Re: Here be snowflakes...
The world did not tick along fine before without banana laws. Hard though it may be to believe, the EU countries had multiple different banana laws. And, yes, we did spend a lot of money thinking about jam, but then the question of whether a jaffa cake is a biscuit was entirely an issue for UK law.
"This again returns to the stupidity argument. For you to claim we would need them (US, EU whoever) is to claim we are not capable ourselves. "
No it is to claim that we do not have the organisations to do this. And, in many cases, we do not have the people because they work for the EU currently. So, it's not about stupidity, but cost. These bodies will have to be replicated, de novo.
"To save a currency they sacrificed countries"
Yes, this is largely true.
"the Brexit vote seemed to demonstrate their lack of plan"
Well, the EU has much less need of a plan to cope with Brexit than the UK does since, while it will have consequences for them, they will be less than for the UK.
"are you suggesting the EU will go to war with us"
An ex-tory party leader has already suggested that we will go to war with Spain. It's easy to be glib about war, and laugh it off, but it happens, and has happened recently in Europe. Do I think leaving the EU will result in war? No. More possible, though, yes.
"Or are you trying to claim again that the UK population isnt competent nor capable of coping in that big bad scary world you fear?"
No, I am saying that international cooperation is not option but a necessity. Withdrawing from an organisation that enables that cooperation is going to cause enormous disruption, and when we are finished we will have to replace it without something like we have now, except that we will the minor partner. So, it's going to be expensive, disruptive and leave us in a politically weaker position.
Will we survive. Yes.