* Posts by DeKrow

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There are already Chinese components in your pocket – so why fret about 5G gear?

DeKrow

Re: "It is perfectly possible for the West [..] to decide on a coherent policy"

Very long bow to draw saying that the US destroyed Nokia and Blackberry. Do you have any citations for this claim?

My understanding has been, for a long while, that Blackberry and Nokia failed because they didn't adapt to the Android / iPhone generation. They were leaders for their time, but failed to see the big new wave coming and wiped out.

DeKrow

Re: "It is perfectly possible for the West [..] to decide on a coherent policy"

So, what you're saying is "out of the frying pan into the fire"?

Internet Society CEO: Most people don't care about the .org sell-off – and nothing short of a court order will stop it

DeKrow

Re: Most people don't care whether Andrew Sullivan is alive or dead

It's a very similar look to the Minister he played in The Boat that Rocked...

DeKrow
Holmes

Most people don't care whether Andrew Sullivan is alive or dead

But that doesn't mean that murdering him is OK.

… or does it?

We lose money on repairs, sobs penniless Apple, even though we charge y'all a fortune

DeKrow

Hollywood Accounting

Accounting. "I do not think it means what you think it means"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_accounting

The more big companies are exposed for their creative accounting practices, the more I wonder about the motivations of politicians chipping away at individual privacy and promoting ever-expanding surveillance.

The governments of "The West" are playing catch-up to China. The big, smart, corporates are level pegging with China.

Internet world despairs as non-profit .org sold for $$$$ to private equity firm, price caps axed

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Re: The Internet is for everyone

I was going to mention in my earlier comment that this decision could lead to further fracturing of the Internet due to the potential to spur along custom DNS projects.

What are the chances that the operators of the root Domain Servers can protest this decision via disobedience by refusing to update .org records?

If this situation is one of the "pure suits / non-technical / boardroom-only" decisions, is there a critical mess of techy-resistance to it such that disobedience / resistance is possible?

DeKrow
Mushroom

Re: Is it just me? Fuck no!

I've tended to mostly ignore and down-play any announcements of "The Internet ain't what it used to be", mainly because the 'old internet' still exists for those willing to spend the time to search for it; the "new" Internet is in addition to the internet of old, it didn't replace it despite the fact it shouts more loudly for our attention. "New Internet" is the tourist magnets, whilst the "Old Internet" is the still-present hinterland.

This decision, however, is a much more fundamental change. The combination of 'removal of price caps' and 'sale to a private company' for one of the three original TLD's is market / regulatory capture that has the potential to be more effectively damaging and lucrative than domain-squatting.

An organisation's domain name is synonymous with their reputation, and for .org being generally non-profits, they're less likely to enjoy being squeezed to maintain their reputable domain. It also has the potential for harm in that bad actors may outbid (or wait out) a non-profit for their domain name, then run profitable scams on the back of the domain names reputation (eventually destroying the domain's reputation and potentially the reputation of the organization that once owned it).

I wonder if copyright or some other "brand protection" strategy could mitigate this but, again, not-for-profits aren't generally the litigious type.

No, you're not being pessimistic. You're bang on the money. Literally.

Uncle Sam demands summary judgment on Snowden memoir: We're not saying it's true, but no one should read it

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Black Helicopters

Uncle Sam...

Points to Assange whilst maintaining eye contact with Snowden and says "How you like them apples?"

RIP Dyn Dynamic DNS :'( Oracle to end Dyn-asty by axing freshly gobbled services, shoving customers into its cloud

DeKrow

Re: Easily replaced

I'm moving to them as well, later than I would have hoped since I only just (accidentally auto-)paid for another two years of Dyn (bad reminder and credential management on my part).

FreeDNS looks like the sort of operation that is ideologically opposed to selling out, and will continue operations as-is for as long as possible.

Swedish court declines to detain Belmarsh prison resident Julian Assange

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Stop

Re: @Jellied Eel - Curious

He was allowed to leave Sweden. He was questioned initially and it was found there was no case to answer. It wasn't until AFTER he left the country that investigations were re-opened and further interviews with Assange were deemed necessary.

This is something a lot of people seem to get wrong in the timeline.

This article has a decent run-down of the timeline and events:

https://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2019-05-27/abuses-show-assange-case-was-never-about-law/

Germany mulls giving end-to-end chat app encryption das boot: Law requiring decrypted plain-text is in the works

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Black Helicopters

Self-Hosted?

What can they do about self-hosted systems? Something like this:

https://blog.cryptoaustralia.org.au/run-your-end-to-end-encrypted-chat-server-matrix-riot/

Sure, there's a chain to follow to find who's running them, or to just get them shutdown or legislate against them so that causal folk are scared off, but "casual folk" aren't the target. There's also "self-hosted as a Tor service" to further obfuscate the trail such that any action by law enforcement will likely be after-the-fact, which appears to be what these new laws are trying to prevent.

Maybe it's just a whittling away of the less technically savvy terrorists. At the very cheap price of the privacy of casual folks online conversations.

Funnily enough, I think the most tech savvy and intelligent terrorists probably moved into "legitimate business" many years ago and are happy with all these draconian new laws that will only work to cement their established positions.

Apple arms web browser privacy torpedo, points it directly at Google's advertising model

DeKrow

Apple Ad-Blocking?

Is there any reason, other than not wanting to REALLY piss off Google and FB, that Apple don't create their own ad-blocking system within Safari?

It'd be a huge end-user-privacy marketing win for them. But then would they also piss off all the marketing execs that make bank from online stalking to the extent that they'd turf their iDevices in protest?

Another side-effect, I suppose, would be that if they can do it in Safari then they can do it system-wide and therefore potentially torpedo all ad-supported apps in the process and decimate their developer base.

How much do Apple, Google and FB depend on each other? Probably just as complex as the US-China relationship. Maybe Apple system-wide ad-blocking would be equivalent to a declaration of war.

Huawei, Huawei. Huawei, Huawei. Feeling hot, hot, hot: US threatens to cut UK from intel sharing over Chinese tech giant

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Thumb Down

Re: @AC ... The real reasons

I love when people do this:

"There is a real reason why the US is doing this."

And then don't go on to explain it. Because all they're doing is blowing hot, smelly air.

Bitcoin drops 7 per cent on New York Attorney General's allegations of $850m fraud by Bitfinex

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Facepalm

Tulips

See title.

"since inception in 2009"

Sigh. If you got lucky, yes, hence the above comparison with lottery tickets.

China still doesn't want iPhones despite Apple slashing prices, say market watchers

DeKrow

+1

Xiaomi A1, had it for a while now, still outstanding as the daily driver, recently got the Android Pie (9) update. $260 at the time (140 quid)

What today links Gmail, Google Drive, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram – apart from being run by monopolistic personal data harvesters?

DeKrow
Big Brother

NSA Upgrades

Just the NSA upgrading their infrastructure, nothing to see here.

We can do this the easy way or the Huawei, US tells Germany with threat to snip intel over 5G fears

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Facepalm

Logic fail

Fact:

The US is threatening to stop information sharing if <5-eyes country> (Germany in this instance) uses Huawei kit.

Inference:

If <5-eyes country> doesn't already know what the US knows in order to be making such threatening statements, then there's already a certain amount of information sharing that ISN'T taking place.

Conclusion:

The information sharing that the US is threatening to prevent isn't worth keeping in the first place if it hasn't flagged giant Chinese network hardware vendor as a threat.

Disclaimer:

The above is assuming that everything being said in public is wholly truthful and transparent. Which it never is. However, this doesn't make it any more forgivable that they're saying such illogical things in public. That, in itself, means they're already caught in a lie.

No yoke: 'Bored' Aussie test pilot passes time in the cockpit by drawing massive knobs in the air

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Coat

Fixed that for you

KEEP DONG IT!!!!!!

Europe-style 5G standards testing? Consistent definitions? Who the fsck wants that, asks US mobe industry

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Black Helicopters

Tangentially related

So, US companies started the whole globalization thing by using cheap labor in China to manufacture their wares and see them for US-scale prices and make gigantic profits off the backs of, effectively, slave labor in other countries. Over the years this has resulted in the decline of manufacturing in any country with higher-than-the-lowest wage rates, giving these low wage countries both control of manufacturing and possession of the best knowledge of the everything to do with manufacturing processes.

When it comes to consumers trying to do the same thing as the cheap-labor companies, purchasing in markets cheaper than the US, we get region-locked DVDs , laws against counterfeiting (even when the clothing comes off the same line), and excess branded stock being burnt / shredded to "protect brand integrity".

When it comes to these countries that have been, for years, doing the manufacturing of goods for companies based in other countries actually manufacturing goods for companies based in their own country, and therefore not needing the profit margins of high-wage countries, the US Government goes straight to "National Security".

I mean, technically, I think it is a National Security risk, but for reasons of the future economic stability of the US, not for "hack the planet" reasons.

The US acts in its own economic interests. Everything else is secondary. What the US is saying, however, is to give the impression that their motives are more honorable than "give us money, not them". This isn't necessarily "wrong", as most countries probably act in the same way, it just happens that the US are the ones shouting from the rooftops at the moment.

Why does that website take forever to load? Clues: Three syllables, starts with a J, rhymes with crock of sh...

DeKrow

I was going to post the same thing.

"Sites need revenue, and the threat of ad-blockers in some cases actually makes the situation worse for the rest of users by triggering convoluted workaround logic and complex disguising of ads that increase script execution time."

Hulce has his argument all arse about face in many ways. Assuming a site needs revenue, assuming that ads are a decent source of revenue, assuming javascript is necessary for ads, ignoring the issue of tracking and user-privacy and the well-documented issue of ads having been used as malware vectors (even outside of the tracking and privacy invasion issue).

Maybe, even as an ex-Google employee, those assumptions just come naturally.

Not blocking ads on the Internet is like unsafe sex in the 80's.

Amazon triples profit to $11.2bn, pays ZERO DOLLARS in corp tax – instead we pay it $129m

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Mushroom

The example being set...

With more and more of these large companies and high level politicians being exposed (Panama, Paradise Papers) as using as many techniques as possible to avoid paying appropriate taxes and shifting money through various offshore tax havens, there are two things that bother me:

1. These are people and companies held up to be respected and act as examples to the general populace as to how to behave. Unlike economics, this WILL have an actual trickle down effect.

2. This leads towards an "if you can, then do" attitude, no matter the legality or morality. It basically justifies outright thievery. You failed to secure it, so you lose ownership of it.

Failure to bring world leadership to heel is encouragement to the rest of the populace to seek their own methods of advantage.

Tech sector unites in attempt to avoid Oz's anti-crypto push, again

DeKrow

No global precedent, except maybe in China

For me, the thing that's most obviously concerning about "their" rush to get this thing through, is that it's unprecedented.

Australia, that doesn't want to lead the world by implementing a country-wide fiber to the home network infrastructure.

Australia, that doesn't want to lead the world in renewable energy despite it's abundance of wide-open spaces and sunshine.

Australia, that hasn't had terror attacks anywhere near the scale of those in the US, UK, or Europe, wants to implement unprecedented legislation "in a hurry".

Something's fishy. Be it copyright, or setting precedent in lil' ol' Australia so that other western countries can follow the lead, or creating Australia as the funnel through which the rest of the 5-eyes can siphon their requests, or as some WW3 anti-China / Russia preparation, I don't know. But it ain't the safety of Australia's citizens that's the concern of this Government.

OpenStack 2018: Mark Shuttleworth chats to The Reg about 10-year support plans, Linus Torvalds and Russian rockets

DeKrow

Re: "the guy ... who engineered machines to beat Gary Kasparov"

Are your passwords similarly formatted to your usernames?

Russia: We did not hack the US Democrats. But if we did, we're immune from prosecution... lmao

DeKrow

Always blaming everyone else

Given the corruption inherent in US politics, it's almost comical that they're trying to blame Russia for influence. So much more anti-social influence comes from the biggest, most successful, economy-supporting companies within the country itself because there are no rules to make campaign donations and lobbying more transparent. Unfortunately, this is unlikely to change because it's the people who would be able to make these rules that are benefitting from their absence.

On my to-watch list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Money_(film)

Oz telcos' club asks: Why the hell do Australia Post, rando councils, or Taxi Services Commission want comms metadata?

DeKrow

Re: Some did

And the anti-encryption proposal is currently following precisely the same path.

Short time for public comment, plenty of expert commentary arguing against it, zero acknowledgement of said expert commentary. The next and last stage is for it to be passed.

The Green's will object, but Labor, oh-so-disappointingly and confusingly, will not. Although it's not confusing because Labor are just another "big political party" full of power-hungry control-freaks that WANT this, as per the current government.

DeKrow

Re: if they got your communications, they don't need you

What's this "too much" you speak of?

Zim Zam Zim! (not 70's, but, well, you'll get the idea if you get the idea...)

Macs to Linux fans: Stop right there, Penguinista scum, that's not macOS. Go on, git outta here

DeKrow

Why Linux on Apple Hardware?

What reasons do people have for purchasing expensive Apple hardware to then go and install Linux on it?

One of the reasons I've heard for the justification of the inflated Apple pricing is that it buys you into the convenient, interoperable Apple ecosystem.

Surely, if you want to run Linux, and have a budget that stretches to an Apple laptop, it would also cover a range of both more powerful and at least nearly-as-stylish non-Apple laptops.

Dual-booting is the only option that makes sense to me. Needing the Apple ecosystem on one hand, but also the flexibility of Linux on the other.

Ad blocking. All fun and games – until it gets political: Union websites banned by uBlock Origin

DeKrow

Allow versus Deny

So, how far away from the tipping point where 'allow' lists will overtake 'deny' lists in their maintainability?

For my individual purposes an 'allow' list would be perfect and contain very few domains. I think the 'state of decay' of the Internet means it's time to impose this upon the rest of the household. One member, however, will NOT give up their Facebook. Already, there are two very difficult conversations in the pipeline.

Oz to turn pirates into vampires: You won't see their images in mirrors

DeKrow

Upvote because Frank Zappa was right, and things haven't changed.

The song "Trouble Every Day" was released in 1966 and its lyrics are still pertinent 50 years (50 YEARS!!!) later.

DeKrow

Re: whack a mole time again

@Secta_Protecta

Dr. Kerryn Phelps

DeKrow

Re: "official release stuff 6-8 months behind everyone else"

I get your point, which is the real "big picture".

However, in the "small picture" in which most proles live, there's no reason, in a world of digital streaming and bandwidth enough to for smooth 1080p video, that digital entertainment be delayed into any market other than profit maximisation strategies due to artificial scarcity - or just the complete lack of consideration for a market so small as Australia.

Both of the above options invite copyright infringement in a connected world where even a few days' delay means you're late to a global conversation.

To reiterate, however, the big picture view is: who gives a fuck? Do something more worthwhile than watching the latest episode of <won't learn anything new about life, but will pass the otherwise excruciating time in which I'd be wondering what to do with myself>.

Eat my shorts, watchdog tells every city mayor in the US – FCC approves $2bn 5G telco windfall

DeKrow
Mushroom

Quoting Zappa!?

It's almost worse that he's quoting Zappa in such a context. Zappa was fiercely anti-corporate-bullshit (Joe's Garage). Pai has crossed two lines at once. He's zombie-walked into historic reputational suicide.

MI5: Gosh, awkward. We looked down the sofa and, yeah, we *do* have intel on privacy bods

DeKrow

It's not terrorism if win.

It's not terrorism if you're in power.

US cities react in fury to FCC's $2bn break for 5G telcos: We'll be picking up the tab, say officials

DeKrow

Re: Money, Money, Money

In Australia, media barons fight over who should be Prime Minister, and Rupert Murdoch wins:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-18/liberal-leadership-spill-rupert-murdoch-kerry-stokes-influence/10262552

Renegade 3D-printing gunsmith Cody Wilson on the run in Taipei from child sex allegations

DeKrow

Re: I'm of two minds about this

> I don't think the US REALLY cares about 3D printing of guns though

Think about it as precedent. The ultra-powerful NRA manages to maintain the status quo even against mass shootings in schools. The NRA maintains it's power due to LOTS AND LOTS of guns being sold in the US. Once 3D printing matures a bit, and more reliable, bigger, more powerful handguns and rifles can be 3D-printed, then LOTS AND LOTS of guns will be getting 3D-printed rather than sold. A gun itself can't be downloaded from the internet, but blueprints can, and blueprints can be copyright-infringed.

This will eat at the heart of the happy marriage of capitalism and gun ownership that forms a part of US culture.

I think the US cares about the 3D printing of guns more than it may seem. They'll try to contain it as long as they can, but restricting the 3D printing of guns at the same time as not changing any other gun laws is hypocrisy that won't stand up to the Constitution (rightly or wrongly).

Oz government rushes its anti-crypto legislation into parliament

DeKrow

Re: cryption? Nah, mate, don't need it... I've got a Donk!

The fact that Australia was chosen as the the first country of the 5-eyes to try and implement this, means that Australia is already pwned.

DeKrow
Coat

21st Century Australian Democracy

Is summed up best in this article and all that it reveals:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-18/liberal-leadership-spill-rupert-murdoch-kerry-stokes-influence/10262552

Mine's the one with the interplanetary passport.

Microsoft: You don't want to use Edge? Are you sure? Really sure?

DeKrow
Holmes

Stealthily

"adverts continuing to stealthily make their way into the operating system"

Stealthily like a fart in an elevator populated by two people.

So, I'm running Windows 10 unlicensed. I wasn't sure if the "stealthy" advertising was their way of monetising an unlicensed installation. Seems not. Makes me glad I haven't paid for the privilege of receiving unsolicited advertising at least.

I see Desktop Linux has moved closer than the horizon it occupied for a couple of decades.

We're all sick of Fortnite, but the flaw found in its downloader is the latest way to attack Android

DeKrow

Same thing can, and does, happen with apps downloaded from the store, including apps authored by Google itself. Which was one of the points of this whole article.

Epic's avoidance of the app store is not the issue here except for the argument, counter to yours, that being on the app store implies security.

Ah, um, let's see. Yup... Fortnite CEO is still mad at Google for revealing security hole early

DeKrow

When elephants fight, it is the grass that suffers

Disclosing the details of the vulnerability seems inconsistent with their statement:

“User security is our top priority..."

With the popularity of the game it would be more "user security" orientated to state that there WAS an issue that's now fixed, but save the technical details, that allow exploits to be developed by bad actors, for a good while longer than a 7-day grace period.

"The security of users that perform at least weekly updates of all their software are our top priority"

Kinda niche compared to their actual statement.

Pentagon 'do not buy' list says нет to Russia, 不要 to Chinese code

DeKrow

Re: Security *And* Protectionism

When considering A) and B) always be aware of NSA's proven activities.

Excluding the good ol' US of A from your list of 'criminal nations' is blatantly choosing sides. They're all at it, and it's been done in analogue meatspace for a lot longer than it's been going on over the internet.

What's happening now is that their activities are butting up against the complex web of nation inter-dependence that globalisation and manufacturing outsourcing has caused, and the fact that the Internet is a globally shared infrastructure between the largest most powerful nations, militaries and companies as well as great-grandma Elizabeth. Which means it has millions of weak links that can be exploited. Billions once the (id)IoT uptake reaches critical mass.

Too tempting for any government that thinks its spooks are above the law (hint: that's all of them).

UK spies broke law for 15 years, but what can you do? shrugs judge

DeKrow
Pirate

The example that the Government sets...

Is the standard to which the people should aspire.

How many ways to get what you want

I use the best

I use the rest.

I use the enemy

I use anarchy.

'Cause I wanna be Anarchy.

Is this the M.P.L.A. or

Is this the U.D.A. or

Is this the I.R.A.?

I thought it was the U.K.

Sir, you've been using Kaspersky Lab antivirus. Please come with us, sir

DeKrow

Re: Я невиновен, товарищ!

"Until then, I'll take NSA's word for it."

Why not take no-one's word for it? They've all got axes to grind one way or another. Assume the NSA / US Government are making some kind of play, but also that Kaspersky aren't as white as the driven snow. Taking the NSA's word for it will drive you towards other AV vendors, which may be more malleable towards the desires of said NSA.

However, if you're a dyed-in-the-wool, blind-and-deaf-to-criticism US patriot, then continue on your merry way.

Also, someone mentioned in the comments to a previous article that Kaspersky had offered their code for confirmation to the appropriate folks.

Citation needed: Europe claims Kaspersky wares 'confirmed as malicious'

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Black Helicopters

Kaspersky off the leash

This is the problem:

"Kaspersky Lab has only ever tried to rid the world of cybercrime. We have showed time and again that we disclose cyber threats regardless of origin and author, even to our own detriment."

Kaspersky weren't controllable by US interests, so the US started banning them and cranking the rumour mill into action. The UK, Australia, and now the EU singing from the same hymn sheet.

I think it was initially started when Kaspersky detected a piece of US-authored malware as a result of someone taking their work home, and their home computer sent the sample file to Kaspersky's servers for deeper scanning of a new potential threat (which, I believe, is standard practice for most modern anti-virus software).

Refer:

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/12/nsas_on_drugs_infosec_bods_unveil_space_grade_malware/

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/11/16/kaspersky_nsa_staffers_pc_was_riddled_with_malware_from_pirated_code/

FBI's flawed phone tally blamed on programming error. 7,800 unbreakable mobes? Er, um...

DeKrow
Holmes

Things that don't suprise me

1. Political pronouncements based on FUD not fact

2. A Government entity is requesting something mathematically impossible (see #1)

3. A Government entity that's requesting something mathematically impossible would stoop to lying (see #1)

4. A Government entity can't count

5. A Government entity doesn't have a system good enough to be able to find the number of encrypted devices involved in their open cases.

Maybe, before asking for impossible things, they should have systems that provide accurate info. But then, maybe, that's also an impossible thing.

Academics: Shutting down Facebook API damages research, oversight, competition

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Megaphone

Burnt down, fell over, then sank into the swamp

If their research depends so heavily upon Facebook, then already their research will be skewed / flawed / biased due to the self-selection (voluntary or otherwise) of the "Facebook population". This is in addition to the ickiness of associating oneself so closely to Facebook that, even after ALL THIS, they're effectively defending the practices.

Systemic Privacy Violations > Facebook > Research (or maybe, more correctly "Research")

Additionally, putting Research as their first reason means the other reasons they don't really care about. Maybe they were, ironically, doing research into privacy violations. If that's the case, they should be happy that Facebook's raison d'etre has been brought to light.

University research and university researchers should be better than this.

Just noticed this too: "30 internet academics". Hahaha, Internet "academics". Fuck 'em.

ZTE now stands for 'zero tech exports' – US govt slaps 7-year ban on biz

DeKrow

Re: "...ZTE...cut off....from American manufacturers."

I was thinking along the same lines, what's stopping them from setting up a separate company to purchase the goods from the US, and then on-sell them to ZTE.

Isn't that what a US company would do? (in order to keep being able to sell arms to Iran and North Korea)

Capitalism, HO!

UK spy agency warns Brit telcos to flee from ZTE gear

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Trollface

Re: Irony Abounds

You're absolutely correct.

The Australian Signals Directorate (ASD) mission statement is:

"Reveal their secrets, protect our own"

I like how they put the aggressive part first as if that's their priority. I don't know how "common citizens" are supposed to be expected to follow the rule of law when their own governmental agencies have mission statements such as this. I wanna be arseholes like those guys!

Australian Feds cuff woman who used BTC to buy drugs on dark web

DeKrow
Facepalm

Where digital and meatspace intersect

This is a fine example of why all the crypto backdooring talk is redundant (not to mention stupid, but that's a separate argument).

The big old major crimes cannot be committed purely in the digital realm. Drug deals involve something in physical existence (assuming Snow Crash doesn't exist yet), as do the various elements of terrorism (lone crazy or organised group), child abuse, murder, rape.

Meatspace is where the insecurities lie, and this is where law enforcement should put its focus, which is likely what happened in this case. Darkweb this, bitcoin that. Pfft.

The only crimes that are purely digital are the Gen Z's such as corporate data theft (old crime but dressed up modern), identity theft, carding, etc. Strangely, these aren't the ones being mentioned when discussing encryption backdoors or "going dark", and the whole lack of regulation, and seeming desire to regulate, on IoT will only make these kinds of attacks more frequent and have greater impact.

They're not just putting the cart before the horse, they're putting the horse in the cart, then pushing the cart themselves.

Exposed: Lazy Android mobe makers couldn't care less about security

DeKrow

I'm hoping to take delivery of an Android One device some time this week. I'll get back to you in a couple of years as to its on-going support.

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