycling offers only decent but not excellent energy savings: for every 10% recycled glass feedstock, energy savings are only 2-3%. So, even at 100% recycled: max 20-30%. [2020 numbers]

My source for what I said: a number of commodity conferences' (physical, upstream thru to downstream) presentations and roundtable participations by large recycling companies, over about 4 years. They were at the time (few years back now) also speaking very optimistically about the increasing rigour of govt-mandated retail-level pre-sorting of their own supplies, lending itself to serious benefit from high-volume auto-sorting (optical, x-ray) meaning that quality of the recycled output feedstock could lift sharply and let the industry lean harder into high-$premium applications like bottles and containers. But a repeated theme was that the public/PR thinks X re recycling but really it's Y (eg, actual total recycling rates way lower than PR's cherrypicked announcements): recycled glass at industrial scale/volumes was not anywhere near the quality it theoretically could be. And yes: roadbeds and fibreglass and so on were where the industry's Volume was going.

Re something you can look at yourself: I just spent some time scouting about for industry information at this granularity ("application by volume/kilotonnage"). To get the current internal industry numbers AND a shareable citation would cost me between US$7,000 and US$10,000 (or $3-5k for an "unprintable PDF" -- made me laugh :). So, sorry, no can do.

I can see the $value of bottles+containers has soared since those conferences, though, so maybe that source-presorting is having the bulk quality shift they hoped for. Hmm.

UK, Australia, to build 'network of liberty that will deter cyber attacks before they happen'

W.S.Gosset

Re: The Oz government under Morrison has screwed up every challenge set to it

Too right. Whitlam, Fraser, Keating(!!), Rudd, Turnbull : truly towering contempt for the plebs.

W.S.Gosset

AUKUS, the acronym

We're trying to get Ruritania on board so it'll be RAUKUS.

At the moment it sounds like a poked parrot.

Why should I pay for that security option? Hijacking only happens to planes

W.S.Gosset

Re: Would they ever...

Come to think of it.... would also be useful to apply peer pincer-movement. Go to the _mortgage_ provider and tell them your bank has their money but illegally paid it into the wrong account. "Can you please give them a quick ring and ask them to sort it out? Just a 'friendly reminder' sort of thing. Save us both a lot of hassle."

Micro-behaviourally, this has the effect of the bank staff realising that their wider/industry _peers_ know about it. And this qualitatively elevates it from a customer irritation/cover-up (such as you received), to a professional embarrassment which is known about outside their insulated fortress walls.

Takes them from insulated to insolated.

W.S.Gosset

Re: Would they ever...

Just for future reference: the bank was in deep legal/regulatory shit for paying that amount into the wrong account. Even if the cheque was uncrossed, unless Leccy man physically walked it down to the bank and cashed it then deposited that cash, that cheque may not be paid to a third party (must be the legal payee to sign over to another payee).

So your restitution route is to loudly and angrily hammer the table in the _bank_, and threaten to go straight to the regulator. They'd be done like a dinner so they'd jump. And they would be expected by the regulator to _immediately_ make good your account and to retrieve the incorrect money in their own time. And they know that so they'd do that. This would have allowed you to immediately rewrite&send the correct mortgage cheque, avoiding penalty.

Oh well. "Next time..."

By the bye: that route is also a standard scam tool, if selling on eBay or whatever. They pay, you send the item, then when they receive it they simply contact PayPal or credit card company or whatever and protest the charge. PayPal/CCco/whoever _immediately_ reverses/retrieves the payment from your account, leaving the scammer with both their money and your item

'Please download in Microsoft Excel': Meet the tech set to monitor IT performance across central UK government

W.S.Gosset

Re: @Eclectic Man:

It's a bit like the old joke about the recipe for Rabbit Soup.

"First: catch your rabbit."

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Nearly all the commenters are talking about the cooking, while these spreadsheet guys are talking about hunting the rabbit.

W.S.Gosset

@Eclectic Man:

Well said.

'95% original' film star Spitfire could be yours for a mere £4.5m (or 0.05 Pogbas)

W.S.Gosset

Re: Ground Attack

I remember one of the pilots describing how, as they belted along just above the buildings, he looked up and saw one of the other mozzies directly above him, and dropping lower. So he went lower, and they went lower, and... and he did the last of the run actually flying down the street _between_ the buildings with another chap just above him.