Re: @codejunky A minority
@ sed gawk
"It might suprise you to learn, that I think a hard brexit is the best possible outcome"
Thats also my position but for different reasons. Some people seem to think the EU is some wonder. That life ends at its borders. Even that it somehow is the reason we havnt had another world war!
"We are not equal, and our votes don't count the same. Depending on where you live in the country, your vote counted or not, demographics and grade boundaries dominated this referendum and every G.E. in my living memory."
The referendum ignored such boundaries so no. It was a simple majority referendum. In the GE's there was overwhelming votes (in number as well as boundary adjustments) for a referendum, and the only major party for remain was all but wiped out.
"Outrageous slander. I voted in the interests of my country, and the accusation of "Selling the country" is just cheap and shameful, for shame sir, for shame."
I respond in kind. You claimed I needed an education and bated into being weaponised, so dont dish what you cant take. I too voted what I consider in the interests of my country as I accept you did too.
"While we are counting votes, Boaty mc-Boatface won the vote, I don't see you being outraged that "the will of the people" was ignored there, despite that being an *informed* vote."
Thats because on that matter I am a non-voter without an opinion. I dont give a hoot what it was called. Also where would you expect to see me outraged about that?
"just voted the same colour as they normally do, sadly that's British Politica for you"
Except the only major party for remain who would overturn the democratic result in an instant using the weighted voting of a GE (as you point out above) was almost wiped out completely.
"I voted to retain protections against the political class that has decimated this countries youth, manufacturing and education sectors."
Ok. And I voted against adding another government on top of our government which only expands the political class with little benefit but great destruction (e.g. decimating countries to save their currency). Both are opinions and we voted. 3 votes resulted in change.
"Like what, leaving EU28 makes little difference, the vast majority of migration is from outside EU27 in anycase"
Erm, no. Migration was about similar for both, but outside the EU has real requirements while within the EU migration is ridiculously easier as proven by my friends from inside and outside the EU.
"I'm saying that leave or stay, makes no difference to your friends."
Actually it could. Since those wishing to migrate here could be treated like the rest of the world.
"Perchance, is that because I disagree with your conclusion, in support of which, you've offered not a single fact, and instead made an assumption about my unexpressed position."
No its more to do with you assuming I am uneducated on the topic, assuming your opinion is more valid and your expressed position is how good the EU is. And your claim that there is zero benefit to leaving.
"Strawman, I didn't suggest otherwise, I advocated educating yourself on the subject"
Countering yourself in the same sentence doesnt bode well. Go on lets discuss- economic, democratic, economy, trade, sovereignty. Your choice.
"If you think Brexit is going to change that, for better or for worse, I'd be interested to understand how I've been protected thus far and will be exposed."
Ok so you have been protected. Great (I do mean that). And your fine regardless of outcome, lucky you. I am pretty sure then what you have expressed at your expectation isnt about you but of others, and same with me. We just have different opinions. In fact our discussion here started with you misunderstanding voters and population as I corrected someones big mistake.