was that written on the inside of a freezer ?
165 posts • joined 31 Mar 2011
from what I have read we have multiple contributory factors
1) the driver, even though he has had issues in the spot before ,was not paying attention (happens in manual cars all the time. You make some huge number of decisions when driving and there is an error rate accidents occur when one or more bad decisions coincide.
2) the Tesla SW and HW was unable to deal with the environment at that spot
3) the road furniture had not been repaired in a timely manner
all three of these contributed to the accident, without one of them the accident may not have happened.
what to do
1) change the sales/marketing guff around "autopilot" call it enhanced cruise control or something else , there will still be idiots who think they can not drive whilst driving I have seen people reading news papers whilst driving normal cars on the motorway FFS
2) tesla look at improving their SW and HW to reduce the risk of this specific issue
3) make sure road furniture is repaired before re-opening the road
it will not stop people dying , it may reduce that sort of accident. People die on the road all the time and there is a constant iteraive process to reduce that . it just takes time.
The main outstanding issue is still one of liability IMHO
I thought this was particularly amusing
"Part of the problem is that no one – particularly the sophisticated United States – wants to agree that something represents an attack when they could also be accused of the same thing.
"If we say something is 'use of force,' it can be used against us," Haines says. "We need a framework where we can go to other countries and say 'this is a problem, you should join us'.""
So it is ok for the good ole USofA cos they are the good guys ?
here is a link to the top 5 causes of RTAs in the UK
which ones do you think could be reduced by removing the meatsack ?
I think it could show an improvement (ie a decrease) in all of them. From my limited understanding the key technologies are in place albeit still costly (eg LIDAR) the things that need work are (in no particular order)
1) security , cos that always needs work
2) legal framework - road traffic laws I think all assume a person is responsible for the control of the vehicle and the decision making process (IANAL)
3) complexities of a mixed environment,, there will always be people like me who want to drive though for fun more that the commute if this does take off, eg the possibility that the autonomous vehicle is capable of making an error must be taken into account in any accident investigation and any claims that is not possible ignored.
getting these things out on the roads has risks associated with it and I think the manufacturers/developers need to take safety as seriously as the Aircraft or space industries do in their designs. If the main selling point is safety then the vehicles had better prove to be safe. I guess the arguments will be around defining "safe" legally and unambiguously. The car industry doesn't have a great track record in independently making things safer. Though as it will be easier to market them as bringing convenience I expect the safety stuff to drop down the priority list under commercial pressure.
this seems to be the nearest thing to reality
drivable planes rather than flying cars, all seem a bit shit though , pity the moller thing was a ponzi scheme they did look good.
If you have the money to invest in one of these flyingcars/driveable planes then surely a helicopter makes sense as you can fly and get to where you need to go without the need for a car.
some people will look for safe "artificial" relationships , some won't, some will look for unsafe artificial relationships , some won't, some will look for safe artificial human relationships ,some won't, some will look for safe human relationships, some wont
I could go on but I won't , the sheer variety of possibility with humans is one of my favourite things about being one
Are you saying a vegan would die from eating a fiver with a trace of amount of tallow ?
if not then comparing them to someone with a deadly peanut allegy or someone who is a coeliac is a fallacy
I am no expert in this sort of thing so feel free to call me out
you are Richard Hollis, I claim my free beer
if you aren't then his presentation called "dance band on the titanic" sums it up nicely
Until security is seen as something with value outside if the IT/security community it ain't gonna happen
forcing companies to declare breaches like they do in the US would be a good place to start.
At least it would show it is much more common that is perceived
the landing bit was just a test wasn't it ?
so even if it failed it was a success as they will have learnt something. for example one of the lessons learnt from beagle was to have data transmitted back during the descent so if anything went wrong then the team would have something to analyse, like what name it gave that noise or the large thing coming up to meet it and if it pondered whether the thing was friendly or not
is there a security bolt on that hasn't been compromised or shown to have vulns ?
So the OS is insecure and the tools we add on to add security are also insecure.
Governments pay for vulns to not be released as they are equiv to weapons in cyber warfare
products are pushed out the door with security as an after thought, users/consumers don't understand, don't care until they are bleating about losing money or being blackmailed
sounds like I need to change career to something with cybersec in the job title and ride the gravy train to retirement
Richard Hollis "Dance band on the titanic" sums it up nicely, a summary of his points is below
I only use these voice commands for making phone calls in the car.
I had to make an alias for my wife as every time I tried calling her by name the phone tried to dial the chap I bought my car from
So I now say "call my wife" and that seems to work. Not bothered with them for anything as if they cannot be relied upon to make a phone call on a phone then more complex tasks would just add to my level of frustration
the home of Weetabix is Burton Latimer isn't it not Kettering.
I have relatives who live there and the Weetabix factory is on the left as you drive in
“the DCC is a secure, national network for smart meters which is currently being built.”
with millions of insecure wifi hotspots and/or unpatched vulnerable entry points,
I mean, what could possibly go wrong ?
can't non payers already be cut off ?
Doesn't the energy supplier have to jump through some legal hoops first like proving the cut off won't cause any harm ?
Until people make buying choices based on security then this will continue to be the case.
People might start to care if they understood that but at the moment the sales is done before the individual know their P&J is so easily stolen.
Maybe insurance companies should start assessing the security of cars to decide on the risk of theft and then adapt premiums. If I was an underwriter I would be ramping up premiums on VAG cars until the manufacturer fixed the issue and had it independently tested.
Really high insurance helped kill the hot hatch for a while until security got better.
this is bound to happen we have a precedent with people believing sat nav over their own eyes.
There will always be stupid people, or people who make stupid decisions. It is a problem of driver education and that tendency of people to think well it was ok last time I pushed the boundary so this time I will push it a bit more.
plus some people will watch the advert and not read the Ts & Cs or the manual, leading to issues like this.
Not sure how to mitigate it maybe more driver education or some a new owners courses to make sure they understand the limitations of the new shiny better , and also making sure any frivolous lawsuits are called out as such.
i guess when it is reported that the driver is an idiot that won't capture the headlines in quite the same way.
"Electing the European Commission may not be a plebiscite but it is just the same as voting for a MP whose political party has decided that an off-shore money-laundering, tax-dodging toff should be Prime Minister whether you like it or not, only to ditch him barely a year later in favour some other imbecilic, dough-faced cunt."
made me laugh out loud
happy Friday beer etc
This is a particularly unnerving statement
“We bring the internet to the car. The driver should get all the information he needs while he is driving."
All the info the driver needs for driving comes from the windows, the seat, the wheel, the instruments, the pedals, the sounds and the mirrors not the fucking internet.
Everything else is not important , nice to have at best.
this language in these articles always annoys me
"Glycidamide is one of the main metabolites resulting from this process and the most likely cause of the gene mutations and tumours seen in animal studies"
How likely is most likely ?
please quantify the actual risk of injesting acrylamide so we can make an informed choice rather than just the usual you are all going to die fat and lonely unless you stop now
"but the GCHQ boss told FT that internet users would welcome a little surveillance"
I assume this is because these internet users assume that the surveillance would be of others, you know the bad people, not me, why would they be interested in me etc
I expect a different answer to the question "do you mind if the intelligent services look at everything (including your cat videos and emails ) and target based on what they find ?"
I understand the intelligence services need to look at stuff, as long as a suitable methods of control and monitoring of their activities such as limited warrants are in place. It seems the internet is a bad place thing is still rumbling around , a spade can be used to dig holes and cave in people's heads, of course "bad" people use the internet because people use the internet. The security services need to change the way they do things to meet the challenges around them and stop trying to take rights away to make their job easier. I am not saying this is easy and I do not have a solution but taking rights away is not the answer, the rights were put in place for a reason, those reasons are still valid.
sometimes makes me wonder how a publication such as the Daily Mail can call itself a newspaper and not a gossip rag given the balance of the content.
Mind you the comments pages on Daily Mail articles gives an interesting insight in to the open mindedness of the readership , such an outpouring of bile, it makes for difficult reading.
yes , but this about breasts and stuff...
Does heat magazine outsell the times yet ?
anyho, I imagine the main reason the celebs are miffed is that they cannot monetize the images now as they are already out there so the fall back of lads mags to re-stimulate a floundering career and pave the way for a reality tv show has had to be temporarily shelved.
you comment should have read
"As GCHQ is part of the Civil Service broad policy decision are made by senior managers trying to empire build and protect their own jobs/departments/budgets and not by the grafters at the bottom of the pile."
not to mention statements by ministers in parliament that the civil servants have to deliver on which also provide for empire building opportunities mostly to counter or capitalise on Daily Mail headlines.
I imagine it went along the lines of
<Oz regulator> block this ip
<ISP> but that will cut off many innocent websites
<Oz regulator> don't you know who I am , do as I say or there will be consequences, think of the children, it is your legal duty to obey etc etc
<ISP> ok but it is your responsibility ...
Personally I think the secondhand patent market should be killed, patents for inventor only, they should not be saleable items.
On driverless cars as a committed petrol head I like the idea of people who see cars simply as a means of transport having an option that gives them the convenience of a car without the hassles of ownership.
i want to own a car as I like cars but if I could have access to a driverless car for commuting or social trips, or even family hoildays (including family camping which might fall outside of the use case) then I could have a wet ware driven car for fun,
This would make me happy, though making me happy probably won't lead to global success.
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