Re: Fail Edition?
"Somehow I read Windows 10 Creators Edition Fail Update..."
no, just Windows 10 Fail Update, like "Windows 10 F.U."
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it makes me think of this:
a) No, Seriously, we REALLY MEAN it this time!
b) No more zero-day Defender vulnerabilities. Honest!
c) No more secret back doors via the web. Honest!
d) We promise to keep the slurped data to ourselves [and our partners], and occasionally to law enforcement when our spies find 'questionable' photos and downloaded content
e) No more zero-day vulnerabilities in Edge. Honest!
enough for now. you get the idea.
icon: it's me face-palming at the lameness, not saying "Doh"
"I won't step on your freedom/choice, you don't step on mine. Deal?"
You forgot, all of these *kinds* of "freedoms" are always ONE-SIDED - and the ONE side that FORCES YOU is always the winner. Enjoy your Win-10-nic! You're "free" to use it.
" why is MS doing this?"
many possible explanations exist, but I think the MAIN one is:
all of the senior, experience people that made Micro-shaft into the #1 OS provider [market-wise, not quality-wise] have RETIRED, and took their stock options and everything else, and are enjoying all of that money with all of that free time.
That left the company in the hands of MILLENIALS and ZEALOTS.
So the CHILDREN are running the show now, it's THEIR turn to do things THEIR way, and they're extermely ARROGANT about jamming their crap-ware into whatever customer orifices they can find.
And they're also CLUELESS, fall too quickly for the "new, shiny" trap [like a shiny lure on a fishing line], and have completely LOST TOUCH with what CUSTOMERS want.
And it's also very likely that "the right hand" does not have a clue about what "the left hand" might be doing over at Micro-shaft. Everybody's isolated in their own little fifedom, fighting for dominance and importance and generally creating chaos for "the big picture" on Win-10-nic. Hence the cluster-BLANK we're seeing.
THAT, and 'full system x86 emulator' running as SYSTEM.
I've always preferred "safe surfing", like
a) don't use windows to surf the web, if possible
b) don't log in with 'admin' privs if you surf "teh intarwebs" or read e-mail. EVAR.
c) don't use IE or Edge, if possible
e) don't allow flash (or adobe ANYTHING for that matter) plugins.
f) don't allow ANYTHING to 'take over' the browser UI. this especially includes toolbars or UI widgets of any form. This may require plugins to filter them out or block them.
g) NEVER view e-mail as HTML. *EVAR*
h) NEVER allow ANYTHING in an e-mail to "preview inline"
i) do NOT enable IPv6 on windows machines WITHOUT a comprehensive external firewall blocking ALL! OF! THOSE! OPEN! PORTS!
j) do NOT rely on "microsoft ANYTHING" for security
note I didn't include ANY anti-virus products. You don't need them, if you practice 'safe surfing'.
"how will you run the windows APPS that are the main reason people stick to Windows"
THIS is where _MARKETING_ comes into play...
Linux needs MARKETING. You get people to run it, and get used to "windows within a VM" for when they MUST have windows for something.
Simultaneously you get the 'big boy' vendors to do one of two things: either they SHIP LINUX VERSIONS (I hear Quickbooks is done in Java, so for Intuit it might be pretty simple!) or else they do a "Wine certification" so that they CERTIFY their applications will run under Wine.
Do this enough, and it will gain a life of it's own.
The problem is that NOBODY is doing that kind of marketing work.
HOWEVER, if we can manage to convince a few of the BIG BOYS (let's say Intel, AMD, Lenovo, Dell, and some of the others that will SELL HARDWARE AGAIN if a decent OS is available) that they need to invest in this kind of marketing, it MAY become practical enough that "it happens".
Yes, it takes MONEY and EFFORT to unseat a monopoly. I just described one way it can be done.
"Did you try booting into Windows with driver signing enforcement disabled"
I've done that for ME, while doing driver development (in 7, not win-10-nic - I don't do win-10-nic).
But I want to release an open source kernel driver to do something that's cool. And giving people the necessary build/install instructions to make that work is impractical, at best.
And it's obviously a *SICK* *JOKE* that NOW you basically have to give the damn binary to Micro-shaft and have THEM sign it, for Win-10-nic anyway. At least, that's what I remember reading last year.
I've mostly given up on windows development. may cancel my MSDN subscription, even. Their tools suck, their moving target for development UI stinks, and I haven't jumped on their bandwagon since they introduced ".Not". In fact I've had to go OUT OF MY WAY to make sure that DAMN THING isn't included in my project. It's bad enough I had to add a 'manifest' to an executable to keep vista and later from treating something as AN INSTALLER by accident, based on it's name. And the 2D FLATSO FLUGLY just makes me want to VOMIT. Devstudio after 2010 is FILLED with that kind of crap.
Basically I do NOT want to tie my career to the TITANIC as it goes STRAIGHT for the ICEBERG.
And I know how "easy" it is to work around their signing requirements. Except for end-users. And they'll see the "debug mode" watermark on the wallpaper, etc.. That's not the way to release open source software, ya know?
"with a Windows 10 UWP platform+Win10 user inferface bolted on top."
except THAT is the lipstick being painted on the non-oinky end of the Win-10-nic BOAR.
You can put Linux underneath, but if it LOOKS like WIn-10-nic, SMELLS like Win-10-nic and causes me to reflex-vomit if I attempt to TASTE it (like Win-10-nic), then WHY do it?
[yeah don't get me started on everything I *HATE* about Win-10-nic, which are all contained in the UWP 2D FLATSO FLUGLY "the METRO" CRAP-UI. I have few grips about the bottom end; it's the UI that I *HATE*]
Anyway, I'll take Linux with Mate instead. Or better still, FreeBSD! A "Win-10-nic" desktop manager would *JUST* *SUCK*.
I'd like to think so, but then again I'm not really happy about the *quality* of MS-written drivers [or else we wouldn't need so many 3rd party drivers maybe...]
What I'd like is a nice WORKAROUND or BACK DOOR to Micro-shaft's IRRITATING driver signing policy for kernel mode drivers.
"Linux's greatest weakness is its dependency on C for everything."
Uh, *WHAT* *THE* *FEEL* is *THAT* supposed to mean?
Linux's greatest weakness is (most likely) LACK OF MARKETING. Otherwise we wouldn't even have this article.
The C language might as well have been created by THE PROGRAMMING GODS. It is SUPERIOR to most other languages in just about every way, in its simplicity AND flexibility, and applicability to both low-level "hardware" coding, and high-level "UI" coding.
If you code in languages like C-pound and think that '.Not' is GOOD in any way, then I'll just sit back and laugh at you, really really hard.
So thanks SO much for the FUD. It echos like a Micro-shaft propaganda ad for NT4 server from the 90's.
"Pot, kettle, black" happened BEFORE any alleged Russian hacking of the DNC (dilate and cauterize?) when Obaka *OVERTLY* tried to interfere in Israel's election process.
The DNC hacking was (from what I can gather) from Assange's practical admission when a (now murdered) Demo-Rat insider, a Bernie supporter, was APPALLED at the level of collusion that was being done to elect Mrs. Clinton, and so he basically "leaked" everything. Couple THAT with a poorly chosen password of a high-ranking Demo-Rat and you've got yourself a nice document dump for WIkiLeaks, just in time for the election.
from the article: "When answered, they played a recorded message"
and that recorded message starts the moment my answering machine says "Hellloooo Baaaaby!" like the Big Bopper [followed by a pause, followed by a welcome to friends and family and 'for the rest of you' this number is on the national do not call list - I don't pick up the phone any more unless I hear someone I know leaving a message - no ringer either]. If the recording leaves ANY identifying information, a complaint is generated. And the answering machine message only has the back half of the thing, as it "starts talking" over the machine message EVERY! TIME!. Assuming it's not "just a hangup". I've been getting SEVERAL CALLS PER DAY lately, just like that. It's FORNICATING IRRITATING AS HELL! Can't use the phone as it was intended any more. If it weren't for DSL, I'd consider NOT EVEN HAVING ONE.
But how can you register a complaint with SPOOFED caller ID and NO identifying information in the recorded message??? I'm a RABID complainer to the FCC about these guys. I've got 'confirmed kills' on FAX spammers from a while back. I'd DROOL over a CONFIRMED kill with one of THESE BASTARDS! But they've rigged it so complainers like me can't touch them. You have to wait for the FORNICATING call center and bother to ask questions and get called back REPEATEDLY by them now that you've "established a relationship with them".
Oh, and there's no pit in hell deep enough, no jail cell damp and cold enough, no punishment HIDEOUS AND CRUEL enough, for these GOSH DARNED MOTHER-FEELING ROBO-CALLERS (word substitution for humor)! They deserve a triple-eternity sentence with DAILY TORMENT, to the point where they insanely scream "I DESERVE THIS!"
"but no comment about removing it from the profile that is built about you to help google target you with more adverts."
Ack. and don't forget every question you ever typed in for WebMD or some similar web site to see if you want to bother going to a doctor, or to inform yourself ahead of time to avoid unnecessary "whatever".
Or you could always have fun and look up a bunch of rare female diseases (if you're a male), or rare male diseases/conditions (if you're a female), and flood their metadata with useless nonsense. Then sit back and watch the funny ads, with beer and popcorn.
that's right ladies, penis enlargement ads! JUST for YOU! Men can get plenty of information about menopause and vaginal yeast infections sent to them, and maybe some sample feminine hygiene products on top of it...
I left SMB1 enabled in Samba because of Win XP machines. For now. But the shares are nearly all read-only.
The others I never use, either.
Emojis. Bleah. The only ones I use are profane and NSFW and therefore won't have little cartoony emblems pre-designed by Micro-shaft. Example: (.Y.) <-- that's a mild one
yeah let's see Micro-shaft do THAT one. HA HA HA HA HA
As Micro-shaft downplays their newly discovered vulnerability, getting something into the kernel in the first place is not THAT difficult, as long as you can manage a kernel driver load by tricking the user into installing the thing. Yeah, it's a bit more difficult with the newer cert requirements (that effectively punish small-time developers in a failed attempt to stop the malware, kinda like GUN CONTROL nonsense), but there *are* workarounds that could be used by carefully written installers to get around all of that. A few boots later, and voila! COMPROMISED!
So tricking the user into installing something malicious is the only real hurdle.
[it's pretty much the same deal with ANY computer system, really]
"Not to mention the number of times it's necessary to drop to command line in Linux to carry out operations that in Windows can be done by a few mouse clicks"
how about "not to mention the number of times it's necessary to take my right hand off of the damn keyboard in Winders to go mousie-clickie-mousie-clickie-mousie-clickie to carry out operations that in Linux can be done with a single clever shell command."
I stick my tongue out and make a raspberry noise in your general direction!
"As I recall, Mozilla Thunderbird was proclaimed "done". It happened July 6, 2012."
Despite being "done", it ended up with the "new, ugly" buttons that Mozilla uses for Firefox, including that *DAMNABLE* 'hamburger' menu pile of sewage.
Unfortunately, there aren't quite enough plugins for T-bird to get rid of the hamburger [though I was able to do it with firefox). I got the button appearance to change, but the DAMN HAMBURGER is STILL THERE! Grrrr....
[yet another example of "It SHOULD have been DONE, but then some millenial 'wizards' UNNECESSARILY SCREWED WITH IT and turned into THEIR way, and expected THE REST OF US to JUST LIKE it and CONFORM/COMPLY/SUBMIT"]
hmmm... that sounds like a good example of what the 'Millenial generation' of developers seems to be like: Instead of MIcro-shaft's "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" they're wanting the REST of us to "Conform, Comply, SUBMIT!"
"No behavior was changed but the code was changed to make use of the C99 declare-your-variable-in-the-for-loop construct. So apparently not yet done."
hopefully not an example of what Linus might call "compiler masturbation"
I think MOST software stopped being 'evolutionary' a while back, and became "we're millenials, it's OUR turn now to do it OUR way, screw you guys, we're doing it, stop being old farts and CHANGE!"
That's more de-evolutionary by my definition.
/me queues up some Devo music - "Go Monkey Go!"
I think I know which company did this. they greatly inconvenienced their customers (including one of mine).
If the customer wants to STAY WITH WHAT HE HAS, he should be able to.
It's BAD BUSINESS to "force" like that. Especially when it's done WITHOUT WARNING like that. It would be like changing their web server from Apache to nginx (or the other way around) and then it's like "oh, you didn't get the memo? here it is..."
or worse - from Linux to a WINDOWS server - without warning. "Case-sensitive file names? That actually MATTERS?" (among other things)
"But I also think that when they served their time you should also give them a fair chance to redeem themselves and sort it all out"
exactly. but the SJW's and "for the children" crowd want to punish these people *FOR* *LIFE*. Personally, I think it's already "gone too far" with the 'sex offender' registries and unnecessary restrictions on where they can live or work, etc.. There have been cases where a minor who takes naked pictures is now on an offender list for child pornography, or a case where an 18 yo has sex sith a 16 yo girlfriend and some SJW decides to ruin the 18yo's life [though the 2 get married later on]. And they were dating before the 18yo turned 18. So go figure.
If the law is merely an excuse to SCREW SOMEONE you don't particulaly like, or something to use as a stepping stone to greater power and influence, something's wrong with the law.
and when people are overly SJW "offended" and "outraged", I quote Shakespeare: "The lady doth protest too much". Or, a new twist on a familiar bible quote: those ninny nannies who are busy getting 'motes' out of other people's eyes should pay attention to the LOGS in their own, and last I checked, a 'mote' is a teensy piece of the SAME THING that the LOG is made from...
recycling isn't all THAT difficult...
a) secretly dump it in a dumpster for some apartment building where you don't live
b) beat with hammer until it's small enough, then place inside of a bag embedded in your kitchen trash, between the rotten food, used tea bags, and greasy paper towels.
and without being able to even CHANGE THE BATTERY, you're gonna have to toss it when PLANNED OBSCELESCENCE limits the product lifetime to something ridiculously short...
so yeah, don't buy one.
"The only impact of anti-crypto laws is to encourage bad people into using unbreakable private end to end encryption"
ok - let me substitute 'gun' for 'crypto' or 'encryption' and see if the EU keeps the same attitude...
This is an example of ONE thing the EU is getting right. Sorta like when Demo-Rats here in the USA get something right. it's rare, it's notable, and worthy of a thumbs up etc.. I sometimes have to give Diane Feinstein a slow-clap because of that. Even Obaka got one from me on rare occasions...
Keep in mind 99% of everything ELSE they're doing is NOT in your best interest. But this ONE thing, sure, they're getting it right.
/me slow claps
"The Firefox/Iceweasel issue came about due to Mozilla's trademark policy conflicting with Debian's stable release policy"
I think there might have been a bit more to it, but yeah that was a part of it allright. Also some of what Debian referred to as the "non-free" aspects of Firefox (back then) were excluded from iceweasel. Over time that has apparently been rectified, and we're all happy now. Hopefully.
"developers stop assuming systemd is installed."
we'd have to break the gnome dev's spirits before THAT will happen... sorta like "to ride a horse, you must first break him".
they have too much control over too many open source GUI applications that we all use.
I was APPALLED at what they did to evince. Fortunately Mate has Atril. But even that gave me some trouble on FreeBSD, when I tried to run it as "not the logged in user". Yeah, "all that CRAP" it apparently "needs". Or not. And that's the point.
The existence of Devuan and the BSD's should be a mighty force against the borg-like systemd taking over the desktop software.
/me regularly runs applications on the X11 desktop NOT as whatever user is currently logged in on the desktop. For customer projects, for example, I often create special users so I can store THEIR settings and files separate, etc. etc. and usually it's just a matter of "xhost +localhost" followed by "su - thatuser" and "setenv DISPLAY localhost:0.0" (or "export DISPLAY=localhost:0.0" for bash). THEN, the applications logged on as "the other user" run just fine alongside of everything else, often with a title that includes '(as thatuser)' so you can easily tell the difference. this makes even more sense for default editor settings and browser settings and things of THAT nature, where your company contract might require you to log in via google or use a different github login, and you don't want THAT globally polluting your REGULAR DESKTOP now do you?
And of course reliance on systemd would SCREW THAT UP a LOT
pressure from butane lighters - ever throw one into a fire? [I've heard about it, never done it - not recommended].
not saying the tech is bad [we're already using lithium batteries, made from one of the most reactive and unstable substances in the universe, in _everything_ these days] but choice of a different electrolyte might be a good idea. Something that stays liquid at room temperature and atmospheric pressure, for example, but still operates down to "chicago winter" temperatures.
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