* Posts by mmeier

1428 posts • joined 31 Jan 2013

Spanish Linux group files antitrust complaint against Microsoft

mmeier

Re: I don't understand.

Oh, a proper UNIX is totally acceptable use for good hardware. Solaris is a mighty fine and highly stable/performant server system. And some of the BSD variants are also nice and stable.

Now Linux, well Linux reminds me of the old joke where a Jew ask his Rabbi:

Rebbe, may I carry Dollar around on Sabbat - No my son

Rebbe, Deutschmark? - No way

Rebbe, Zloty? - Sure, the laws talk about money

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mmeier

Re: The reason UEFI can be disabled for WIndows 8 and not for RT

And why should the big hardware manufactures follow them? Even more the ones that do mainly mainboards not full systems? Or the companies that also sell servers sometimes even with their own (or licenced) UNIX on it?

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Re: Secure Boot

Okay, just between you, me, Bill an Steve - That is THE PLAN! Once everyone uses UEFI on their motherboards there is a big switch in Redmond that gets turned to "Kill all Penguins" and bam - all PCs world wide will only boot Windows! With Tiles!

But you can save your pc - just give him a lil tinfoil cover like the one you wear on your head

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Microsoft splashes coat of paint on Windows 8 comms apps

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Re: MS Experience - that means suffering, right?

Correction: Solaris since version 8! not11

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mmeier

Re: MS Experience - that means suffering, right?

Hmm, let me see (Just the once I wrote software/did admin work on)

Netware 3.x

ORG/M Real time OS on SICOM Systems

ONX (x86 version)

Sun OS 4.x on Sparc Station

SOLARIS since version 11

Various Linux since Kernel 0.9x (evaluation use, typically against SOLARIS)

SCO Unix

MS-DOS since 2.11

Win/DOS since 2,x

Win/NT since 3.51

OS/2 (all versions)

Interactive Unix

Sinix

ATARI TOS

Step5 and Step7 (MPC)

Android 2/3/4

Yup, never used anything except Windows in the last 25 years - NOT!

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mmeier

Re: MS Experience - that means suffering, right?

And 12 month from now they love <cool thing x> and <hip stuff y>. Teenagers are about as stable as old, sweaty dynamite on the back of a truck racing down a jungle road.

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mmeier

Re: Outlook and Taskline

Neither Outlook/Exchange nor Notes/Domino have any problems on a decently setup system since the days of XP and IIRC Office 2003. Very low memory can cause lags in Outlook and crashes in Notes (The SWT part most likeky), Outlook does not like "shakey" network connections (or extremly long lags) and nags for username/password. But thats it. Works even if some genius puts the AD server on the other side of the pond...

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mmeier

Re: MS shows the sheep, er Windows users, the abattoir, er, MS Store

Can't say about RT, don't care for toys. But I CAN say for Win8/x86 that there is ABSOLUTELY no problem installing software from other sources.

As for the immense 10€ price of Windows - I will survive that. Yup 10€ is the average money I would get back from an OEM these days (was 25€ a few years back but is lower now)

Modern is not compulsory. All Win7 / Vista / XP compatible programs run fine on the desktop. And if you absolutely dislike Modern as a start screen even that can be fixed. I see no need / benefit in this but YMMV

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mmeier

Re: First impressions are what count.

Actually in the real world they laugh about the Gnulibans repeated claim that "THIS year will be the year of Linux on the desktop!"

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mmeier

Re: MS shows the sheep, er Windows users, the abattoir, er, MS Store

Strange again what happens in the Gnulivers. Meanwhile in the real world:

+ Nobody is forcing me to use the Modern apps

+ Nobody is forcing me to use the Appstore (or register with MS)

+ The MS apps are free

+ Linux has been doing almost the same and calls it "Repository" and "great idea"

Besides Appstores and updates are common in iOS, Fragmentdroid and quite a few other operationg systems that have market shares in the two digit range

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Next from Microsoft: 'Blue', the Windows 8 they hope you don't hate

mmeier

Re: 3rd Party Start Menus are no longer an option.

Hint a: Some of us have to use customer pc that we can not change while we show the owner /user some features of the software

Hint b: not all machines ale user configureable

Hint c: In some training situations it must be exactly like the user but

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mmeier

Re: How many programs...

Actually the "tablet" in XP Tablet edition refered to 10-14'' tablets WITHOUT any touch - pen only WACOM or NTRIG digitizers back then. Even today they have the option "disable smear mode" as part of the control panel - and many users do.

And once you have a penable - it beats a notebook in truely mobile use AND can still be one on a desk (BT keyboard/mouse) even with adjustable distance between keyboard and screen for the "pure" tablets (Convertibles/Hybrids are like notebooks)

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mmeier

Re: How many programs...

And a pi is - NOT a tablet! Currently all ARM tablets run castrates OOB - be they iOS, Fragmentdroid or Win/RT. The only ARM tablet in production that barely qualified for "tablet pc" is the Note series. Barely since the software is at best WinXP quality in the critical areas like Handwriting, often not even that

As soon as I get to non-mobile devices the small benefit an ARM may have in power consumption is lost and the Atoms, even the aging CTrails, win hands down.

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mmeier

Re: nothing to see here

Not spoken - done. Had a "dwarf penguin" around since I had no spare Win7 licence for the HP/Compaq E-Series box I got on eBay. When the Win8 offer came I dug out a spare XP licence from a long dead notebook and killed the penguin.

And the "last penguin" is just hoovering on the brim of the tran cooker until a WP8 smartphone with keyboard or stylus comes out - than the Note becomes lamp oil (well ends up at eBay like the bigger brother did)

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mmeier

Re: Windows got the BLUES

Ever used Win8 for a few days? Tried to learn it? Or just listening to "experts" from the Gnuliverse and self-declared "usability experts"?

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mmeier

Re: As odd as it sounds

Actually they never merged the code bases. The Dos-Externder line ends with Windows ME and was a seperat beast till the end. The only thing that survived (and was thankfully killed in W8) is the looks from the Win95 UI. And even there it is looks not code base. The two where very different under the hood.

The current W8 UI/UX takes some time getting used to but after that - it just works. On EVERY device from a 10'' touchy-toy tablet through penable tablet pc to high powered multi-monitor desktops. It may not be perfect on either of them but you get 90+ percent of what a specialist OS can do on any of them - and just ONE OS, one concept. No more "Telefon is a iThingy so do it that way, Tablet is a Fragmentdroid so this way, Main unit is a Window7 do it another way". Just one way.

Win8 needs some fine tuning, ironically more in the tablet-pc functions like the entry field behaviour (many preferred the Win7 style of auto-show / free positioning drag out to the new "icon in taskbar" style) but OOB it is already better than Win7 on the same hardware both mobile (better power management, faster sleep/wake, better Handwriting/Speech engines - and Win7 was good!) and desktop (better useability for WLAN only desktops, faster boot, better multi-monitor support)

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mmeier

Re: Not what I wanted to see.

Actually tried to use Win8 for a few days it or just parroting what the PFY "IT expert" from your cousin 2nd degrees hairdresses told her? There may be some use cases where Modern does not work but they are rare.

On my dual monitor desktop the "72 most used desktop programs" are always just one WIN-Key press away AND there is still space for News, Weather and a Messenger. Don't even have to take my hands of the keyboard to start them. No more "unmask desktop" or "guess wether this is the start icon or a running instance in the taskbar" games. (You can still play them if you like), taskbar stretching over the monitors ...

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mmeier

Re: 3rd Party Start Menus are no longer an option.

Really? GREAT! Finally, well done MS!

Okay I admit I LOVE the death of AERO and the start menu.

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mmeier

Oh I did. And unlike others I am even able to distinguish between Modern and Desktop programs. Blue will be able to run two Modern "Apps" in a 50/50 split. And as many Desktop Applikations as you want/your memory allows. So using a toy breed tablet like the Acer W510 I would be able to fingerprint two Modern apps instead of one. Using a tablet pc - I just use Modern as a start menu and run desktop programs with a stylus and no fingerprints

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mmeier

How many programs can a ARM toy tablet run at the same time? One or One?

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mmeier

Re: nothing to see here

"Blue" is the codename for the service pack style release concept. So this IS likely a Service Pack.

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mmeier

Well, that is at least ONE more than on the iThingy or Fragmentdroid systems.

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Maybe don't install that groovy pirated Android keyboard

mmeier

Re: it is not secure, it is way more secure than MS Windows though

Sure I know their permissions. Same as the permissions of the user executing them. Just like it is on Unix

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mmeier

How could THAT happen - We have been told Android is secure!

After all Android is Linux and Linux is secure! At least that is the FOSStard mantra. So how could it be that there is an evil greek in the wooden horse I just dragged through my gates?

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Windows Phone 8 support to end in 2014

mmeier

Re: Great move Elop

And required a relatively complex setup to test them compared to Android or Windows Mobile/Windows Phone. Not to mention that Phython is not the most common of languages. Android is a Java Derivate and Windows Mobile used whatever .NET you liked in the last years (never did WP7/8 - no stylus no buy!)

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mmeier

Re: So what will happen to...

Samsung Note - Phone without fingerprint. Actually before the iThingy smartphones all worked that way and well

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mmeier

Re: Great move Elop

The Maemo/Meego phones and mini-tablets (N770 was a tablet only IIRC) where nice hardware and a software that had some features Android is lacking (like an X-Server). Would be nice if Nokia could bring out an upgraded (induktiv-capacitvie dual mode instead of resistive digitizer) version of the hardware no matter what OS. Basically sturdy lil beasts (Actually a bit larger than a Note 2 IIRC)

The rest of the system was so-so and Nokia never delivered a tool chain that was as easy to use as the one for Android or Windows Phone (And the last two or so years of Windows Mobile). That and their lack / unwillingness to licence/enable some features (like the CPUs JAVA support) of the hardware (even pre-Elop) killed at least parts of the software market. Sadly so since the lil beast could have run the same JAVA software as a desktop.

Lack of advertisement and the units not/rarely showing up in the big outlet chains made them an even less known product. Again this started with the N770 unit well before Elop. Than a few hardware problems (WSOD anyone) and unlucky upgrade policy for the OS and the unit was dead even before the N900 came out.

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Microsoft starts to roll out Windows 8 in embedded flavors

mmeier

Re: there's a limit on how smart you need a coffee machine to be

Embedded systems and their extension the "smart home" are actually quite interesting. Telling your heating system "will be home x min late/early" safes quite a bit and beats the alternatives "ice chest" (cheap) and "sauna" (warm but costly). A webcam in the kitchen is also handy to find out when the pizza is ready, garden lights coupled to the door(s) beat the stupid IR based "motion detectors" and so on. Won't want to live without it and using Windows is prefered (CE currently)

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mmeier

Re: thin clients anyone?

Since Modern-UI runs on Win/RT that runs on low grade stuff like ARM I do not see a problem. If that is not enough - use an Atom CPU. Embedded != Mobile, the MC680x0 series CPU can still be found in many embedded controllers (IIRC including Siemens Washing maschines)

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Microsoft Surface Pro sales CANNIBALIZING Surface RT

mmeier

Re: Re:Microsoft has deliberately balanced the Surface's availability

Add in that their current offerings are not that good either. Lots of slick plastik, endless problems with the dock, crappy software like SNote and a very low end pen. For the price I have to pay for an Ativ/500 I can get a similar equiped Latitude10 or TPT2 that is useable without a sleeve (rubberized back), sturdier and not loaded with useless/unneeded crapware. Not selling the 3G version without a dock (It's in the lists but not available) makes the alternatives even more interesting - I do not pay 100€ for a BT keyboard on an ego trip.

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mmeier

Re: $urface

And? Are engineers forbidden to evaluate hardware that also sells to Joe Average? If it fits the needs and is "best for the money" I do not care for the advertisement or "target audience" - I buy the thing. Depending on the lot size and service contracts needed from the shop next door, the larger distributer or the manufacturer directly. Where is the problem?

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mmeier

Re: I actually bought a Surface RT with my own money and it's quite good

If you like the RT take a look at the Atom based tablet pc. Similar weight, good endurance (6-11h depeding on model and use) and a lot of units out so the price spectrum is covered from Acers "touch only" at 450€ all the way to TPT2 and Dell Latitude 10 with all the bells/whistles at 800€ and a lot in between

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mmeier

Try running an Applet on an Android box - it will not. Why? Because Dalvik does not have support for Swing or AWT.

Try running a Java Application with a UI that runs, WITHOUT ANY CHANGES, on MacOS/Windows/Solaris on an Android. It will not run. See above for the reason

Android apps need the UI part done completely new since their UI model is totally different from Swing. Even assuming you are willing to write a "one device size only" application the model still is more complex. Been there, written software for Android.

As for the rest - it is true for real Unix systems and may be true for MacOS (don't use Macs). It is wrong for Linux. Once the load goes up the box goes down. Linux works fine under light loads/for testing but in production you either get more boxes and a good load balancer or a proper operating system. Been there, turned up the load balancer, watched the GNU drown

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mmeier

Re: No reason for RT

Oh soon they will. It's called the MS<<Dell Latitude 10 :) From all the tests one sweet (if costly) piece of kit with user-replaceable (and quick change!) battery and a sturdy metal body.

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mmeier

Re: Server side is important too

Interesting. MS has a time maschine so they could deliver Sharepoint in 2001 based on a software that was first delivered in 2004.

Confluence and JIRA are nice and useful but they are not the same as Sharepoint. The two together can do some of the jobs and that may be enough but they can not do all. I.e Sharepoint can act as a document repository for OneNote. Confluence is a nice Wiki and JIRA is a fine Bug/Worktracker. With Plugins like GreenHopper also a nice Scrum tool. Works fine on Windows and integrates with the SSO there

Rich clients are not as rare as you think. Actually many are written in JAVA using either Swing directly or one of the big RCP platforms (Eclipse, Netbeans). Raw data on a server and access through webservice or RMI. They are used when graphics, add hoc reports and other complex stuff is useful. Easier to develop, just as easy to distribute (JNLP). They are more often found on Intranets where download size does not matter

If I want the FASTEST platform for JAVA - I use SOLARIS! Might have something to do with being the platform used by the Java developers and having a very good thread subsystem (Something that is still a sore point in Linux). Second choice is actually Windows. Runs JAVA just fine and is better behaving under load. Additional benefit of both is long term (10+ years) support for a version and having only one version. Makes selecting/testing admins a lot easier.

From experience app servers are choosen based on "who will access it" with internal units often being Windows (cheapest solution when support contracts are factored in) and external ones often being commercial Unix (Solaris or AIX) due to their ruggedness and long term support. Linux is found in "test units" if at all.

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mmeier

Re: MS can dump Surface at cheaper prices, but if they do, they lose their partners.

Toy tablets: ALL units without an inductive digitizer and ALL units that can not be used to develop software for themself on it. So the iOS, Android and quite a few x86 units qualify. Those are nice for media consumption but nothing more. The equivalent to a toy poodle. Cute but a hunter will always prefer a standard or grande (Both are excellent retrievers)

As for the rest of your "claims":

+ Windows runs fine on Atom based units that are quite similar in weight, size and endurance to ARM based systems

+ If your AV program sucks resources - you are using a bad one. If you use a 3rd party one under Win8 - you waste money

+ Modern works and from the looks it's no better/worse than what Samsung delivers

+ You obviously never used an inductive stylus. It allows things you can not do on a capacitive digitizer.

* Note taking one handed, standing like a legal pad (and in case of Windows later running HWR on it - Android is either HWR from start or none)

* NOT having to do the "smear to enlarge, smear to select, smear to shrink" moves when reading most forums

* Drawing like a proper drawing board with pressure sensitive pens

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mmeier

Re: $urface

Engineers do not buy based onadvertisement. They buy based on needs and capabilities. If in doubt they evaluate and test and /or check reputable sources.

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mmeier

Re: The truth? You can't handle the truth.

Strange - Apache and JBOSS run just fine on Windows Servers. Actually with better performance under load than they do with Linux. Granted, Solaris is even better. And mobile devices do not care what OS delivers the web page.

Java Applications and Applets actually run better under Windows (and MacOS) than under iOS or Android. Actually - they do not run under the latter two AT ALL. Add in some other benefits and for companies the Windows / MacOS route is actually the smarter choice for mobile devices. Local printing is just one element - try that with iOS/Android. With Windows - just buy a mobile printer. Same for scanning solutions and so on.

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mmeier

Re: Server side is important too

"Serious professional" and "iThingy / Android" is like "good tank and M48A2"

Server side programs have been using stuff like Java or the Privat Homepage Project for at least a decade now. Clients are a mostly a mix of Webpages and some "Rich" Java clients coming in through JNLP or Applets. But the latter are actually an argument against Android and iOS on tablets - they do not run there. MacOS and Windows share one code base but iOS has no Java and Androids UI programming is totally different. Web is nice but for some jobs having a classic app with (limited or full) local data is better.

Sharepoint is alive and well for intranet applications (and VPN based remote access). And there it is a great tool. Unlike Exchange/Outlook it has no alternative yet. Domino 9 goes there and 10 will likely deliver but they are not cheap.

Intranet only applications (and there are a lot!) will use whatever works. Most users do not care about OS or software, just about the end results (and the price of the software). If OSS can deliver - fine. If not - also fine. AS/400, Windows, Unix - yeah, whatever.

Some rich cities can fake the numbers and employ more than twice the IT staff and run to systems in parallel to claim "using Linux" but most are smart enough to test, realise the overhead costs, calculate the next 10-20 years and keep using whatever they use now. Software is a tool, not the target.

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mmeier

Re: MS can dump Surface at cheaper prices, but if they do, they lose their partners.

Pinguin OS on a slate is simply useless on x86. No proper pen support, no proper tool chain, no nothing. So if one uses mobile devices and desktops one either uses two different UIs and sets of programs with lot of restrictions on the penable - or Windows. That simply runs on a wide set of hardware. Choose size, CPU, pen system - whatever you want there is a Win7 / Win8 compatible unit. From 10'' Latitude to 13'' T902, from simple notepad to full powered mobile workstation.

The single useable "tablet pc" under Android (Note series) has software that is unstable (SNote) and HWR that is barely WinXP level. Tried it, sold it. Even Win7 on a Q550 was beating the poor lil beastie in the "notepad replacement" job - and that is a single core Atom!

Linux may work on toy tablets but for those I would buy iOS units with better upgrade chances. For penables the choice is Windows. Or maybe Windows.

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mmeier

Re: Lower the price

What problem? Tethering in Win8 runs the same as in Win7. Select network, enter passphrase and go

Can not say how tethering in RT works, never used that nor do I plan to. RT is just another castrate toy-tablet OS like iOS or Android - useless for me.

As for the rest - try using a penable for a week or two and you will understand the differences. No need to use a keyboard when you have it in the arm/lap - pen replaces that. Keyboards only come out (if at all) when you have a useful surface. Been using penables (convertibles and slates) since 2003 that way.

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mmeier

Re: Re:Microsoft has deliberately balanced the Surface's availability

And if you actually READ the article you will see that it talks about Phone and RT. Not about Win 8. The two brand new penables don't feature.

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mmeier

Re: Just be honest and ask yourself Surface or shite pad?

What is the problem with the Pro? Aside from half the hardware not working properly due to driver problems under Linux? It is a Win8 certified box so you can wipe it, disable UEFI and install whatever you want. And there are quite a few similar x86 tablets out that can do the same

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mmeier

Re: Lower the price

Won't work with the Pro. Win8 tablet pc are exactly that Win8 PC! They run every Windows software just fine, the pen is a great mouse replacement so they work. Don't think of Surface/Pro and the other x86 penables as "iThingy inspired toy-breed" but rather as "netbook/notebook/ultrabook with extra capabilities".

Apps will be a "nice toy" for this but people won't pay 10€ for the Modern equivalent to "Photoshop Touch" for Android - if they want to do some image manipulation they simply install GIMP. They won't pay for Polaris Office - they install OO. And so on.

The "touch only" toys like the Acer-Units, the Yoga etc. might be the ones that make more use of Modern Apps. But my guess is they'll follow Win/RT to an early grave once people realize that for not much more money up front they get a LOT of added functionality and lower software costs.

And that's just the privat sector. Companies will make use of their licences for Windows-Software anyway.

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mmeier

Re: Targeting the richer folks

Actually compared to similar-equiped notebooks/netbooks/ultrabooks the current generation penables are not that costly. Sure if you compare a 300€ "bashed together by chinese pupils" notebook with a Ativ700 or Duo11 they look pricey. But the equivalents are Series-7 notebooks or Vaio Ultrabooks.

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Samsung's new co-CEO: 'Windows isn't selling very well'

mmeier

Re: mainly "big screen+heavy skinning"

When it comes to tables - scratch the replaceable battery. None in the N80x0, none in the Ativ 500 (must check Ativ 700 but IIRC none there either)

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mmeier

Re: Curiously both Tizen and Android both use the Linux kernel

Windows is POSIX compliant since IIRC NT4

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mmeier

Re: Why Care About The OS?

Many people still do. That's why I amcurrently using an Android based N7000 instead of an iPhone (regular updates) or a WP system (one Ul for all) Only Smartphone with a stylus and that is my basic need

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mmeier

Re: More dire news for Microsoft

The reason Win8 comes on slowly is partially that the next big changeover is currently being planned and tested. XP will be phased out over the next 12 month and quite a few of our customers [Think 500-15000 workstation] are currently in the early planning / testing with both w7 and w8

As for the "perception" this will quickly change wenn Joe Average gets his first W8 Pc/Notebook and realises what ballshit some "journalists" and "experts" have been sprouting. "Quality" journalism these days results in comments like "The Helix is heavier than the ipad2" as the only commenton it

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mmeier

Re: More dire news for Microsoft

Unlike other groups the Windows fans read the article and shake the head about the quality of journalism. The headline says Windows and the article says Win/RT and Windows Phone. Not a single negative word about Windows 8 or the two Win8 tablet pc in there.

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