* Posts by Tannin

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Oz attorney-general a step closer to SCNA*

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George Brandis ... in charge of networking. This is hilarious! We are not talking about the same George Brandis who doesn't even know what metadata is, are we? We are? OMG! This is like putting Stevie Wonder in charge of picking the wallpaper. Or ... er ... like putting Donald Trump in charge of running a country. Or like ... oh never mind. I want a drink.

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Photobucket says photo-f**k-it, starts off-site image shakedown

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Re: $400

Actually. $400 a year doesn't buy you a virtual host, it buys you about 10 of them. Cheap hosting on a shared server provides way more than you were getting on Photobucket, and it costs about one-tenth of the insane price they are asking.

$400 PA on a virtul hosting is quite expensive, but may be worth it depending on how much you care about 24/7 * 365 reliability and a help desk that speaks a language known to most people in your country.

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Blunder down under: self-driving Aussie cars still being thwarted by kangaroos

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Re: Obvious solution

The real problem with hitting a roo isn't the damage the impact does to your car - though that can be substantial - it's what else you hit afterwards. People take wild evasive action and hit something, such as a tree or another car. The impact of a roo is substantial. It can do a lot of damage, including damage that in some cases makes it difficult or impossible to control the car well enough to bring it to a safe stop.

I regularly drive through a particular section of road arund dusk. This is the worst possible time for roo stikes. I don't worry too much about hitting a roo myself - I slow down to 80k or less and keep a very sharp lookout - I worry about the moron coming the other way at 120 who suddenly sees a roo (or just feels the impact on an unseen one) and unexpectedly arrives on my side of the road, out of control. It hasn't happened yet 'coz I'm here to talk about it, but honestly, some people have got no bloody idea.

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Lordy! Trump admits there are no tapes of his chats with Comey

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Re: Still don't understand this bullshit

"(**) "Patronise" means talking down to someone."

You'll need to put that in simpler words.

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Samsung releases 49-inch desktop monitor with 32:9 aspect ratio

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Re: @Dan

Just to add some (useless) extra detail (becuse I'm a useless extra detail kind of guy), CRT measurement is not actually from outside edge to outside edge, it is of the picture tube. The edge of the picture tube is somewhere between the edge of the visible picture and the inside of the outer case. Measuring outside edge to outside edge, you should get roughly one inch (varies with model) more than the claimed measurement by a notional honest manufacturer. With LCD, ther is no picture tube, so you just measure the picture.

(Just in case you are interested, note that it is probably easier to find a working 37 inch CRT monitor than it is to find an honest manufacturer.)

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Foxconn, Amazon, Apple join Toshiba chip plant feeding frenzy

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Why is it ailing? Because Toshiba blew all the billions it had and as many other billions as it could borrow on expanding its loss-making nuclear powerplant construction business at a time when the industry prospects were lousy and getting worse.

Now they are auctioning off the furniture.

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Boffins find evidence of strange uranium-producing bacteria lurking underground

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Re: The usual baloney

"Thinking in terms of elements, Protons and Neutrons is 19th Century Science"

And you, Sir, need to read up on when the 19th Century happened.

(Hint: it was long over when Rutherford first discovered the proyon in 1917. And 35 years gone when Chadwick discovered the neutron.)

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'My PC needs to lose weight' says user with FAT filesystem

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Re: Windows 98

"This comment makes me feel so old. A 10-year old kid using Windows 98 at school. I'd already been in industry for over a decade before Windows 98 became a thing. When I was at school it was all BBC Model Bs"

When I was at school, you had to demonstrate a certain level of proficiency before you were allowed to have upgraded hardware.

Because my handwriting was poor, it was quite a while before I was allowed to upgrade from a fountain pen to a ballpoint.

(True story.)

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Toshiba asset-swap shock: Western Digital is not impressed

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Re: The question is

By playing in the wrong industry. The astonishingly large losses stem from Toshiba's participation in the nuclear energy industry, which has a cost structure starkly unbelievable to most people, and has been crushed three times over: first by the various nuclear safety scares in recent decades, especially Fukushima: second by constantly escalating construction costs and associated delays; and third by the rapidly dropping cost of competing technologies, first wind, then solar, and now storage. Not to mention very low gas prices in the USA since the fracking revolution.

The result is that there is very little construction activity at present. Making matters worse for Toshiba, they expanded their stake in the industry at the wrong time, buying up competitors when they should have been selling out while their operation was still worth something. Making matters worse still, they paid way over top dollar for a nuclear plant construction company in the States which turned out to be very badly run, to be facing huge contractual difficulties and cost overruns, and to be near enough to bankrupt as makes no difference.

Asleep at the wheel? Too right they were. Asleep and dreaming chemically assisted technicolour dreams. Right royally shafted? Yep. Exactly that. And now they owe a truly massive amount of money, borrowed to buy a worthless, unsaleable asset in a dying industry that loses money hand over fist and will never show a profit, and the only way to pay off the loan is to sell the electronics operations - i.e., stop doing the thing that they are actually good at.

Damn shame. Toshiba's electronic stuff was great.

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Intel gives the world a Core i9 desktop CPU to play with

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Re: Ahh, I love the smell of competition.

Well, not entirely. AMD have had several brief tilts at superiority, just as you say, but before and after they had one very long period of clear superiority on almost every metric. This was back when clck speeds were moving through (roughly) the 800MHz to 3000MHz range. Intel's Pentium III was reasonably competitive but way too dear; the Pentium IV was hopelessly outclassed for its entire market life, and as for Intel's wrong-headed fetish for the disaster called Rambus, the less said the better.

Intel's then-new Core chips leveled the playing field, and the Athlon replacements were pretty sad efforts. As you were.

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Lexmark patent racket busted by Supremes

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Re: Rendering the consumer

^ All good points. To be fair to the printer makers, we should also rember that they spend a vast amount on R&D each year (well, Epson and Canon do, I assume that others are similar) and most of that research money doesn't go on printers, it goes on ink. It's not just coloured water.

On a different point, I recently threw away two perfectly functional, reliable, good quality laser printers. Not as fast as modern ones, but plenty fast enough for ordinary office use; built like tanks; and (unlike some really old iron) not so huge and heavy as to be an annoyance. Excellent units, in short. (One was a Kyocera, the other a Fuji-Xerox.) I just couldn't bring myself to buy a replacement cartridge for more than double the price of a whole replacement printer. They are probably landfill somewhere now. What a waste.

The new printer is faster, of course. Other than that it is inferior in most respects. But what else can you sensibly do?

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Re: Lexmark loses twice?

Lexmark loses three times, actually. The third one is that this publicity reinforces what every techie worth his salt already knows, which is that when it comes to buying printers you make a list of all the brands, and the second thing you do is pick one off that lisrt.

Er ... did I mention the [i]first[/i] thing you do? Cross off Lexmark, of course. Honesrtly, why would [i]anyone[/i] with a clue buy a Lexmark product? They always used to be carp, but they have really and truly changed now. For the worse.

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What is dead may never die: a new version of OS/2 just arrived

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Re: To quote a popular song ... 'Let it go !!!'

I installed and/or ran OS/2 on many different machines, so far as I can remember not a single one of them an IBM-branded unit. If you could install it, it just worked. Weeks, months and years of uptime - and that in an era when nothing else except 'nix could manage more than a few days at best. Windows didn't start to approach OS/2 stability until 2000 came along. Consumer-grade Windows never did.

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Re: Game on!

Last time I checked - two or three years back maybe - you could still buy a GalCiv bundle of about 5 different versions on-line from Stardock for just a few bucks. Hell, I bought it myself ... installed it .... and never quite got around to playing it.

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No laptop ban on Euro flights to US... yet

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Re: Pertaining to WTF

"I believe he isn't quite as stupid as he seems - not far off though, but a bit more cunning than you think he is."

Yep. So cunning he managed to bankrupt a casino. That's some serious talent.

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Re: Why Israel didn't ban electronic devices on flights to Tel Aviv?

"The US send planeload of their agents to Tel Aviv to watch and learn how the Israelis did it. In the end, they fly back home, write a thick report (another American forte) only for the said report to be thrown into the "too hard" basket."

Sorry. I don't believe it. Since when were the US security people well-trained enough to master complicated technology like pencils?

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nbn™ needs copper to build FTTN: another 15,000 km of it

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"nowhere near as silly as the Sydney Morning Herald's outrage about the nbn™ coffee spend (about $500k a year for an organisation with 5,000 staff – about 27 cents per person per day).

Yeah right. And how much of that coffee ends up with the actual on-ground workers? Rough guess: none. Most of it will be going to the very small number of people warming chairs in offices. So nothing like 27c per day.

(And if it turns out that the number of chair-warmers (as opposed to workers) isn't small, well that's an even bigger scandal.)

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US court decision will destroy the internet, roar Google, Facebook et al

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Re: What about abuse of fair use?

Yes. And it gets more complicated than that because "fair use" is the American rule, where other countries have other rules. here in Oz, for example, we have "fair dealing" which is more restrictive than US "fair use" in some respects, less restrictive in otrhers. So there are lots of different "fair-somethingorother" rules, and even where you have the same rules, they are often interpreted in different ways in different places.

It's a mess.

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MP3 'died' and nobody noticed: Key patents expire on golden oldie tech

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Bahh ... The only way - repeat the only way to get a truly accurate sound for perfect satisfaction is to avoid all electronic pollutions of the aural purity. Simply purchase an instrument of your choice and learn to play it. Most people should be able to achieve a reasonable level of proficiency on almost any instrument in less than 30 years if they practice regularly ... by which time they will be old enough for their ears to have lost full HF sensitivity and thus ruined their ability to appreciate that perfect sound.

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Spend your paper £5 notes NOW: No longer legal tender after today

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Re: £5 note issued in 1957 had a strong purchasing power

"The average weekly wage was £7.50" - Pretty certain my dad didn't earn anything near that.

That's presumably because the previous poster committed a gross misuse of the term "average". An "average" is a measure of central tendency. There are many types of "average", but in most instances only one or two useful or correct ones. Luckily, there are some very simple rules to help people choose an appropriate measure for any given task. In the case of wages (as with all skewed distributions), the first-choice average is the median. Only a statiastical ignoramus would use the arithmentic mean.

(Rare exception: where one is interested in the total wages of all workers, rather than the typical wage of individual workers, the median is inappropriate and the arithmetic mean is the one to use. But in that case, why not just use the total in the first place?)

In short, your dad probably earned something like £4.50, which was probably around about the average wage at that time.

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Amazing

I'm amazed that the UK is only now adopting modern, more durable, currency notes. I suppose you'll be moving on to other exiting new technologies soon, such as the electric light bulb, the flush toilet, and the fountain pen.

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Australia scraps temporary visas for skilled workers

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Re: My Take

Meanwhile, Premier Trumble is still hell-bent on maintaining a massive immigration program.

Like others before him, he talks up 457s and illegals (both very minor contributors to the total number arriving every year) and hope that voters will be too stupid to notice that he is doing nothing whatever to get the overall number under control.

Sadly, this dishonest Howard-era policy has worked at elections many times in the past, and probably will work again.

(Though it might not be enough to save him: 10 disaster Newspolls in a row now, and #11 due any day.)

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Boeing-backed US upstart reckons it'll be building electric airliners

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Ground-based fuel storage is required

"Simple reality is that "renewable" aviation is going to have to run on synthetic paraffin. And that is going to be VERY expensive."

The problem here is that the aircraft has to carry its own energy (e.g., in the form of liquid fuel). If you could figure a way to leave that weight on the ground and only transport the payload itself (together with things required to control and protect that payload, such as seats, structure and control surfaces), you'd be home free.

Luckily, there is a way. Simply launch aircraft with ground-based electric capapults.

Naturally, you'd need some serious acceleration in the launch tube - 10g? 100g? lots anyway - but this need not be harmful to passengers or freight provided you have a suitable mechanism to cushion the launch impact, such as a very large rubber band.

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Re: Just a matter of timing

"An electric plane doesn't need to be as good as a kerosine one. It just needs to find a niche where it is more competitive than anything else."

Good point. All we need to do now is find a place with hardly any gravity.

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Teenagers think Doritos are cooler than Apple

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Re: Generation Z

There won't be any need for Generations AA, AB, and AC because, let's face reality here - Gen Z will be too busy "communicating" and "updating" on their pocket gadgets to ever learn the skills required to get pregnant, such as meeting people and possibly even talking to them.

(Yes, yes, there are apps for that. But why would Generation Z nother using them when they can achieve a functionally equivalent result with just one hand, leaving the other free for fondling the gadget?)

(Err ... some ambiguity there about which gadget is being fondled. Not that there is anything wrong with thet.)

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Re: Who gives a stuff what teenagers think?

Upvote for remembering Setright.

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'Trash-80' escapes the dustbin of history with new TRS-80 emulator

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Re: My recollection and the Internet says: July 1980

It cost a lot more than 3.5k, and that was second-hand. A mate and I went halves in it. (Why? I have no idea. We were both in our late teens, earning adult wages with overtime, no mortgage, no kids, not gamblers or big drinkers, and it seemed like a good idea at the time.)

But after currency conversion and taxes, yep, $US 3.5k would be about right. But no built-in disc drive. That I guarantee. We dreamed about a disc drive.

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Re: My recollection and the Internet says: July 1980

Model II had an expansion port in it's own large box. Model III was all-in-one.

In top-of-the-line form, the Model II allowed a massive 64k of RAM, half of it in that expandion box, which was too big to pick up in one hand. The expansion port wiring and/or connector was horribly unreliable, so the machine would just reset randomly from time to time. When the only way to get a program into the computer was to type it in with two fingers, this was a hardship.

We always had a lot of trouble with cassette storage (possibly, having spent quite a few thousand on the computer and the big 64k expansion, we should have spent a few hundred on a better tape machine!) and never did get one of those very expensive newfangled floppy drive things.

Yes, this was the 1970s. Like Mr Wheat, I am often perfectly well aware of what decade it is. Sometimes I even remember what day it is.

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We're 90 per cent sure the FCC's robocall kill plan won't have the slightest impact

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Overseas spam calls are easy

Overseas spam calls are easy. Simply require all spam calls originating internationally to unveil, and provde their Facebook and Twitter passwords.

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Australia bins safe harbour, presses ahead with Minister-as-NetAdmin plan

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Spooky

Once this would have been spooky.

With Brandis in charge ... yes, that same Brandis who crippled an honest Solicitor General in order to stave off public exposure of his own complicity in the $300 million Bell / WA Liberals scam ... yes, the same Brandis who is too stupid to understand what metadata is (even after being repeatedly briefed by his own experts), let alone why it matters .... yes, that Brandis ... it's beyond spooky and out there into horror movie territory.

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'Clearance sale' shows Apple's iPad is over. It's done

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Re: As I have said a million times

The one thing iPads do still have going for them is that they are one of the very few tablets to have a usefully-shaped screen. Nearly everything else is too shallow to be practical.

Having said that, I looked at the Apple offerings,. liked the screens, looked at the insane prices ... and bought a perfectly functional Android tablet instead (despite the poorer screen). I spent the hundreds of dollars in change, but I could have bought anouther couple of pretty decent tablets with it if I'd a use for more than one.

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In the land of Google, Holocaust denial, death threats – all fine. LGBT? Oh, no, that's sensitive

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Re: They have a point

"Treat your users with basic respect"

Gosh! What a crazy idea. Next thing some loon will come up with something completely wacko like, just for example, "don't be evil".

Hey, I believe it. Only yesterday I was sitting there swapping medication with my buddies Adolf and Napoleon ... well, he says he's Napoleon but I reckon he's really only Bernadotte, or possibly Mahtma Ghandi pretending ... anyway, we were sitting there making a new hat to keep the starlings out and trying out each-other's medications when Adolf stuck a dose of Napoleon's Penfluridol in his ear and said "Let's treat people like Dr Johnson with basic respect" . Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Wurble worble floop.

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Spammy Google Home spouts audio ads without warning – now throw yours in the trash

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Re: Personal Advisor

"Do not believe that a box made of plasic set up in your living room cares about YOU. If you do, you must be stupid, very stupid."

Newsflash: most people in this world are stupid, very stupid. Google knows this, which is why it is rich, very rich.

You know this, of course, because you are not so stupid. Neither am I. But we and others like us - including many readers of this thread - are a tiny minority, condemned to drowing in a vast sea of endless stupid.

What can we do about it? Many things. Join a wacko religion. Switch off the computer and grow tomatoes in the back yard. Drink heavily. Close your eyes and wait to die. Post grumbles on the Register. Get rich by investing in a company with a business model heavily based on assuming that most people are stupid.

None of these strategies will actually do any good, of course, but they help the time go by.

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This week's top token gesture: Google Chrome chokes energy-hungry background tabs

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Of Opera still made browsers, they'd be all over this idea.

Open

Open in new tab

Open in background tab

Open in silent tab

Open in low-CPU tab

User options to set defaults for background tabs, such as (for example) "Open as usual but with moderate CPU priority, after (<reasonable time for page layiut and related tasks>), cut resource use to near-zero until aquires focus". Call that "best of both worlds" tab handling. Naturally, you'd also have a way to open a full-power tab (much the way you can open a private tab in current browsers) for when you want to (for example) stream something.

No bugger invents anything useful anymore.

Damn I miss Opera!

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Re: Mobiles suck

Sometimes I wish that I could save up all my upvotes for a day and deliver them to just one post.

" Nothing they type on the bus or toilet is of interest to anyone."

Says it all.

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'Password rules are bullsh*t!' Stackoverflow Jeff's rage overflows

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Re: I believe...

Well, the obvious answer is that bloggs.com requires a length of 6-10 characters, no dictionary words, no punctuation marks, and at least one number, while jones.com requires 12 or more characters, .mix of upper and lower case, no repeated letters, and at least one non-alpha-numeric character.

But possibly I'm missing the same something here.

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Better security questions needed

Never mind the password problem, how about fixing those security questions. The world needs better securtity questions. For example:

What is your favourite recreational drug?

Why were you bullied at school?

What did your granny die of?

What was your most embarrassing disease?

Describe the flavour of your favourite bodily secretion.

Who did you have your first extra-marital affair with?

Not counting masturbation, what was your most memorable sexual experience?

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Cold callers illegally sold Aussie farmers 1,700 years worth of printer ink

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Re: It's not a new scam

Carbon paper? Remember it well. As matter of fact I still have a little of it. Would you like some? I don't use it much these days so I can easily spare a bit. My brother drives a truck. If you slipped him a slab I reckon he'd deliver it for you.

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Sir Tim Berners-Lee refuses to be King Canute, approves DRM as Web standard

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Re: All the whining in the world...

Narrow-mindled, blinkered thinking will never get you anywhere. Why do we have to give studios money? Ans: we don't. Content creators and distributors can starve. Or get real jobs. Screw 'em.

And what would ge the result? Well, nothing really. There will still be new content created and distributed. If you knew anything about history you'd know that there weren't even copyright laws back when the greatest creative geniuses the world has seen were creating wonderful art. Mozart, Shakespeare, Haydn, and Beethoven, for example: they all created great works anyway. No DRM, not even copyright.

DRM. Just say no.

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Re: DRM means you don't own your content

Nonsense. Of course, you never own the artistic work, but you do own the physical copy of it. Think of a book: you retain complete freedom to do whatever you want with it: you can read it, paper the walls with it, set fire to it, lend it to a friend, draw naughty pictures on it, whatever you like.

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RAF pilot sacked for sending Airbus Voyager into sudden dive

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@Lars

Sorry mate, you've screwed the pooch this time. There were three pilots in the cockpit of that aircraft on that flight. (Plus the two children, who were travelling with their father, one of the three pilots.) Don't take my word for it, look it up, Aeroflot Flight 593.

Sadly, you haven't got the number of pilots normally required in old-time western aircraft right either. Up until about 1970, give or take, it was indeed common to have three crew members in the cockpit as routine, but onlt two of them pilots. The third member was the Flight Engineer, who was usually responsible for (obviously) the engines, but also other tasks, notably fuel management. Advances in technology soon made flight engineers technically superfluous, but airlines in some countries retained them for another decade or so largely because of pressure from their union.

Flight Engineers were not pilots, and were not qualified or trained to fly the aircraft, although of course some engineers did flying training at their own expense in the hope of eventually getting a better-paid and more prestigious job at the pointy end.

On very long flights, it was and still is cvommon to have a third pilot, or more typically a complete second crew, to allow the primary crew to get some sleep.

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Re: Interesting

"Yes, some of us remember the "Russian" Airbus which crashed in Siberia when the pilot let his son sit behind the stick. ..... But in that case, over Siberia, everything went wrong"

As a matter of detail, the fundamental error was simple. As usual with accidents, there were many errors piled one upon another, and several of them howlers, but the overriding mistake which, more than any other, caused the disaster was the crew's failure to assign responsibility for monitoring the flight to any one of the three pilots on board. All three sat around, assuming that one of the other three was in charge. No-one even bothered to glance at the instruments. Being clear about who has control is fundamental to all vehicles and has been for hundreds, possibly thousads of years. this is why sailors quickly evolved simple, practical rituals such that there is never any possible doubt about who has the watch, and why (as soon as multi-crew aircraft came along) pilots did the same.

(Imagine being in a car with dual control. Three of you are travelling at 100km/h. Just as the thing is about to drive off the cliff and it's too late to do anything, you say "Oh, sorry Harry, I thought you were probably driving. Did you think I was?" OK, not an exact parallel, but you get the rough idea.)

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Re: Flying by Joystick

Years ago, a handful of moronic Yanks used to make up ridiculous nonsense about aeroplanes manufactured anywhere other than the US. It used to be rather fun to read their increasingly desperate and always demented rantings. Sometimes, when you could be bothered, you'd point out the laughable flaws in their "evidence" and "logic". But not very often, there wasn't a lot of sport in it. Hey, showing them up as blinkered fools from Fantasyland was about as challenging as peeing without getting more than 50% of it on the floor instead of in the bowl. Sober. With the light on. Sitting down.

Ahhh .... nostalgia.

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Google devs try to create new global namespace

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Re: Spam Me Senseless

"But if you use Gmail for example spam has been a solved problem"

That's the point, isn''t it. Google has invented a service which forces you to use a different Google service whether you want to or not. Gosh! Who'd ever have expected that?

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Two words, Mozilla: SPEED! NOW! Quit fiddling and get serious

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Re: The long term plan

Who is talking about esoteric CTRL-T behaviour? Certainly not me. I just want it to Work As Designed.

Speed of rendering is a non-issue. Any half-sensible page can be rendered by any current or near-current browser in less time than it takes to download the page content on an average domestic connection. Speed in background tabs is even less of an issue. Background tabs are invisible to the user until switched to and (to a first approximation) shuold get zero CPU time. To a second approximation, they should get enough more than that to permit low-priority initial rendering of the page, and (optionally) audio. In short, they should get CPU cycles only when the visible page is idle.

Sure, we can dream up odd-ball circumstances where we want a background tab to do some special-purpose heavy lifting. (For example, some sort of real-time monitoring.) However it is design madness to allow an uncommon, special-purpose task to degrade the primary functionality of any tool. Sensible ways to deal with this sort of challenge include using a different, designed-for-purpose tool in the first place (putting every damn thing through the browser is as dumb as having a different app for every damn thing, only in the opposite direction); using a different browser; using a second copy of the same browser; or providing a way to allow aparticular tasks to be granted greater priority. (Oh, and of course, writing pages that don't make insane demands on the hardware for no good reason. Refer to my earlier comment about Javascript and hanging offences.)

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Re: You await some decision?

OK, it's not something to be proud of, but opposing same-sex marriage isn't actually a hanging offence.

Being the part-inventor of Javascript, on the other hand, certainly is.

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Re: Thunderbird

Steady on there my man, Thunderbird search is fair-dinkum state of the art stuff. One of the best there is.

Er ... This is 1994 isn't it?

Seriously now, TB search isn't just retarded, the UI moves to get to it are equally so.

With the mouse:

(1) select EDIT ->

(2) click ->

(3) scroll down to find FIND ->

(4) change direction and navigate across to the right ->

(5) now change direction again and navigate down to find SEARCH MESSAGES (and no, you can't just move the mouse to the right place, you have to do three seperate movements at right angles to each other) ->

(6) click.

WTF? The only difference between that ergonomic abortion and 1994 is that most programs did it better in 1994.

And the keystroke alternative is an impossible-to-remember three key job. WTF again? The standard keystroke for SEARCH or FIND is ALT-F3. In Thunderbird, F3 isn't used for anything at all. Why not attach it to the search function? Another couple of common keystrokes for search are CTRL-F and CTRL-S. Guess what they do in Thunderbird? Yep. Nothing. Morons.

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Re: The long term plan

It may have to do with what's in those tabs. It varies quite a bit. My guess is that the Moz developers allow Javascript in background tabs to steal to much CPU. Are you running a script blocker by any chance?

Be that as it may, I work on other people's machines on a daily basis and often see it. These other machines can be anything, from a brand new gaming rig with the works right through to ancient iron you practically have to start up with a buggy whip and a bag of oats.

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Re: The long term plan

Try it with a reasonanle number of tabs open. Does it regularly. (And that's on any machine I'm familiar with. This one is an i7 with SSD and 16GB.)

Something as basic as a web browser - I'm not saying browsers are simple, but they are a standard, basic tool, not something to be compared with, say, Photoshop - should certainly work properly with the sort of small machine your Granny uses, say an i3 with 8Gb and a rust drive, and by rights ought to be OK even with 4GB.

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Re: Thunderbird

Mozilla need to stop buggering around with Firefox -- especially as every change they make seems to lose it users - and start buggering around with Thunderbird -- especially as every change they make will lose it users.

Er ... Sorry. Bit of a bad dream there.

Agree with you. But given their unmatched ability to bugger things up for no good reason, I'd just as soon that they didn't "fix" Thunderbird the way they "fixed" Firefox.

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