Re: Oh, meant to say - the Reg site is really slow on mobile
The thing that annoys me about El Reg comments pages, much as I love the content, is the Web 1.54382 design of voting…
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The thing that annoys me about El Reg comments pages, much as I love the content, is the Web 1.54382 design of voting…
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There seems to be a bug in El Reg's unit conversion page : It clocks the brontosausus at 138 m instead of the more reasonnable 22 m.
Thanks for pointing this out! It looks like this specific unit conversion has been wrong for quite a long time.
I've just now updated it to have a more meaningful value, i.e. exactly 157 linguine.
Hopefully El Reg will keep it 90s by still using the default HTML 4.0 table style...
I don't get it, sorry – HTML tables are still valid in HTML5, and are/should be used when presenting tabular data.
Granted, the table in that article looks like crap and it uses attributes which shouldn't really be used in HTML5 – but that's the default rendering of a table in a browser, mind you…
IMVHO, using tables for tabular data like in that article is totally fine, but using it to lay stuff out is not. What are your thoughts?
A better goal would be to deploy it and not have people notice. It should just work.
Precisely why I wrote he will notice. Not "everybody" ;)
El Reg still only seems to be IPv4
If you're that sharp-eyed, I'm sure you'll have noticed that the images domain, regmedia.co.uk, is available over IPv6 ;)
IPv6 will be coming to ElReg in the not-too-distant future (read: soon®)… likely as soon as I get a new, "shiny round tuit" to do the deployment of it as painlessly as possible. We've had a Git branch for it since ~2015 or so… but it's not ready yet. When it is, you'll notice.
Who messed with the CSS. The font sizes seem to be too big especially on comments.
The font size for article and comments body was quite a bit too small, and it's been set to ~16px, which is a good legible size for them.
On frequent occasions I'm missing images all over the website and I've now got a 5 second block when trying to load anything. What gives?!
Could you please email at webmaster@ with the contents of https://www.theregister.co.uk/cdn-cgi/trace please? Unless you're connecting from a bad reputation IP, that shouldn't happen.
Might it be you're connecting via tor? In that case, you might want to load at least once https://regmedia.co.uk/ so that Cloudflare can check your browser, and set a cookie which will allow your browser to load everything fine. Of course, if you then go and delete your cookies every time you close the browser, you might have to go through this again…
Also searching the app store I couldn't obviously find the app - has it been discontinued in favour of the mobile site?
The apps should've shown a "sticky article" for a couple weeks, saying that the API was getting discontinued at the end of January. All of them have been pulled from the respective app store, and the API has now been discontinued.
Use the mobile site instead.
the increase has caused (on my system at least) Bootnotes to wrap onto a second line
Hi, sorry to hear you're experiencing this issue. Would you be able to share a bit more details about your browser and system, as we can't reproduce the issue with the ones we most commonly use?
get in touch at webmaster@, thanks!
The mobile site doesn't have a way to get to the article comments.
It does! There's a bubble like link indicating number of comments which, when clicked, brings you to the forum.
It either says "N comments" or "Post a comment".
You can go on your account page, and click the big "Delete Account" button, or go to https://account.theregister.co.uk/delete/
You'll need to be logged in and provide your password to do that, of course.
Looks like Cloudflare, our CDN, made a boo-boo at that time :|
Sorry for the trouble, it looks a SNAFU happened somewhere :|
The apps should've been displaying a message in the app in the last few _weeks_of January, mentioning that the API (and the apps with it) would cease to work at the end of January. Here is the message:
Apps users, a short note to announce that The Register is shutting down all apps with effect from January 31. We appreciate your eyeballs and owe you an explanation.
Our iOS app is serviceable but our Windows and Android apps are not fit for purpose - and have not been for a long time. it is not a good use of our money to rectify this.
Traffic via apps is low - a typical experience for news publishers - and effectively impossible to monetise unless we charge for downloads.
That’s not happening.
We have a small dev team and we need to focus resources. That means we are not futzing around, for instance to ensure that our apps are https compliant. The team’s next big project is to make The Register fully responsive.
In the meantime recommend that you read us on the mobile web at https://m.theregister.co.uk/.
As it's now February, it has indeed ceased to work.
AFAICT all the apps have since also been pulled from the respective app stores. You will likely want to uninstall the app from your mobile phone, as it's not going to work anymore.
You'll likely want to continue to read The Register on our mobile site; see above for the link.
I suggest you go to https://www.theregister.co.uk/ and click on the "mobile website" button at the bottom, as that'll ensure that any The Register URLs you open will then always be displayed on the mobile site - without having to manually switch between "www" and "m".
Apologies for the inconvenience caused,
The Webmaster ;)
... why should anybody be publishing malformed HTML? Haven't they heard of HTMLtidy?
Yes, but most distributions carry a very old version which croaks horribly with the most common things naïve writers throw at it: "broken html" input (AKA "tagsoup"), and HTML5 tags :|
Getting from "shitty tagsoup" to "well-formed HTML" is harder than it looks at first ;)
When will you embiggen the font?Possibly Soon®
Font size has been embiggened on both article body and forums posts.
When will you embiggen the font?
Meanwhile, you can always zoom in (CTRL+ or CMD+); most browsers will remember and use the zoom preference per-domain.
The site uses relative sizes for all its parts aside from the base font size, so zooming in/out literally makes everything bigger or smaller, with the same ratio.
Go to the bottom of the page; you'll see a big "Mobile website" button. Click that, and you'll then "stick" to the mobile site (for all pages for which there _is_ a mobile site version of).
So now a website which doesn't use HTTPS gets labeled insecure by default?
Only if it contains something that looks like a log-in or sign-up form, for now
… as a man-in-the-middle would easily be able to change where the insecure form goes to, and you'd be none the wiser you'd be sending your personal details or log-in details to Mallory
Just recently, forums link on articles link to the https version of forums, so quite a few more users are getting the https version, and all seems smooth so far.
Also, the linked-to version for AMP pages and the "mobile size" pages is the https version.
In time, we'll be switching a few more links to https, but so far… smooth sailing ;)
Thanks for the help so far!
Right now, all forums related should be fully usable over https: things done on forums (post, create topic, edit post) redirect to the https version, all RHS links are to the https version (but not yet articles' forum link, or the overall forums list).
That comments link at the bottom of links is hardcoded to http.
Yup, that will get changed to be hardcoded to https ~next week, about the same time we'll make pretty much everything forums-related be https (other than the apps API).
Indeed, the redirect done after post / preview / edit currently goes to http (as it's currently a hard-wired prefix).
Soon (Monday) those kinds of redirect will instead be modified to go to https for everybody.
So… you'll be on http posting your comment, and *bam* you'll be on https – trying to enliven this stuff by causing minimal disruption, but so far things seem smooth as far as I can tell ;)
With only the hiccup that I got the rude message telling me I was sending data on an insecure connection and was then back on the normal http page. Which I assume is expected behaviour?
Correct, was expected behaviour then. Right now, if you load forums over https, all links, forms, and the whole "journey" should be https only :)
We're not yet redirecting, though!
Last year, Santa brought a TLS version of The Register (and its sub-domains).
It's been a long time coming, but as we're a small team it's taken a wee bit longer than expected. It's coming, though! Put down those pitchforks, please :)
A "top level" overview of what we'll be doing: we'll gradually start linking more things to the https version of the website, then set https as the "canonical" version, then start redirecting http to https, and eventually pretty much everything will be "https only".
Right now we aren't linking to the https version much, and most non-relative links… link to the http version. That's fine for the moment, as it allows us to test and interact with the https version without breaking much of the functionality for the http version.
I'm posting this as many people have posted about wanting to help with bringing TLS to The Register. If you're one of them, here's your chance to help!
How can you help? Type
https:// before any of our sub-domains and see if there's anything that breaks particularly hard for you. Report any issue back via email to
webmaster@ if you can (be arsed to).
Look forward to the day we'll be https only, thanks in no small part to you!
but I've no idea what you folks use for end to end ...
There's some info at http://www.theregister.co.uk/about/company/website/ which has been recently updated
a CDN push failure of some sort
Nope, good 'ole fashioned PEBKAC on our part...
Maybe a link to webmaster would be in order somewhere at the bottom
There's a very roundabout one: the "send us news tips" links to how to contact The Register for various things: news tips, ads issues, website issues, etc.
Someone sure did! ;)
Sorry I didn't catch this earlier, we got an email to webmaster@ about this exactly one hour ago, and it got fixed in ~40 mins.
I don't roam the forums that often, but emails to webmaster@ are read as they come in…
If possible, always use webmaster@ to alert us of this kind of stuff, as there are higher chances we read, fix stuff, and (usually) reply!
The El Reg commenting platform is now hopelessly broken on Chrome on Android
Would you be able to share more details about this? e-mail webmaster@ please and we'll see how we can help!
Yup, we've had a bit of an issue with the new version of the mailing lists, which ended up taking a good wee bit longer getting sent than anticipated.
They will be sent again, this time… timely, starting Monday (ɐᴉlɐɹʇsn∀ ɹoɟ ʎɐpunS ɹo).
Remap caps lock to Ctrl, then use Ctrl+[ to escape. That's what I already do today. You need both hands, sure, but it's not as hard on the hands, at least for me.
I sometimes also use Ctrl+C to exit insert mode, also fine.
The huge dealbreaker for me seems to be the lack of function keys... but I guess I could remap what I have currently mapped to function keys to a leader combination instead. Feels klunky, though!
Going to https://m.theregister.co.uk/ quietly redirects me to the non SSL version.
Yup, as it should - as it's not available (yet) over https. Never claimed it was. A critical part of the mobile pages now loads over https, though - not the pages themselves.
Please point me to where is it free to get a wildcard certificate accepted by all browsers </snark>
To actually answer you, we're working on it… but it's not as easy as pushing a button :)
We're currently in the process of "conservatively slowly" migrating one critical piece of our infrastructure to https for all users, and we're doing it for ~1‰ of our user base every ~10 minutes (mobile sites are already using the https version since ~Friday afternoon).
We're _very_ conservative when it comes to doing big changes like this (i.e. TLS, IPv6, etc). Our users deserve things done right (even if quite a bit late) rather than hastily done and full of creepy crawlers!
Shame they don't offer wildcards certificates, yet.
I look forward to that day!
It's on the top left hand side now!
We've got plans (and a Git branch) to make it all work on IPv6. We will enable it, but cannot yet.
Right now when posting via an IPv6 address some stuff breaks on our forums, which causes "issues", and I have to manually move the failed posts to /dev/null. No aether involved.
Don't piss off the sysadmins.
> Silver Badge came though overnight.
Yup, gets run daily in the morning. so if one day you have the prerequisites, the next you'll be granted them!
The "House rules" link explains the house rules, and the badges; see http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/01/register_comments_guidelines/
Yarr harr! Yup, it does! it's called "evil" mode!
https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs/ and use "evil mode". That's as close to "a good vi" in Emacs as you can get, with quite a bit of additional "goodies".
We're working on it, but it isn't high in the priority list as you can surmise.
Unfortunately it isn't a click and restart, else we'd have done it already, like TLS support and all sorts of stuff that are much harder to do than it appears at a first glance.
I also have IPv6 and TLS with HSTS on a bunch of personal domains, but that's a hell of a lot simpler to do when the scope is smaller and the downsides of getting it wrong are way lower than "whoopsie, I guess I just killed your business because we didn't $foo because $bar".
Specifically with regards to IPv6, current (slowly moving) plans are to finally push live the required backend changes, then enable what we can via Cloudflare - as that gets us ~80% of the way there for all intents and purposes, with a small-ish set of changes we've been testing for a while now.
➤ curl -v -q -o /dev/null http://www.theregister.co.uk/ 2>&1 | grep Clacks
< X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett, Lester Haines
For a couple days, I got a screen asking me to answer a "captcha" to prove I wasn't a bot every couple of hours.
Not sure what the point was. ElReg ain't talking.
I have no problems talking to you, but…
No, I am NOT a bot.
What the fuck? Are there really that many acne splatters out there?
…doesn't look like a conversation.
In fact, until you pointed out the problem in the later comment, I admit I didn't have the foggiest clue about what you were ranting about.
as the page about the website points out, any time you've got a problem with the website, please mail webmaster@ with details in case you have issues.
As you were subjected to a captcha multiple times, I think at least something about your browser, UA string, and your IP should help us find out what happened.
The "crude deletion" angle is odd. There are often articles without comments... and they don't have the button... so why leave it there?
If the article went live with comments disabled everything would've worked as you expected. Instead, they were mistakenly enabled at publish time.
An odd bug of the commenting system, coupled with the fact that it doesn't happen often that comments need to be disabled and purged after an article has been made live... means the article's stuck in that situation: the forum is 410 GONE as it should, but the button still links there and some comments may be able to be found via search or other means.
1) It's Flash.
On my browser I have flash disabled and I can see the video at http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/17/dick_smith_stores_close_forever/ just fine.
From a cursory Google search, it looks like quite a bit of the passwords to those premium accounts were "simple" enough to brute force/try out, like "iloveyou"…
This thread doesn't appear to be visible in the El Reg Matters section itself
This is kind of an "unintended feature", in that if the original thread has been posted by a moderated user, the whole thread is then "moderated", and won't appear in the main index.
Suffice to say, it hasn't happened many times…
Is there a reason for that?
If I were to wager 2 pence, he's used the Splaffer to withdraw all his other posts.
Using an Italian keyboard, Windows slashes are much more comfortable because they don't need to press Shift.
I was a very, very happy young Italian developer when I finally managed to get my hands on a PS2 US keyboard in Italy… and with the US-International layout, I could even type the accents which _should've_ been in the Italian keyboard, but haven't ever been there. How else is one supposed to start a sentence with "È" with? An Office suite?
They appear to have broken the mobile site too, I use that almost exclusively and it's not updated all day
On the mobile site, the first three headlines after the "top stories" (the five headlines with pictures) are the news bytes. Then come the other stories.
as they mess up the front page layout
Oh dear, I did test them on all browsers I could get my hands on, but I might've missed something!
Would you mind firing off an email to webmaster@ with your browser string (or the contents of http://www.theregister.co.uk/cdn-cgi/trace) and a screenshot which shows the problem you're seeing?
I've "recently" (weeks, not days) modified Cloudflare's settings and made requests coming from Tor only require browser client-side "proof of work" in order to be validated, instead of making their system sometimes force a captcha on requests.
I've not seen any more comments on the forums to the tune of "fsck cloudflair captchas" since, but wondered if you, the actual _users_, noticed any difference… or just didn't care :)
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