Would you spend £599 on a phone from a relatively unknown manufacturer with no record or promise of regular software updates ? I have an LG phone which is still on Android 7 security patch April 2018. I certainly won't consider buying an LG phone after this.
38 posts • joined 13 Dec 2015
To be fair you should compare the the price of the Pocophone to Iphone XR 128GB price ( £799 ).
Also to be considered is the fact that Pocophone has very limited LTE bands which covers Europe and most of Asia compared , Iphone XR has wider LTE Bands cover to include the US LTE Bands. I usually leave my Pocophone at home ( UK ) when I go to the US and take my Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact.
There were complaints that the latest Iphones have poor RF Performance / Signal Reception after they were launched last September, I wonder whether it has been sorted out.
I bought a Xiaomi Pocophone F1 a month ago when I was in Asia, it costed £280 for the 6GB/128GB version. It has the latest Qualcomm Snapdragon 845, good screen and battery life (4000 MAh ). So far it has been a fantastic phone , camera is very good but not as good as my old original Google Pixel.
The software is good with regular security update as well as software update, only minus are there is no NFC and no LTE Bands for the US. Software / security updates are better than Huawei/ Honor ,Samsung, LG(poorest) etc.
Re: What to buy ?
I agree with you, I bought one out of curiosity and for use when I travel and need a second Sim ( mainly for Asia ). You have to accept that it is slow if you are used to mid or top of the range phones but for the price I am ok with it. Reception is good but I wish it covers more LTE / 4G bands . Android GO is good. I don't need fancy Apps, WhatsApp, Telegram and Google Map ( not for Navigation ) are enough for me.
Re: RF and Battery is all that matters
I have similar thought and I wish there is a manufacturer brave enough to produce a mobile phones that have:
Good RF performance
Large capacity removable battery , forget the thinness of the phone, 4000 mAmh would be great
The size of BB Z10 , Sony Xperia X, XZ1 Compact
Good call quality and speakers
Screen brightness that is good enough for when it is bright outside.
No glass back , give me aluminium or good quality plastic like the old Nokia
USB C port for charging and data transfer
Good GPS performance for navigation.
Regular update of the software
Re: South Korea roaming
Recently I also bought a Samsung phone ( in Indonesia) , an A5 2017. Dual Sim plus micro sd slot . I wonder why most if not all Samsung phones sold in Europe / UK are single sim phones. With the A5 the first sim up to 4G, the second Sim 3G only but that is ok for my purpose when travelling in countries outside UK.
I have been with Three for years because of the ' Feel at Home ' . have used it in Europe ( before the EU Directive June this year ), US, Indonesia, Hong Kong and at present using it in New Zealand .
If i want to call local number I can use my data and WhatsApp or data and Skype . I have less than £10 in my Skype account to call landline and local number that is not on my contact list for WhatsApp or Skype.
Re: Post sales servicing as a differentiator
This is in contrast to my Blackberry DTek50 which i dropped from knee height position onto concrete floor ( it had BB hard case on it ), the screen was cracked and did not work anymore. The cost of repair quoted by the manufacturer was approximately 135 poundsterling ( could be higher or lower ). You can buy a new one now for 180 poundsterling. It now sits in the drawer, there is no point repairing it. What a waste. I am considering OnePlus, thank you for your information.
Re: And still shovelling Android
Until early last week my Honor 7 ( unlock) was on Security Patch August 2016.
It has just been updated today to Security Patch April 2017. The software is still EMUI 4 ( the latest EMUI 5 ).
For comparison my Sony Xperia X Compact ( Unlock ) has been having regular monthly update now May 2017 Security Patch and several months ago upgraded to Android 7 (Nougat ).
My wife's Blackberry Dtek60 also has regular monthly security patch , now on May 2017 but the Android software is still Android 6 (Marshmellow).
I wish Ofcom would do the same with broadband providers. Last week I cancelled my broadband with BT, after a long sales pitch they agreed and I have to pay £31 ' TERMINATION FEE ' . Why?. I bet most people don't know about termination fee when you leave BT Broadband. I was not in a contract by the way.
Re: Critical question
My wife has been using the Blackberry DTek60 since last year. I can tell you that Blackberry has been updating the software regularly, right now it is on Marshmellow Android 6.0.1 and the Security Patch is 5 March this year ( compare it with my HONOR 7 - Huawei the Security Patch is still June 2016, I presume Huawei has abandoned it ). I know that SONY is also good with software updates.
Re: Blackberry keyboard on Android
I can't find Blackberry keyboard on Playstore. Where did you get it from and how ? I have used Z10 and Passport and missed the excellent Blackberry keyboard on Android phone ( the original Wileyfox swift ) , the swipe up feature and the fact that I can use two languages (English and Indonesian) without having to change from one language to another constantly are very good.
Thank you for the information.
Re: New AppleCare Support Tier: Go away complainy-pants
Don't get the Pixel yet. There is a problem with the loudspeaker ( see Google Pixel forums / problems on the internet ). I have the Pixel, two weeks ago the haptic feedback when you touch type makes scratchy noises , not sorted out by the latest update from Google that is supposed to cure the fault ).
The camera is superb , better I think than the iphone 6 Plus , I have no iphone 7 to compare it to .
If I were you I would wait for Pixel 2 which hopefully will be launched later this year and Google would have sorted out the loudspeaker and lens flare issue.
Agree with you. I use GPS navigation when I am in Indonesia, I usually use Waze and Here Maps.
When you loose GPS fix whilst driving in a foreign country, you are in trouble. I know for the fact that my Wileyfox Swift GPS is bad for locating GPS and for accuracy of location. My wife's Blackberry Dtek60 is superb for GPS navigation compared to Wileyfox. Of course the latter is a much cheaper phone, but if you often use GPS for navigation , you have to consider this when buying a new phone.
Unfortunately most reviewers do not test the GPS and Radio Signal reception except notebookcheck.com
Re: I can understand
Last year I bought a refurbished Thinkpad X220, i5, 8Gb Ram and 256 Sandisk SSD for 220 Pounds.
Very happy with its performance and superb keyboard and I like the Matte (screen better than the reflective one). The battery is good and I know that if the battery is no good anymore I can buy a replacement battery.
Re: Missing ..
Also all reviews of phones do not test how good is it as a phone, usually no mention or testing of the phone's Radio ( Phone Reception and Transmission. Two years ago I was in an area with poor signal, both my wife and I had same carrier Sim, her Blackberry Z30 could do phone calls, Whatsapp, BBM, SMS, mine a Microsoft 640XL was useless, could not even sent a text message ).
GPS performance is also usually not tested ( except in the notebookcheck.net ), this is important if you use your phone often for navigation.
Re: if only we could get them on the left side of the pond...
Before you consider make sure you check the GSM, 3G and LTE Radio frequency cover of this phone. It is very limited for the US use and I don't think you can get LTE / 4G in the US with this phone as it only covers Band 3, 7 and 20 LTE ( for Europe and most of Asia ).
Re: Dual SIM ?
I have been using Wileyfox Swift since last year, for the price it is a good phone except I find that the GPS is not very good ( I use Waze and Nokia Here when I am abroad ). The good thing is now you can buy spare batteries for the Swift. I bought one recently from Wileyfox website.
Re: When the time came for me to update from my N8
I bought Blackberry Passport last year in the US during Black Friday sale, I am still using it. Provided you are happy with the square shaped phone and the weight of it, the Passport is a great phone. Two days battery life, superb loudspeaker and great Operating System ( as long as you don't need too many apps ).