* Posts by P0l0nium

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Windows on ARM: It's nearly here (again)

P0l0nium

Screen power ....

Since 50-70% of the device power goes to the screen then why would anyone bother having the most efficient SOC at any cost?

And there's no evidence that an ARM SOC is any more efficient than an X86 SOC doing the same work. If there was then the world would be full of ARM servers.

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Intel's €1bn EU antitrust appeal: What the heck is the AEC test?

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Re: I also just wonder...

Would you care to name that "certain company" and explain why they didn't offload the extra "free ones" on the grey market..??

Or are you just another "fake news" bot who hates any entity more successful that you ??

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Vodafone won't pay employee expenses for cups of coffee

P0l0nium

Simples ...

You stun a pigeon and fry it up on your travel iron*. Problem solved :-)

(* Dilbert- c1999)

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Intel stuffs extra cores into latest mobile Series U Core i5 and i7 chips

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Re: OK, I'll bite

How are these "new" chips better?

Well .....

-They deliver more instructions per clock.

-They use less energy per task,

-They will live in a 15W power envelope.

-You get 8MB L3 Cache.

-They can access faster memory.

-They have a much better IGP.

Apart from that , no difference at all really, ;-)

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Atomic bonds: Gigabyte, Supermicro fire out boosted Atom CPU range

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Re: Stats

FYI ... The Avoton C2730 (nice slow-clocked 8 core Silvermont Atom) was the single most efficient CPU on the planet.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8357/exploring-the-low-end-and-micro-server-platforms/17

Its what killed "ARM server" before they got started :-)

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Core-blimey! Intel's Core i9 18-core monster – the numbers

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Bragging rights ...

The "high end" of this HEDT thing is all about bragging rights: Intel scrambled to release an 18 core part because they weren't about to have AMD deliver "moar coars" .

So now they have problems getting the heat out of this thing and the AMD part has an advantage there because its "heat generating area" is larger and distributed (because it has 2 or 4 widely spaced die under a bigger slug of copper).

So I guess we're about to find out if Intel's "process advantage" is real ... right ??

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Toshiba chip biz auction: Picks Japan-Bain fund bid

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Soon ALL semiconductor factories will be government owned.

What could POSSIBLY be wrong with that ??

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EPYC leak! No, it's better than celeb noodz: AMD's forthcoming server CPU

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Re: "...real competition to the Intel elephant? That seems unlikely,..."

An alternative reading of the same facts would say:

1) Zen is a core that is 20% down on both IPC and frequency vs Skylake.

2) GF's yields suck and they can't (cheaply) build anything bigger than 200sqm.

3) In a contest between a large die and an MCM - the monolithic solution always wins.

4) You know nothing about Intel's yields (and neither do I , these days:-)

I'm sure that YOUR needs can be met with an AMD processor.

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P0l0nium

Re: Can AMD be bought?

AMD loses their right to use X86 if they experience a "Change of Control" ... And that doesn't apply to the other party's use of AM64 (Intel).

Only the entity that has a "Change of control" loses its license.

It was done to prevent any large entity (e.g, a government) strong-arming their way into PCs.

(Which has effectively now happened anyway with all these ARM smartphone SOCs being built in government sponsored 14nm Fabs).

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Intel to Qualcomm and Microsoft: Nice x86 emulation you've got there, shame if it got sued into oblivion

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Re: Tough Times at Santa Clara

"We are not pretending that our calculations are 100% accurate, but they should be close enough."

That comment was made re a decision whether the X86 Avoton or the X86 Xeon was more efficient. The ARM part was one third as efficient.

Here's another hopeless but much hyped ARM server product:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9956/the-silver-lining-of-the-late-amd-opteron-a1100-arrival/3

" The expected performance and power consumption are most likely not competitive with what Intel has available".

And that's from Johan DeGelas - a long time ARM server cheerleader.

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P0l0nium

Re: Tough Times at Santa Clara

There is no evidence that an ARM server is any more efficient than an X86 server. Quite the reverse, in fact.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8357/exploring-the-low-end-and-micro-server-platforms/17

There's no evidence, but there is a LOT of marketing :-)

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P0l0nium

Re: Tough Times at Santa Clara

Re: 4 small chips = 1 big chip ... If this was true then the world would have been full of Muti-Chip-Modules many decades ago: And its not :-)

And who says that 8 Cores in 200sqm marks the best price-performance compromise ??

Makes you wonder why Intel invested all those billions in defect reduction, doesn't it ??

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Germany to Facebook, Twitter: We are *this* close to fining you €50m unless you delete fake news within 24 hours

P0l0nium

Does this apply to posts in Welsh ??

And what happens when I post "fake news" in Navaho ??

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Microsoft: Can't wait for ARM to power MOST of our cloud data centers! Take that, Intel! Ha! Ha!

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So why don't you show the world where you can buy an i7 6900K for $700 ...

Not here

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-6900K-Processor-FC-LGA14A-BX80671I76900K/dp/B01FJLAIG0

And still listed at $1000+ on ARK.

https://ark.intel.com/products/94196/Intel-Core-i7-6900K-Processor-20M-Cache-up-to-3_70-GHz

If there was a checkbox for hyperbole , you'd get some informed upvotes.

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P0l0nium

Re: You've come a long way, baby

ARM is now owned 75% by the Japanese and 25% by the Sheikh of Abu Dhabi

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/03/08/softbank-sell-25pc-arm-giant-tech-fund/

Don't get TOO patriotic :-)

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Intel's dying Atom chips strike again: Netgear recalls four ReadyNAS, Wi-Fi management lines

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Re: Based on my empirical data

I would speculate that its a "capacitative load" issue caused by driving a large copper track up and down with a fast transistor. The inrush current spikes can get very large and cause elecromigration in the power rails. The QA meeting must have been interesting:

"You overloaded the output transistor"

"No we didn't"

"Yes you did ... for 3 Nanoseconds every clock pulse :-)"

Would explain why costs are being shared. Cisco took a $125M hit last quarter on this issue. Intel's share was undisclosed but large.

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We burned chips in 2016... but then semiconductor sales got healthy again. Whew

P0l0nium

Those fries look MOST unhealthy :-)

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/cancer-roast-potatoes-burnt-toast-starchy-foods-could-cause-cancer-acrylamide-food-standards-agency-a7540916.html

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Chinese chip shop looks hot to trot as Tsinghua drops $30bn on factory

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Where is the WTO when you need them ??

How long before Uncle Sam (or Uncle Donald) realises that "someone" is diffusing wafers below cost and imposes tariffs on all products containing Chinese memory ??

And then they can go after anyone else getting their expensive R&D done in state funded "universities" :-)

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Prepare for ReRAM speed! Crossbar samples SMIC chips

P0l0nium

Show me the wearout numbers :-)

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Low-end notebook, rocking horse shit or hen's teeth

P0l0nium

"Everyone and their mother" already HAS a Tablet... and has no compelling case to buy a replacement.

Tablets and notebooks are in about equal decline...

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Ghost of DEC Alpha is why Windows is rubbish at file compression

P0l0nium

The DEC Alpha lives on in China ... apparently.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunway

Microsoft aren't alone in coding for the worst CPU on the planet :-)

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What should the Red Arrows' new aircraft be?

P0l0nium

A bus to the job centre....:-)

Having the RAs at the end of the show allows me to extract my car from the muddy field early.

And they can put the Tannoy guy on the same bus.

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Samsung are amateurs – NASA shows how you really do a battery fire

P0l0nium

Re: Only 96 batteries

Nearly TWO THOUSAND !!

I have witnessed 2 people being killed in a petrol fire and it is not pretty. The limiting factor in the energy release from a fuel tank is the rate at which the air can get to the gasoline.

The limiting factor in the energy release from a battery fire is ... (insert marketing babble here).

Its a bomb!!

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Want to use 3D XPoint DIMMs with Intel Purley Xeons? Wait a couple of years for second-gen

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Re: Delays, delays...

The press have a serious case of "Münchhausen syndrome by Proxy" over Xpoint.

Intel said they would be sampling in Q4 and taking revenue in Q1... and they never promised that gen1 Purley would support Xpoint DIMMs

Where's the "bluff" and where's the delay ??

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AMD is a rounding error on Intel's spreadsheet and that sucks for us all

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Re: Sigh

They gave AMD a Billion Dollars and the rights to go Fabless.

AMD has existed for nearly 50 years and is now worth less than it was in 1974 having never paid a dividend.

There is something wrong there besides a few years of "robust competition" from Intel.

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P0l0nium

Re: Sigh

"It can't be a properly operating market. There has to be a nasty explanation, underhand dealing.."

Well why don't we just skip the "Evidence process" and levy fines ... right ?? :-)

What could POSSIBLY be wrong with that ??

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-20/intel-should-win-fight-over-1-16-billion-fine-court-aide-says

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Intel XPoint over-selling criticism surges as Chipzilla hits back

P0l0nium

Lots of opinions but .....

... No data !

Now who'd a thought it? ... on an El Reg vox-pop !! :-)

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VW Dieselgate engineer sings like a canary: Entire design team was in on it – not just a few bad apples, allegedly

P0l0nium

I wouldn't be surprised ...

... if somewhere there's an exchange of emails with a "regulator" that says:

- "Is it OK if we pass your stupid test like this ??"

- "Yeah, sure !! - Where's that lunch that you promised us ??

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It's OK to fine someone for repeating a historical fact, says Russian Supreme Court

P0l0nium

Re: Or the Russians haven't updated their website yet

"faulty statement."

This is not a "faulty statement" ... Two parties can "jointly invade" Poland without "simultaneously invading" it.

And if the secret protocol of the Ribbentrop/Molotov pact isn't "close collaboration" I don;t know what is.

He missed the bit about the USSR shipping vast quantities of raw materials to Germany in order that they could build the bombs that fell on London.

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The calm before the storm: AMD's Zen bears down on Intel CPUs

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Re: The problem for AMD

GlobalFoundries has the Sheikh of Abu Dhabi as a Sugar-Daddy, They just got paid $$Billions to haul away the trash that was IBM Microelectronics and they just got given Samsung's 14nm process for free !!!! Also ...they don't have to publish accounts.

How can they NOT have "the same sort of cash to burn as Intel" ???

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Xeon Phight! Phight! Phight! Nvidia says Intel cheated benchmarks

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Re: Same old, same old.

Why would Intel do that when Anandtech already did it for them??... Very comprehensively ... Against all currently available ARM server platforms :-)

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10353/investigating-cavium-thunderx-48-arm-cores

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8357/exploring-the-low-end-and-micro-server-platforms

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9956/the-silver-lining-of-the-late-amd-opteron-a1100-arrival

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Intel overhyping flash-killer XPoint? Shocked, we're totally shocked

P0l0nium

Its just Marketing... everybody does it... get over it!!!

In other news ... Large corporation produces marketing material that highlights the absolute best attributes if its new product..

It can address a single bit 1000X faster than NAND Flash .... get over it and stop bitching.

Anandtech don't seem to have a problem with "1000X faster".

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9470/intel-and-micron-announce-3d-xpoint-nonvolatile-memory-technology-1000x-higher-performance-endurance-than-nand

You've been churning out this same crap for months and we're all tired of it.The only question is "What motivates Chris Mellor"??

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/15/intel_xpoint_emperor_has_no_clothes/

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By 2040, computers will need more electricity than the world can generate

P0l0nium

Re: Modern Malthusians

It wasn't Ronald McDonald ... it was Fritz Haber.

He figured out how to turn the atmosphere into food !!

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Juno's 1,300-pic Jupiter vid

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Re: What a waste !!!

Well, to be fair : The Pluto pictures WERE a substantial part of "the point of the mission"... These are not. No one demanded pretty pics of the "Higgs Boson" in order to justify the $9B toroidal "hole in the ground".

So lets give funding to all the projects that can deliver pretty pictures ... huh ??? I'm sure that'll advance the frontiers of knowledge REALLY FAST !!!

Democracy sucks ..!! ("But everything else we tried was worse" - WS Churchill")

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P0l0nium

Re: What a waste !!!

Wait for what ??? Someone to create a 200KB GIF animation that shows the same thing ??

NASA put a camera on this thing for reasons of "public outreach". The only way they can securely fund serious research is to run a "Punch and Judy" show FFS.

"Ooooh..... pretty pictures" ..... that's NOT THE POINT OF THIS MISSION !!!!

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P0l0nium

What a waste !!!

2.5 Gigabytes of download and storage yields a view of Jupiter no better than you can get from your back lawn with a 6 inch reflector.

Sponsored by Cisco, Intel and Seagate ???

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Brit chip biz ARM legs it to Softbank for $32bn

P0l0nium

Free money ...

In a world where money is free because they've been printing it for years then a whole load of stupid investments start to look sensible.

"The plan" is to take ARM's nice revenue stream and use it to pay virtually zero interest on the loan and pocket the rest.

Amusingly... this acquisition of the world's most successful chip company is about half financed by the sale of a "freemium" phone game... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_of_Clans

Now that's "added value" :-)

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Lightning strikes: Britain's first F-35B supersonic fighter lands

P0l0nium

Re: Harriers

Last I heard these are F35Bs ... with lift fans. The same vertical landing variant that the US marines ordered.

Personally, I think they'd have been better off with the C variant. Why fly a short range 'plane from a honking great carrier ???

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Intel still chip, chip, chippin' away at the European Commission's anti-trust fine

P0l0nium

FYI, they already paid the fine and accounted for it. They want their money back.

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Bill Gates cooks up poultry recipe for Africans' paltry existence

P0l0nium

Goats...

Goats are only popular in Arab countries ... for some reason.

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P0l0nium

What they really need is ...

More Guns!!! Without guns how will they defend their chickens from marauding neighbours and feral dogs??

The real "need" in the 3rd World is "Rule of Law" and some leaders who can answer the question "Why are you in charge ?" without answering:

a) Because I have a large private army.

b) Because I know what's best for you.

c) God put me here.

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ARM Cortex-A73: How a top-end mobe CPU was designed from scratch

P0l0nium

Re: How about an octal-core ARM based laptop/netbook?

FYI ... There is no "power efficiency of ARM vs x86"

In servers X86 wins hands down on "efficiency" .. even on an equivalent process.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9956/the-silver-lining-of-the-late-amd-opteron-a1100-arrival/2

And its been possible to make a power competitive X86 smartphone for the past 2 generations

http://www.trustedreviews.com/motorola-razr-i-review

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9251/the-asus-zenfone-2-review/3

Intel's problem is not "power efficiency" ... Its the management, the culture and the inability to cut corners without screwing up !!

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P0l0nium

Process or Architecture ???

They got 30% more performance using a 10nm process that offers errrrrr..... 40% more performance.

Am I missing something here or does this Emperor have no clothes ??

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The Windows Phone story: From hope to dusty abandonware

P0l0nium

Re: I wonder when Microsoft is finally going to pull the plug.

FYI ... It is perfectly possible to make a power-competitive X86 smartphone and it has been for the past 2 generations.

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/mobile-phones/52109/motorola-razr-i-review

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9251/the-asus-zenfone-2-review

And the SAME X86 CORES at the SAME POWER LEVELS offer superior performance per watt over the ARM cores in servers - even before the advent of Intel's 14nm server chips.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8357/exploring-the-low-end-and-micro-server-platforms/17

Intel's problem is not the architecture ... its the management.

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P0l0nium

Re: I wonder when Microsoft is finally going to pull the plug.

FYI ... X86 has been "RISC" since the "Ppro" in 1999

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reduced_instruction_set_computing

"While early RISC designs differed significantly from contemporary CISC designs, by 2000 the highest performing CPUs in the RISC line were almost indistinguishable from the highest performing CPUs in the CISC line"

So your logic disappears in a puff of smoke, no ?? But that doesn't stop you posting nonsense on here, does it ??

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Booming sales of flippy detachables offers hope to glum PC market

P0l0nium

Re: At which point...

What they really meant was ...

"We want the company to pay for something we can watch Pr0n on ..."

They're not called "Fondleslabs" for no reason, and the market is static because everyone already has one that's "good enough".

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EU mulls €3bn fine for Google

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Re: itunes

Last time I pointed out the same thing in the time of "bundled browsers in PCs" I was told by the Apple crowd that Apple weren't sinners because they were a small part of the market.

But now ....... :-)

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Intel literally decimates workforce: 12,000 will be axed, CFO shifts to sales

P0l0nium

Re: here we go again

As an ex-employee and stockholder, the sight of a full parking lot always gets me depressed :-)

But yes, they "acquired" 5K people in the last 12 months so it was pretty inevitable, I think.

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P0l0nium

Re: Makes one wonder...

"The X86 business is fading away....."

Sure it is ... with 98% of the server market and about 100% of the fastest growing "consumption device" sector there is : "premium ultramobile" AKA "convertibles". All done with a 62% gross margin.

While phone and tablet markets are stagnant.

http://www.cnet.com/news/tech-will-be-anemic-in-2016-gartner-predicts/

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P0l0nium

Re: What was the Plan

They hired 5000 in the past 12 months !!!

At Intel, RIP means "Retired In Post" :-)

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