* Posts by Mike Moyle

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Elon Musk unveils Hyperloop – the subsonic tube of tomorrow

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One thumbs-up to Iain Thomson

For using the proper term "damper", rather than the lamentably common "dampener".

(If there were [only] one thing that I could never forgive "Star Trek: The Next Generation" for, it would be the promulgation of that horror. A "damping field" would be a field that inhibits a reaction; a "dampening field" would be the north forty under a heavy dew.)

(Sorry... Pet peeve. </curmudgeon>)

US taxmen told to hush up shadowy drug squad unit laundering NSA intel

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Re: Just a heads up.

"The House and Congress have allowed the NSA to set up a 'shadow court' that bypasses the POTUS."

I think you meant SCOTUS. (Although, with some of the decisions coming from the Supreme Court in recent years (e.g., Citizens United, Voting Rights Act...) I'm not sure that having them ON the job would necessarily be an improvement...)

Sony refuses to flog off Spider-Man lab and other entertainment wings

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An open letter @ David Loeb:

Dear Mr. Loeb:

I have a simple solution to your problem:

1 -- Buy nothing but Sony products. Make your family but nothing but Sony products. Get them to encourage others to buy nothing but Sony products.

2 -- Bottom line is improved the capitalist way -- by people buying products.


You're Welcome.

(Granted, it's not as fast as strip-mining the company, but it all rather depends on whether your ultimate goal is sustainable growth or taking short-term gain and abandoning the husk once you've sucked all of the life out of it, doesn't it?)

Microsoft cuts Surface Pro price by $100

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Re: Firesale - best to wait

"...it's questionable how useful it is with a locked bootloader."

According to what I've been reading on the Hackintosh boards, it's only the RT (ARM-based) that has the locked bootloader, The Pro (Intel-based) isn't locked down.

People are starting to report success in getting OS X running on a Surface Pro, although others still have questions.

US and China make major bilateral anti-piracy bust

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Were I the suspicious and cynical sort...

... which, of course, I'm not... I might suspect that the counterfeiting operations busted in China were all ones that WEREN'T connected to, or paying protection to, party officials and the whole thing was just a way of getting some good international press while covering up the fact that the ACTUAL goal was to cut "unlicensed" competition.

...But that would just be crazy talk, right?

A drone that can walk home

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They were SO close!

DALER – Deployable Air Land Exploration Robot

Seriously; would it have been THAT much trouble to call it a Deployable Air Land Exploration Kit?

Curiosity team: Massive collision may have killed Red Planet

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Re: Maybe it was just one impact

@ 2nobel2013

"...how then is Mars ALSO tilted a very similar amount? TWO impacts? Is that easier to believe than just one?"

Earth, Mars, Saturn, and Neptune all have axial tilts clustered within 5 degrees of each other, with none of the others anywhere near them.. By your post hoc, ergo propter hoc argument, therefore, one of them MUST have made a cracking good billiard shot to effect that result.

An at least as likely explanation is that, because the original protoplanetary disk wasn't one molecule thick but rather extended well above and below the mathematical "plane of the ecliptic", millions of impacts -- as well as close encounters with objects from WELL outside the plane that passed through it, such as we still have today -- gradually tugged the axes of rotation out of a strict perpendicular alignment with the plane of the disk into something of a "sweet spot" around 25 degrees.

Dear Linus, STOP SHOUTING and play nice - says Linux kernel dev

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"Moving parts in rubbing contact require lubrication to avoid excessive wear. Honorifics and formal politeness provide lubrication where people rub together. Often the very young, the untraveled, the naive, the unsophisticated deplore these formalities as “empty,” “meaningless,” or “dishonest,” and scorn to use them. No matter how “pure” their motives, they thereby throw sand into machinery that does not work too well at best." -- Robert A. Heinlein; "Time Enough for Love"

Google loses Latitude in Maps app shake-up

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Oh my god... They killed Kenny!

For offline mapping, I like Skoobler's ForeverMap -- available for iOS and Android -- so losing the Goog's OLM isn't that much of a hardship for me.

Latitude is another issue, however. The family refers to it as the Stalk-O-Matic™ and we use it often to find each other at events or to see that each other got home safely after a night out. THAT one going away is gonna hurt. Does anyone know of / have any recommendations for a similar "Find-the-Rest-of-the-Gang" app?

Going lo-tech to avoid NSA snooping? Unlucky - they read snailmail too

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Re: hmm ...

"The senders address is very frequently on the front of American mail, just a cultural difference :-)"

I tend to put the return address on the flap in back so, unless they're routinely photographing both sides...

Modern-day Frankenstein invents CURE for BEHEADING

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Paternity suits...?

"Yes, your Honor, it WAS my idea to have sex with the woman, but the DNA test shows it was HIS sperm that got her pregnant, so I shouldn't be held responsible!

When Apple needs speed and security in Mac OS X, it turns to Microsoft

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@ Maharg

"Out of curiosity I noticed that the spend on new hardware for the marketing department was higher than the IT department, turns out in marketing they all need their monitors to be bigger then everyone else’s, white and have pictures of fruit on the back, because, you know, they update twitter better…"

Mmmmm... yes... Because we all know that Adobe will give away new copies for free of their $2000 software suites (...more if you do both document AND video work...) if a customer switches computing platforms. I hope that you're in accounting or something, because any of the IT people at MY workplace would factor in the cost of replacing software AS WELL as hardware when talking about switching platforms.

Besides -- why does IT need faster computers...? As long as you've got an OS and a basic word processor you can write code. Job done. (NB: I'm being sarcastic here. The difference between us is that, unlike yours, MY sarcasm actually has some small basis in fact.)

Your (apparent) argument that marketing people don't do "real" work, needing real computers that run real software that costs real money to replace is, at best, ignorance or, at worst, intentional trolling.

Apple: iOS7 dayglo Barbie makeover is UNFINISHED - report

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For what it's worth...

While I am not a fan of the color choices made -- and I *DO* maker my living as a graphic designer/illustrator -- I feel that I should point out that, if you take a couple of pieces of paper and block off the two totally unnecessary toxic-waste green bars on either side of the picture in this article, the visual effect of the UI is not as bad. Those bars appear to have been added for the sole purpose of making the whole illustration as eye-searing and unpleasant to look at as possible, in an attempt at biasing the viewer.

Propaganda is one thing, but SLOPPILY DONE propaganda is just totally unacceptable!.

Comcast expands public Wi-Fi net using customers' modems

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Does providing Comcast with a free neighborhood hotspot get me any additional capacity before I get tagged as "using more than my fair share" of network capacity and face the sudden but inevitable throttling...?

Does Comcast indemnify me against the MPAA/RIAA/federal/state/local law enforcement if someone uses my connection to upload/download movies, music, governmental secrets, or kiddy-smut...?


Thanks, Comcast... I think I'll pass!

Sacred islet Rockall repels Brit adventurer's first assault

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Doesn't Lir have the franchise up in that neighborhood...?

Canadian regulators welcome US Bitcoin refugees with open arms

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The current administration almost HAS to crack down on BC, et al.

The looney fringe on the far right -- which includes/controls many Republican Congress-critters -- keeps trying to paint Obama as a Commie.Muslim/Fascist/Pinko One-Worlder. One of the canards that pops up repeatedly is that he plans to eliminate the dollar and go with... I don't know... some U.N.-mandated world currency (They never actually seem to KNOW what he's going to replace the greenback with, just that it's going to be internationalist and un-American!).

That being the case, and independent of what he ACTUALLY may feel about such things, any sign of tolerance by the Feds for something that is, after all, INTENDED to be the exact sort of independent international virtual-currency that they fear will just feed into the Tea Partiers' paranoid fantasies and give them an excuse to tie even MORE members of the administration up testifying in interminable Congressional hearings.

Were I the suspicious and cynical sort of individual (Which, of course, I'm NOT! *a-HENH!*) I might actually suspect that their secret goal is to keep EVERY executive-branch employee permanently testifying before the various subcommittees in order to make sure that nothing gets accomplished for the rest of Obama's term.

Curse you, old person, for inventing computers!

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Re:Re: Yup - Me too!

"OK I'll have a discount for buying by self-checkout."

Exactly! For THIS fifty-something, it's not an issue of not being able to figure out how to use a self-serve checkout; it's rather an issue of not WANTING to use one. I worked retail too many times in my life; my policy now is that, if I am expected to ring up and bag my own purchases, then I am damned well going to get an employee discount. If there's no automatic discount attached to the self-serve machine, then I want the full service that I'm paying full price for.

'Leccy car biz baron Elon Musk: Thanks for the $500m, taxpayers...

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Re: Re: Note that difference *loan* (with interest) versus old car maker (2nd or 3rd) bailout.


"That's lefty speak that can be fairly translated as 'any cause not associated with my economically illiterate, luddite and socialist beliefs'."

Actually, I read it as a Libertarian "I've got mine; fuck you," anti-government, anti-tax-that doesn't-benefit-me-right-now screed.

...probably just goes to show that either: A) the inarticulate fringe at both ends of the political spectrum are almost indistinguishable, or; B) we all see the boogeyman that we expect to see.

Jailed Romanian hacker repents, invents ATM security scheme

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Re: Over complex

"Even in a tape recorder or VHS it is always the magnetic tape that is moving, never the magnetic pick up head."

You COULD do the same with a tape player -- you'd just need a 200 foot long tape player and cartridge for the head to move across. I'm just guessing that THAT's the reason that they move the tape rather than the record/read head on those, but i'll admit that I could be wrong. By your argument, hard disk drives should fail after an hour or two of use because of all the travel that the read/write head has to do. By the standards of HDDs, a read head that moves laterally only, at a moderate speed -- say 3 inches in a second or two -- would likely be pretty robust.

Congress asks Google to explain Glass privacy policies

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Privacy rights

Here in the States this is, to the best of my knowledge, fairly settled law. If you are someplace where you expect people will see you, you HAVE no inherent right to privacy. In the past, courts have ruled that the documentary value of public photography outweighs individual privacy rights. To decide otherwise would mean that photographers shooting a public event would need to get signed releases from every person at the event; or shooting at the scene of a crime would require sign-off by the perpetrator on any photographs taken of him at the scene.

The exception to the "public places" rule comes if you go into an area where one normally WOULD have an expectation of privacy. You could, for example, take photographs of anyone on the sales floor in a clothing store (with the owner's permission, of curse, since this is private property), since this is not a place where a person could have a reasonable expectation of not being seen. You would NOT, however, be able to take photographs in the dressing rooms, since THERE, a person COULD reasonably have an expectation of privacy.

The short version, then, is that you would likely have no legal right to stop someone from looking at you or photographing you while they are wearing GoogleGoggles on the street or in a public park, or in any place where the property owner does not prohibit it, but the Glasses would have to be removed/disabled if the property owner required it or the wearer went into a place where a reasonable expectation of privacy would exist -- e.g. even if your local pub allowed them, you'd STILL have to take them off or turn them off when you went into the Gents'.

Downloadable capsule summaries of photographers' rights -- which should also cover wearers of GoogleGoggles -- for the U.S., U.K., Canada, and Australia are available at: http://digital-photography-school.com/photographers-rights-and-photography-privacy-advice

British LulzSec hackers hear jail doors slam shut for years

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What level...?

Not that any prison is fun, but I'm assuming, since there was no violence nor threat of violence, that they'll be assigned to a minimum-security facility fir non-violent offenders. Even in these unenlightened United States we frequently keep the violent, likely-to-reoffend population separated from the ones that are most likely to be rehabilitated and successfully re-enter society. Surely the UK does the same...?

Biological chips go analog to boost efficiency

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It's sad, sometimes...

I swear, my first thought was "bio-neural gel packs".

...I'm so ashamed...

Adobe price hike: Your money or your files, frappuccino sippers

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Re: Re: valid assumption?

"Photoshop is the only one that has credible competition, and you could make a good case that for 90% of what the people using pirated PS copies are doing, they could do just as well with Gimp, which is free."

I'm actually going through this at work right now. I REALLY wanted to be able to recommend FOSS publishing software -- GIMP, Scribus, and Inkscape -- but,with the POSSIBLE exception of Scribus (which, admittedly, I've only dabbled with) they're just not ready for professional publishing.

The thing that keeps GIMP from being suitable for me, for example, is its lack of support for LAB or -- most critically -- CMYK colorspaces. Add to that the fact that the "roadmap" page lists high-end CMYK support as a low-priority item and I just don't see how I can recommend it.

OTOH. The way that I see it is that @ $50/month, it will take the department a bit over two years to pay Adobe the equivalent of the price of CS6 Design Standard edition. Thus, if we go cloudy with a subscription, that gives the FOSS teams two years to get their programs up to something that I feel may be worth reconsidering before we hit the break-even point and start losing money.

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Re: Its just makes it more difficult for new talent to enter the industry

"I haven't looked, but do they allow short-term subscriptions that cost less than buying a boxed copy?"

Individual programs are available @ $20/month (annual subscription) or $30/month (no contract); quit at any time.

John McAfee talks of sex, drugs, and bad coding

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Re: See! I told you guys!!

"I wonder if there are brand equity people at Intel who are now seriously considering a rechristening of McAfee (the software company)."

Oh, I'm sure that they wouldn't be averse to smashing a bottle of champagne over this one's head, either, if given half a chance.

Judge hands copyright troll an epic smack-down

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Re: @Esskay "you won't even notice the pixels"

"The Internet has done for porn what Justin Bieber has done for music."

Auto-tuned porn? The mind boggles.

Impoverished net user slams 'disgusting' quid-a-day hack

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Re: Eh?

"as for the story that started it all, yes, for SOME of us who have been there it is more than in bad taste."

There. Fixed that for you.

I WAS there... A couple of dollars' worth of various whole grains, a couple of packs of the day-old vegetables, a smoked turkey leg or two (the cheapest meat at the local grocery store) and some spices. Boil on Sunday until the grain is cooked through and the meat has fallen off the bones and the family eats for the rest of the week.

So if you're trying to pull the "You don't know what it's like..." argument, you can piss off right now; it's not working.

Now -- speaking for me, personally (the only one for whom I can legitimately speak) -- I applaud Lester for taking the plunge, for raising money for charity, and for documenting his experiences in a series of articles that were entertaining enough to keep a bunch of people -- who possibly haven't had to and <deity of choice> willing, never WILL have to live hat way -- reading, contributing to charity and possibly even thinking about the problem in real terms for the first time. Taking the step of thinking "What would I do if..." is the first step towards trying to solve the "if". I applaud Lester's sneaky, underhanded attempt to use entertaining anecdote and body-function humor (BTW, Lester -- How'd that all work out in the end? *Ba-BOOM!*) to lure people into taking that first step.

Obviously, YMMV, but it's YOUR milage, not mine and not necessarily anyone else's. Claiming to speak for "those of us who have been there" is as insulting (to some of us) as you accuse Lester of having been.

Weary quid-a-day nosh hack fears colonal mass ejection

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Re: Its not going to be a pretty sight.

"...when Etna finally breeches..."

"...when he finally Etnas his breeches" you mean?

Space elevators, vacuum chutes: What next for big rocket tech?

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As to your final option...

"Beam me up, Wernher..."

...would that be von Braun or Heisenberg...?

Google U-turns on exclusive snatch of .app AND .search addys

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Not that anyone at ICANN asked me...

...but it seems obvious that anyone who is a participant in a given field should NOT be allowed to own the TLD for that field -- allowing this makes them, effectively, a gatekeeper for their competitors. It may not matter at this moment, with the amount of scrutiny that the new gold rush is garnering, but further on down the road I could see a gradual shift to "setting the fox to guard the henhouse"-mode happening.

Google goes on the Blink in WebKit fork FURORE

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Re: Anti trust

No, you're not the only one -- While reading the article, I was hearing the Ghost of Microsofts Past whispering "Embrace, extend, and extinguisah..."

Federal lawyers, MIT threatened following Aaron Swartz' death

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Re: They make...

The point that people seem to be missing re: the Quakers and many other civil-disobedience actors is that they understood and accepted the risks that their actions entailed, they took their day in court and they took their punishment standing up and facing their accusers. I dislike speaking ill of the dead but the simple fact is that, when push came to shove, rather than face his accusers and ARGUE his point Swartz punted.

Jobs' first boss Nolan Bushnell: 'Steve was difficult but valuable'

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Re: Thing is

"You can be a soap dodging techie but you catch more flies with honey than vinegar"

But you can catch even more with a pound of shit...

Public cloud will grow when experienced IT folks DIE

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Re: So who will run the servers in the various 'clouds'?

I believe that the ones who actually still know how the machines work are called "Morlocks".

Texas judge sends Uniloc packing in Rackspace patent suit

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Is Chief Judge Davis new to that post...?

...Because CLEARLY he doesn't know how the system works down in that neck of the woods!

Man's 'I own half of Facebook' claim branded 'fabrication' by judge

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Re: Ya think?

"Does it really take a 155 page report to know this guy is a liar?"

No, but it may take a 155-page document to lay out the facts and reasoning behind the decision in sufficient detail to close off as many vectors as possible for appeal to a higher court and possible overturn of the judge's decision. In learning argumentation, lawyers are trained to build a pyramid one brick at a time and to explicitly reference each brick. Not doing so can lead to appeals based on claims of "unwarranted assumptions" and "unsupported conclusions".

Lightspeed variable say intellectuels français

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Re: Attosecond

This prefix also explains certain practices at jobs that I've held: The "AttoBoy" is now defined as the amount of reward one earns for going above and beyond to get the job done under nearly impossible constraints.

I was going to use the "Joke Alert" icon but, sadly, it isn't really...

Feds cuff ex-NASA boffin at airport amid state-secret leak scare

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Re: don't break the small laws

@ James O'Shea

Actually, the one that always springs to mind for me happened locally some years ago. A state police officer, patrolling his stretch of the interstate highway one hot lazy summer day, saw a guy driving a large rental truck while wearing earphones. He pulled the truck over and was just going to let the guy go with a warning... But, as he was standing near the truck, he smelled a sweet, sort of... herbal... aroma coming out of the box. Asking for and receiving (grudging) permission, he opened the back of the truck and found it PACKED with trash bags full of smoking herb -- which would have made it to market if not for a pair of earphones being worn at the wrong time.

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Re: List your devices

@ AC 13:49 GMT

"there's not one chance in a thousand that I could remember each and every gadget"

That may be true for you -- personally, I think that I'D remember that I was carrying a SECOND laptop AND that extra hard drive... That level of forgetfulness seems beyond me. He could have probably got away with forgetting or "forgetting" the extra SIM card, but forgetting the extra computer just seems unrealistic to me.

Basic rule of thumb: If you're going to break a BIG law, make sure NEVER to break any of the SMALL ones while doing so, because THOSE are the ones that will get you pulled aside in the first place. (Not that I would actually know anything about breaking any laws... *A-HENH*!)

Phone, internet corps SNUB US government's cybersecurity ABCs

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Maybe it's just me...

...but it seems like there's an easy solution to getting industry to use best security practices: Just make it impossible for them to collect "damages" in legal cases involving computer intrusion, while allowing THEIR customers to collect damages from THEM for downtime/identity theft, etc. as a result from that intrusion.

Making the cost of not securing their systems an INternal cost, rather than an EXternality, would -- to paraphrase Samuel Johnson -- "concentrate their minds wonderfully."

Weev gets 41 months in prison for exposing iPad strokers' privates

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Based on this one article, it sounds like he didn't redact any of the customers' information before sending the data to Gawker to publish. That's making a lot of third parties pay in aggravation (and the possibility of identity theft, etc.) for their ISP's failure. Frankly, AT&T's embarrassment is of zero importance to me -- punishing users for their choice of connectivity vendor strikes me as being more than a bit of a dick.

He could have -- relatively easily, I'm sure -- redacted the information in such a way that Gawker or some other news outlet could have presented it to ATT, asking for confirmation that it was theirs and asking if they were aware of the flaw in their security, without leaving the users hanging in the wind.

Also, there is no mention of how LONG he waited for ATT to fix the flaw before going past them for the publicity Three days...? A week...? Three months...? This has bearing, I think, on whether his actual goal was giving ATT a genuinely reasonable amount of time to verify the problem, fix the code, test the fix, and roll it out, or whether it was just to cover his ass with the "Well, I TOLD them and they did NOTHING so I HA-A-A-A-AD to go over their heads" defense.

Samsung Galaxy S 4: A slim stripper with palms hovering over its body

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Re: sick of it

@ Obviously!

"Why is it the same old story day in and day out?"

Just to piss you off...


Deja vote: Iran blocks VPN use ahead of elections

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Re: shock

Before Ahmedinejad can win -- by a landslide or otherwise -- they'll need to change the constitution, which currently limits a president to two terms.

Look out! Peak wind is coming, warns top Harvard physicist

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Okay...So howzabout...

If all the vertical turbines will slow the wind downstream from them, that means that there will be less convective cooling of those downstream areas, raising the temperatures locally.

Therefore,we build HORIZONTAL turbines to catch the resulting updrafts.


Take THAT, fancy Harvard-scientist-types!

US woman cuffed for 'booking strippers for 16th birthday bash'

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Re: At 16, he can drive......

"But at 16, he's legal to drive? And vote. And die for his country...."

No. I don't know of any state that allows voting at 16.

...And under 18 requires parents' signed consent to enlist in the military.

...And most states that allow driving at 16 allow it as a restricted license -- no driving between 11 PM and 6 AM, say; license valid only in the issuing state; no passengers except an adult carrying a valid driver's license, etc. Few states (if any -- I haven't checked the relevant statutes everywhere) give unrestricted licenses to 16 year-olds.

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Age of Consent laws

You may think that the U.S.'s age of consent laws are "absurdly low", but one reason for them is to enforce anti-predation laws. Equal treatment under the law means that you (technically) aren't allowed to say "members of THIS group are allowed to do 'x', but members of THAT group are not." True, this leads to teen-aged sexters being accused of child pornography, but it also leads to priests and other authority figures being sent down for sexual abuse of a minor.

So... you know... As with most laws;kind of a mixed bag.

Obama signs Executive Order on critical cybersecurity

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@ Chris007 -- Re: Translation


"First of all, the number of executive orders issued by President Obama is grossly exaggerated here. By our count, as of 28 September 2012 the total number of executive orders issued by President Obama was 138, not 923. Moreover, compared to President Obama's predecessors in the White House, this is not an unusually large number of orders for a modern president: President George W. Bush issued 291 executive orders during his eight years in office, while President Bill Clinton issued 364 such orders over the same span of time.

"The listing of numbers of executive orders issued during the terms of modern presidents included in one of the examples above also bears no resemblance to reality."

Obama's record on executive orders -- his "whims", as you would have it -- is well below such "tyrants"as Dwight Eisenhower, Harry Truman and Theodore Roosevelt.

...Watch a lot of Fox News, do you...?

The official iPhone actually runs Android - in Brazil

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@ Mark

With trademark infringement, I think that the point is "Where does it start causing confusion?"

Take your "jPhone" for instance: As long as the "j" was accentuated -- ALWAYS accentuated -- so that there was NO way that a cursory glance would not mistake it for an "i" -- a different font, colored a bright, screaming red where the rest of the logo is turquoise, the tail of the 'j' is made longer than usual... the possibilities are endless -- it might pass the "not likely to cause confusion in the general public" smell test.On the other hand, making the logo in a similar font to Apple's, in the same all-black, with the tail of the "j" shortened or otherwise de-emphasized (which is,itself,another judgement call -- when is something "too much"?) to lessen the difference between a "j"and an "i" then a case can be made that it DOESN'T pass that test.

xPhone, if made suitably visually distinctive, might pass the test... it might not. aPhone, all the rest... same thing -- maybe maybe not. Picking theone letter that MOST CLOSELY resembles the one that differentiates an "iPhone" from a "phone", however,is likely to be a bit whiffy on the smell-test

The real question,though,is -- in the case of someone wanting to enter a market that ALREADY has a competitor selling a well-known and popular product with an identifiable name -- why would one WANT to use a similar-sounding/similar-looking name if they're NOT hoping to ride on the coattails of that other product in the public mind? Remember that the term"iPhone" was not in common usage when Apple named their product. Once they DID bring the term into common usage, however, it became the responsibility of companies following on from there NOT to attempt to infringe -- just the same as it would be their responsibility not to name their mobile phone the "Galazy S", or the "Blackbury", or any number of OTHER "trivial variations to the generic term" that resemble products already on the market.

Interestingly -- to me, at least -- is; that, if I read aright, Apple maintains the sole right to the name iPhone for "computing devices", just not cellphones. Does this mean that the Brazilian company has to cripple their (otherwise,non-infringing) telephone so that it can't access the Google store or run non-phone applications? It seems to me that a case could be made that allowing it to run non-telephony-related apps would put it dangerously close to, if not INTO, the area of a "computing device".

Illicit phone rings in Sri Lankan inmate's back crack

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"I can hear you fine...

"...How's it coming through at YOUR end?"

US diplomat: If EU allows 'right to be forgotten' ... it might spark TRADE WAR

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Trade war will never happen but, on the other hand...

... If it meant that I could stop paying hundreds every month for National Grid's (lack of) service here in the U.S., then, y'know... it might not be so bad!

(Mine's the one with the gas bill that I've been afraid to open in the pocket -- We've had damn' few days in the past month that it ever got above freezing!)

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