Fight I say
Our robot overlords don't look so tough now !!!!!!
236 posts • joined 3 Feb 2015
With no Netware experience I was sent to a certain nuclear plant to perform Y2K checks on their servers. I explained the checks to the onsite guy who they allocated to babysit me until my security clearance came through and he showed me how to do them on the Netware servers which were labelled up primary, secondary and tertiary. Secondary and tertiary were critical but wouldn't cause a big stink if they failed - primary would result in a meltdown. Dec 31st 1999 I was searching for iodine pills and planning a route to a remote mine in Wales just in case.
Every single test I did (and there were hundreds) resulted in the same set of data. To save myself time I copied the first set and pasted them one for each server - only problem was there was a spelling mistake on one of the tests and they noticed it repeated for every platform I tested. It was a hard slog trying to convince them I'd actually done the tests and had to produce my original hand written results in full before they would believe me.
Advanced technology PMSL
"They" are people who (in a forum which has nothing whatsoever to do with Linux), insist in posting about what version or mint (other Linux variants are available) they have.
And scared of Linux - I use both windows and Linux FYI - each as their place
(advance technology my rear).
"for THAT! MUCH! they could have RE!-WRITTEN! every windows-only application to RUN! ON! LINUX! and *THEN* switched EVERYTHING over to Linux, and would have had MONEY LEFT OVER afterwards."
Bob, that much money wouldn't have made an ounce of difference.
I work in a clinical environment, a lot of the laboratory instruments I support are old - but they still work.
The majority of them are XP, with a smattering of Win7, Win10, W95, WFWG, W98, DOS
to bring those up to modern standards would necessitate the purchase of brand new instruments, some costing northwards of £600K. The failure at the NHS IMHO was in not separating those devices with elderly O\S's into VLans and protecting them from the big wide world as we have done.
Its not just the cost of buying the things, its the qualification, training and everything else you need to add on to it as well.
And an FYI - out of nearly 1000 instruments, only 1 is Linux and we keep that well away from our networks, oh, there's an android one too but we don't talk about that
Actual history ....... not in a clinical environment.
"Instead of copying everyone's files to give to the NSA they accidentally cut them. The fix is identify which files are yours and give you a copy back.
To use a previous users post with a small modification:-
If this was a story about a failure at Linux then your post would have merit. As it is it's just infantile.
"More like 'trace your digital steps and find what Microsoft was looking for'.... Tracking how you use your phone to try and stay relevant. Microsoft boss: 'Privacy is a human right' - My A$$!"
Tin hats available in aisle 2
"Is your wife self-employed, a contractor or similar? Otherwise, why is it your problem?"
Agreed, in most companies letting the employees partner (or anyone outside the company) mess about with how the PC is set up is grounds for a disciplinary, in some companies switching off updates where a PC doesn't receive a security update could be construed as gross misconduct.
Never flew on a comet but I did a few times on the Nimrod variant which I worked on at BAe Woodford, such a shame to see them take chainsaws to them the other year - I fitted the flight refueling probe to many of them.
Dan Dare used to fly the first HS 748 for many years (G-ARAY).Gary was housed in the back sheds at Manchester airport.
"At least some of the Greybeards here, must remember the battles that arose from IRQ confilicts..."
remember them !!
I was having one with a Win98 install last year - a 15 year old GC (that's gas chromatograph) that only runs with software written for Win 98. The card causing me all the problems had memory settings set by dip switches on the board.
Hardest part wasn't getting it working, it was getting my brain remembering to remember what id not done in so many years.
"The root problem is the ubiquitous use of Microsoft Windows in medical devices connected to the Internet."
wouldn't matter what the product is (but get your Microsoft bash in anyway)- ALL medical products are exempted from updates regardless of the OS - a change to a simple DLL file (or similar) could change the way an algorithm works and could at worst case kill somebody.
ALL such devices should be off a network which has connections to the internet, USB ports should be locked down, and if sharing the same switches etc. locked down VLans should be used. 90% of the 1000 + PCs I look after are patched to the installation date and never updated afterwards - we keep them away from the wild for this very reason. Simple to say update the kit but when a replacement instrument can cost £600k +, and the one you have works perfectly well......
accountants \ idiots \ both (delete as applicable), they will still continue to farm out data storage into the "Cloud".
Its bout time companies realise that saving a few quid today could cost them heavily in the future.
Bring it all back in house, then you only have yourself to blame - data is often the life blood of a company, its too valuable to let someone else have control over it.
"Can we pass a law in Westminster saying that our citizens can help themselves in US shops? Or that a speed limit of 70 mph applies on US motorways to English people?"
I think we should
the US embassy in London refused to pay the congestion charge on the grounds of diplomatic immunity, but UK embassy staff in the US don't have that luxury as they have to pass through toll booths.
Data held in servers in the EU should be subject to EU law only - but in reality we know that the US will never respect that nor any other laws that they don't pass.
Have a pint OffBeatMammal
exactly my point on here, Microsoft does it - out come the penguins on a rant
anyone else does it - silence
and yes, no year of Linux on the desktop - thank goodness - Id hate to have to consult the whining masses when I have a tricky issue, esp. one that involves integration in a Microsoft environment
"As for what you call rounded IT experience with these devices, you must be joking."
this is my point, regardless of how bad something is \ you may think it is, kids should be exposed to the whole range of computing experiences (my only caveat there is the price of Apple products and the limited budgets of many schools) .
My main issue with these forums is that the (currently) most ubiquitous platform (namely any Microsoft platform) is frequently derided here and according to a lot of the whiners should be eradicated.
There is a frequent cry that business etc. should be allowed to choose something other than Microsoft, and you know what - they have chosen. You may not like their choice but they have the right to make it, you may say its putting money into the pockets of the behemoth that Microsoft became, but they chose it - the simple thing is the vast majority of people don't want a kit of parts they have to sling together themselves, they want a pc they can switch on, do what they need to do and in that process never once resort to having to type unless its a message to someone or a line in a search engine.
There is a place for all O\S's out there, when you call for people to choose and they choose the one you don't like, respect their decision - and stop whining.
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