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China's first domestic single-aisle jet, the C919, scores 300 orders

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Re: Historically

Ignoring the political discussion for a bit but I think you underestimate the complexity of HSR train sets and infrastructure slightly.

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Re: Historically

Air quality is certainly improving. It's still shit though (and Shanghai was at times worst than Beijing).

As to independence for maintenance, that's only possible if you also have domestic supply for the spares. Which they currently still don't have. Domestic production of powerplants is still severely lagging behind RR and GE.

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Re: Historically

He's right though, both cities are objectively shit to live in based on air quality alone

This ancient quasar may be the remains of the first-gen star that started us all

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Re: Seeing back in time

"nothing can travel faster than light" -> Nothing can travel faster than light relative to space. Things get funky if your space-time is warped.

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Re: Seeing back in time

Since the entire universe came into existence at the same time, "here" and "over there" have always been "here" and "over there". The position within the (probably infinite) universe for either position hasn't changed since the big bang. Just the distance between the two points as measured by the time required for a photon traveling near the maximum velocity of a photon in vacuum to get from "over there" to "here"

Because of the expanding universe "over there" has been getting further and further away (or we've been getting further and further away from "over there", or both have been moving away from a point in between depending on reference frame as everything is moving away from everything else at the same time.

US orders safety recall of Tesla Cyberquad-for-kids ATV

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Re: Ah well ..

What kind of traction engine are you running? I doubt most of them if designed for anthracite are going to run too well on wood (though they might if you don't run them very hard. Grate area will probably be a little small for good performance burning wood in a firebox designed for coal)

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Re: Seriously?

Huh, apparently I was wrong, the only requirement to receive a refund is to send them the motor controller*. Indeed in that case it would be a very simple matter to retrofit any of dozens of 3rd party motor controllers

(*See the recall FAQ)

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Re: Rollover protection?

They claim that research in other countries points to the rollbar being a bigger hazard (snagging on trees, or causing injury to the rider because they prevent the rider from coming off the bike. The UK's/Northern Irelands HSENI for instance recommends against ROPS) Australian research seems to point to people coming off the bike being rare and it being nearly impossible for roll-bars to cause injuries greater than would be sustained in the accident if the rollbar wasn't there.). Mostly it seems like it was a heavy handed attempt at coercing AUS into not implementing the rules because they fear they won't sell enough of them after making the chances to recoup cost (because there's too many people being very vocal and buying into the repeating talking points against the devices about how it would impede work or how it would be dangerous)

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Re: Seriously?

I doubt the disabling of the vehicle will involve only the electronics. Good chance they'll require photographic evidence of something far more drastic (like a removed section of frame tube) to prove the disabling. Potentially even proof that it was dismantled and anything metal crushed beyond repair.

Catching a falling rocket with a helicopter more complex than it sounds, says Rocket Lab

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addendum as I was too slow to edit the post:

a C130 is also hellishly expensive to operate. Those 4 (fairly old design) turboprops are rather thirsty. There's few civilian operators of Hercs around (either C-130 or L-100 versions) and most of those are for hauling heavy freight or doing stuff like firebombing.

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Probably not. The Corona program catching returning film capsules from spy sats needed the cargo aircraft (They also used C-119s, C-123s and some other aircraft beside Hercs iirc) with longer loiter times because their target was in a larger area of uncertainty and tracking tech wasn't as advanced. The target was also usually a lot further out to sea. The program for retrieving people/spies from the ground similarly had a fairly large range requirement, plus the added speed was welcome if having to penetrate behind enemy lines. Rocket Lab has a pretty good idea of where their target will be and it's a lot closer to shore. On top of that the aircraft used in the US programs had all sorts of additional equipment to then haul the retrieved cargo into the back of the aircraft. That simply won't work for the much more voluminous first stage of Rocket Lab and it's kinda hard to land an aircraft with such a payload trailing on a cable behind it without damaging said payload.

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People here laugh, but for larger boosters it's not a terrible idea and not the first time it's been proposed. Especially Russian rocket engineers were rather keen on the idea and it surfaced several times

As a booster for the follow up to the soviet space shuttle Energia booster (Urgan/Energia II)

https://www.reddit.com/r/WeirdWings/comments/b3oyd7/the_zenit_flyback_booster_a_fully_reusable_rocket/

More recently proposed as a booster to the new Russian Angara rocket:

http://www.russianspaceweb.com/baikal.html

A video with some more info and pictures:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVNIaC10MDg&t=360s

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Re: On what scale?

The actual mission is launching the payload. That went off without a hitch. Catching the first stage was only a very minor part of said mission and it failing to snatch the rocket in mid-air doesn't make the overal mission a failure. Since the payload went to space.

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Not an option

They're using all their fuel to get the payload where it needs to go. They don't have the margins like SpaceX does to do a return, re-entry and landing burn. Basically the only option they have is to open a parachute after the rocket did it's thing and starts falling. Since it's flight path doesn't pass over the Delmore Downs, there's no option to land there. They have to either pluck it out of the air where it falls, or pick it up out of the ocean where it falls. Mid-air aircraft refueling is a lot simpler. Both aircraft are actively controlled and it's relatively easy to take the time to set up a rendezvous, keep both aircraft on the same flight path and get close, etc. In the case of catching a rocket stage, it falls under parachute where the flight path and prevailing winds take it. The helicopter pilots have the time between the chutes opening and getting the first position fix until it hits the ocean to get to it and make a pass over the top with the hook on the trailing line in the right position to catch rocket. That's really no easy feat. *magnets* aren't magic or miraculous and are not going to help here.

Two Scotts among volunteers helping NASA to track Artemis mission

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That's... inaccurate?

"The third attempt in late September was also scrubbed, though through no fault of NASA's – Hurricane Ian made landfall just prior to the launch window and caused NASA to cautiously wheel the whole launch assembly back to its hangar for safekeeping."

The third attempt was scrubbed because the hydrogen leaks and engine chill issues hadn't been satisfactorily resolved and time ran out to fix the issues on the pad before the hurricane arrived, which then prompted the roll back, but the launch attempt being scrubbed is an extension of scrub #2, for which NASA can be argued to hold (some of) the blame.

InSight Mars lander has only 'few weeks' of power left

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Re: Brushes?

The lander lasted more than long enough to fulfill the vast majority of it's goals (only experiment that didn't work was the "mole", which failed due to unforeseen soil conditions). It was designed to last 2 years and has made it to just about 4 years, that's quite the achievement in itself. Adding all that weight for clearing solar panels might have made it last longer, but then it wouldn't have been capable of carrying all the science equipment that it did. So what is the point of adding all that extra weight then? What would you choose, lots and lots of data from several experiments for a bit over 2 years (with more limited experiment data continuing to nearly 4 years) or limited data from a limited set of experiments for 6 or MAYBE 8 years (by that time the batteries will probably start failing)?

It's a little sad we lose the lander, but it's done it's job. It's like crying over the perfectly good tunnel boring machines that were buried under the Channel when the Channel tunnel was built. They have done their job, now it's time for them to rest.

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Slight problem there, that helicopter is about 1/3 of the way around the planet. It'd take several thousand of the longest flights it's made so far to even get there. (If it could. Likely it would do it's best impression of an upturned turtle long before that)

I did the math in an earlier thread about the InSight Lander, copied here for your reading pleasure: "That little helicopter is roughly 3450 km away. It's highly unlikely it could even GET to the InSight lander and IF it could make it it would be an epic trek across the planet that would likely take years to complete, by which time it would be pointless. The longest flight of Ingenuity to date iirc was about 700 meters during flight 25. At 3450 km distance that would take nearly 5000 flights to complete!"

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Re: Use inclined solar panels

You could have these upside-down and dust would still cling to them.

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Re: Use inclined solar panels

Complicated, heavy, can damage the panels and probably not nearly as effective as you'd think (try brushing dust off of a statically charged balloon, you'll probably just end up adding more).

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Re: Use inclined solar panels

Working with HV equipment in a vacuum that needs to be super clean I can say that the experiments have been done and have been less than successful. Once particles like that stick it's REALLY hard to persuade them to leave again. Your repelling charge might just shake them loose a little bit, only for them to then get attracted back to your surface at even higher charge levels

SpaceX's Falcon Heavy rocket launches after three-year hiatus with secret US sats

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Except it DOES more or less say that?? For example: "Then, in December 2019, NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine shared informally that he disagrees with the $2 billion figure since the marginal cost of an SLS launch should decrease after the first few, and is expected to end up around $800 million to $900 million, although contract negotiations were only just beginning for those later cores.[121]"

So for at least the first few (even excluding cost-overruns incurred after 2019) the costs ARE over 1bn per launch and even IF more of them are built and launched, marginal cost per launch will in future still be close to 1bn.

As for FH cost, citation needed, but I've seen numbers ranging from 100m to 300m. Yesterdays launch was probably more expensive since they were expending the center core, but on average it'll probably get closer to 150m. FH will certainly be cheaper per launch than SLS, even if we exclude development costs for SLS and include them for FH.

Oh and if we're going to use Wikipedia as a source, Wikipedia literally gives $150m per launch for a fully expendable launch (expending both boosters AND center core, meaning yesterdays launch might have been cheaper since it landed the boosters) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falcon_Heavy#Launch_prices

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Re: It’s not just the cost of SLS

This has nothing to do with new car vs existing car, it's really that bad for SLS. The rocket is brand-new (and will always be brand-new since the whole thing splats into the ocean after launch). Rolling back the vehicle from the launch pad is a multi-day operation in itself. If it's rolled back lots of stuff like flight-abort-system batteries have to be replaced (because they can't be charged while SLS is on the pad and have a limited lifespan) and then the thing has to be rolled back out to the pad and prepped for launch (requiring a weather window long enough to get safely from VAB to pad and prep for launch)

SLS isn't built for fast launch (or for launch in the first place it seems)

'Odor simulation' included in China's national VR plan

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Out of all the stuff one could come up with for VR and VR accessories, Smell-o-vision would be the absolute bottom of the list for me. The last thing I'd need while using VR is to SMELL the unwashed nerd on the other end of the connection.

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Google cardboard was and is a nice gimmick. Most of those "Smartphone in a headset" contraptions equally so. VR or AR really only works with proper 6DOF tracking of sufficient fidelity and accuracy. We're still a very long way off from smartphones having enough ooomph onboard to make that happen.

Minecraft's 'first luxury goods collection' features real-world $3,000 Burberry coat

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F2P shit

I can't help but think this is the sort of stupidity that ruins a game. I played a lot of Minecraft in my youth. Starting at the original alpha release before there was even such a thing as mobs. The attraction of the game was just how simple it was. And I could imagine for parents it was also relatively straightforward, play once and never worry about micro-transactions, just let the little sprog play with what he has (and keep an eye on installed mods if applicable). Nowadays it seems that death-by-a-thousand-cuts is the default payment methods for all games. No up front payment but daily whinging and whining about a few euros here, a few euros there, "But Timmy gets this", "But Monica got that", etc, etc.

NASA details totally doable, not science fiction plan for sending Mars rocks to Earth

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Re: China's Moon Mining is a better idea

Uhmmm, the friggin rocket sky-crane lowering the Curiosity and Perseverance rovers wasn't hard or real? Excuse me???? Do you even begin to grasp just how hard control of a pendulum weight on a long cable below a vehicle like that is? Makes Musks rockets look like childs play.

NASA never did vertical landing because it's never been in a position to really take it on. EVERYTHING NASA does is decided for them by funding and thus by Congress. NASA didn't really want the Space Shuttle as it was eventually designed but they had to make do. NASA didn't want the Orion program, but it had to make do, NASA doesn't really want the SLS, but it has to make do. This constant battle over securing funds as also led to it's gargantuan bureaucracy and failed to properly take on projects like the DC-X. Private enterprise developing solutions like the Falcon 9 is probably the more efficient solution to this problem anyway.

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Re: China's Moon Mining is a better idea

"You do little more than rant, but if you think for a minute that the Rover and the Rocket will be acting autonomously while everyone is cozy sleeping at night, perhaps you should take a lesson from Tesla autonomous driving cars,"

Pretty much all Mars rovers since the cutest of them (Sojourner) have been to a large degree "autonomous" (pre-programmed asynchronous control is probably a better name for it). For early rovers it was mostly a sequence of commands boiling down to "Turn X degrees, drive forwards Y meters, turn Z degrees take photo" which were sent to the rover, then waiting for the results to come back in, spend the rest of the day deciding how to move next and making a command sequence for it, then at the end of the day upload the command sequence, and overnight the data for the result would be received and the next day they could analyse, make a new sequence, send that, wait for results, analyse those, send a new command sequence and go home, repeat ad nauseam.

For newer rovers there's more autonomy, and commands from earth are more along the lines of "drive to this location, preferably along this route". The onboard navigation systems then mostly follow the route but will make autonomous (without human intervention) small course corrections to steer around larger rocks and gullies to prevent wheel damage and optimize travel time.

The claims about moving Dimorphos' orbit around Didymos are very well substantiated and there's plenty of data out there if you care to look. A lot of the data doesn't even come from NASA but from observatories (both optical and radar/radio) in multiple countries. Proving an orbit changed is rather simple. If you know the orbit (and we did) then you can easily predict where something should be after a certain amount of time has passed. If you take a photo after exactly one orbital period (barring some precession wobble and such) the object will be in exactly the same spot around the parent object. When that lines up well for all shots pre impact you know you have a good fix on the orrbit. Post impact the object suddenly isn't where you know it should be based on it's previous orbit. In other words, it's orbit has shifted.

As to the whole space shuttle debacle, that's a discussion in itself and one we can't blame ONLY on NASA.But that requires so much history and program knowledge I'm not going to bother.

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Re: China's Moon Mining is a better idea

Mining the moon is largely pointless. There's currently nothing up there that we need and can't get cheaper and easier here on earth (Earth and Moon share pretty much the same mineral composition. And don't say Helium-3 because we can't actually do anything with it here and won't be able to for at least another decade, probably even longer. First we'd need to get Deuterium-Tritium fusion working. After that we can start trying MAYBE to get up to helium fusion temperatures but we're a VERY long way from achieving that).

The Rover is using a Plutonium power cell, we know exactly how long it's going to live based on the half life of plutonium and previous experience with RTGs (The Voyager probes and the curiosity rover being notable ones).

The sample tubes are not glass, they are titanium (Grade 5 iirc) with gripping and locking provisions designed in. Loading and unloading these will be almost entirely autonomous and certainly none of it will be manually controlled. There would be no human intervention anywhere in the process as the time delay simply doesn't allow for it. Of course a way for the robot to align to the lander and an allowance for minor misalignment is designed into the system. None of that is particularly hard to solve. Getting there safely and dealing with the dust will be the biggest challenges

If you're going to spout bullshit, read up on what you're spouting bullshit about.

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Re: Here's hoping that it will work out

Just to be that guy, WELL AHHCHKTUALLY, they no longer plan to send a rover but now not one but two helicopters intended to provide backup capability to recover the tubes and carry them to the lander, which will then load them into the ascend module, which will in turn dock to an orbiting return module where the sample tubes get transferred from the ascend module to the return module, after which the return module departs to earth (This complicated "pass the parcel" chain is so that nothing that touched the surface of mars gets brought back to earth outside the sample capsule, just in case there IS life on Mars and it's hostile to humans. Viral or bacterial life is the big threat there). The primary method for returning sample tubes to the lander will be Percy itself. If Perseverance is somehow unable to perform the function then the helicopters will be used. The tubes the helicopters would recover are the ones left behind on the surface by Perseverance as it sampled different sites. They would explicitly not be able to retrieve the sample tubes retained on-board the rover. (Current WOW is that they take 2 samples at each location, with one sample tube being left behind and one retained aboard the rover.

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Elon Musk shows what being Chief Twit is all about across weird weekend

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Re: Just for context, Elon Musk tweeted:

"fact-checkers"... I don't usually put much stock in their opinion. The times I've seen them "verify" facts about things I actually know something about (engineering, aviation, some nuclear energy stuff) they're often so far off the ball it's almost funny. I've also seen far to many "fact checks" that boil down to "I think it's wrong so just trust me, bro" instead of giving an actually reliable source to show it's incorrect.

Apple exec confirms iPhones will switch to USB-C because 'we have no choice'

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Re: Waiting…

"They were all saying “I don’t buy Apple because they use lightening”."

I've never ever heard anyone give THAT as the reason for not buying Apple. Stupid interface, walled garden, cost, cultishness, ugly design, etc, yes all of those, but "they use lightning connectors"? Absolutely never.

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And this is why proprietary car interface systems are a bad idea. Alternative to buying a new car for reasons akin to the ashtray being full use something like a CarLinkIt to convert your wired setup to wireless (No idea how well that works).

It's 2023, let's check in with the metaverse... Nope, still doesn't exist

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obvious drivel is obvious

Who pays for this sort of nonsense "research'/report?

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Re: consistent with my experience

If I HAD owned an NFT it's not something I would consider admitting to in polite company. I'd sooner talk about having some disease or show them my baby pictures, much less embarassing.

Gelsinger takes ax to Intel after chip sales slump, profit nosedives

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The problem is that many of the products that Intel considers "crap" might not actually be (or have been) crap, but Intel (outside of CPUs) seems to have ADHD, always going for the next "Ooooohhhhhh, shiny!!!" which is royally pissing off potential customers and has long since soured the market on using Intel products. Couple that to Intel being extremely unhelpful if you're not a millions of units a year customer of their chips and you get the current situation where, outside of CPUs Intel basically has no market share. See the several debacles of Intel trying to get into embedded systems for instance.

Weird robot breaks down in middle of House of Lords hearing on AI art

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Re: Ai-Da Will Not Pass The Turing Test

"I say that not to denigrate the thousands of man-hours "

somehow I doubt the amount of man-hours involved reaches the thousands.

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AI or Ali G. innit?

Voyager mission's project scientist retires after 50 years of service

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Re: 160bps is the downlink...

Dang, signal strength -151.02 dBm (7.90 x 10-22 kW) - > 0.79 attoWatt... That's not a lot of power to work with. And I noticed Madrid was listening to Voyager 1 earlier at -160 dBm. Those radio telescopes are a marvel in themselves.

Chip shortages still plague carmakers despite weaker semiconductor demand

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Coronavirus isn't over, and spin-up takes time

For one thing the coronavirus isn't over so fabs in China, Taiwan (The other China) and Korea for instance are still not all running at full capacity, from what I understand especially the fabs running the older equipment that would be used for the stuff used in cars are still suffering from this.

Apart from that, after car manufacturers suddenly decided to cancel running orders and scale down demand, fabs went in search of other long term customers. There is no new fabs being built for producing in the larger node sizes, so if those fabs are filled up with other customers the car manufacturers will have to go to the back of the line. Even if more fab capacity is opening up (I doubt it) just going from exposing the first layer to having a diced, mounted and packaged chip coming out of a fab takes 3 to 6 months. So a slow increase in fab capacity availability is going to take a while to become apparent to the car manufacturers and others.

Rent-calculating software biz accused of colluding with 'cartel' of landlords

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Re: Intention is irrelevant

Price of entry is too high. These very large housing companies own tens if not hundreds of thousands of properties. Somebody new to the game has to bring extremely large sums of cash and will have to considerably (and probably extremely) overspend as soon as these big companies sniff what they're doing. They don't have to worry about someone offering 5 or 10 properties in a large area of thousands of homes, because they don't have much effect in a market where between the few of them they hold 90% of the other rental properties. People in the lower rent properties are going to want to stay there and keep the cheaper properties of smaller landlords off the market, so they have no impact. And even for the existing players, none of the large suppliers, whether they're using RealPage or not, has an interest in undercutting the cartel, or breaking the cartel. There's less profit in doing so. Short-term AND long term.

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Intention is irrelevant

"but found a way to collude with one another via a third party: RealPage. It is claimed RealPage's software was used by the group to collectively set rent and ensure none of them undercut each other, thus inflating costs for tenants."

Even if they didn't actively collude and agree to do this, the end effect of all of them using RealPage is the same and this needs to be shut down HARD. It's founder/architect has a history of doing this. This Ars Technica/ProPublica article is enlightening: Rent going up? One company’s algorithm could be why. See the bit on "The Origins of Yieldstar". After getting slapped for collusion pulling the same shit for the airlines he spent a few years in eastern Europe and then came back to the US and probably figured he could do the same he did before in a less well regulated and scrutinized market.

Philips axes thousands amid financial loss

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Re: Lost the bet

Not much of Philips left outside of Healthcare if they sell the division outside of a holding company managing the (now tainted) brand name. I doubt they'll take that route

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Re: There's a reason

The only true Philips made Philips products remaining are the shavers and the healthcare products. Everything else is designed, marketed and sold by companies other than Philips with a branding deal so they can put the Philips name on it.

And yeah, I'm currently working for a company that used to be Philips, supplying equipment to another company that started as Philips, and having regular encounters with people who worked for other (now succesful) companies that used to be Philips and the culture of that company still resonates and hampers progress so many years later it's so unfunny it's become funny again. Within our own company I sometimes refer to the former Philips employees as the Philips Fossils. Philips Healthcare honestly makes some very good products (just maybe not their ventilator/breathing products) and their electric shavers are imho also top of the market. Everything else is overpriced and "a bit shit". Even their lighting products (Now made by spun-off Signify. The Hue range was very early to the smart lighting market) haven't really been able to stay relevant as far as I can see.

What's up with WhatsApp? Messaging platform suffers outage in the UK

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The problem is the massive inertia of the shift. If I want to shift to Signal I have to consider either keeping Whatsapp anyway to keep in contact with all others on my list or convince all of my contacts to then make the same consideration. In the end you end up with too many people that go: "eh, can't be bothered" and you have to either stick with existing apps to keep contact with them or lose contact over this. I've long since decided convincing others to put in the effort to convince others that then have to put in the effort to convince yet others is too much effort. I've objected to Meta gobbling my data in time, so theoretically they shouldn't be slurping my data to the Zuckership, I'll live with it for now.

Shareholders slam Zuckerberg's 'terrifying' $100b+ Metaverse experiment

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Facebook is dying

No investor plan is going to change the fact that Facebook was Millenial cool. Now that Millenials are seen as the new Boomers by Gen Z youfs Facebook/Meta is facing a long slow slide into irrelevance as people move on to other platforms (or abandon "social" media altogether as many are starting to realise it's detrimental effects)

Don't believe the hype: HP CEO says 3D printing hasn't met early hopes

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Re: Perhaps it's because HP makes crappy 3D printers

Depending on your expectations an Ender3 with silent stepper drivers and a modern 32-bit main board works just fine too. It takes some fiddling to set it up right but once you've got it running and got the settings right, it prints very very nice.

Taking advantage of a large sale combined with "loyalty points" I bought my Pro for roughly 150 Euro. The price difference to a "proper" Prusa was worth the extra fiddling for me.

As to why you've never heard of HP before, they're only doing B2B sales for their 3d printers afaik, so if you're looking at the consumer market you've never been in their target market in the first place.

NASA picks its UFO-hunting – sorry – unidentified aerial phenomena-hunting team

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Re: "there may be, on average, one civilization out there in existence per galaxy"

No trace of it on this planet, that's for sure. That's probably also why we haven't made contact with any of those civilizations. I mean, why would you try to communicate with a bunch of monkeys?

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"sky-based events that cannot be attributed to aircraft or natural phenomena"

Minor correction that cannot currently be attributed to aircraft or natural phenomena yet

Why are PC webcams crap? Lenovo says it knows the reason

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IF I were to use a webcam it's likely not going to be a screen filling image on the other end. So why do I need to have a 4K ultra super HD webcam to capture an image the other side will see in 480x320 after being compressed to bits?

New measurement alert: Liz Truss inspires new Register standard

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Dabbsy for PM, now there's a movement I can get behind. I doubt he'd want the job though.