* Posts by Mike Moyle

1543 posts • joined 8 Feb 2007

Apple iPhone 3G

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@jai Re: re: Wish list - cut & paste

"how would you implement the "cut and paste" on a system with no keys and only finger input?

"first, you need to find a way of allowing the user to select a chunk of text. presumably, you'd put two fingers on the screen at the start of the first word, and drag the second finger to the end of the last word. that would highlight them."

You do it the way my old Newton 2100 did it, IIRC: Put your finger (stylus) at the start point, drag across and down to the end, then hit a handy "copy" icon. Go to where you want the copied item, tap the insert point and tap "paste".

Contextual menus mean you don't need to "<command>-keystroke" common functions

Personally, if Apple would simply make a device that had the functionality of my old Newton -- run multiple programs at once, "freeze" inactive programs to free-up memory, handwriting recognition (I had the late-model OS and am one of those that generally had quite good results with the HWR -- possibly because my normal style is a sort of "connected printing"), memory cards for storing data, etc. -- with the nice screen and wi-fi, I would be all over it. I'd even prefer something with a slightly larger physical screen than the current model (DAMN these fifty-mumble-year-old eyes! Zoom/squeeze/pan are fine, but they DO add extra steps.). Since I generally wear a jacket or such with large pockets I am not wedded to the idea that my gadget(s) MUST fit into a shirt-pocket.

But, then, I'm old-fashioned that way; I don't like concentrating everything down to one all-encompassing point of failure. I have a 'phone that I make calls on and a music player to... well... play music on. And if someone steals my player, I can still call the police. (And if someone steals my 'phone... well... at least I have music to relax me while I go down to the police station!<gr>) I would be more than happy to add a third item if it was a palmtop with the functionality and ease of use of OS X.

Criminal record checks could hit over 14 million people

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An easy solution:

If the Gov has to pick up the tab for vetting volunteers, then the solution would be for ANYONE who thinks that they might apply for a job demanding a check take a volunteer gig first. The government then pays for all CRB checks and... okay, here I'm probably being overly optimistic... rethinks the need for the whole megillah.

(Yes, I know: they'd probably just decide to start charging for those checks... but one can hope, can't one?)

Woman finds Lithuanian living in shed

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I have a solution.

Perhaps the poor fellow should get in touch with Arthur Jackson.

I hear that he has two sheds; surely he can spare one!

Google out-visions Jobs on Mac roadmap

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@Marvin the Martian

Personally, I've always hoped that they'd go all out with their numbering:

"...requires OS X.III.IV or later...", "...currently at OS X.V.IV...", etc.

I mean, there's something to be said for consistency, after all!

King Arthur was English 'propaganda', French claim

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"Arthurian legend has continually been updated, often as a sop to English nationalists..." like those ardent English nationalists Marie de France and Chretien de Troyes...

Available to buy: your own frakkin' 7ft Cylon

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Re: Vultures? Cateagles? Nah. . . & Re: S:AAB

@ Robert Davis

QX, mate!

@ Chris McKinnon

Another SF show that Fox batted around the schedule and never promoted worth a damn... Great stuff, though.

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Re: @AC & Spelling

"Oddly the merkins believe it is better to have tried and failed than to have not tried at all... consequently an attempt to spell correctly is better than not attempting to use words at all... so bravo well done.. you tried."

We just don't really feel the need for certain extraneous letters. We WILL use them when appropriate.

Ex: labour/labor, colour/color

What point does that extra "u" serve, here? When pronouncing "four" vs. "for", the former has more of a short "oo" that the latter's "oe"; that is, it is pronounced (slightly) more like "foor" than "fore"

Do you folks really pronounce the "u", or is it silent? That is, do you generally pronounce as "laboor" and "coloor" (with the short "oo"), or do you pronounce, as we do, more like "labore" and "colore" with a "long-o" vowel sound of shortened duration? (This is NOT intended as snark; I'm actually curious as to whether those "u"s are actually pronounced.)

"In the same vain getting it wrong in Iraq was better than not doing anything! Oh and locking up an inocent man is better than not locking up anyone."

As has been mentioned before and often: never criticize/criticise another person's language without checking your own. I presume that you meant "In the same VEIN..." (...although getting involved in Iraq was both vain -- that is, availing of nothing -- and vain -- as in the vanity of one man who wanted to prove that his were bigger than his Daddy's!)

...And I have to admit: it *IS* true that your police don't go about randomly locking up innocent Brazilian electricians in the London tubes, so I guess that puts you one up on us! ;-)

"and heres some new Merkin corruptions...

Soldering is now pronounced 'sodering'"

Actually, we pronounce it more like "soddering"; your version (using standard "single-consonant-after-a-vowel" rules) would more likely be pronounced "SOE-dering", which I don't believe ANYONE here uses. (And again; no snark being intended, but do you folks on that side of the pond actually pronounce the "l"? "SOLL-dering? That just sounds odd to me.)

"a bot (as in robot) is pronounced 'bolt'"

Nope. Never heard that one -- neither "bolt" nor "boat"; always pronounced as "bott". I'm not saying that NO ONE does; just that I've never heard it.

Then again, we have so many regional accents in this country that the story is told that, back in WWI -- before radio and movies had started blurring regional pronunciations -- the U.S. Army 's non-coms were largely from the mid-west as they were the ones who could translate the orders from the largely northeastern officer corps and pass them down to the largely southern enlisted rank-and-file. (I don't actually KNOW that that's true, but it is claimed.)

Granite Jesus, blessed be thy gneiss

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So, it appears from this...

...that His next appearance will be dancing at Chippendales'!...

Eco-activist gets tougher with gadget makers

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While the concept is okay...

...the execution of that chart is TERRIBLE!

As a graphic designer and a follower of the work of Edward Tufte ("The Visual Display of Quantitative Information"), I have to take exception with the format of that chart. According to the numbers, for example, Nokia had one point deducted -- from a score of 5.8 to 4.8. On a scale of 1 - 10, that is a 10% loss. However, because of the way that Greenpeace presents the scale -- some sort of bizarre double-ended-logarthmic thingie -- the arrow showing the start and end points takes up about 25% of the span of the dial, making the drop LOOK much more severe.

The majority, even if they read the article and look at the numbers, the immediate impression of the graphic will take cognitive precedence over the numeric text.

This is a badly designed misleading graphic. (Whether it was intentionally badly designed to give a particular impression is left as an exercise for the reader.)

Automated profiling tech is crap, says Home Office

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"It is likely that with more effective use of intelligence,..."

'Nuff said.

Oh, wait... this is government.

Never happen.

Vauxhall launches virtual backseat driver

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Not really sure who this is targeted at...

Based on their sign-reading graphic, the camera appears to be angled towards seeing signs on the RIGHT side of the road.

Maybe the target market is Brits who plan to drive somewhere off-island and will need to be reminded of where to look for the road signs...?

Just guessing... It's the only way that their graphic makes sense, unless Vauxhall plans on selling an awful LOT of vehicles overseas...

Net addiction a 'clinical disorder', says US shrink

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Net Addicted?

Need Help Quitting?

Go to www.StopNetAddiction.org for more information.

Al-Qaeda targets net-connected coffee machine

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Re: Windows of course...

"From the linked article 'Best yet, the software allows a remote attacker to gain access to the Windows XP system it is running on at the level of the user.'

Paris, as even she wouldn't put XP on a coffee machine"

Maybe they chose XP because it's the smilie that most clearly describes the coffee it makes...?

Malware not man blamed in child abuse download case

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Just to put the issue to rest...

For anyone who doesn't know the area, the Boston Herald is the conservative tabloid competitor to the more liberal broadsheet Boston Globe. Formerly owned by Hearst, then Murdoch, it is now owned by an ex- News Corp. exec but pretty much maintains its "Fox News"-like slant.

If THEY'RE saying that an accused KP-er was declared innocent without using words like "defense shenanigans", "sham" or "miscarriage of justice", then you can be pretty damned sure that he WAS innocent!

Apple takes the operator's shilling

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@ Heystoopid

"Sad really , when you think about it , let the blood sucking out of a stone feast continue , as the other one point one billion new users avoid that dumb trap !"

Ummm... the aphorism that I THINK you're referencing is, "You CAN'T get blood from a stone," so... to what "feast" are you referring?

("Sad really , when you think about it," however, may be accurate, since I'm trying to use logic on a "Heystoopid" post, which even I'LL admit is pretty sad!)

MPs urge action as spooky caller ID-faking services hit UK

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Just remember...

"Spookcall founder Royce Brisbane defended the service today, saying he had sought advice on whether the caller ID spoofing was legal under UK law prior to launching the service."

Any time that someone feels that they have to state that they're within the *letter* of the law, it's a tacit admission that they are in violation of the *spirit* of the law.

(Skull and crossbones because I'd not be overly upset if these schmucks were to see one of these peering up from the bottom of their latté cups some morning!)

US nuke boffins smash petaflop barrier with 'Roadrunner'

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@ Steven Raith; @ Paul Bottomley

Re: China rumoured to be working on rival....

Fortunately, having named their computer "Coyote", it'll always blow up when it loses...

Re: @ The elephant in the room

...and they're telepathic, too; vis. "Homo Saps" by Eric Frank Russell, who warned us about them well before Mr. Pratchett caught on to their little tricks!

What hell hath science wrought lately?

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Re; EEE PC Chimera-babe

...so how many breasts do sheep have?

(...Drops a quarter in the old jukebox and punches up D4 for the Flamingos singing "I Only have Eyes for Ewe"...)

Second ISS spacewalk runs on rails

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Extraterrestrial Kibology...

...The mind boggles.

CSC cranks the whalesong up to 11

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@ ShaggyDoggy

...Ah, but -- you see -- it's a "container", so it can't be a brick, but a HOLLOW rectangular object with the letters floating in the middle of it.

Which gives us the accompanying slogan to sit under the logo:

"CSC: Thinking Inside the Box®"

(That'll be $17,000, please, for the re-re-branding... Cash, and in small bills.)

Peter Gabriel cranks his f*ck machine

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Re: Re: Ex-Guardian writer?

@ Chris Williams

Yes, but can one really trust as a grammarian someone who titles the page:

"The the 'hoi polloi' debate"

rather than:

"The 'the hoi polloi' debate"?


ISS toilet fails to suck

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Re: Or...

"... you could just have said plain and simple that "The s... hits the fan" :-)"

Well, no... The problem is that the shit's NOT hitting the fan, and they WANT it to. ;-)

Life a mess? The Moderatrix can help

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Dear Moderatrix:

I am an Illustrator/Graphic Designer and the sole Mac-user in an office full of PCs running predominantly Windows 2000 and XP. Somehow, I have found myself in the position of being the department's Alpha-Geek and having people come to me to solve their computer problems for them, rather than waiting for a call to the MIS HellDesk to be answered. MIS has me explicitly included as an Administrator on a number of the computers here.

Short of causing someone grievous bodily harm or inducing their computer to start playing a disco remix of "The Song That Never Ends" at threshold-of-pain levels, how do I get them to stop waking me up... uh... that is... stop keeping me from my regular work?

NB: They DO appear to have enough native cunning (or naiveté) that the sign on my door that says "Beware of the Leopard" doesn't seem to dissuade them. Should I get an actual leopard? If so, how do I get around the fact that this is not a "pet-friendly" workplace?

CBS saves CNet from activist investors

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Re: "Building new verticals!"

...Does that translate to English as "Up yours"?

Bulletproof quantum crypto dinged by implementation weakness

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Should have seen it coming, actually...

" The underlying reason for this is that the authentication used, which is insensitive to such message changes when the key is unknown, becomes sensitive when used with a partially known key."

...so the message is in a box and is both alive and dead until someone uses the crypto-key to look into the box.

Dr Schrödinger would be so proud!

Royal Navy warships could run on sunflower oil - if fresh

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It's just not fair...!

"However, useable biodiesel can also be made from the jatropha plant, which can grow in deserts where nothing much else will."

...and who owns most of the deserts...?

OPEC wins, again!

MS whips lens cap off WorldWide Telescope

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So, is David Letterman going to sue...?

...Because it definitely sounds like it's WorldWide Pants!

Oh, and @ Sarah Bee: One's response was priceless!

Retailers risk libel nightmare over 'no-work' database

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Well, if they made it completely fair...

... You know, like if they gave prospective employees access to the database and included information:

... like listing managers who promise benefits then just "accidentally" never have enough hours available for you to qualify...

... like listing managers who hire for one job but give assignments that should be done by a higher-level and don't pay accordingly...

... like listing managers who expect services outside of normal workplace duties ("Can you run out and pick up my dry-cleaning...?")...

... like listing managers who expect "services" (*WinkWinkNudgeNudge*) outside of normal workplace duties...


Hardly useful, then.

The battle of Lesbos: Exclusive combat pic

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@ Solomon Grundy; @ Dave

@ Solomon Grundy

"I hope these reenactments are a regular feature of El Reg. A bit of exclusive material is exactly what is needed and these are better than BOFH by a long shot."

Agreed on point 1, MORE of these...

But, "...better than BOFH by a long shot"? Them's fightin' words!

@ Dave

"(To the tune of "Good Ship Venus")

'Twas on the good ship Navratilova..."


Well done, Sir!

Dogs reduce allergies in kids

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Re: Old news

"Penguin because its fur contains dust and germs and little bitey things."

Actually, if penguins have made the evolutionary leap from birds to mammals, that probably rates as NEW news! (...or were you having a go at the personal hygiene of Linux programmers?)

Lightning-zapgun maker gets more US gov cash

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@ Andy ORourke

"laser-enhanced electric plasma lightning blaster cannons"

Who wouldnt want one of those?

Perhaps this'll be the next Bruce Willis series: "LEEPL Weapon"!

El Reg visits Hyderaspace and sees bullocks, giant rabbits

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Nice pictures

1 - "...Call 007 SHANTY TOWN"...? Were the rude boys wailin' a' shanty town?

2 - That lawn had a sign identifying the "Safe Zone". Was that marking the "keep off the grass" area or the "keep away from the exits" area?

3 - That rabbit has a door in his butt...

The thought that someone has to occasionally open that door and reach into the giant rabbit's ass is just creepy.

...and not in a good way.

Governator outs Dubya's global-warming 'time bomb'

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Nice to see...

It's good to see that Arnold is serious about air quality, greenhouse gasses, and fuel economy.

Has he gotten rid of the Hummer, yet?

Spike Milligan goes mobile

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Ah, Dear Mister Milligner...


I agree with Chris Simmons - you are an evil bastard.

...Funny, though...!

OTOH - @Chris Simmons:

I don't care for baboons. "Try one of my chimpanzees; they're milder."

DARPA looking at 'Z-Wing' stratocruiser

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A couple of thoughts...

The assumptions here seem to be that these would be camera platforms and would only look straight down. At six miles up, curvature of the earth should give a horizon close to 120 miles away (? - too lazy to do the math...).

While resolution near the horizon would doubtless be crap for image-based intel collection, at altitude, several of these cruising in a path over international waters and South Korean territory could, in theory, put almost all of North Korea under surveillance. And the atmospheric blurring that might hinder photographic work at distance wouldn't affect signals collection at all.

UK Office of Government Commerce cracks one off

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I'm amazed!

"...not inappropriate to an organisation that's looking to have a firm grip on government spend!"

A Government spokesdrone with a sense of humo(u)r...?

Isn't that, like, one of the signs of the Apocolypse or something?

The American way of bioterror - an A-Z of ricin crackpots

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WExcuse me...?

"Michael Crooker, a Massachusetts man now serving time as a convicted felon, was arrested by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms in 2004 for sale of an air rifle equipped with a silencer."

Okay... I'm familiar with BB and pellet guns... The only other air-powered gun that I know of is a paintball type, which I've never used, so I'm not sure how loud they actually get...

...But a SILENCER on an airgun?!!?

That just seems so wrong.

El Reg celebrates 10th birthday

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Happy Birthday!

Congratulations, and thanks for all the fun/news/murdered brain cells!

Feds to collect DNA of every person they arrest

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Re: I really dont understand the arguments against DNA collection

I don't have the reference in front of me, but I've seen a line attributed to Lyndon Johnson that says (IIRC) "Never look at how much good a piece of legislation will do if it's well implemented; rather look at how much harm it will cause if it's poorly implemented."

This DVD will self-destruct in 48 hours

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Is there any chemical that will break down polycarbonates at room temperature that isn't also massively hazardous to the touch?

My guess is that the coating applied is one that hazes over as time passes, rather than one that actually breaks down the surface.

If that's the case, I wonder whether one of those gadgets for polishing minor scuffs out of CDs would be sufficient to remove the coating, restoring the disk to full-lifetime use...?

@ Sandpir8

"Even with the almighty dollar now relegated to the position of a pygmy vs. the Euro, us yanks (whilst jobless and subsisting on our public assistance cheques) can rent DVD for $1.00 / day. One dollar vs. six plus??? You do the maths!"

_We_ Yanks

1 - rarely say "whilst";

2 - may receive assistance _checks_, and;

3 - and studied _math_, not "maths".

Are you a ringer, or are you just trying to posh it up for the Reg?

London store brews £50-a-poop cat-crap coffee

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A few point...

To all the "Who'd pay £50...?" posters:

"The promotion runs until the end of the month, and >>>> all proceeds will be donated to Macmillan Cancer Support. <<<<."

It's a charity do. Read the frickin' article. It doesn';t NORMALLY cost that much.

@ Joseph Boren:

Are you sure you aren't thinking of Coors, rather than Budweiser? Not that Bud has anything to brag about, but Coors is the one that always used to brag about their Rocky Mountain water. (Pity they never added any beer-like components to the water... OTOH, it sounds like the rafters were at least adding the color for them!)

@ Sarah Bee:

I can take or leave caviar, but a nice bit of liver and onions, a kidney pie, or a nice tender beef-tongue sandwich (washed down with a Cel-Ray soda)... Yum! (Why, yes; my dietary habits *DO* make some people blanch...)

Never tried the cat-poo coffee, but I miss the "Monsooned Malabar" (Left out on the back porch to age during the monsoon months) that I used to be able to get here. Now THAT was a tasty coffee. Haven't seen it locally in several years...

Ofcom slaps Beeb for Live Earth swearing

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A couple of points...

I don't know about things in the UK, but on this side of the pond any live event used to be broadcast on a seven-second delay. It was still, effectively, real-time but was intended to give the director/engineer time to note the problem, switch to the delayed stream, and hit the squawk-button.

Does no one do this anymore...?

OTOH - I can see a BBC announcer reading the apology at 8:59:

"The BBC would like to apologize for broadcasting the word "motherfucker" during the family-viewing period. It was totally unaccept... (Errrmm... Just a moment... Are we allowed to say that... Oh, dear...!) Uhhm... Sorry about that..."

Botanist sues to stop CERN hurling Earth into parallel universe

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...so if the LHC goes online in May, 2008... then, allowing for, say, a few months of testing before they go for The Big One, 50 months for the Earth to fall into the black hole would put as at just about December, 2012...

Looks like the Mayans were right, after all

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If he served the the papers to his wife, as am officer of the corporation...

And appeared at the trial as an officer of the corporation...

And won a summary judgement against himself...

Doesn't that mean that he and his wife need to pay THEMSELVES the back salary, plus interest, plus whatever damages the court assigns, plus both sides' court costs?

Damn! They're gonna get so rich from this suit that they may have to declare bankruptcy!!

(...and now my head hurts...)

Aussie laser-pointer dazzle attacks on airliners: Bad

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@ Pete

"As was pointed out, laser beams spread. It's only a few milli-radians but the wider the beam, the lower the brilliance and the less dazzling effect. The further away the wider the beam and the lower the light intensity again. Inverse square - the effect falls off rapidly."

If I'm reading you correctrly, you believe that there could be no momentary dazzle at all from a laser passing across the pilot's eyes at distance? Because, as I see it (sorry) having spots in one's eyes, suddenly, in the final five or ten seconds before touching a 250-ton aircraft to the ground could be... disconcerting, at best.

You only need enough power to disorient or distract the pilots, not completely blind them.

Also, I don't recall any mention of the timing of these events but, if they took place at night, with the pilots' pupils somewhat dilated from looking at dimly-illuminated controls in a dimly-lit cockpit so as to not affect their night vision, the dazzle-effect from a laser COULD be significantly increased.

"Next, passengers not seeing the effect: The size of the window is irrelevant. Provided you are close enough - e.g. in the window seat your field of view is as good as a forward-looking pilot's. There should be some reports from passengers"

If the idiot with the laser is on the glide path, with the plane coming towards him, then the passengers looking out the side windows - which by definition, are pretty much parallel to the direction of flight and, hence, the laser beam - would be looking PERPENDICULAR to the beam, as opposed to the pilot who is looking basically TOWARDS it. Big difference. As an experiment, if you have a generic laser pointer, hold it perpendicular to your line of sight and shine it at the wall. Can you actually see the beam as it goes through the air? Unless you are in a dusty/smoky room, probably not, because the light is all moving in one direction, and not bouncing out at every angle possible. You generally need to have a fog, smoke, or similar medium to see any "beam" effect, making it unlikely (not to say impossible, but highly unlikely) that the passengers would see anything at all from a laser aimed from the front.

"Third, to actually illuminate a pilot, as has been pointed out you have to be virtually on the flight path. Someone under the aircraft or to the side can't see the pilot and (more to the point) the pilot can't see them, even out of the corner of their eyes."

Pete, the pilots are LOOKING DOWN AT THE RUNWAY ON FINAL APPROACH. Therefore, they are also looking at anybody who is, say, near either END of the runway.

As an example, I would suggest that you fire up Google Earth and look up LAX. The runways at Los Angeles International airport all run, basically, east-west since the prevailing winds come off the land during the day and off the ocean at night. At one end of the runways is the beach (with a parking area), at the other end is the San Diego Freeway, and then a residential area, with lots of windows for stupid people to sit in, looking straight down the runway at approaching aircraft, the flight-crews of which may be looking directly at them on approach.

"Nearly there.... I still don't buy the ability of a person to hand-aim a laser onto a moving target over a mile away for any significant time. It's simply not possible and I defy anyone to prove otherwise. As a benchmark, the moon subtends an angle of 0.5 degree - you can't hand-aim a laser at that for any time, let alone the front of a plane - let alone the pilot's window - let alone the pilot's eye - even for a millisecond, even if they weren't moving."

Again, you ignore the fact that, if the target is approaching the shooter then it is, for all practical purposes, stationary - making keeping the beam on target significantly easier.

I carry a small 15-power telescope - pretty much the highest power scope that I can use hand-held - in my jacket pocket. If I am riding down the highway in a vehicle, I can keep signs over the highway directly in front of me centered quite easily, while looking out the side window at something as we pass it is much more difficult. In the first case the position of the target remains almost constant relative to me, while in the latter it is changing rapidly.

Thailand cracks down on cut-price castrations

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@ Ashley Pomeroy

"What happens to all those testicles? Do they plant them in the ground?"

That's where Dick-taters come from.

T5 opening turns into Airplane 3.0

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If it's any consolation...

...You're making us feel much better about Denver International, thank you very much!

US Navy sails the open seas

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Let's get them out of the way right off the bat...

...shall we...?

"...CHIPS, the Department of the Navy Information Technology magazine..."

Do they include articles on "Chips of the Line"?

...paeans to "men who go down to the sea in chips..."?

...recommendations on keeping your intranets "chip-shape and Bristol-fashion"?

So what's the easiest box to hack - Vista, Ubuntu or OS X?

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I'd like to see one additional piece of data.

What would make this particularly interesting to me is if the sponsors had some way of tracking the number of discrete attacks on each machine during the contest.

That is, at the point that laptop "A" gets pwned, I'd like to know what number of attacks it sustained, compared with "B" and "C".

I don't suppose that it would really make a difference, I'd just find it interesting to see it graphed out, since it would presumably imply something about the contestants' mindset - which one they felt they were likeliest to be able to get into.

On the other hand, it might be really amusing if some attacker managed to "piggy-back" on another's work - either intentionally or inadvertently - an independent attack by attacker "X" that strikes right after attacker ""Y" has caused a buffer overflow, say, but before "Y" can follow up on it... I'd suggest a Texas-Cage match to see who gets to take the laptop home, in that case.

Of course, if someone were REALLY devious, they could spend the duration of the event trying to subvert all of the other contestants' machines on the network while they are all busy frantically trying to break in to the "official" target boxes. That way, the "winner" might go home with a new laptop, but the REAL winner would "go home" with fifty!

Three questions for the Jesus SDK

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What I'd be curious to see...

...is a VOIP over wifi product and - since it doesn't support bluetooth - a dockable headset for the iPod Touch.

If I'm reading all of this right and the iPhone/Touch can connect to a network over wifi, and VOIP over wifi apps will be permitted for the phone, then this could bypass AT&T altogether for anyone who has a Touch and is regularly near a wireless access point...

...or am I completely off here?

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