Re: "Cloudy Bollocks"
"Sometimes served from a leaking bucket."
324 posts • joined 27 Oct 2015
"Sometimes served from a leaking bucket."
"humans who are pillaging the entire planet and billowing pollution and trash absolutely everywhere."
Posted from a computer that didn't require any minerals to be mined and processed, and running on non-fossil-fuel electricity, no doubt.
"I am guessing....that the arc was within tolerances for this system and it was able to carry on."
I wonder how many deca/hecto/kilo possums would be required to trip the system. Cue for another El Reg unit of measurement?
"it's a technology to get relatively fine grained readings so the energy generators, and in the future storers, can predict and respond to real energy demands to provide guaranteed supply."
Why would this have to be per-household rather than per-substation if that is its main purpose?
"testing the security of the meters to ensure only authorised users could access the specific data they are allowed, infact legislation was passed to define all this and protect consumers"
I suspect it isn't merely ignorance that drives the scepticism, but many years of experience of other "secure" systems. If this is truly secure it would be a first.
"I think its time to purchase "classics" that have no electronics in them."
For an added bonus, vehicles over 40 years old are also exempt in the UK from vehicle excise duty and, unless substantially modified, MoT tests.
mb = millibits
Mb = megabits
MB = megabytes
It has dropped its CO2 output
"Yeah, let's stick it to the man and make a stand for Liberty by using a temperature scale that's not in line with current international measurement standards!"
I think it's called humour (or humor, if you prefer Freedom Spelling).
"Have a look at RUST.......blisteringly fast"
Is that actually true in general use, as opposed to a few carefully chosen benchmarks?
"To write new code without some form of protection from these kind of errors is verging on irresponsible now."
You mean like understanding what you're doing and taking care to do it right? It always was irresponsible to write code without that kind of protection, regardless of language.
"They should be countersunk to stop tampering with the head."
Countersinking won't prevent tampering, but counterboring them might.
"Bad slaughtering practices"
...along with feeding cows to other cows.
"None of these things are really TSBs fault to be fair"
How about showing other customers' account details to people logging in? Whose fault was that?
How many knowledgeable IT staff were shed due to TT's outsourcing plans prior to the breach?
"Read the book "Chaos Monkeys: Obscene Fortune and Random Failure in Silicon Valley""
Post by author?
"I do have a vested interest here as someone who has never had a FB account."
Same here. I expect the Facebook employees who downvoted your post will react similarly to mine.
"I've got a drawerful of sharp knives in my kitchen. Someone could easily break a window, climb in and kill me with them."
From the other end of an internet connection? I'm impressed.
"Because it manages the network"
...for those who don't know how to do it using traditional Unix-type facilities.
"You cannot effectively regulate mathematics"
Nonsense. Just ask the Australian government.
"The usual argument in both firearms and crypto is that the bad guys don’t follow the rules. That’s true. Doesn’t stop us banning Tesco from selling crack/AR10s to ppl."
Ah, the old false equivalent argument. Crypto has legitimate uses like allowing people to use online banking. I can't think of a legitimate use a member of the British public might have for crack or an AR10.
"If Ubuntu really wanted to make it easier to install packages, they'd drop -dev packages and put the -dev files into the main package."
It would substantially increase the size of the installation, which could be a problem on resource-constrained (eg. embedded) systems. The decision to separate them was made by Debian, not Ubuntu, who only follow Debian in this regard. There are other distributions such as Slackware to choose from if you want -dev files included by default.
"Either systemd is evil because it makes managing services needlessly complicated. Or because it makes it too simple (like here). Choose one."
The two are not necessarily mutually exclusive. In this instance it appears to have made a particular type of abuse easier, but there are plenty of situations where it makes other things unnecessarily complicated. Recognising that doesn't demonstrate a lack of knowledge, rather the opposite.
Theo: "We didn't chase the fad of using every Intel cpu feature."
"systemd works just fine with regular syslog-ng, without journald (that's the thing that has binary logs) in sight"
Journald can't be switched off, only redirected to /dev/null. It still generates binary log data (which has caused me at least one system hang due to the absurd amount of data it was generating on a system that was otherwise functioning correctly) and consumes system resources. That isn't my idea of "works just fine".
""I have no clue what I'm talking about or what's a robust solution but dear god, that won't stop me!" – why is it that all the people complaining about journald sound like that?"
Nice straw man. Most of the complaints I've seen have been from experienced people who do know what they're talking about.
"if one seriously expects Linux-based desktops to displace the hated Microsoft Windows"
I didn't receive that particular memo.
"I'm not stupid, other people are stupid!
cool argument bro, very mature, bro /s"
One thing I find disappointing in this discussion is the tendency of some participants (on both sides, but mainly from some of the seemingly less experienced systemd advocates) to resort to emotional and defensive behaviour when presented with a rational argument against what they believe. Other people have different requirements. Don't take it so personally.
"Sometimes people just like to stick with whats comfortable to them..."
Others like to stick with something that works.
"...and have everyone else bend to their hissy fits."
Why would you think that? I couldn't care less about what others use on their own systems.
"Sometimes you have to bend."
Choosing a reliable init system isn't one of those times.
"if only all the people put half the effort of writing the tirades about Pottering and SystemD into writing their SysV init replacement we would have a working alternative"
Why would I feel the need to write a replacement for something which has been working for me without major problems for two decades?
If I did want to stop using sysvinit there are already several working alternatives apart from systemd, but it seems that pretending otherwise is quite a popular activity.
"You can complain the systemd design is poor and the implementation bad all you want, but if there is no better alternative..."
There are several better alternatives. That isn't the problem. The problem is that most of the major Linux distros bent over and took what Red Hat was giving them.
"I can't remember if it's HPE or Dell (or both) where you can use set the kernel option biosdevname=0 during build/boot to turn all that renaming stuff off and revert to ethX."
I'm using this on my Debian 9 systems. IIRC the option to do so will be removed in Debian 10.
"no-one designed systemd to handle 15-odd vlans!?"
Why would Lennart's laptop need to handle 15 vlans?
"Systemd is about more than init and those three short lines that you boast about."
If that was directed at me I was merely pointing out a fact, not boasting. I'm quite aware of the insidious nature of systemd. I'm pleased to see I was mistaken about the range of packages offered by Devuan, and will give it a try when I get time.
"Devuan repositories use Debian repositories as their upstream. The mirrors either host all of Debian as well as all of Devuan, or use rewrite rules to redirect you to Debian servers for the stuff that is not in Devuan."
Ah, thanks for that information. I missed that. Might be time to try Devuan on a spare drive.
"So what's the added value aside from having to additonally maintain a blacklist"
No blacklist maintenance needed so far on my Debian 9 systems with sysvinit, just 3 short lines in /etc/apt/preferences to disallow systemd reinstallation and another line in /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config.
So far the Debian developers have done a good job of making it fairly painless to work with other init systems. I fully expect it to get more difficult, which will at some point bring nearly 20 years of Debian use to an end for me.
Devuan looks interesting, but last time I checked the Devuan repositories didn't have a lot of the packages I use on Debian.
"Yes - Gnome (probably). It's pretty inextricably tied to systemd.."
Not completely. OpenBSD has Gnome but no systemd. IIRC there is a library to provide some of the things that Gnome expects from systemd. Debian (and Devuan AFAIK) uses libsystemd0 to provide a similar function.
Gnome is not something I'd be interested in using. Both my Debian 9 (sysvinit) workstations and OpenBSD desktop use cwm nowadays.
"systems that have evolved around various types of work have evolved to support individuals who closely conform to majority norms."
Given the wide variety of eccentrics and non-conformists (myself included) who work in tech, WTF is a "majority norm"?
"The performance gains of speculative execution at the processor level are two+ orders of magnitude."
1 - What are you smoking?
2 - Can I have some?
"We wouldn't be in this situation if someone came up with..."
...software that wasn't so bloated and inefficient that it needs this kind of trickery to run at an acceptable speed.
"We have a degree that isn't useful but still need a job. Here's an idea, lets manufacture problems.We'll visit companies..."
Alternatively they could go into politics.
"near-autistic intolerance of anything other than verifiable facts has probably given us of the world's best, most successful programming"
"received a response that begun by explaining how to use a ratchet wrench."
That's patronising, but I wasn't aware it was exclusively men who do it. Thanks for the mansplanation.
"When I run into those I usually leave them on their own."
Bonus points for saying "How difficult can it be?" as you leave.
"It’s about time the UK took back the internet and computers as they were British inventions in the first place!"
Don't be ridiculous. India invented the internet:
"It's 2018 and people are still using arrays..."
Which array-free OS/compiler/VM/interpreter are you using?
"Poison that database. Bonus points for using details of marketers, so they can stay busy spamming each other."
Upvote and pint.
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