* Posts by imaginarynumber

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Apple vs. Samsung goes back to court, again, to re-assess the value of a rounded corner

imaginarynumber

Re: Why do people buy non-Apple products?

Sure, no one had ever used a grid'o'icons before Apple...

It is true that the iPhone was the first to use multitouch, however it was not the first to support finger gestures such as swiping and double tapping.

Multitouch, pinch to zoom, etc had been demonstrated by Jeff Han a year earlier and Jazz Mutant were selling their Lemur multitouch music controller two or three years before the iphone was released.

Other than mutlitouch iOS the iphone wasn't all that different to the other touchscreen phones back in 2007.

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imaginarynumber

Re: *imaginarynumber

Indeed, one has to wonder to what extent the jury were swayed by Apple's whopping porkie-pie about being the first to release a touchscreen smartphone.

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imaginarynumber

Re: If Sammy stole round corners from Apple, who did Apple steal straight sides from???

The 2003 HP TC1100 tablet had rounded corners as well

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_Compaq_TC1100

TBF to Apple, they did cite it as prior art in one of their patent applications.

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imaginarynumber

Re: Rounded corners

Sorry but the rounded corners also applied to the shape of the device.

"The iPhone is radically different from the devices that preceded it. It has a

distinctive shape and appearance—a flat rectangular shape with rounded corners, a metallic edge,

a large display screen bordered at the top and bottom with substantial black segments, and a

selection of colorful square icons with rounded corners that mirror the rounded corners of the

iPhone itself, and which are the embodiment of Apple’s innovative iPhone user interface"

https://www.apple.com/pr/pdf/110415samsungcomplaint.pdf

It is true that Samsung used rounded corners on their icons but those corners were much less rounded. Apple argued that many of the samsung icons looked like Apple's, eg the use of a handset at a 45 degree angle for the phone app and the use of a cog for the settings app. IIRC they also complained about the boxes that Samsung sold their devices in and the use of "rubber banding" when you scroll to the end of a page.

I suspect that Apple fell for their own marketing, they even told the court that they had invented touchscreen smartphones.

"Before the iPhone, cell phones were utilitarian devices with key pads for dialing and

small, passive display screens that did not allow for touch control."

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Mr Angry pays taxman with five wheelbarrows worth of loose change

imaginarynumber

Re: Weigh the coins

"Interestingly, the subway booth attendants in NY could and would reject attempts to pay in large numbers of coins back in '84. Not sure how that worked, and private businesses always have the right to reject payment when the payee is buggering about"

Here in the Uk the ticket machines on the tube will reject your payment if you try to use more than 20(?) coins. I believe that it is a function of the escrow hopper tray being inadequately small.

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Fake History Alert: Sorry BBC, but Apple really did invent the iPhone

imaginarynumber

"Fentem created the multitouch technology essential to modern touchscreen interfaces"

Did he?

Fentem tells us that the was working on multi-touch back in 2002. He provides a link to a video from 2007 in which he demonstrates his 2003/2004 multi-touch prototype music controller.

Although I have no reason to doubt Mr Fentem, according to other pioneers, such as Bill Buxton, Fentem failed to publish anything that demonstrated his early work.

http://www.billbuxton.com/multitouchOverview.html

If Buxton is correct, then how can Fentem have influenced the development of early multi-touch devices?

AFAIK the first commercial product to offer 10 point multi-touch support was the 2003/4 JazzMutant Lemur music controller.

https://web.archive.org/web/20041016212747/http://www.jazzmutant.com/lemur_features.php

Did Fentem work with JazzMutant, did JazzMutant have access to Fentem's work?

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imaginarynumber

Re: IIRC, it was Cisco

Indeed, Cisco still owns the rights to the names iPhone and iOS (in the USA).

http://blogs.cisco.com/news/cisco_and_apple_agreement_on_ios_trademark

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imaginarynumber

Re: Apple invented everything...

@Lotaresco

"The weak spot for Microsoft was that it decided to run telephony in the application layer. This meant that any problem with the OS would result in telephony being lost....

Symbian provided a telephone which could function as a computer. The telephony was a low-level service and even if the OS crashed completely you could still make and receive calls. Apple adopted the same architecture, interface and telephony are low level services which are difficult to kill."

Sorry, but if iOS (or symbian) crashes you cannot make calls.

In what capacity were you evaluating phones in 2002?

I cannot recall ever seeing a Windows Mobile blue screen.It would hang from time to time, but it never blue screened.

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imaginarynumber

Re: Invention of iPhone

"The fixed price data tariff was - to me - the biggest innovation".

In my experience, the iphone killed the "all you can eat" fixed price data tariffs

I purchased a HTC Athena (T-Mobile Ameo) on a T-Mobile-Web and Walk contract in Feb 2007. I had unlimited 3.5G access (including tethering) and fixed call minutes/texts.

When it was time to upgrade, I was told that iphone 3G users were using too much data and that T-Mobile were no longer offering unlimited internet access.

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How Apple exploded Europe's crony capitalism

imaginarynumber

Re: did much the same in the US

Contrary to the tone of the article. Here in the UK, if you go to someone like the CarPhone Warehouse and purchase a handset, more often than not, it will network independent, even if you purchased it as a contract phone. The iPhone will lock itself to the first SIM card that is inserted.

Yeah, Apple really stuck two fingers up to the networks.

And how long did it take apple to allow the iPhone to tether?

I had tethering back in 2002- on a Nokia

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imaginarynumber

"I think the biggest single point is that Apple saw the "phone" as a computer that made calls, while most others saw it as a phone that could do the odd bit of computer work. As Andrew pointed out, the main "customers" of Nokia, etc, were the mobile networks and they were adverse to anything that would *use* those networks to any useful degree and with poor bit rates we had WAP to make it usable, but that was really a misery to use."

The iPhone was yet another in a line of PDAs with phone functions.

Vodafone sold VDA touchscreen smartphones.

O2 sold XDA touchscreen smartphones.

Orange sold SPV touchscreen smartphones.

T-Mobile sold MDA touchscreen smartphones.

Everyone of those Windows Mobile devices had (data hungry) HTML browsers (WM never had a native WAP browser)...

And let's not forget that iOS did not start outselling Windows Mobile until late 2009 (and within a year Android was outselling iOS).

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imaginarynumber

Orlowski- have you been possessed by Charles Arthur?

I recall him writing a similar article when he was the Vicar and Defender of the Faith at the Guardian.

He too tried to argue that the iphone was a democratising force for good. And he too decided to overlook the contribution of the likes of Windows Mobile and Palm. I guess that it is difficult to acknowledge their existence when trying to argue that the iPhone was unique and super high spec.

The uncomfortable truth was that it wasn't as simple as the iPhone Vs WAP devices. Windows Mobile never even had a WAP browser, it shipped with Internet Explorer and by the time the iphone was released, there were 5" phones with Opera's tabbed HTML browser and much higher specifications than the iphone. HTC had already developed TouchFlo which allowed users to scroll, tap and swipe with their fingers.

We are asked to believe that the Telcos didn't want people using data greedy devices but here in the UK, O2 offered the XDA range, Orange the SPV and T-Mobile the MDA.. 4 months before the iPhone was released T-Mobile offered the 5" T-Mobile Ameo for £118 on a £45pm contract that included unlimited 3G access (with tethering). IIRC the only firm that didn't offer unlimited access was O2 who introduced their service in Oct 2007.

However within a couple of years, about the same time as the iphone was becoming popular, all of the networks (bar 3) dropped unlimited access.I, for one, could now no longer stream Hulu (Flash) to my phone with impunity.

I get that you like the iPhone but please stop with the revisionism.

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TV anchor says live on-air 'Alexa, order me a dollhouse' – guess what happens next

imaginarynumber

Re: OK Google, what's the closing time of nearest supermarket?

I once asked an American waitress for "another beer please" and was given an empty plate...

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Soz fanbois, Apple DIDN'T invent the smartphone after all

imaginarynumber

Re: Of course they didnt invent it, but made is so much better

"What Apple did is instantly obsolete all the "special web page" stuff that had been previously required. "Pinch to zoom" with the multi-touch capacitive screen was the game-changer. And Apple had to have that so you could connect to the various WiFi networks that were starting to become available."

My 5" HTC Athena shipped with Opera's multi-tabbed HTML browser (and even had Flash support). Oh and my earlier HTCs had WiFi back in 2004.

Windows Mobile didn't support multi-touch but it did support double tap to zoom and swiping before the iPhone was released.

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imaginarynumber

Re: I am puzzled by the premise of this article

"The only time I've ever seen reference to Apple having invented the smartphone, is people saying "You know Apple didn't invent the smartphone right?!""-

Erm, Apple told the courts that they invented touch screen smartphones...

"Before the iPhone, cell phones were utilitarian devices with key pads for dialing and

small, passive display screens that did not allow for touch control."

- source https://www.apple.com/pr/pdf/110415samsungcomplaint.pdf

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Apple sues Nokia's pet patent trolls

imaginarynumber

Lack of detail

Why is there mention of the fact that Nokia recently acquired some of the patents from Alcatel-Lucent.and Nokia Siemens Networks?

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@PassiveSmoking

How do you know that Android and Windows makers are not already paying licence fees?

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imaginarynumber

Re: How is Nokia a patent troll?

Erm, the iPhone has 4 physical buttons.

I suspect that you are suggesting that the iPhone was the first to ditch dedicated physical dial/hang up buttons. It wasn't.

My 5" HTC Athena didn't have them on the phone's body and IIRC the Neonide N1 didn't either.

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Apple again late to another market others pioneered. Or is it?

imaginarynumber

Mass market uptake?

The iPhone didn't start outselling Windows Mobile until early 2009.

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Ireland to fight against billing Apple for back-taxes

imaginarynumber

I have always wondered if Apple used the iTunes VAT as a bargaining chip.

For years, all iTunes purchases throughout europe carried the higher 23% Irish VAT.

In the meantime the likes of MS and Google applied the VAT rate applicable in the country of purchase.

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Oi, Apple fanbois. Your beloved Jesus Phones are pisspoor for disabled users

imaginarynumber

"I can't help thinking that if these women have fingernails that mean they can't select a date from the sliders they are likely to face wider problems than that with any capacitive touch screen device unless they use some kind of stylus."

Some of the Nokia Lumias had super sensitive screens that would allow you to use a finger nail rather than the fleshy part of your finger. They even worked with standard gloves.

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Tim Cook: EU lied about Apple taxes. Watch out Ireland, this is a coup!

imaginarynumber

I do wish someone would ask Cook why iTunes, registered in the pseudo tax haven of Luxembourg used to charge all EU customers the higher Irish VAT rate of 23%. Doubtless he would say that the servers were based in Ireland.

However if I buy something from the MS or Google store, I am taxed UK VAT and AFAIK their servers are based in Ireland as well.

I wonder if they used all of that lovely VAT to sway the Irish Taxman.

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Apple says banks can't touch iPhone NFC without harming security

imaginarynumber

Re: Comparison Off

AFAIK the chip was only required for communication, not charging.

It would be illegal for a 3rd party to design their own chip. They have to licence them from Apple.So yes anyone is free to make accessories, provided that they pay Apple. So it ain't free..

My leads were only used for charging and there is no evidence that they were dangerous.

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imaginarynumber

Re: The Garden Walls Keep Me Out Anyway

You what?

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Microsoft buries the bad Windows Phone news: Mobile sales collapse

imaginarynumber

Erm... W10M does have sat-nav.

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Windows 10 pain: Reg man has 75 per cent upgrade failure rate

imaginarynumber

Re: Microsoft support will get buried tonight...

Tried to upgrade my Vaio Z11.

Used the system tray upgrade icon. A couple of hours later it told me that I had a DRIVER_POWER_STATE_FAILURE. Eventually rolled back to 7.

Now the icon tells me that my machine is not compatible and invites me to view the compatibly report, which, erm has a big tick and tells me that I am good to go...

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Tight-wad Apple repair techs swapped our damaged iGear with used kit – lawsuit

imaginarynumber

Re: I hear a very small violin playing...

"There are virtually no moving parts on an iPhone. The only thing that can go wrong is the user mistreating it. 100% of the time"

Jesus wept.

Who told you that? Timmy?

And new devices are new regardless of in house testing. They are new because they have not been (or the components used therein) owned by other members of the public.

Regarding refurb units being more reliable than "new" products- can you explain why they often have shorter warranties? If they are more reliable then shouldn't they have equal or longer warranties?

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imaginarynumber

Re: I hear a very small violin playing...

From the court papers-

"---The word "refurbished" appears only once in the AppleCare+ terms and conditions even though the printed booklet is 33 pages long. The word is not even used to reference a device, but a part. ----"

You quote the following from Apple's T&Cs

"a replacement product that is new or equivalent to new in performance and reliability, and is at least functionally equivalent to the original product."

I can see why that might be interpreted as either:

1. A new identical product.

2. A different model that is new but might be better than the model being replaced.

You can argue that people are dumb for not realising that but there was nothing stopping Apple from saying "we reserve the right to give you a brand new product or a refurbished product.

I just looked at Samsung's warranty T&Cs- they state

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imaginarynumber

Yeah- blame the customer..

From the court papers:

--Maldonado purchases an ipad, she breaks the screen 7 months later. A "genius" convinces her to buy a replacement ipad and to pay for AppleCare+ to cover it (total cost $376.71). No one tells her that it is a recon unit- even the receipt refers to it as NEW. --

She paid $249.00 for the iPad and $99 for AppleCare+. Had she known that the unit was a recon, she might not have paid $99 for AppleCare+.

AppleCare+ is an insurance policy. Many customers might be better off with a 3rd party policy, particularly one which offers new for old.

Apple could be upfront about the use of recon units but they ain't...

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Brit chip biz ARM legs it to Softbank for $32bn

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Hermann Hauser- venture capitalist

"Hermann Hauser, the venture capitalist who helped spin ARM out of UK computer maker Acorn in 1990"

Erm, is this the same Hermann Hauser that co-founded Acorn in 1978 with Chris Curry? That was vice-president for research at Olivetti? That acts as the head of the East of England Stem Cell Network (EESCN)?

Simply referring to him as a venture capitalist seems a tad uncharitable.

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Softbank promises stronger ARM: Greater overseas reach and double the UK jobs

imaginarynumber

"Founded in 1990 as a spin-out from an Acorn collaboration with Apple," You omit to mention the 3rd partner, VSLI Technology Inc.

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Surface Book nightmare: Microsoft won't fix 'Sleep of Death' bug

imaginarynumber

Re: Hasn't hibernatation always sucked?

My only gripe with hibernation (on my Vaio Z11 with W7 and 6Gb of RAM)) is that it takes significantly longer to come out of hibernation than to boot from cold. That said it has not failed in over 6 years.

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@aedvalson

"This will replace the driver for the Telemtry System with something different than has been installed by windows updates. I've had no sleep errors at all since I did this."

How long ago was that?

Sorry, not doubting your probity.

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imaginarynumber

Re: You cannot install another OS on the Surface Pro

"Ahhh, that's interesting. I've completely avoided the SP4 due to Windows 10.

I could do Win 8.1, as the CAD software I use works with that. But Win 10 isn't an option."

Downgrading my mate's SP4 to W8.1 was not completely seamless. IIRC the volume buttons weren't mapped properly, the cameras wouldn't work and the power button didn't function properly (relatively minor issues for my friend).

There is more info at the following

http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/threads/surface-pro-4-discussion-thread.67857/page-195#post-461153

You will need to turn off signed drivers and find a licence key.

It is rumoured that battery life under 8.1 is better but I didn't have time to confirm that.

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imaginarynumber

Re: You cannot install another OS on the Surface Pro

"Surface Pro's come with UEFI enabled making it impossible to install another OS on them."

Installed W8.1 on a friend's SP4 (his employers do not support W10).

"If you buy a Surface Pro, you are stuck with Windows."

Incorrect. Others have installed Linux on their Surface Pros

http://blog.davidelner.com/dual-booting-ubuntu-14-10-on-the-surface-pro-3/

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Stop! Before you accept that Windows 10 Mobile upgrade, read this

imaginarynumber

Re: losing an opportunity

"I would wager that a Nokia/WebOS combination would have blunted Android growth, and gave iOS run for it's money."

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Nokia's Symbian was the market leading smartphone OS (by market share) until the middle of 2010, at which point Android usurped them. iOS has never been the market leader.

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Apple engineers rebel, refuse to work on iOS amid FBI iPhone battle

imaginarynumber

Re: I smell fish

"Apple know how their phone backup system works, and clearly the FBI do not."

Then why can't Apple explain how a phone that had been within range of a "trusted" Wifi network on numerous occasions had not backed up for ages? It seems likely that iCloud back ups had been turned off by Farook ages ago. Are Apple able to override user preferences and force back ups? Sounds like a backdoor. Perhaps that is why the Chinese insisted that Apple move their customer accounts on to Chinese state owned servers...

"The remote wipe is a command sent from an Apple server, and is thus quite easy for Apple to block."

Are you suggesting that the FBI can phone Apple moments after an incident and ask Apple to block access to an AppleID/iCloud without needing a court order? If that is the case then yes the FBI messed up but it would imply that Apple aren't as concerned about customer privacy as they would have us believe.

"The case really looks like it's either the FBI trying to cover up their incompetence and then ending up in really hot constituiinal water by mistake, or a deliberate attempt to subvert the rule of law."

I find it hard to believe that the FBI's lawyers would have worked on the assumption that Apple's lawyers would have forgotten to highlight any possible operational errors.

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FBI says NY judge went too far in ruling the FBI went too far in forcing Apple to unlock iPhone

imaginarynumber

Re: How did the ferals solve crimes without phones?

If smartphones represent little more than shortcuts to finding forensic data than what is the big deal about encryption in the first place?

Mind you I think that you may well be the first person I have seen that has suggested that the FBI's requests be declined as part of a weight loss program.

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iPhones clock-blocked and crocked by setting date to Jan 1, 1970

imaginarynumber

Someone running iOS 9.3 beta 3 was trying to fix a bug that stops the time being displayed in the status bar at the top of the phone.

It seems that he tried various dates and eventually scrolled back to 1/1/1970.

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'Dodgy Type-C USB cable fried my laptop!'

imaginarynumber

Benson's list of leads is here

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wJwqv3rTNmORXz-XJsQaXK1dl8I91V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=0

Having purchased a Lumia 950XL, which has "fast charging" rather than "quick charging", I have been looking for suitable chargers. I guess I am gonna have to stump up £20 for a USB-C charger. I would have preferred a 3 AMP charger with both USB-A and USB-C ports but thus far they look a tad iffy.

(BTW you cant "fast charge" using USB-A to USB-C)

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imaginarynumber

Re: Who ever designed..

And what is it about your 5 year old Mac that is so magical?

(sent from my 2010 Sony Vaio Z11- with a removable battery)

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Eight-billion-dollar Irish tax bill looms over Apple

imaginarynumber

"I think most posters here need to read up on "Tax Incidence" and do a little less public showing of greed and envy."

And when MegaGlobal Incs are able to pay for the right to avoid so much in taxes it impacts upon smaller firms that are less able to comptete.

These smaller firms are more likely to be more labour intensive and accordingly employ more people

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imaginarynumber

Re: Actually there will be ZERO cost for Apple to pass on

"These deals are not being done in a back alley with companies handing a suitcase full of cash to the head of a country's tax department with a handshake agreement "we'll look the other way when you pay less taxes" like some third world company with rampant bribery."

Suitcase full of cash? All of the iTunes purchases made in the EU carried Irish VAT (23%). At the same time MS and Google customers paid the VAT applicable in their own country.

S'funny how a firm is allowed to have a number of subsidiaries that pay absolutely no taxes and the authority that allows the set up gets billions in VAT that they would not have ordinarily received...

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Outfit throws fit, hits FitBit's hit kit with writ (Apple also involved)

imaginarynumber

Re: Always the same argument

Company X may well have looked at the research papers, thought "oh that's clever, how we we do the same thing in a slightly different way?".

IF company X believes that it has acted legally then it would have no incentive to cover its tracks

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Hold on, France and Russia. Anonymous is here to kick ISIS butt

imaginarynumber

Re: Getting Tough

"Don't you know that nazi was an abbreviation for National Capitalist"

Erm, you mean the political party that rejected both free market capitalism and Marxist socialism?

They could have called themselves the National My Little Pony Party, it doesn't follow that they had an equine fetish or that they wanted to elevate the position of those with pink manes

No need to reply, it is pretty clear from your tired post where your political allegiances lie (which is your prerogative). For the record, I am a "none of the above" kinda guy (rightly or wrongly).

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Internet daddy Vint Cerf blasts FCC's plan to ban Wi-Fi router code mods

imaginarynumber

How do you police this?

And how will the old bill know what firmware you are using?

Will the TSA prevent tourists with European phones from entering the USA lest they use channel 12 or 13 when using their phone as a Wifi HotSpot?

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Apple borks Apple News ad-blocking app due to 'privacy concerns'

imaginarynumber

IF Apple are concerned about security then it is correct that they explain the potential dangers to users. If they have grounds to believe that the public will fail to understand those risks then, sure, pull all domestic apps that install root certificates.

IF Apple respect privacy, then give developers tools that not only allow them to block adverts in Safari (already done) but that also allow them to block adverts in apps (including iAds).

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Apple's big secret: It's an insurance firm (now with added finance)

imaginarynumber

"When the iPhone had no modern competition (meaning its competition was Symbian and BlackBerry)"

You are Charles Arthur and I claim my £10.

Seriously though... Lets all play "Windows Mobile or Palm didn't exist".

My Feb 2007 HTC Athena was vastly superior to the first few generations of the iPhone. I too had tabbed browsing but unlike the iPhone I could use 3G rather than Edge. I could play Flash video, I had GPS, rear and front facing camera, camera flash, copy'n'paste, video calling, MMS, a much bigger screen (5"), higher screen resolution and pixel density, more RAM , a faster processor, SD support, grown up bluetooth, stereo speakers, multitasking, gyroscope, S/W and a detachable H/W keyboard. Oh and it was made out of aluminium.

Kinda like an iPad pro but you could use it as a phone.

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Return of the Pocket PC: Acer shows off Jade Primo PC Phone

imaginarynumber

Indeed.

I will hold off for the Intel based Surface Phone

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