* Posts by keithpeter

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Capita and Birmingham City Council 'dissolve' joint venture

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Sun Java Desktop in Central Library

Talk of partying like it is 1999 (and we had some good parties then) does anyone else remember the Sun Linux based client computers in Birmingham Central Library? Circa millennium or a little after. Netscape 4 and StarOffice and I think it was a Gnome desktop.

I asked the library assistant how people coped with these and she said "the younger ones just sort it and the older ones need help whatever system it is".

Coat: off out now to admire the view from the top of our new and hugely expensive Central Library as I heard a rumour that the Shakespeare Room is actually open today.

http://www.computerweekly.com/news/2240075813/Birmingham-trials-Linux-in-40-libraries

Above is a later experiment. Perhaps we can have another try as email is Zimbra?

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Bankrupt school ITT pleads 'don't let Microsoft wipe our cloud data!'

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Re: Once you send your data to the cloud

"I see this as like renting an apartment."

Eviction for non-payment of rent does not mean the landlord owns the possessions of the tenant, at least in the UK.

https://england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/eviction/what_happens_when_bailiffs_evict_tenants

So I guess your analogy fails to fit exactly at the crucial point of what happens to the data. I guess you can't put it in plastic bags and leave it on the step.

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Re: Don't forget the fees.

Preservation fee is roughly 12x the outstanding rental payment. Is 2.5 x 10^6 dollars reasonable for a data dump? If so, should cloud agreements not have a 'data escrow' clause?

Disclaimer: clueless end user just wondering...

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European Patent Office dragged to human rights court – by its own staff

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Re: On a practical level

Quote from OA

"The situation has grown so bad that the ILO's management felt obliged to warn its governing body earlier this year that the backlog of complaints it had against the EPO was impairing its ability to function. No less than 73 per cent of the hundreds of cases it was reviewing resulted from EPO actions."

I thought that as well. Any situation where a relatively tiny organisation is causing a bottle neck in an important international conflict resolution org needs sorting out.

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Linux homes for Ubuntu Unity orphans: Minty Cinnamon, GNOME or Ubuntu, mate?

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Slackware default install with KDE

I personally would recommend some careful reading, experimentation on a test machine, and adoption of Slackware full install with KDE as desktop environment. This is assuming that readers of this particular forum have problem-solving abilities, a general background of IT skills, and curiosity. You can add package management, compile from source, and/or download binaries. It is remarkably difficult to break Slackware. I've tried.

What you get is what upstream pushed out. With choices, e.g. OpenOffice and LibreOffice installed and functional along with the default Calligra.

Some other observations on the OA follow...

"If you're going to use GNOME, right now, not having seen what Ubuntu is going to end up doing, I suggest trying it via Fedora."

Fedora Workstation is very nice, but the Korora Project makes it nicer with the Arc theme, a 'traditional' overlay on Gnome (Windows 7 work-alike), multimedia codecs/software installed, and a range of applications. Chapeau Linux is another 'batteries included' Fedora flavour that has less radical tweaking of the Gnome desktop.

"If you just click your way through the Debian installer you'll end up with a GNOME desktop, which offers a decent experience, but I find Xfce more suited to Debian."

Debian installer tasksel will provide a choice of desktops at the 'select software' stage. You can select more than one. Debian is also the only distro to allow offline installation of a YUGEtm range of software.

Finally OpenBSD. Just saying.

PINT: to all those involved with this outrageous, distributed, self organising, wonderful, argumentative, opinionated mud-ball of a project of totally free and unencumbered software. I clearly recollect the day I downloaded a live Ubuntu iso, burned it, and tried it out. Amazing. Thanks Mark, Pat and all.

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Secure Boot booted from Debian 9 'Stretch'

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Cores - Re: Most Linux distros are such flimsy OSes..

@Field Commander A9

What do you suggest people use on larger machines? Perhaps something like this...

http://www.sns.ias.edu/computing/hyperion_cluster/overview

...or the machines that run Google, Facebook and all the rest of the Interweb.

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Linux-using mates gone AWOL? Netflix just added Linux support

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Client?

Cheap tablet running a locked down Linux with a browser pointing at Netflix servers (branded alternative to ChromeOS)?

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O (n^2) Canada! Code bugs knacker buses, TV, broadband, phone lines

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"What's the O(n^2) connection?"

I was thinking combined probability of two independent events, but then that should be pq or something.

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Headcount

>> "A significant number of Shaw customers across Western Canada [were] impacted," said the comms giant, which has more than two million subscribers and employs 15,000 people. <<

That is one employee for every 130-odd subscribers. Seems a tad high to me - is this a normal ratio in the telecoms business or is the headcount larger because of the distances involved?

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Apache OpenOffice: Not dead yet, you'll just have to wait until mid-May for mystery security fixes

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Re: I admire their spunk!

"Personally I would like a healthy OO as another option against Slurp and I like LO. Having a couple of options also means there is some different ideas about the feature set and UI available."

Yup - LO are refactoring the code base - I remember them saying that earlier in the fork - quite a lot of the code goes back to StarOffice days apparently.

oOo are taking different tack and keeping quite a lot of the legacy code I gather so you have diverging back ends and, as 'lurker' says, a choice of UI models should LO do anything too ribbon like as default.

Note quite Joel Spolsky but it will be interesting to see how the code bases evolve if oOo survives.

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Re: I admire their spunk!

"My stance is simple: just because a project doesn't use the same release cycle as their competitors doesn't mean it's dead. "

I hope you are right. However, having developers on the project mailing list discussing the best way to 'retire' the software is not generally taken as a sign of rude health...

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/09/openoffice-after-years-of-neglect-could-shut-down/

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Re: I prefer OpenOffice

@ITS Retired

Interesting experience. oOo uses its own font rendering library and LO uses, since version 5 I think, the native library on the OS it is running on. Information about your OS and graphics driver would help pin that one down.

Concrete example: ancient Thinkpad X61s, intel graphics, intel open source driver under Slackware 14.2 with stock KDE, I could see a response difference between oOo installed from the Apache rpms on the one hand and the Alien Bob LO binaries/version built from source on the other.

Pint to all involved with both projects. I use them almost every day.

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Dark times for OmniOS – an Oracle-free open-source Solaris project

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Re: I never knew it existed.

"Log in as jack, and you can get a very ancient desktop (twm) using startx."

Suits me Sir, downloading now with a view to trying it out. I use xfce4 normally so quite like the idea of the Kitchen-Sink

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Re: It was designed to fail

"For an enlightening history of Illumos, there is a fantastic presentation from a guy at Joyent somewhere on the 'net, who originally came from Sun. Illumos is a great OS, and I hope has a long future."

@AC

Isn't illuminos the kernel?

@All knowledgeable about Solaris

Is there a currently available illuminos based OS for trying? Had a play with Oracle Solaris 11 on a thinkpad - sort of Gnome 2/2008-ish but it has to be said most things worked.

Pint: to anyone being 'let go' as a result of this development

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systemd-free Devuan Linux hits version 1.0.0

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Re: More honest questions

"First, has MATE had the sense to steer clear of SystemD as a dependency?"

@steelpillow

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/279603/using-mate-desktop-without-systemd

Above has a discussion and links to other resources including the Arch wiki and to Gentoo documentation.

http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download

link above lists the installation instructions for a range of Linux/*BSD distributions.

It looks as if the answer to your entirely reasonable question is "it depends on which options in the .config file the packager decided to enable"

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Doctor Who-inspired proxy transmogrifies politically sensitive web to avoid gov censorship

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Double edged?

"Goldberg anticipates that Slitheen will be available as open source within a year."

Have I understood this correctly? Could the software be used to frame someone? e.g. making entirely innocent content have the same profile as $notallowedcontent?

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Why Firefox? Because not everybody is a web designer, silly

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Re: Need more variety, not less

@Will Godfrey

Thought of using some vms? One for each task, and trash/restore once a week or so?

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Re: I recently ditched Firefox.

@bombastic bob

Considered Seamonkey? Still in most repos.

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.asoundrc documentation - Re: I recently ditched Firefox.

"(Although most people would probably be surprised at how much plumbing you can do, purely with ALSA. It's just that the .asoundrc syntax is odd, and it's not well-documented.)"

Please consider documenting what you know. Just a series of notes in a text file together with a functioning .asoundrc file would be fine.

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Canonical sharpens post-Unity axe for 80-plus Ubuntu spinners

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Lower numbers than expected?

The Man With The Stubble was talking about 30% to 60% cuts. Given the figure of 700 people, that translates by my arithmetic to 210 to 420 jobs gone. So numbers look lower than expected at the moment. I can also relate to the need to comply with different laws in different territories and I think that Canonical did a daring thing in having a really distributed workforce.

PS: I recollect, in a previous century, standing with a union branch official, on the steps of the college I was then teaching in, greeting staff as they came into work in the morning with names read off a fax of those who were being made redundant. Shit times - not even the rose-tinted spectacles of nostalgia can smooth over that one.

Pint: for all those seeking alternative employment. I'm assuming a really sharp skill set and a short holiday all.

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Mark Shuttleworth says some free software folk are 'deeply anti-social' and 'love to hate'

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Re: Always certain of a deeper purpose

"Anyone else suspect a "new improved" Canonical very soon with closed source parts and perhaps paid software?"

You can already buy support from Canonical for servers, and, I believe, the administration of large numbers of desktop systems. They make administration systems for large virtualised deployments.

Canonical may 'do a Red Hat' in the future and continue to provide source code under the GPL and charge a subscription for the binary distro and for the other tools. Might be tricky as Ubuntu is built on top of Debian unstable (at least I believe that the Debian Unstable packages are exported and used as a basis for the next Ubuntu release after much bug fixing and patching).

I'm not so sure about closed source/proprietary software but we shall see.

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Money

I gather that the decision to make between 240 and 480 people redundant was driven by the need to make Canonical attractive to (other) investors. Mr Shuttleworth has explained that, as part of that process, he decided to axe the mobile phone project. Hence, as others have explained, no need for Mir.

All the 'community' arguments don't trump the need for cold hard cash (aka working capital). Seems to work for Red Hat.

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Eric S. Raymond says you probably fit one of eight tech archetypes

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Or Belbin - Re: Myers Briggs?

http://www.belbin.com/about/belbin-team-roles/

Perhaps worth trying to map esr's 'archetypes' (a bit Jungian for this time in the morning thanks) to Belbin's team roles?

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Ubuntu UNITY is GNOME-MORE: 'One Linux' dream of phone, slab, desktop UI axed

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Re: one down, one to go..

@picturethis

"First there is one more item that has to go: that Pottering Piece of stinking Excrement called systemd. Only when that has been accomplished, will I start using and/or recommending any Ubuntu variant again."

You'll be waiting some time then as Ubuntu is based on Debian Unstable (Sid). They then freeze the packages and do their Ubuntu things to them.

Slackware runs a MATE desktop just fine. There are others.

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History and all

@thames

Thanks for a good outline of the history - I think that I remember a spat about notification libraries as being one of the reasons for the decision to build Unity as an alternative shell as well as concerns around basic usability.

In addition to Cinnamon, there are a couple of other UIs that provide an alternative to Gnome Shell. The Chinese distribution Deepin Linux and the modifications that Trisquel used to make to Gnome spring to mind. I think Trisquel is moving its UI away from Gnome now. Deepin provide source for their UI and Arch users have in the past succeeded in packaging the code.

It is worth mentioning that Canonical Design actually carried out and published the results of usability studies, albeit with basic tasks and subjects new to Ubuntu. There appears to be very little usability research published for gnome shell that I can find; some work was carried out by an intern one summer. If anyone has references, I'd love to see them.

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Mir -> Wayland then?

I'm assuming that the adoption of Gnome as the default desktop for Ubuntu 18.04 will entail use of the wayland graphical server/compositor in place of Mir?

Perhaps a concentration of available developer effort on something that works well might be for the best.

Coat: mine won't have an Ubuntu phone in...

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IBM to UK staff: Get ready for another game of musical chairs

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Re: So, which is it?

"unless you're talking about the public sector."

What percentage of your tax do you want me spending on redundancy payments and recruitment charges?

As a planning benchmark, annual churn is around 9% in UK public sector, so around 45000 'new' teachers and roughly 85000 'new' nurses per year (I suspect that 'new' may include return after family break to some extent). From my PHB days (decade ago) it cost around £1400 to advertise/interview/recruit and very occasionally another £5000 or so supply/agency staff costs, the latter payable when a teacher left suddenly.

We currently have a severe shortage of teachers (many leaving profession a year or two after completing training due to workload), and a significant drop in nurses in training (loss of bursary), so actual churn currently much higher than planned.

IBM employees are caught up in a large corporation changing its business model and they have my sympathy but corporations can do that. Can't send children home too often and can't close (too many) hospitals before people start voting you out mate.

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Automated, insight cannot be: Jedi master of statistics was good – but beware the daft side

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Nice article

Wondering what OA with her industry experience thinks of Edward Tufte's approaches to presentation? I take the points about underlying data quality well.

https://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/

One anecdote: pass rates in exams. Cohort of 100, pass rate 80%, confidence interval approx +- 2sqrt(0.8*0.2/100) which gives 4% either way or an 8% range. So often have I been plunged into emergency action because the *pass rate has dropped* by 2% (i.e. two effing people)! Noise driving management action is *so* much fun.

(a trend over years would be a whole other thing of course)

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Talk of tech innovation is bullsh*t. Shut up and get the work done – says Linus Torvalds

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Re: even the 2 month cycle is ridiculous

Uname -a tells me that I have 2.6.32-504.el6.i686 running at present on my old Thinkpad X61s (Stella Linux, a Centos 6 'remix). Hardware vintage matches well with kernel. Newer hardware not so much. Plus Centos/Redhat backport certain fixes to their stable kernels.

If it works for you, then go with it! The freedom of OS.

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Vinyl, filofaxes – why not us too, pleads Nokia

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3120

Nokia 3120 (the original small silver S40(?) phone with the colour display, not the later 3120 classic) was the employer-issued phone I used a lot when I had to do deals/negotiations. Twas on an Orange business contract I recollect. Plenty of money/business went through that phone. Never managed to get hold of a data cable alas for calendar sync.

Still works fine, has a t-mobile vintage payg sim in it and is used for emergencies at home.

31 day battery life sounds interesting so may look at the retro offering.

Coat: mine's the one with that very small phone pocked sown into the lining...

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The Register's guide to protecting your data when visiting the US

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Re: 2FA with the remote device *well* away ?

Minimum necessary encypted data/image uploaded to cloud before travelling

Clean phone and laptop as suggested by governments for visiting 'dodgy' countries through border

Once in, download encrypted data/image and install

Wipe and restore clean image before leaving.

Isn't that what all the bad actors are going to be doing anyway?

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New York to draft in 250 IT contractors because state staff 'lack talent'

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Re: In house impossibility

"Technology is moving very quickly and without being able to work on systems, on a full time basis, or having the resources [necessary] to keep up to date, it is almost impossible to master the systems that we now work with."

Why is this increase in complication occurring? What business need drives it? Is this some law of the universe, like the Second Law of Thermodynamics? Or is it new systems being overlaid on older systems with each layer introducing second order effects?

coat: clueless end user going down the shop for croissants and coffee.

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Oh, the things Vim could teach Silicon Valley's code slingers

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Re: Frameworks

"The problem with "frameworks" is that, like buses, there will be another one along in a little while."

And quite possibly three along at once (97, Birmingham, only recourse is a beer)

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Trump's cyber-guru Giuliani runs ancient 'easily hackable website'

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Re: A touch of the mfws would not go amiss

Recycling Zed Shaw's Programming, MFker meme. Shaw has written a load of tutorials, and provided a template for other people to write tutorials in the same style, so he isn't just braw shit.

A gentler and more polite version is at https://justinjackson.ca/words.html

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Re: You've all been had.

Evidence for your position: who the freekin' hades needs a CMS to manage 17 pages? The News page is averaging less than one post a month.

Strikes me a decent template and static html in a defensively configured server would be best for an actual corporate calling card.

A touch of the mfws would not go amiss

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Fedora 25: You've got that Wayland feelin', oh, that Wayland feelin'

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KDE and xfce4 seem OK on Fedora 25 (both with GDM) as well as the default Gnome 3. The KDE 'spin' is actually very nice and runs responsively on a very modest dual core laptop with 2Gb RAM and a small SSD drive.

As a result of US patents (finally) running out, mp3 playback is easily installable on 25 and encoding/playback is likely in 26/27 without enabling extra repositories.

I personally find anaconda, the installer program, with its 'spoke and wheel' logic extremely confusing and I need to flail around a bit to achieve a custom partition layout. I need to specify a custom layout because anaconda insists on allocating 60Gb of disk space for root and the remainder for home when using auto-partition. A bit tricky if you have a small SSD drive (e.g. 64Gb). Most normal people probably won't be (re)installing that often, especially if the version to version update actually works well.

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Those online ads driving you bonkers are virtually 'worthless for brands'

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Re: Freebies

@werdsmith: In Birmingham it seems to be strangely flavoured soft drinks. I just collect a few on the way in and hand them out to students.

Coat: can fit about 4 cans in my greatcoat.

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Re: Puzzled - A Case Study

"Sprinkle a little powder on the nest and they are every last one dead within 12 hours."

@Tikimon: business opportunity. Set up as a Fire Ant Disposal Expert. Charge a fee just smaller than several bags of the branded product to apply your more effective alternative (in special plain red bags). Profit.

Tramp: UK, so glad we have a temperate climate and non-invasive fauna.

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My fortnight eating Blighty's own human fart-powder

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Re: I really don't see the point

@DrXym and all

"If I could prepare proper meals every day I would, and would probably ditch Huel in a heartbeat; perhaps at best leaving some in a cupboard for emergencies of some kind."

Quote above from OA (I wish OA the best of health by the way and I count my blessings being in possession of two strong and well functioning legs after 6 decades on the planet).

How long does the powder last I wonder?

Beer icon: no food icon available

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Folders return to Windows 10's Start Thing

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Re: Windows Key + Keyboard

"Since Windows 7 I have become so used to hitting the Windows Key + plus typing the name of the program that I want that I almost no longer use the Start Menu as such.."

@Khaptain: depending on the programs one needs to use, I find that this works on [ linux | gnome | xfce4 | dwm* ] just fine at home, as well as on Windows 7 and Windows 10 for Education at work.

Once in the software I use most (Firefox, Libreoffice, GIMP, R, texlive | miktex, Audacity) I find I lose track of which system I'm using quite often.

*dwm: you need to edit the config.h and recompile.

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Twas the week before Xmas ... not a creature was stirring – except Microsoft admitting its Windows 10 upgrade pop-up went 'too far'

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Re: Next OS

"In last 21 years of installing Linux, Windows etc, I've never seen such a big switch to Linux as this year."

Do the users you support have sudo to allow installation of software and updates?

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Christmas Eve ERP migration derailed by silly spreadsheet sort

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Re: AST Premium 386

"Chance for some clever IT so-and-so to implement Wake-on-LAN for the furnaces [snip]"

Not a great fan of furnaces warming up unattended (or at least unobserved) myself. The furnaces I used to use many decades ago were in the 5 litre crucible size range and quite small mind you.

Coat: off out now.

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Snapchat coding error nearly destroys all of time for the internet

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Re: Could this explain why

"(My GF and I used to do time traveler roleplaying involving lots of spandex, we never accessorized the experience with 'paychecks from the future', she took the spandex when we broke up.)"

@DNTP and all

My time travellers wear frock coats and tartan waistcoats. Serviceable in most centuries for chaps we find.

Coat: mine's the one with the penny whistle in the pocket.

ntp: almost worth setting up a cheap server somewhere. How hard is it to run one of these?

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Microsoft quietly emits patch to undo its earlier patch that broke Windows 10 networking

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Re: Emergency boot partition

"(yes, with Unity; I am the one person, apparently, who actually likes it)"

@JulieM: it's reverse Streisand syndrome. Only the ones who hate Unity mention it at all. The happy bunnies just get on with their work.

(I'm the one who likes Gnome 3).

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Re: ,So there's an online fix for not being able to get online?

"And just HOW, precisely, would I get the fix on a computer that can't go online to get the fix?"

Boot off a USB stick containing a live Linux distribution[1], connect to wifi[2], and then download the fix file and save it to a second USB stick. Reboot, copy and patch.

[1] Canonical will sell you a USB stick with Ubuntu on it for a fiver. There are many others, including Tails.

[2] OK, perhaps a cable into the router if the computer does not have wifi or has a proprietary driver that isn't widely available on Linux yet - fairly rare.

Coat: mine's the one with the bootable USB drive with Debian non-free live on it AND a netgear USB wifi adaptor that does not require any firmware.

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Take that, creationists: Boffins witness birth of new species in the lab

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Re: Want to see a "young earther" squirm?

"[0] Nicely halted by the Imperial Valley and LA drinking it all, but that's another rant."

@jake: Warning, clueless Brit here.

What is your take on the water treaty situation down there?

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/colorado-river-mexico-water-sharing-trump-231811

Beer icon: you might need as many bottles as you can get soon...

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HBO slaps takedown demand on 13-year-old girl's painting because it used 'Winter is coming'

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Re: overhaul?

"So that painting may be worth $100 million. It's very nice!"

@elfaegis and all

Printing a few copies now to pin round College next week, and it will be featured on all my whiteboard screens. Small donation being made to Asperger's charity.

Sort of reverse Streisand effect anyone?

PS: trips round the circle (of fifths) are common in Music; Bach Well tempered clavier, Schubert Winterreise. Perhaps an Enso practice might be of interest to the youngster involved?

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Confirmation of who constitutes average whisky consumer helps resolve dispute

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Re: Blended

@Phil W

"Supermarket own label piss, and stuff like Bells and Teachers is only suitable for use as a cleaning fluid."

Actually, I quite like a good measure of supermarket grain piss in my no-name ground coffee on mornings this cold. Gets the circulation moving and no sense wasting the good stuff.

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Re: @ JetSetJim

"Isn't a man entitled to a wee dram before his lunch? Have you ever met any journalists??"

@Archtech: perhaps we are harking back to the previous century. Current journos are quite abstemious in my experience.

Coat: Mine's the one with the shorthand pad full of teeline

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Uncanny hacks-men to attend special school in grand country home

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Hut 6

Reissue of the original first edition of Gordon Welchman's The Hut 6 Story as a set text?

Seriously: peer groups and 'invisible colleges' are important institutions so I wish the first cohort well. They should have a fascinating time.

Coat: mine's the one with the Atlas of finite group representations in the pocket.

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