* Posts by themunkey

3 posts • joined 22 Jun 2016

Parliament takes axe to 2nd EU referendum petition

themunkey

I don't understand the need for the petition - I'm fairly sure we just had one where a couple of million people went to little temporary offices (lets call them polling stations), they took a piece of paper and selected their choice by putting an X in a box.

There is a name for that... Oh thats right, its a democratic voting system...

Yes the leaves only had it by a small margin, but unfortunately you don't get to do it again and again until you get the vote 'YOU' think is the right one - that is NOT a democracy...

Rightly or wrongly, educated or not, smart or stupid - it is the decision of the people who bothered to vote...

I'm neither pro not against - simply because I don't think it really matters, as long as the same 'type' of cockwomble runs the country we are only heading for ruin... (just a case of do we run or fall into it)

Why you should Vote Remain: Bananas, bathwater and babies

themunkey

Re: 'little Englander's"... really??

1. I am not 'Brexit' I am in favor of leaving the EU - Brexit is a bullshit name created by an incompetent media system to turn an important political debate into a pissing competition.

2. I never mentioned that we would retain anything - I asked if you would honestly expect other countries to willingly throw away very large sources of income to their own countries by stopping free movement? I am certain there will be a price tag, and there will be governance for us to follow. But we will be in a position to take or leave them. Right now we don't have that option...

themunkey

'little Englander's"... really??

'Little Englanders'... really... for considering the status quo may not be all its cracked up to be?

You state we are better off in, but provide no examples, and say you don't trust Brexiteers one bit... again an opinion based on such huge amounts of unbiased information you cannot possibly share here...

Yes there are some complete tools in the exit camp, but there are just as many in the remain.

The EU was a good idea, and well sold. What we have now isn't close to what it should have been. Yes we can stay in and try to fix from the inside, but at what cost? If we leave, do you honestly think we are suddenly not going to trade with countries who rely on our money?? Germany's car market is built to send 20% straight to us, as we love a German motor... You think there is any chance they will jeopardize that money? Even if the German Government did, the solution would be for the manufacturers to start manufacturing in the UK again...

Spain, France etc etc, the revenue from our holidays, business travel etc - do you think they will be willing to loose any of this? They wont impose Visa's - people would simply go else where. Have a look at the value of the British tourist to some of these countries.

Don't forget our exit is going to leave a fairly big financial hole, that the remaining members will have to cover (taking the total of contributing countries down to 10). Are they really going to turn their noses up at our cash with their bottom lip quivering because we hurt their feelings?

I do think as a nation we are in a far stronger than we or anyone else gives credit...

I work in an incredibly multi cultural office, and we are in many countries around the world. You know what will change about that if we leave? Nada...

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