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Judge uses 1st Amendment on Pokemon Go park ban. It's super effective!

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Re: They are not laws

@Destroy All Monsters

They are not laws, they are changes to the constitution, and, being in effect, articles of the Constitution.

They are laws. From Article VI:

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

So, yes, amendments are changes to the Constitution and become, effectively, articles of the Constitution. And, being articles of the Constitution, they are the supreme law of the land.

They are laws.

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I've got a verbal govt contract for Hyperloop, claims His Muskiness

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A disastrous idea

Even if he could actually build it at all (there's a lot of doubt about that), the slightest problem would destroy most of the tube, the vehicle and the people on board. A sudden tube breach will have some seriously nasty effects because of the release of a lot of energy as the vacuum is lost.

Could he build it so that it would work for a while, and do so at a cost that makes the whole thing seem feasible (if you pretend none of the failure modes will ever happen)? Probably not. Pump-down is going to be very slow and they don't yet have a feasible design for letting people board the capsule without first re-pressurizing the whole system then pumping it down again (which is not just slow but requires a lot of energy).

Then there are the failure modes. Thermal expansion is going to cause it to buckle, with disastrous results. Differential thermal expansion (top is warmer than the bottom) is going to cause it to buckle, with disastrous results. Using invar rather than steel might avoid the thermal expansion problems but invar is quite a bit more expensive. Failure of maglev on a capsule going at the speed of a bullet, even if it drops onto wheels, is going to cause the capsule to graze the tube, with disastrous results.

If the capsule develops a leak, that won't destroy the whole system (At last, a failure mode that doesn't destroy the whole system) but the occupants will not disembark in good condition, or under their own power. But they'll probably be freeze-dried, so they'll be lighter to lift out and cost less to cremate (no water, so they'll burn more easily).

Oh, and... A car hitting one of the supports (most of his design versions are on pillars, not underground) will have disastrous results. A bullet through the pipe will have disastrous results - no need for a bomb, just somebody with a handgun.

For more detailed analyses, see any of these Thunderf00t videos. Note: later videos re-use some footage from the earlier ones so that each can stand alone, so if you watch the whole lot you'll see the same points several times. From oldest to newest:

How the Hyperloop can kill you!

The Hyperloop: BUSTED!

Elon Musks Hyperloop: BUSTED!

Hyperloop crashes and BURNS!!!

Entire Hyperloop could be destroyed in SECONDS!

Hyperloop, HyperSPEED, HYPERMADNESS!

To be fair, there have been several attempts to debunk the Thunderf00t analyses. Most prominently by Shane Killian. However, I long ago found that when Killian talks about anything outside his areas of expertise (whatever they might be, if in fact there are any), he's wrong. You'll have to judge for yourselves.

Then again, everybody thought Musk was crazy for trying to land the first stage of the Space-X vehicles so he could re-use them. So maybe he's right on this one. However, with Hyperloop, Musk has made the concept public domain for anyone to build. He's not risking any of his own money or any significant amount of his time on it.

I think this concept was based on a "back of a fag packet" calculation, then announced, then Musk did more detailed calculations and realized how unworkable it was, so made it PD. Your mileage may vary. Particularly if you ride on an imploding Hyperloop.

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Microsoft finally allows hosted desktops on multi-tenant hardware

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Re: Decades behind!

Yup, Microsoft finally allows capabilities offered by others decades ago.

Be fair to them. Microsoft innovates stuff it copies/buys/steals. It adds its special sauce of brokenness, unreliability and unusability. Superficially it looks the same as other people had decades ago, but the proof of the pudding is in the throwing up.

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They say we're too mean to Microsoft. Well, how about this... Redmond just had a stonking year. And only 8% tax. Whee!

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Thoughts on tax avoidance

Some thoughts here that will get me massively downvoted by the hard of thinking.

To aid borderline thinkers: remember that tax evasion and tax avoidance are two different things. Tax evasion is illegal; tax avoidance is immoral. As Aladdin Sane pointed out, under US law Microsoft is legally obligated to maximize shareholder return by whatever legal means possible. Tax avoidance is legal.

Microsoft has done nothing illegal, merely what many commentards (me included) consider to be very immoral (and something which adds insult to injury by taking money from taxpayers to produce incredibly shoddy products).

Most of you are programmers. You love finding, and exploiting, edge-cases in your code. You produce code that relies upon obscure (but documented, and therefore semi-guaranteed to keep working) effects of library calls. Any programmer who uses the variable++ convention to increment a variable is exploiting a side-effect possible in languages that permit assignments that discard the result. It is hardly surprising that IT companies are amongst the forefront of those exploiting tax laws in the same way.

For all of us (me included) who are unhappy that Microsoft, Google, Starbucks et al. evade taxes by exploiting the law, the answer is not to shame them. It's to change the fucking laws to make that evasion impossible.

Damn, it seems to be my day for writing posts that are going to get a lot of knee-jerk downthumbs. Pub o'clock cannot come too soon.

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US Homeland Sec boss has snazzy new laptop bomb scanning tech – but admits he doesn't know what it's called

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Nerd?

A lot of people have blasted Kelly for calling Pistole a nerd. That may be the case. But it may not be. The printed word, particularly a transcript, loses a lot of meaning.

If might have been said in a way that indicated humour and camaraderie (perhaps even respect and affection) because tone of voice and body language convey a lot of meaning.

It might have been said in a way that indicated contempt.

Given that Williams asked Pistole for an explanation and thanked Pistole for giving one, Williams seems to have held Pistole in some esteem. Given that Kelly got a laugh for calling Pistole a nerd, there's a chance it was said in a humorous way or the audience might have responded differently.

That's purely conjecture on my part. My interpretation could be completely wrong. But the interpretation that is scathing of Kelly could also be completely wrong. There isn't enough information in a transcript to be sure either way.

And now I shall await the inevitable downthumbs that come from people who dislike having their hasty assumptions challenged. You know who you are.

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Alphabay shutdown: Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do? Not use your Hotmail...

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Found hanging by a towel

Given how clever the guy was, he probably thought the towel was a neck tie and had problems adjusting the knot.

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'Coke dealer' called us after his stash was stolen – cops

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Re: Finglas Man

They haven't caught me yet.

Bwahahahaha.

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Breathless F-35 pilots to get oxygen boost via algorithm tweak

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The extra training is this

[Begin extra training]

1) You all remember the hypoxia training you had?

2) This is an F-35.

3) The breathing equipment on an F-35 is shit.

4) So if you find yourself in an F-35 at altitude, keep checking for signs of hypoxia.

[End extra training]

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We're all saved. From the killer AI. We can live. Thanks to the IEEE

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Re: This means that...

@chuckufarley

I believe you need one of these.

Warning: do not look directly into laser beam with remaining eye.

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.. ..-. / -.-- --- ..- / -.-. .- -. / .-. . .- -.. / - .... .. ... then a US Navy fondleslab just put you out of a job

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Re: By "Officer of the Deck" do you mean "Officer of the Watch"?

I'm obviously losing the plot here. I thought they were using a fondleslab. Now you're saying they've put it onto a smart watch? Does it need the phone or is it operating independently?

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Re: "whether the Navy should be abandoning low-tech backup solutions"

All this brings to mind something I was told (and could be an urban legend).

At one point the navy insisted that the on-deck electronic fire control system for some weapon or other be able to withstand the heat flash of a nearby nuclear detonation. The manufacturer questioned that requirement as the heat flash would kill the operator. The reply was that they could always send up another seaman from below decks.

So EMP hardening isn't necessary as long as they have sufficient spare iMorseControllers below decks.

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Stop all news – it's time for us plebs to be told about BBC paycheques!

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Christopher Fucking Evans

Is the highest paid?!?!?!?!?!?!

I used to argue strongly for the BBC because its independence of advertisers forced the commercial broadcasters to present largely independent news. Unlike the USA, where news has become highly influenced by advertisers.

Now I know that the ginger twunt is the highest paid, not so much.

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School of card knocks: Russophone criminals offered online courses in credit card fraud

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Sounds a bit like Trump University

Only more honest.

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Australia releases MH370 sea floor data but search is still off

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Re: Undersea pyramids?

Yeah, but Bill O'R'lyeh getting fired for sexual harassment is old news, whatever language you say it in.

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Guess who's here to tell us we're all totally wrong about net neutrality? Of course, it's Comcast

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Never trust

Never, ever trust any company which says "You don't need to introduce laws to make us do this because we're going to do this anyway."

There are two reasons.

1) If they really were going to do it anyway, then the law will make absolutely no difference to them. So they have absolutely no reason to oppose the law.

2) If they really were going to do it anyway, then the law will prevent their competitors gaining unfair advantage by not doing it.

So any company that says "Don't introduce a law because we'll do it voluntarily" is a bunch of lying, fucking arseholes who cannot be trusted. Don't do business with them unless you have no other option.

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Iranian duo charged with hacking US missile simulation software biz

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Think relay

@JaitcH

I didn't think "relay." I thought "Krytron."

The knowledge is out there. There are even several youtube videos about them. So there was no need to be coy about the name.

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China's censorship cyber-missiles shoot down pics flying through WhatsApp, chat apps

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Re: image degradation

Nice idea. Very nice. But...

Degrade images to get past hash matching. Fairly obvious, but with an app that changes bits randomly each time the image is sent/forwarded, it would evade hash matching. Google, however, has fairly intelligent image classifying algorithms, and China has a large search engine company which could well be heavily influenced by the gov't (if not now then certainly if hash evasion becomes common) and which probably has its own image classifying stuff.

As for the meta-staganographic idea of using image degradation to flag impending events, that would make the image very noisy and be fairly easily detectable. It would also mean that pictures of snowstorms, etc., would get blocked.

A snowstorm canary would work, though. Send pretty pictures of snowstorms regularly, so that when degraded images are used to signal impending events blocking noisy images shows the canary has been killed.

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UK government's war on e-cigs is over

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Re: No vaping in the workplace please

Can somebody pay a visit to bombastic bob's home and check his garden for suspicious pods?

That's four or five posts of his I've seen in this thread where he's been entirely reasonable, rational, well-informed and sane.

He has surely become a pod person.

Or maybe he already was a pod person but the real bob just managed to kill the alien.

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Re: No vaping in the workplace please

Because maybe the majority of the "Smoke" from an e-cig is water vapor?

No it is not.

The "smoke" from an e-cig is vegetable glycerine or propylene glycol. Usually it's a mix of the two, though the proportions vary from manufacturer to manufacture and product to product from the same manufacturer. Not because of crappy quality control but because of different recipes with different characteristics.

There is no more water vapour in exhaled e-cig smoke than in the breath you exhale. We all exhale water vapour. Vapers do not exhale more water vapour than non-vapers.

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That's because you don't have asthma.

@AC

I do. And I'm happily sucking on a vape right now.

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Re: Jesus, NO!

@William 3

For a moment, there, I thought you were talking about me. Then I remembered I don't wear after-shave (crappy or non-crappy).

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The curious case of a Tesla smash, Autopilot blamed, and the driver's next-day U-turn

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Re: Hmm

if it does not feel torque on the steering wheel, if this is ignored, the car will disable autpilot and slow down to 0mph.

That's scary.

I'd want it to keep the autopilot engaged in the process of slowing the car down to 0mph. Just turning the autopilot off at the same time as it kills power to the motors isn't my idea of good design.

Or maybe it's just badly-written blurb on the website...

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Thanks for U-turning on biz-killing ban, Ofcom – now cough up, say GSM gateway bods

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Re: 999

Yeah, same data presented to the control room. However, there are advantages to using 112 on mobile.

The GSM standard specifies that mobiles will allow you to dial 112 even when the screen is locked. The GSM standard specifies that 112 will connect you to any available network if your MNO is down.

The GSM standard specifies that 112 will connect you to any available network even if you do not have a SIM in the phone. The GSM standard specifies that 112 will get you through to the emergency services, possibly via some sort of indirection like the ordinary operator. That's anywhere in the world. Not just the UK. Not just the EU. Anywhere you can use your mobile, 112 is a guaranteed-to-work emergency number.

Some countries, such as the UK, no longer fully comply with the GSM standard. After too many prank calls made with SIMless phones, 112 will now connect you to the network but if your phone doesn't have a SIM then the call doesn't get routed.

Despite that, 112 is the number to use on your mobile if you're a globetrotter. No more "I'm in Liberia today, what's the emergency number?" it's 112 on a mobile. Provided you have a signal, of course.

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NASA whistles up electron noise from the Van Allen belt

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Erm

I first read about whistlers in the mid 60s. Never actually heard them before, but I've long imagined how they'd sound (aided somewhat by the description I read in the 60s).

Maybe it's just me, but the first one sounds exactly how I imagined whistlers would sound, despite it being labelled "Chorus." And the second one sounds like a chorus, despite it being labelled "Whistler Waves."

Obviously I'm suffering from alcohol deficiency, which is known to cause scary hallucinations (like Donald Trump being president).

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Does that make the Van Allen belt

Whistler's mother?

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Dow Jones index – of customers, not prices – leaks from AWS repo

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Meh

Every time it rains,

It rains, data from Amazon.

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Jesus walks away after 7,000lb pipe van incident

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Able to walk away

Yes, but with the penguin-like gait of one who has suddenly, explosively shat himself.

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UK.gov snaps on rubber gloves, prepares for mandatory porn checks

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Re: Cambridge Analytica

You might be overly paranoid here.

This is the Daily Fail we're talking about. My guess is that it's just a sCUNThorpe filter.

A simple empirical ANALysis should prove if I'm right or wrong in my assumption that the bANAL Daily Fail has screwed up not only its reporting but also its IT.

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Truly epic fail

How much stupidity can be gathered together before it forms a singularity?

How are they going to make this work with every porn website in the world? Especially when new ones pop up every day.

How are the porn sites going to verify age other than by enforcing a card transaction? Will it be a one-off? Per visit? Per day? Per image? Do they refund the transaction once identity has been verified so you can surf the teasers for free?

What prevents people setting up dubious porn sites in failed countries that just take the identification fee and provide no porn? What prevents those sites raping your bank acount and stealing your identity?

What the holy fuck is wrong with your ISP noticing that your bill has been paid by a means which proves your age, giving you a username and password and allowing that user to define whether porn should be permitted or not? Sure, you need a list of porn websites to make it work, but at least they don't have to be porn websites that have been validated as being operated by honest porn merchants who won't rip you off when you pay an identification fee.

Oh, wait, that last one is what we have now. That is obviously unacceptable. Because reasons.

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Three Microsoft Outlook patches unpatched, users left to DIY

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WSUS

@adam payne

WSUS is horrible, doesn't uninstall update very well and needs a massive redesign.

All of these problems were fixed two years ago in a massive redesign of WSUS and the update was pushed out. Unfortunately, existing WSUS is too broken to be able to install fixed WSUS, or even report that there is a problem trying to install it, or even list it as an update awaiting to be installed.

Which is about what you'd expect.

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Linus Torvalds may have damned systemd with faint praise

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Re: Last time

Last time Linus sounded a faint praise (of BitKeeper), git was born.

It is possible that Linus is one of those people who heaps insults and swearing upon those he thinks may be capable of improvement, whilst those who are beyond redemption are damned with faint praise.

I sure as hell hope so.

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Re: Women Linux Lord ?

@h4rm0ny

I'm not sure any single person can be "a women".

These days, it's perfectly possible. It's all to do with allowing people to choose which gender pronoun they wish to be referred by, and stuff like that. So a transsexual might choose "he," "she," "ze" or even "they." No, I'm not making this up.

Anyway, even without all that, a single person with multiple personality disorder could (presumably) be "a women."

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IETF moves meeting from USA to Canada to dodge Trump travel ban

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World Record

@bombastic bob

I've contacted the Guinness Book of World Records on your behalf. They're prepared to accept your post as an attempt to set a new record for the most downvotes on an El Reg commentard post in a single day.

You have until midnight tonight for the votes to count.

Best of luck!

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Eggheads identify the last animal that will survive on Earth until the Sun dies

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the planet has billions of years to play with before the sun goes night-night

Ummm, actually, no.

The sun will swell up into a red giant that will engulf the earth, wiping out the Keithigrades. Ummm, Water Richards. Whatever. Not so much the sun going night-night as going day-day.

A long time after that the sun will become a white dwarf. And a very long time after that the white dwarf will cool off to the point where it is no longer luminous in our visible spectrum. But that will be a really long time after the red giant killed off all the tardikeiths.

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Kerberos bypass, login theft bug slain by Microsoft, Linux slingers

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Re: Many eyes!

But all looking at pr0n...

So why is all the pr0n I look at rubbish?

This "many eyes" thing obviously doesn't work.

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Trump tramples US Constitution by blocking Twitter critics – lawsuit

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Re: @Handleoclast ... @handleoclast ... As I understand it

@Ian Michael Gumby

You have produced a concise summary of Twitter's legal position. It may or may not be correct but I don't really care either way.

What you have completely ignored is the US Constitution and case law surrounding it that apply to official presidential communications and the first amendment.

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Re: @handleoclast ... As I understand it

@Ian Michael Gumby

The first amendment covers more than just freedom of speech. It also covers

the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Knight Institute's argument is, as I understand it, that Trump has made @RealDonaldTrump a place for official presidential statements (or so Spicey said), and that twitter is a public forum where people peaceably assemble. There they petition Trump for a redress of grievances. Admittedly, most of those grievances are the fact that Trump is president, but that's irrelevant.

Imagine what would happen if Trump decreed that news organizations could not publish anything he doesn't like about his official policy statements. Not even if it's true and not defamatory. That would be only a minor escalation of his Twitter policy.

That doesn't mean Knight is certain to win the case, just that your argument doesn't prove they're going to lose. If it goes to the Supremes then they probably will lose, but if so that's likely to be a political rather than a legal decision.

Your argument would apply to the White House web site. It's not a public forum. People have no right to reply in situ. Twitter is a public forum and Trump is using it to issue official policy statements. It's as if Trump suddenly decided to post official policy statements in these hallowed commentard pages and demanded that El Reg block anyone from replying to his posts if they said bad things about him.

As others have pointed out, Trump could avoid the legal problem entirely by making the account read-only. What they didn't point out is why he won't do that: he wants the adulation. He craves adulation. He's desperate for adulation. So he won't make the account read-only.

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Re: Mmmm. Will hinge upon --

It is de facto not de jure.

There is no statute or precedent making @RealDonaldTrump an official communication channel, so it is not an official communications channel de jure. That would not prevent a court ruling that Trump using it as a official communications channel means that it may legally be regarded as such (which would mean the court recognises it as a de facto official communications channel).

Then again, IANAL, so I am probably loquitur ex meum asinus.

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Re: As I understand it

@a_yank_lurker

You appear not to understand it very well. Or, at best, you are under-informed.

Here is a press briefing by Sean Spicer where he says that Trump "is the President of the United States, so they're considered official statements by the President of the United States."

So there you have the definitive, official answer on this. Until Trump decides to contradict what Spicey said. Which he probably will. And then the day after contradict himself.

Whether or not that then means Americans have a constitutional right to respond to those tweets is another matter. But they are (until Trump changes his mind) official statements by POTUS even if they come from @RealDonaldTrump.

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Ready, aim... Ignition! Valley VC bigwig ejects after conduct complaints

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Frank Artale?

Frank Artale? Really?

F. Artale?

Fart Ale?

Was he an unwanted child that his parents would give him such a name?

Then again, probably better liked by his parents than the SF author who insists on including his middle name, because "Orson Card" without the "Scott" in the middle is ridiculous, even if it does remind us of the original autonomous vehicles.

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Dial S for SQLi: Now skiddies can order web attacks via text message

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Anarchi scanner?

Oooh, that sounds really dangerous. A scanner created by bomb-throwing anarchists!!!

The URL the link points to, however, is for www.arachni-scanner.com, which has somewhat different, spiderish, connotations.

A thinko, perhaps?

Or maybe the scanner really is created by dangerous, bomb-throwing spiders.

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Blighty's prosecutors slammed for failing to deliver savings on electronic tagging

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This is outrageous

This is a total waste of public monies.

The perpetrators should be prosecuted for peculation.

As punishment, their movements should be restricted by means of an electronic tag.

Oh. That's not going to work, is it?

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Ubuntu Linux now on Windows Store (for Insiders)

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Re: full Inception

Randall got there before you with the XKCD development environment.

More amusing would be to run a Linux host on a Windows host and then somehow move the original Windows into a VM on the Linux host. My guess is the universe would implode.

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Wine in reverse

Going from biblical authority, wine in reverse would be water.

And for my next miracle...

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Trump backs off idea for joint US/Russian 'impenetrable Cyber Security unit'

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Better criticisms

There are better criticisms of Trump than Rubio's. For example, this gem from Republican Senator Lindsey Graham:

...not the dumbest idea I've ever heard, but it's pretty close.

Or the one from the former US attorney Preet Bharara (fired by Trump in March):

When pursuing a corrupt politician, mobster or murderer on strong FBI evidence, if he "vehemently denied it," we just dropped it usually.

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Re: bonobos

@Scroticus Canis

Linnaean classification has been abandoned as unfit for purpose. People tried to patch it up with sub-orders, infra-orders, super-genera and hacks like that but it became unworkable.

These days, biologists use cladistic taxonomy: organisms are categorized based on shared derived characteristics that can be traced to a group's most recent common ancestor and are not present in more distant ancestors.

We, and bonobos, are apes because our most recent common ancestor had the characteristics of an ape. We, and bonobos, are also monkeys because our most recent common ancestor with monkeys would have been classified as a monkey.

You recoil from that? But you have absolutely no problems with admitting that we're placental mammals (like cats, dogs, etc). Or that we're mammals (which includes the non-placental mammals like kangaroos and the duck-billed platypus). We're also vertebrates (which includes birds, reptiles, amphibians, mammals and fish). You'll probably also admit that we're animals (although you might need to be pushed into that one by first admitting that we're not plants or fungi).

Cladistic taxonomy has some interesting outcomes. Birds are classed as dinosaurs. Which is really cool. Mankind really did walk with dinosaurs, and still does. Just not the big ones the creationists would have you believe.

Cladistic taxonomy is not without problems. Technically we're also fish. We're derived from that branch of fish that moved onto land. In that sense, birds, amphibians, and reptiles are also fish. Biologists tend to avoid mentioning that, but it's how the system works. A clade starts at one point on the tree of life and encompasses all of its descendants. Those of us who aren't biologists tend to use "fish" in a non-cladistic way because it's more useful in everyday usage.

So, yes, bonobos are monkeys. Unlike most monkeys, they're also apes. As are we.

For more details, see This video by Aron Ra (contains language that some people might consider NSFW).

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BOFH: That's right. Turn it off. Turn it on

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Re: blockquote

Think Ars will ever add...

Nope. They never will.

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Now Uber sued for textual harassment

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Have things changed

or is it still the case in the US that you pay to receive an SMS not to send one? In which case I'd be after every penny Uber has.

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While USA is distracted by its President's antics, China is busy breaking another fusion record

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Re: Flat Earth

You're right, flat earthers are crazy. Even crazier than young earth creationists (although some are insane enough to be both).

The Flat Earth Society's most recent world model

This has been extensively, thoroughly and hilariously debunked by youtube user CoolHardLogic here.

His other videos are good, too.

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Re: let me guess...

Whats wrong with Bombastics post?

My guess is that what those downvoters found wrong with Bob's post is that Bob wrote it. Nothing more than that. It is "argument from no authority" in its worst form.

Argument from authority and from no authority can sometimes be justified on Bayesian grounds: "X is an expert in the field and is usually right so when X says it [s]he's probably right." More often it is fallacious: "I think the sun shines out of Donald Trump's arse so when he says this he's absolutely right. Bigly."

I think most of those downvotes came from people who intensely disagree with Bob's ordinary posts (as do I) so they downvoted this particular post out of laziness (or even spite) instead of evaluating it for itself.

Looked like a reasonable argument to me, too. So I followed the link. It too, seemed reasonable. And Bob made the effort to restate it in his own words rather than regurgitate it verbatim, so he put some thought into it. It certainly didn't merit a downvote, in my opinion.

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