* Posts by Teropher

13 posts • joined 31 Mar 2016

PM resigns as Britain votes to leave EU

Teropher

"Many Christians object to Muslims saying "god is great" but are quite happy to say hallelujah which effectively means the same thing (and even refers to the exact same God)."

Wrong on ALL counts. Allahu akbar means "God is greater" not God is great. Meaning to Islam that Allah is greater than any other god.

"Hallelujah" is from the Hebrew word Hallel and is used to express praise or joy, the Greek form is Alleluia.

Allah is NOT the same God of Christians, The Quran describes Allah as the best deceiver there is, a liar who is not above using the same evil and wicked schemes of his opponents. For example, the Quran calls Allah a makr, in fact the best makr there is: But they (the Jews) were deceptive, and Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers (Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru al-makireena)! S. 3:54; cf. 8:30.

In the Catholic and Christian faiths God cannot be deceived nor does he deceive. "We believe 'because of the authority of God himself who reveals them, who can neither deceive nor be deceived'" (Catechism of the Catholic Church #156) The Muslim god Allah is NOT the same as the Christian God.

Flying Spaghetti Monster is not God, rules mortal judge

Teropher

Re: Can't We All Just Get A Long?

@KeithR

Sadly the inaccurate part is what constitutes getting along and being a dick. And frankly there are just as many dicks among atheists, agnostics communists, socialists, etc.

To me being a dick and not getting along is the homosexuals who can't take a polite no from Christians with sincerely held beliefs about marriage. Christians who do not call them names, denigrate them and would sell them anything else from their bakery except a wedding cake which would make them participants in something that goes against their sincerely held beliefs. But instead those same homosexuals with their friends and supporters initiate a campaign of threats of violence and obscenities against said couple. Now tell me who is not getting along and who is being a dick? It's not the Christians. There are plenty of places willing to cater to homosexual weddings, in fact in the particular recent story I'm referring to they were given a list of alternate bakeries. Yet Christians are continuously being singled out, never Muslims mind you, and then harassed and/or driven out of business for POLITELY refusing to participate against their conscience. I've yet to see one media outlet say that any of those homosexuals were verbally mistreated, not one. They were merely told no. Why is it that only homosexuals, in a lot of people's minds, are the only ones who must be free but the Christian must be coerced against their will? Why can they not go somewhere else like everybody else does when the store they're at doesn't carry what they were looking for without throwing a temper tantrum and filing a lawsuit. Perhaps I should do that the next time my local store doesn't carry what I want and throw a public temper tantrum and insist that everyone cater to my whims.

Teropher

Re: All 'religions' the same

@alien8n

The Vatican Library/Archives aren't secret and haven't been since 1881.

As for the Vatican Archives... Secretum, the Vatican says, translates more accurately to “personal” than to “secret” and refers to the private letters and historical records of past popes. In fact, the archives haven’t been secret since 1881, when Pope Leo XIII opened them up to scholars.

http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2014/09/01/whats-hidden-in-the-vatican-archives/

Teropher

Re: I think the origin of Christianity is rather well-known

@Tom 7

Oh my goodness thats a new one on me and gave me quite a chuckle. If he was in it for the money then he should've stuck to the mythical gods of Rome. Being persecuted and killed by the Roman Empire for 300yrs, not to mention not being allowed to build churches til Constantine legalized Christianity, the Church was NOT rich. Where on God's green earth did you come up with that rubbish? I think you're confused with a certain King Henry VIII of England who after not getting the annulment he wanted to his legitimate marriage declared himself head of the church in England and proceeded to pillage and plunder churches and monastaries kicking monks and nuns out and taking even the very property owned by the church. That Emperor Constantine did not do because the church had none of those things in the fourth century. However, the opposite was true for the entire list of Roman and Greek gods all over the empire with their elaborate temples of worship.

Teropher

Re: I think the origin of Christianity is rather well-known

@MadMike

Are you joking or just being wilfully ignorant. The beginnings of Christianity are very well documented. Have you never heard of a little thing called the New Testament? They are books and actual letters written by first hand witnesses written in the first century by men who were so convinced of the miracles they saw Jesus perform and of the example of his life that they spread his teaching even though it meant death at the hands of the Roman Empire for not worshipping their mythical god Zeus. These writings were then put together by the Church into the structured form we now have. "the evidence for our New Testament writings is ever so much greater than the evidence for many writings of classical authors, the authenticity of which no one dreams of questioning...It is a curious fact that historians have often been much readier to trust the New Testament records than have many theologians." (Wikipedia)

As for the Vatican Archives... Secretum, the Vatican says, translates more accurately to “personal” than to “secret” and refers to the private letters and historical records of past popes. In fact, the archives haven’t been secret since 1881, when Pope Leo XIII opened them up to scholars.

http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2014/09/01/whats-hidden-in-the-vatican-archives/

"To be honest, the more I think about it, the less we know of the TRUTH (as in proveable fact) of the origin of Christianity....."

The less you have to worry about your soul?

Teropher

Re: All 'religions' the same

Coercion? And what does that say of the modern day homosexual movement and its followers when politely told no by a baker, photographer, etc to provide a luxury item for their homosexual wedding and instead of simply finding another accommodating establishment they proceed to coerce said individuals against their will to the tune of losing their businesses, their savings, their livelihoods, etc. How is that any different than the coercion of some religions, but yet is astonishingly applauded by many as being just peachy in spite of the fact the United States was founded on freedom OF religion and the freedom from being coerced? Typical hypocrisy!

Teropher

Re: I think the origin of Christianity is rather well-known

Wrong, Jesus was not an Arab but an Israelite, a Hebrew who spoke Aramaic. Jesus acknowledged himself to be the Christ, the Jews long awaited Messiah though the leading Jews did not accept him as such. His disciples continued spreading his teachings even though it meant death and according to the book of Acts chapter 11 verse 26 "it was in Antioch that the disciples were first called Christians" not 300 yrs later. It was in the 4th century that Constantine legalized Christianity ending 300yrs of persecution against the Christians.

Teropher
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Re: Why only scientology?

Oh yes you're quite right, Peter and the other disciples of Jesus kept on preaching to "piss the Romans off" all the while knowing that they and all their followers would be murdered for their mythical beliefs just like their master Jesus was. Sure makes total sense.

This headline will, in part, cost pepper-spraying University of California, Davis $175k

Teropher

Not that I'm disagreeing that the pepper spraying of people peacefully sitting on the ground is wrong but your comment "Probably was hoping one of the kids would react, so he could have some fun with his gun." Do you know anything about pepper spray at all? The whole point of it is to incapacitate a person to where they're too busy being blinded and in pain to do any to the person who sprayed them in the first place.

Here's a great idea: Let's make a gun that looks like a mobile phone

Teropher

Re: I can make sense of it...

I'm sorry but I seem to recall where several other nations throughout history have stepped into other countries themselves. Need we go through the list of England's interferences? How about Spain and France? You non-Americans act like the USA is the only one in history to do so. (What is that saying, something about people in glass houses throwing stones?) You also seem to forget that most of your countries were there alongside us during the ousting of Saddam from Iraq, a man who tortured and killed hundreds of thousands of his own people and let his two sons run free raping to their hearts delight. Not to mention the al-Quaeda terrorist training camps he sponsored there. Whether you agree or not that WMDs were found that bastard deserved to go!

Teropher

Re: Yankee ingenuity at work.

Those that have a problem coming up with a legal ID to vote prove that there needs to be voter ID laws. If you can't get your happy ass to the driver's license station with the proper documents proving you are a still living breathing legal citizen, then you have zero right to vote in these elections that have important consequences for our nation. Dead people have no right to vote and neither do illegal aliens so the solution is voter ID to prove who you are. We have to show ID for hundreds of other things why should we permit voter fraud to continue unabated and run rampant especially among Obama's party "of change".

That one phone the FBI wanted unlocked? Here are 63 more, says ACLU

Teropher

Re: Involuntary servitude

That would explain Section 4 of the 14th Amendment "But neither the United States nor any state shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void."

Teropher

Re: Involuntary servitude

Maybe you should try rereading it in its entirety. That bit you threw out about untaxed Indians is under Section 2 of the 14th Amendment "Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed." That othert bit you threw out about freed slaves is under section 4 "But neither the United States nor any state shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void." Neither of those sections are relevant to Apple's use of the 14th Amendment as a defense. What you totally missed was section 1 which is the basis of their defense "Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." I'll let someone smarter than I do the exegesis for you if you still don't comprehend that.

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