Re: Brings this quote to mind...
"Can you imagine though that it did, peered over the edge and radioed back what it found?"
Presumably a turtle.
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We used to do a sweep of users' personal drives to check for files that were banned by the company, executables, etc. On occasion we found games worth playing - night shifts (when all hell didn't break loose in the real world - were spent playing Doom across the network, I mean testing network speeds. Ahem.
"how can anyone be certain that the drunkard in the car won't try to take control?"
That actually happened to a friend of mine - she was driving round a corner when the drunk passenger panicked and grabbed the wheel, resulting in the car rolling. Luckily nobody was seriously hurt other than the car.
/Me: "WTF??? We just did the same @#$&*! thing half a dozen times!"
Tech: "Yeah, but I understand what's going on"/
I do this every day - the users know enough to try a reboot, then they call me. My first response is usually the same, and 9 times out of 10 it works. Cue grinding of teeth.
You can tell a lot about someone's attitude by the language they use. Sorry, the "mangled into a queer" phrase dripped venom and casual unpleasantness.
And no its not about essentially "growing a pair" - if you are constantly belittled and insulted and are then told to essentially "get over it" it shows that you don't have a clue.
Sounds like an IT director I had once - he was very enthusiastic about using "these new emails" (this was about 1998...) and how they sped up communication. One morning he appeared at my desk asking for help with a technical issue. It turns out that his PA was absent and he couldn't log in to his PC and get his emails printed off - the poor woman used to go through his emails, print them off for him, then he would dictate a response and she would then reply to the emails on his behalf.
That's easy for you to say. I used to know a guy who had done just that. He spent 2 years in a concentration camp - and yes they existed before Belsen - in the 1930s. Some of the stories he had would make your stomach churn, and this was before they started the industrial mass murder.
"The EU required all member states to put VAT on fuel, so that one is out of our hands for the moment, although several members of the cabinet have said they want to get rid of it once we leave the EU."
Although they don't set the rate of VAT beyond a minimum amount. The rest of it is down to our government screwing us...sorry....extracting the most indirect taxation they can to fund "tax cuts".
Current motorway service station price per litre of diesel is £1.56 in the UK
In Luxembourg it's 1.11 eu, or about a quid.
"Let's twist this. You're forcing me to remain in a United States of Europe that takes more of our GDP each year, foists more rules on us each year, and is slowly combining armies to achieve military dominion over members (another thing you lying remainers said wasn't happening during the referendum you cheated and lied in constantly)."
Name one law imposed on you by the EU. How much of our GDP are they taking? Our contribution to the EU, the magical 350 million quid a week, is about 0.6% of your tax bill. This also includes some of our contribution to overseas aid. To put it in perspective for you, over the last 10 years we have paid in around 110 billion to the EU (plus or minus )- we have paid out over 850 billion to prop up our banks despite their criminal activities.
Which armies have been combined? And assuming any have (they haven't) who is seeking military dominion over member states that ASKED TO JOIN IN THE FIRST PLACE?
Cheating in the referendum? Hmm lets see, who is being investigated and fined for improper behaviour during the referendum again?
When you have anything sensible to say please come back, but leave your idiotic slogans and UKIP lies behind, please.
"Instead of the border being between the UK and Ireland it could be between Ireland and the EU. I hear the EU red lined that themselves so thats impossible to do"
Except Ireland is a member of the EU. Explain how they should put a border between their member states? If you mean between NI and Eire, then by EU and WTO rules there should be a hard border, which unfortunately contradicts the GFA. Simple, isn't it?
"Give us the E1bn you have publicly admitted that we have put into this project back or we'll see you in court and stop eyeing up British Overseas Territories for your ground stations "
You still don't get it do you? Lets say you are investing in a swimming pool. You and your friends in the swimming club all put money into it. You insist that its not fair if anyone outside your club uses the pool you are building, so everyone agrees to that rule. You then leave the club, and demand that you should be able to either use the pool as you paid towards it, or should get your money back.
Do you understand it yet?
Ground stations? Well there are a couple in the Falklands and Ascension Islands. I think you'll find the rest are in sovereign territories that we have bugger all say over.
"Galileo uses British technologies with a licence attached to our participation, if they kick us out then those licences are invalid. They can either shut down all existing satellites or renegotiate a new licence for those technologies. Should they refuse to do either then the UK would be well within it's right to shoot down those illegal satellites."
Boy, are you stupid. Galileo uses EU technology, with an EU licence. When we were part of the project we had access rights, now we are leaving we are not part of the EU and thus have NO RIGHTS to it. This was a clause inserted into the licence at the insistence of the UK.
Shoot down satellites? Are you living in a James Bond world?
It's not so much the shambles of the negotiations that is forcing us out of Galileo, it's our own insistence, when part of it, that non-EU countries should not be able to benefit from either the navigation system or the raw data from it. I'm sure the ASA would like to develop something, but with that level of funding it's hard to see them doing more than setting up a nice shiny office.
"I'm amazed why people think things are suddenly going to be so different. It's like Y2K levels of hysteria again ... planes will drop out of the skies, etc. Sod all happened."
Yeah, just the same. Oh,, wait, except the Y2K thing had years of preparation and a huge number of people making sure it didn't all go tits up. And you work in IT? Jeez.
"That's such a constructive attitude. Blame someone else for your inability to cope with change. I can see why you prefer Remain, with your naive assumption that Papa EU will always look after you.
What will you do if we don't leave, the Euro collapses, and your parents'' pension provider goes TITSUP? Will that be your fault for voting remain, or will it just be "one of those things" ?
why would the euro collapse? its doing quite well against the pound thankyou. Of course, such a negative attitude, how dare he not get behind the will of the people, probably a remoaner traitor too, maybe he should go live in eu if he likes it so much, maybe hes a bit foreign?
Cope with change? You arrogant pillock. Anonymous too, I notice.......
"And make no mistake, post-Brexit there will be a lot of hard work to rebuild. The big difference is that some of us can see far enough ahead to understand that the hard work could be worthwhile, even if remainer schadenfreude and EU vindictiveness makes it harder than it needs to be. Others just prefer to sit back and downvote anyone who actually wants to work for improvements."
Great, youre happy to impose economic hardship and possible break up of the union on the nation, largely on those who can least afford it, just to satisfy your 19th century views of plucky brits and dodgy foreigners? Work for improvements? in whose lifetime?
No, the EU isn't a perfect system, I dare you to name one that is - but running away and casting ourselves into an abyss of the unknown is not the action of a rational people. Most people commenting on here don't know how the eu works, you say. funny, most leave voters seem to think that there is a small group of nasty foreign types plotting to control our country at the same time as bribing industry to move abroad so we are ruined while AT THE SAME TIME expecting us to pay into the eu......logic doesn't even begin to enter the building let alone their heads.
"People are already upset at the level of control exercised by the EU, "
No, people are upset at the level of control they have been TOLD the EU holds over them. Not the same thing really is it? these are of course the same people who are quite happy for the government to bypass parliament in implementing deals, new laws, amending existing laws.....take back control? really?
As I always say when someone spews out this nonsense, can you name one EU law that has affected your life in any way, other than those pesky health and safety and workers rights? 87% of our laws don't even MENTION the eu, that's how much control they have over us.
"it's disturbing when one encounters women who've lived here for many years who can barely put a sentence together in English, or women who've run away from their families to escape an arranged marriage. It's damned annoying to experience being spoken to as if a whore by a guy of Asian descent because I had bare arms and an uncovered head one summer"
So, you don't like foreigners then? Tell me, how will limiting EU migrants limit the number of Asians coming to Britain, especially when one of the key demands of the Indian government is that we take MORE migrants in exchange for improved trade deals?
I assume your ire is equally aimed at ex pat brits living in the costa del sol who don't speak a word of Spanish and live in their little piece of Essex in the sun?
"Doesn't matter. You held an election and the majority of the UK want to leave the EU."
No, we didn't have an election. we have a referendum which is basically an opinion poll. the question on the polling paper was simple - do you think Britain should be part of the European union? that was it. no, "how the hell are you going to solve the NI border issue?" no "ok how will we manage with no trade deals?" no "what will we do when the pound plummets?"
this is nothing like the American revolution, if you think it is you need to read your own history a but better
"Look the worse case would be 1 GBP to 1 USD.
You will get oil because you can pay for it. You also have Oil production off your coasts.
So I suggest you get back to reality and switch to decaf.
I think you need to look at the US during the Carter administration. That's your worst case.
If the US could survive... so too will the UK."
We get oil because we can pay for it but at higher cost. We have dwindling oil off our coast, the dividend from the 1970s bonanza was squandered by successive UK governments ( look at Norway for a better idea) The US under Carter is comparable how exactly? The US survived because it has massive resources, propped up its steel and mining industries and imposed trade tarrifs on everything imported.
"And if the rest had voted it would have been an even larger majority for Brexit."
that's about as intelligent as "if the ball had gone in the net it would have been a goal"
You have absolutely no idea how everyone would have voted. Stop bleating out ukip propaganda please - I know people who voted leave and without exception it was based on either some crap they were told by a bloke in the pub, or some equally stupid crap peddled by the leave campaign.
My biggest confusion about the whole thing (other than "how can you be so gullible?") is why the remain campaign was so singularly ineffective at rebuffing the obvious lies of the leave camp - lies that were admitted to the morning after the bloody referendum and yet you brexiteers cling to them like some desperate fantasy. Immigration? Wont change a jot apart from having fewer EU nationals and more Asian ones. Save the NHS with the brexit dividend? Oh wait, there isn't one. We hold all the cards, they need us more than we need them, the easiest trade deals in history.......still waiting for any of that to happen
"Amazon, go HOME but pay your TAXES First. We can exist without you. You are NOT wanted"
Yeah, Amazon and all you companies that set up here with generous tax break incentives from the government, go home because the popular press has realised you're not paying full whack on taxes. Go home and throw thousands of workers on the scrap heap. Go home and set up a lucrative business in other countries, probably in Europe from where you can sell us the stuff we want from you at higher rates than before.
Go home but please for the love of god don't tell anyone how much money a very few, very rich people have squirrelled away in offshore accounts (duke of Westminster anyone?) so we can keep bleating on about you rather than looking at the rotten tax avoidance system.
" Germans have, I believe, 4 subs only and none can go to sea; only 1or 2 ships that can sail, less than 10% of their fighter jets that can fly;"
You believe? Or do you have actual citations for this?
With the end of the Cold War, the Germans have cut back on military spending, yes. There is a problem with organisation of repairs and spare parts. However, this is not a permanent situation, as once the repairs are done...well then they are all back in operation surely? they don't, however, have the US obsession with the cult of the military.
"Meanwhile, both sides need to grow up, stop punching each other and work out how to resolve the Brexit problem via mutual compromise"
The only side needing to grow up is the bunch of bickering fantasists in the UK. Why is it in the interests of the EU to make this easy for us? Democracy is already a casualty - the British government is trying to give itself the final say on brexit without allowing parliament - sovereignty and all that, remember? - any say other than bad deal or no deal. It's also trying to give itself the power to amend existing laws without consulting parliament (EU withdrawal bill)
EU democary is fine - the EU commission members are appointed by the elected governments of the member states. They don't pass any laws but merely propose them. The MEPs that we vote for do that. If you think the EU commission is unelected and should go, then I assume you want to vote for the members of our cabinet as well? Did you get the chance to vote for Gove and Johnson's positions in the cabinet? No? Wow, how undemocratic.
"Don't you anything actually useful to say other than spout bile and rage?"
Standard leave response - any criticism of the glorious sunlit uplands future of Britain is denounced as bile and rage.
Rage? don't get me started you self-centred troll. Give me ONE thing that will be better after brexit bites. ONE. If you mention immigration I will laugh at you. Sovereignty that we never lost but are in the process of killing off? I'll point and laugh. Trade deals? We already have trade deals across the world - more than 50% of our trade actually.
Go on, give me a giggle.
"I've concluded that this forum is being used to spread anti-Brexit opinions "
It's a forum, you numpty. You and a couple of others are spreading pro brexit opinions. So that's ok but nobody is allowed to hold the opposing point of view? Standard leave mentality right there - "anything that contradicts what we say is treachery/hysterical nonsense/blah blah blah"
As has been pointed out several times, Galileo was specifically blocked from non EU countries. Like GB will be. Have our cake and eat it? Are you still buying into that fairy story? We have separated ourselves and alienated ourselves from the single biggest trading bloc in the world. According to the leave mouthpieces negotiating new trade deals will be the simplest, easiest thing in the world. I don't see anyone queuing up to make trade deals.
"The Germans lost the war and are now winning economically - the UK is well to avoid the coming fate of France and Greece has already been taken over and on the cheap! The rest will will follow. The new members in the Balkans are just cannon fodder for Angela"
This is hilarious. Keep going, I've nearly got brexit bingo.
So far you've had -
ridiculous claims about classification of fish
French unemployed being sent to the uk
the germans lost the war and are taking over by economic means
All you're missing is "they need us more than we need them!"
"the UK should therefore NOT pay the EU for future commitments - because hey, we are now not in it together."
You keep repeating this mantra despite everyone pointing out the basic flaw. Galileo has a specific caveat (written at our insistence) that no non-EU country can use it or the signals from it. On the other hand, the UK has committed to paying in to existing EU projects for the next few years, hence the "divorce bill".
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