* Posts by lglethal

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Googlers to flood social media with tales of harassment in bid to end forced arbitration

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My thoughts...

I think they are saying Vendor/Contract staff are not made aware of the policies on "safety, discrimination and sexual misconduct". That means if they suffer discrimination or harrassment, they dont know what to do about it, and are expected to suffer in silence. I assume on that account they just want those staff to receive info about the policies (probably in the company handout they give new employees), so that if they suffer these things, they know who to report it to.

Not so difficult to understand, but a bit confusing when they've rolled it in to their complaints about forced arbitration...

Cops told: No, you can't have a warrant to force a big bunch of people to unlock their phones by fingerprint, face scans

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The specific problem in this case was that whilst the cops have two suspects, the fuzz wanted the right to look at EVERY device in the building including those not related to the suspect. That is ridiculous overeach and the judge quite rightly shut it down.

As for your comment about not opening your safe, you are under no obligation to open your safe just because police ask. If police want to open a safe, they need a warrnat and then to call in the relevant authority in opening the device (a locksmith, etc). Why should it be any different for a phone?

Poland may consider Huawei ban amid 'spy' arrests – reports

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“this incident has brought Huawei into disrepute”.

Yes, how dare you get caught!!!

It's the weekend. We're out of puns for now. Just have a gander at China's Moon lander and robo-sidekick snaps, videos

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Re: 21st century employment prospects in space? - human redundancy

Just because the ISS doesnt get any major publicity doesnt mean it's not producing great science:

here's a short highlight of things they're working on now:

https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/research/news/SSSH_17dec18

If you cant be bothered reading that (it's not that long!), there's experiments on the effect of space flight on humans (strength, grip/agility, and immune system testing), experiments to research into asthma and other airway/lung disease, experiments into loss of bone density (as experienced by millions of the elderly world wide), research into compounds that cause parkinsons disease, research into aerogels and their ability effectiveness to be a healing patch. Plus a number of others. Go read the article.

None of those experiments could be done by robots alone. The ISS does a ton of great science, arguably more than sending another probe to have a look at a dead rock we've already visited 30 years ago. But because it's slow and steady research it doesnt get the excitement factor and thus the publicity. Have a look into some of those experiments in detail and you'll see they are very interesting and offer a lot of potential for making people on Earth's lives much better.

The ISS deserves all the funding it can get (and more)!

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Is China using the same moon landing set in Arizona as NASA? It looks far too similar to be coincidence! Or is this another one of those things Trump says China are stealing? Coming in and stealing the plans of NASA's moon landing set, its just despicable ain't it? Taking all of America's hard work faking the Moon Landings and here they are pretending they've landed on the Moon as well. Disgraceful!

Brit hacker hired by Liberian telco to nobble rival now behind bars

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Sentences for white collar crimes really are soft

If a thief broke into a house and stole a Rembrandt worth a few million or lets say some bank robbers broke into a bank after hours and stole a few million from the safe. Without violence or much in the way of property damage, they would still be looking at 5-10 years hard time minimum. This guy from the safety of his own home caused millions of dollars in damage to a telco, inconvenienced hundreds of thousands of customers, took down the internet for an entire country, AND is implicated in similar attacks on other firms (including banks) and he gets less than 3 years.

I guess the lesson is, If you're going to be a criminal, be a white collar ciminal...

Dozens of .gov HTTPS certs expire, webpages offline, FBI on ice, IT security slows... Yup, it's day 20 of Trump's govt shutdown

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Re: Just an idea

I think you're over stating the case. If the Democrats rely on Ms Ocasio-Cortez voting in parliament, then they will see to it that she has somewhere to stay in DC. She can crouch surf at one of the richer politicians places, without a doubt.

But my question would be, why shouldnt she (or any other politician) be disadvantaged, when they are disadvantaging 800,000 regular government workers? I dont see the politicians gathering around to offer funding/housing for these people to survive the month without pay. Only the polticians can solve this problem, those 800,000 cant (at least not until the next election, but thats 2 years away).

When someon you know is seen to be struggling because of something you're doing, you are more likely to try and fix it. That 800,000 are a faceless number to the Senators and Congressmen/women. but make them see a fellow Senator/Congressman/woman struggling and suddenly their's a much more human face on the suffering you're causing, and that would lead to a much faster compromise....

(on a side note: 800,000 people being furloughed is an insane number. Think about this, the population of the US is ~325 million (source Wikipedia). So effectively 1 in every 400 people in the US is currently furloughed. not 1 in 400 workers. 1 in every 400 people! According to statista.com there are ~130 million full time employees in the US, and i think its safe to say the vast majority of government workers would count as full time employees, so that works out at 1 in every 160 full time employees in the US is furloughed. That is f%&king insane!)

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Re: Just an idea

And those without private incomes will become the voices of reason to push for any shutdown to end.

At the very least, even if all of the politicians are rich enough to survive without their pay, at least they're not being rewarded for severely hurting regular government workers.

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Re: A very odd way of working...

I wasnt having a go at you Timmy, but I was expecting a sh*t ton of comments along the lines of, "yeah they had way more. it's disgraceful, never happened before for a republican, its not trumps fault, yadda yadda".

Just thought I'd get the numbers in place, so it was clear this is not a new thing, although the lengths have on average been getting longer...

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Re: A very odd way of working...

Just to add some facts to the discussion-

Clinton had the longest shutdown in history 21 days. (Trump will beat that if this one lasts 2 more days). He also had a 5 day shutdown.

Obama had a single 16 day shutdown.

Bush Jnr suprisingly didnt have a shutdown

Bush Snr had a single 3 day shutdown

Reagen had 8 shutdowns! Ranging in size from 1 days to 3 days (total 14 days). He pretty much had one Every single year of his presidency!

Trump has so far had 3 shutdowns (in only 2 years!), 1 day, 3 days and currently 20 days. He's 2 shutdown days short of equalling Clinton's total shutdowns over 8 years, in just 2 years.

(Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46827555 - scroll down a bit and you'll see the table)

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Re: Just an idea

Even if it is "gesture politics" (although i challenge you to name any act in politics which wouldnt fit the defintion of "gesture politics"!), a policy that means Senators and Congressmen/women dont get paid whilst there's a government shutdown, would act as a strong incentive for them not to allow a government shutdown in the future. Because Senators and Congressmen/women are, by definition, greedy twats.

Hit them where it hurts, their wallets, and they wont allow that to happen again!

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Just an idea

If the Democrats wanted to win a ton of support right now, they should pass a law in the House of Representatives that says, whilst there is an unapproved budget that causes any government staff to be furloughed, all House of Representatives, Senate and White House members, staff, aides, etc. cannot be paid their government salaries.

If it fails in the Senate, the uproar at the Republican Senators being unwilling to feel the pain of the 800,000 government workers currently feeling pain, would drive a lot of people away from them and the Democrats would now be the champions of the people.

If it passes in the Senate, and Trump blocks it, then Trump would no longer be the man of the people, and the Republicans would need to distance themselves from him.

And if Trump actually passed it, then I can guarantee that their would be a much greater desire to find a compromise solution. After all, it would be costing all those Senators and Congressmen/women money. And we cant have that now can we?

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Re: Comparison

@ Steve: Something to keep in mind - Trump was elected making the promise of building the wall. At the time he was elected, The Republicans (HIS party), were in control of the House of Representatives and the Senate. So they had all 3 branches of elected government, and they did not create funding for the wall. They didnt really push too hard for it either at that point.

Then, there was the mid-term elections - and the Democrats won the house of representatives (quite convincingly). They did this by campaigning AGAINST the building of the wall (and a lot of other policies naturally, but there NOT building a wall was one of the key democrat promises). Since they were elected and won a strong majority on this point, why should they support/approve something that the Republicans had 2 years to get through and failed. Their election promises to the people have to be respected as well.

Cops: German suspect, 20, 'confessed' to mass hack of local politicians

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CDU right wing - ahh what?

Others pointed out that right-wing politicians (including Chancellor Angela Merkel's own Christian Democrat Union political party) had been targeted.

Ummm, I'd hardly call the CDU right wing. Centre-Right at the most. Hell, if the CDU is right wing, the Conservatives must be far right! And where would that put the American Democrats and Republicans? Extreme-Right and Ludicrous-Right?

(OK from a eurocentric point of views those probably are the correct descriptions for american parties... :P)

More nodding dogs green-light terrible UK.gov pr0n age verification plans

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Re: Just like buying a magazine.

but there is another side.

Yes, its called parental responsibility. If your kids are using your internet you should be monitoring what they're using it for. If they manage to find porn, you should be talking about it to them. You do not make it a taboo, which is about the quickest way to make something attractive to children, and you sure as shit do not passs your responsibilities in teaching and raising your children to a third party institution with all of the caring and subtlety of a brick (ie the govermnent)...

Um, I'm not that Gary, American man tells Ryanair after being sent other Gary's flight itinerary

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Re: Me too

... and have no business in any of those places.

Ahhh me he thinks he doth protest too much...

UK white hats blacklisted by Cisco Talos after smart security code stumbles

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It wasnt a mistake...

The AI's dont like competition from the flesh sacks...

Supernovae may explain mass extinctions of marine animals 2.6 million years ago

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Re: Interesting, but radiation killing through water?

I did not think of the Plankton level of the food chain. Thanks for pointing that out, that makes a lot of sense! Thats why i come to El Reg - insightful, reasoned comments.

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Interesting, but radiation killing through water?

I thought water was supposed to be an excellent protector against radiation? So was there something special about this particular radiation event (or were the levels just so high) that they negated the protective qualities of the water?

If this was a mass extinction of land animals I'd believe it in a second, but under water, hmmm. The figure I've found online is that you halve the level of radiation for every 7cm of water it passes through. To kill off underwater creatures that dont need to surface (like whales and dolphins), that must have been one hell of a radiation event, wouldnt it?

NASA names the date for the first commercial crew demo flight

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"Ahh so your more of a crumpet man..."

This ain't over, Viasat snarls as tribunal rules in satellite rival's favour

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Not sure if i followed this article correctly...

My reading of the article was along the following lines, can someone confirm i have it right?

So, Europe decides to create a framework for an EU wide Satellite access network for aircraft. As part of that Ofcom provides a tender for a UK wide network at 2GHz which Inmarsat wins. Viasat doesnt even apply.

After Inmarsat starts selling a service which then competes with Viasat, Viasat sues Ofcom under the principle that Ofcom didnt have the rights to sell a UK wide network. I assume this is because Viasat expected the network to be sold off at european level rather than national level. They lost that case, appealed and have now had this appeal also rejected.

If i have that correct, then either Viasat didnt pay attention to how the plan to build the EU network was created (i.e. each nation opening a tender) and made an assumption it would be done at the european level, OR it was communicated that there would be a single EU wide tender and they were waiting for that, in which case their fight shouldnt really be with Ofcom but with the false communication from the relevant EU body. OR (and probably more likely), they didnt think anyone else could come up with a competing product, and so didnt bother to get involved until after their competition was already in the game and had spent a ton of money. That last one is definitely the American way...

Have i got this all correct or am i missing sometihng?

The internet is going to hell and its creators want your help fixing it

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"The internet is going to hell"? Going? I think we've been there for a while already, it's just taken a while for people to realise the water is hotter then they actually like...

OSIRIS-REx space probe catches a whiff of water on asteroid Bennu

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Re: Still a mystery?

So when its raining, we're getting pissed on from a great height?

Expired cert... Really? #O2down meltdown shows we should fear bungles and bugs more than hackers

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Re: Counting MNOs is hard

Technically you're right, but we can all see how well thats worked out with National Rail and its maintenance/care of the nationwide rail infrastructure...

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Re: Painter's 2nd Law of IT - Fixed it for you...

If an IT organisation has to manage something that can expire and must be renewed then it follows that it shall, at some point expire without having been renewed at the worst possible moment.

Certificates always expire at the time when a) the responsible IT bod is on annual leave, or b) there has been a change in management/HR/re-organisation such that no-one is sure who is responsible for the certificates or who can approve paying for their renewal, or c) just after a major IT upgrade, so everyone thinks that the failure is due to the new equipment. Other options are also available...

Tech support discovers users who buy the 'sh*ttest PCs known to Man' struggle with basics

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Re: It's 2018

If people don't know how to use a computer by now, they shouldn't even be in the workplace.

My dad cant use a computer to save his life. He's only just got his first smart phone. But guess what he's an auto electrician - why the hell would he need to learn how to use a computer to be part of the workforce?

Not everyone needs to use a computer. muppet...

Huawei CFO poutine cuffs by Canadian cops after allegedly busting sanctions on Iran

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Re: China is not a democracy

On the other hand, China is not the one shouting from the roof tops that they're the protector if Freedom and Democracy(tm) either.

Neither is Sweden, but I know which one I'd prefer to live in...

<rant>(Why does everyone equate Democracy and America, it bloody well isnt and we all know it. Why not equate democracy with a real bloody one - Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Australia, for feks sake...) </end rant>

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Re: China is not a democracy

Actually fajensen they do do "Extraordinary Rendition" - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-17/hong-kong-bookseller-who-disappeared-from-thailand-held-in-china

In case you cant be bothered reading the article but that was a Hong Kong man grabbed from Thailand. There are plenty of other cases as well, from all over Asia. At least so far, I havent heard of any one being grabbed from the West, but its probably happened.

They also do hold foreign nationals without trial in China - read the 2nd article i posted in the previous post. All 3 of the family were travelling on American passports and Vincent Liu is an American and has never had chinese citizenship or a chinese passport.

Oh and Russia is quite happy bombing the sh*t out of Syria with impunity, and the West hasnt really done too much crying out except to moan at backing the losing side. So they've already pretty much done that. And China is happily building military bases on disputed islands in the South China Sea in order to threaten any of its neighbours that get uppity.

China is just as bad as any western nation when it comes to being hypocritical bastards on the world stage, but I'll still take having a world where democracy is in the majority, because in a democracy there are at least mechanisms for checks and balances. In the dictatorships of the World what the dictator declares goes...

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Re: China is not a democracy

As it is: China can't put me on a no-fly list, mess with my SWIFT transfers or send me off to 'indefinite detention' with free water-treatment in some secret 3'rd world military base.

umm what? China has well documented "Black prisons" where people are taken away and denied access to lawyers and the like. Often for indefinite periods. They also have the "reeducation centres" in Xinjiang where they basically imprison anyone in Xinjiang who even looks at a han chinese. (https://www.bbc.com/news/resources/idt-sh/China_hidden_camps)

They can also deny people the leave to fly out of China even if there not Chinese citizens.

(https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-46352336)

China can do all those things and a lot worse. So whatever you might think of western democracy, it's a hell of a lot better on the rights department then China.

I do find it hilarious that china is saying arresting Meng Wanzhou is a rights abuse. I would love someone to turn around and ask them about Victor and Cynthia Liu (see article above) who arent even accused of a crime but are being held in china anyway. Whats good for the goose, etc...

Falcon 9 gets its feet wet as SpaceX notch up two more launch successes

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An optimistic cynics take

Sea water is amongst the more corrosive natural things you can end up dumping your metallic parts in. I guess a reapplication of whatever protective coating (probably Alodine or equivalent) might work although you probably need to chemically strip off the original damaged coating first, so i doubt its that easy or cheap to do.

But I would imagine catching the fairing before it hit the water would go some way to reducing the impact loading on the part. Impacts into water at high speed hurt quite a bit. Then again, if they think they can still use it even after one landing in water, then I imagine that they believe a net landing would increase the reusability. Sort of along the lines of if the Fairing can survive one landing in water and be reused, then it can survive 2 landing in the net and be reused twice for the same impact loads.

Just throwing ideas out there...

Apple co-founder and former CEO has the most expensive John Hancock on the planet

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wrt to Billy Birmingham

"Hey hey hey! This is a team effort. So come on, lets act as a a team and do it MY way..."

Thought black holes were donut-shaped? It turns out they're more like deadly fountains

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Wait until they find "The Keep Off The Lawn" signs...

Ahhh the scientists finally saw the "Please Dont Play In The Fountain" signs, did they?

NASA's Mars probe InSight really has Mars in sight: It beams back first pic after touchdown

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Think of it this way AC, in the build up to landing you can do a lot of things - course corrections, checking hardware, testing software, run simulations, perform tests on earth, etc. But once the lander hits that atmosphere there is literally NOTHING you can do for it. But wait that 7 minutes and hope all of that testing and simulation was right. If that's not Terrifying for the scientists involved I don't know what is. And it's not just the scientists and engineers involved in the landing, all of the instrument scientists and engineers, are waiting to see if their instruments will survive so that they can do the science they want.

Or why don't I put it this way, insight was first conceived about 10 years ago, it's been under design, construction and testing for 5 years. Its cost 800 million dollars, and there are people who have spent 5-10 years working on this and nothing else and whether or not you've just wasted 10 years of your life comes down to a spacecraft 50 million kms away performing flawlessly a series of actions involving heat shields, parachutes and retro rockets, all autonomously where the slightest fuck up week see all of that hard work down the tube and there is nothing you can do about it. You don't consider that Terrifying? Trust me, when it's your instrument - it fucking well is!!!

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Re: Power?

The solar panels are 2 2.2m diameter solar panels producing about 600W at the start of the mission (which will decrease over time due to dust etc. If I remember correctly it's supposed to drop by about 200W by mission end.

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Re: “If we’re going to send humans there, it’ll be useful to see how often it gets impacted.”

Also HP3 is German and RISE is part Spanish with lots of the science being done in London and Zurich. So this is a very multinational project.

Domain name 'admin' role eyed up as latest victim of Whois system's GDPRmeggdon

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Re: Losing @ mark l 2

Actually, the best way to stop this sort of nonsense is to put the punishment on the lawyers. The threat of being disbarred, should stop most lawyers from pursuing ridiculous appeals.

Oh right, sorry, lawyers are immune from punishment, because they write the laws in the first place. Silly me forgot that.

NASA has Mars InSight as latest lander due to arrive today

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Hi Andy,

The mole works like a jack hammer. Basically inside you have a spring loaded cam that gets loaded up and then releases with a sharp shock that drives the Mole down. The rebound is much slower and is damped by the soil friction along the sides of the Mole (the Mole is long and thin for that reason). This basically means that each stroke down embeds you that little bit further into the soil.

It also means that how fast it is, is highly dependant on what the soil is like. I was one of the designers of the Mole, and believe me we spent ages testing in lots of different soils. The Mole is also powerful enough to scrape along concrete blocks provided it doesn't hit dead on.

As for the cable, it's a special type of electrical flat cable, similar to Kapton tape. Very slippy and it has the added job of collapsing the tunnel afterwards - the cable carries a series of heat sensors which we need in contact with the soil, hence why we do that.

Whilst we did as much testing as possible over the last few years, in vacuum Chambers, in different soils, with rocks and the like buried in the soil, its still impossible to know for certain it will work as planned. Mainly because we have no idea what the Martian soil is actually like. To give an analogy, imagine your are asked to drill a hole in a wall, but your only info about the wall is a picture of the wall with a resolution of 1 pixel per 0.5m^2. What drill bit do you take? A masonry bit because most walls in houses are masonry? What if it happens to be steel or wood? What feeds and speeds do you run the drill at? That's basically what we're dealing with with insight

- attempting the difficult in the face of the unknown - fingers crossed!

Peers to HMRC: Digital tax reforms 3 days after Brexit? Hold your horses, how 'bout 3 years...

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Re: Nope

since the s/w I use to create the values in the VAT return boxes is my brain :)

Bah, that will never catch on...

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if i read the article correctly, you earn under 85k on your VAT taxable items (or however you want to call it), so you dont need to change anything...

So dont stress... ;)

Dawn of the dead: NASA space probe runs out of gas in asteroid belt after 6.4 billion-mile trip

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Re: This seems like a good argument for ion drives

Ion drives unfortunately are pretty useless for the quick thrust you need for orientation and positioning purposes. Ion drives are fantastic for slow but steady acceleration - movement between planets (or Protoplanets in this case) is a perfect case and that's what was used on Dawn. But for orientation it's too little thrust to achieve in any sort of useful time frame the desired results.

To offer an example, your currently doing science pointing instruments at ceres. But you need to change orientation to point the antennas at earth to deliver that science data. With hydrazine thrusters that's work of maybe 15 minutes. Say the transmission takes another 15,and another 15 to get back into science orientation. You've lost at most 45 mins of science time. With ion thrusters you would need at least 2 hour to change orientation in one direction (probably more) and so for the same action you've lost 4 hours 15 mins science days. If you have to do this every day that's 3,5 hours of science time per day lost. The mission will need to be massively longer to account for all of that missing science data. And that means you need more fuel for the ion thrusters, etc, etc. And in the end it just works out way more difficult to do it with ion thrusters. Not to mention the orbital calculations to work out how long you need to apply the ion thrusters for to get into the correct orientation position when you're talking reaction time frames measured in hours. If you under or overshoot with hydrazine, it's a quick fix, just squirt some more with ion you've got another couple of hours to wait.

Hope that explains a bit why we still use chemical thrusters for orientation instead of ion thrusters. :)

Roscosmos: An assembly error doomed our Soyuz, but we promise it won't happen again

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Re: I can't get the sensor to fit

It's all well and good to say that but if you do any job a hundred times it stops being a special job, it just becomes step 7b of job 256. And you've got 4 more jobs to do before the end of the day or the boss is going to get pissy with you. And this bloody bracket, which you've complained about half a dozen times but no one listens, is not going in easily. So you just take your hammer and get it to fit easy as pie. And move on to step 7c.

This is how cock ups like this happen. Because people are more worried about the pressure they'll get from managers for missing a deadline. Their manager is a more immediate problem then some future potential problem for some astronauts they'll never meet.

To avoid this, you really need a culture in the workplace where problems and delays are dealt with properly and no blame is put on the worker when they occur. It sounds very much like Roscosmos does not currently have that culture...

Woman who hooked up with over 15 spectres has found her forever phantom after whirlwind romance and plane sex

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Hey it worked for Saint Teresa!

Pain in the brain! Kaspersky warns of hackable brain implants

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I don't know why, but my first thought was along the lines of "ahhh, so that's what happened to John McAffee"... ;)

Uncool: Google won't be setting up shop in disused Berlin electrical substation

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@ big_D

A stat i read on BBC (of all places) said that Kreuzberg is suffering from around 70% rent inflation (Berlin is more generally around 40%).

Berlin's not the only place, its happening all over Germany - Bremen's gone ridiuclous, Augsburg impossible to buy (but still suprisingly affordable on rent), and München has always been insane. Crazy times...

London flatmate (Julian Assange) sues landlord (government of Ecuador) in human rights spat

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Re: So he DOES respect the law!

It should be funny. The court says that he has to be in there person, or give testimony over video link. Oh look, his internet access is blocked and he's holed up in the Ecuadorean Embassy in London. Well sorry, thats cased dismissed right there...

Yale Security Fail: 'Unexpected load' caused systems to crash, whacked our Smart Living Home app

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Re: Let this be a lesson

...IoT is an answer waiting for a sensible question.

How about "how to transfer money from someone's pocket into the pocket of a slimy snake oil salesman's in the modern world?"

Take my advice: The only safe ID is a fake ID

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Re: Terrance

My best mate (and best man at my wedding) goes by an abbreviation of his surname. It's what he introduces himself as and everyone knows him by. I'd known him for almost an entire year before i even found out his real name...

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Re: Irish names in Irish or English.

My grandfather had shares in a race horse called Richard Cranium. It never one a cent but my grandfather didnt care one whit...

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Re: A different name for every site?

"The Carter parents were a quiet and respectable Lancre family who got into a bit of a mix-up when it came to naming their children. First, they had four daughters, who were christened Hope, Chastity, Prudence, and Charity, because naming girls after virtues is an ancient and unremarkable tradition. Then their first son was born and out of some misplaced idea about how this naming business was done he was called Anger Carter, followed later by Jealousy Carter, Bestiality Carter and Covetousness Carter. Life being what it is, Hope turned out to be a depressive, Chastity was enjoying life as a lady of negotiable affection in Ankh-Morpork, Prudence had thirteen children, and Charity expected to get a dollar’s change out of seventy-five pence–whereas the boys had grown into amiable, well-tempered men, and Bestiality Carter was, for example, very kind to animals. "

A wonderful quote on names from Sir Terry...

Why are sat-nav walking directions always so hopeless?

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Re: Hahaha...

I was visiting Pheonix for work about 10 years back, and my colleagues and i were told by the hotel not to walk in the neighbourhood after dark or in the early morning. The reason - there were apparently 2 serial killers active in the area (competing for a high score apparently). This was confirmed as not a joke by our host company.

Needless to say, we stuck to the bar for the evenings!

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