But, can it reproduce the The Fallen Madonna With The Big Boobies ???
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I like Trinity (the fork from KDE3), not least for the not-crippled Konqueror in particular, and the clarity and richness of the desktop tools in general.
I've never had a problem installing it on Debian, and now Devuan, although I can't speak for other varieties. It runs happily enough for me even on low-end Atom class notebooks.
I've read suggestions that, being from Warwickshire, his accent might have been Proto-Brummie.
Re: Milk in Bags?
Are the bags re-cyclable when worn out, I wonder ?
Only this morning we had an email from our dairy that they are discontinuing plastic bottles and going totally to glass (which we already select anyway).
Back in the '40s at my Grandma's house (UK) the milkman came to the door with a portable churn , and a pint measure ladle with which he dispensed the milk into your jug.
Re: "were made available for other OS"
"were made available for other OS"
"... Desktop development for Linux is a minefield - and Linux UIs really lag behind Windows and macOS. ..."
In what respect does the UI 'lag' ? It depends what you're looking for in your UI. Admittedly, you have to choose the desktop that suits you from a large number of available choices.
I like a 'rock-solid' traditional UI that looks crisp and presentable without a lot of arty-farty eye-candy. Trinity Desk Environment (a fork of KDE 3.5) does that for me, and provides a huge range of GUI tools and applications. Other tastes may vary.
Not having to run 'badly-written' corporate applications, as mentioned by previous posters, most of the Windows-only applications that I need run perfectly on Wine. A VM of W7 or XP takes care of most of the rest.
Not Block H for the Enigma message demo. Also see YAAC's posting above and others.
We visited Bletchley Park the day before yesterday (18 Sep 2018). In Block H were the 'Heath Robinson' and 'Colossus' re-builds, the machines that were used against the 'Tunny' high-level traffic. No sign of any 'Bombe', the machines thet were used to crack the 'tactical' level Enigma traffic. The National Museum Of Computing room was closed; peering through the glass window in the door we couldn't see past the more modern stuff to see if any Bombe was lurking in there.
(Although I am not a volume customer, just a retired user), only yesterday I fired up my 'canary in the coal-mine' Win7pro virtual machine.
The CDROM drive disappeared - driver fault - after catching up on the Windows updates.
Guess what happened next ?
Windows then reported that it needed to be re-activated due to a detected hardware change.
Not a problem operationally, as I had a known-good backup saved before recent updates.
No more updates will be allowed, ever. (I only use my VMs as test-beds or where a program won't run on Wine).
And where I can use an XP VM, I do that as it is less harassed ...
The customary El-Reg reference: Adams, Airplane, Dilbert, Pratchett, Python,,,
Wowbagger, the Infinitely Prolonged.
" I'd rather listen to vogon poetry than watch Debian do the 'silly walk' like that. "
It's poetry, Jim but not as we know it.
"I think this thread has now hit the unwritten El Reg rule that "if it goes on long enough it is imperative that someone must include at least one Monty Python/Douglas Adams/Terry Pratchett/Airplane* reference." "
Shirley not !
This isn't insurmountable though - there are approaches like WINE or Blackberry's just in time shimming to run Android apps on BB 10.
If only :( . As BB10 was when Blackberry abandoned it, it could only run a few Android apps, whether natively or 'shimmed' as the case might be.
Would you like some toast ?
"- Code which has been written to demonstrate how well the developer knows the language, at the expense of readability and reliability - developer arrogance"
I may have posted this on El Reg before many years ago, but anyway ... In my comparative youth my boss mentioned an anecdote, whereby the Chairman of the Gas Board promulgated the Edict "Sack all clever programmers ! " :D
I nominate Zaphod Beeblebrox to steal the drive
Re: Perfect for the job?
" Perfect for the job?
If it had been perfect for the job they'd have been able reliably to find and hit their targets and we probably wouldn't have lost more than 200 of them in the last full month of the war in Europe."
The 'Perfect for the job' item under discussion was the special improvised bomb-sight for the dams raid.
Nothing to do with finding other targets.
"The Blob" extending it's tentacles into yet another area ...
Windows 10 Springwatch: See the majestic Microsoft in its natural habitat, fixing stuff the last patch broke
Only yesterday I was at a talk with laptop slide & movie presentation. 3/4 way through, up came Windows 10 ... updates ... reboot now or later. The latter was efficiently and rapidly selected.
What's silent but violent and costs $250m? Yes, it's Lockheed Martin's super-quiet, supersonic X-plane for NASA
For a while I was involved with the (Concorde Air Intakes) Control Unit Test Equipment.
It was CUTE.
On a non-related project (1970s), a bunch of us visited an air museum near the Cape in Florida one weekend. There was a prototype of the US SST there. For display purposes it was wearing engines that looked as if they might have come off a 707 or similar.
Re: Concorde & SR-71
@ Norman Nescio
Sir, you are a scholar and a gentleman. Have a pint :)
This story also appeared on El Reg recently, found it again here -
Re: Lockdown has already happened including & in coperation with Ubuntu Linux
'Linux Ubuntu comes from Debian, i am not sure if systemd is built into that one, it'd be a shame if Debian had sold out too.'
Yes, Debian uses systemd now.
Devuan is a non-systemd fork of Debian.
'English policy is to be allies with the French against the Spanish, the Germans against the French, the Germans against the French (and Americans), the French against the Americans, the French against the Germans part II, the Americans against the French ....... '
As Sir Humphrey explains ...
Re: Is KDE still a thing?
Have you tried Trinity (the fork of KDE 3.5) ? Preserves the 'traditional' setup, still with the nice utilities.
Re: "gas molecules bouncing around inside the satellite were sufficient to register as noise. "
'plus the random atoms and other doodads getting back in of course - given that space isn't a perfect vacuum.'
Where's Maxwell's Demon when you need it, eh.
Re: "Unbound planet"
The scatterings from a game of Interplanetary Billiards.
Decades ago I was on a project where the use of ADA was mooted (to my relief nothing came of it - we didn't have the infrastructure for it, and btw I'm not a s/w specialist). Anyway I was at at conference where a professor of computing piped up from the front row to say (I paraphrase from memory) that in the long run everything would be written in C ; I assume by that he included C++ .
"... Or you can use OCaml. It generates C directly. ..."
Doesn't that belong in this thread ? https://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2018/01/24/saudi_camels_disqualified_from_beauty_context_for_using_botox/
"... And that's why the first thing my A Level Physics tutor told me to forget everything I had learnt at GCSE because it was either a lie or an over simplification.
I was then told exactly the same thing at degree level, seems a perverse way to teach to simplify things to the point they are factually incorrect and then have to "correct" that knowledge at a later date. ..."
One of our degree lecturers said it thus: "We teach you by diminishing deceptions" .
I thought it was fair enough, *if made explicit*, for e.g. starting with Newton, which is practicable enough for some purposes, before moving on to Einstein.
With you on pointless, ambiguous or not-even-right-or-wrong questions ;-)
"I teach physics, and one common GCSE question is "What is the mains voltage?" The "correct" answer is 230V, if you write 240V you'll lose the mark. Few kids are interested in why it's changed, so I just warn them to ignore their parents if they use the "wrong" value."
Is that a 'Physics' question these days ? ... and there was I trying to be open-minded about the dumbing-down of exams ...
Re: Sounds perfectly normal
Back in the '80s we had as part of test equipment a Honeywell with the run-time system only. This was only run when the contractor involved was on site. Thanks to the front panel register switches it was possible to enter programs manually in machine code. Took a bit of time, mind, for anything bigger than 'Hello world" ;-) .
I'm currently reading
"Searching for the Catastrophe Signal"
"The origin of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change"
by Bernie Lewin
This describes the history of successive environmental concerns, from the policy over-reaction to the damage caused by saturation use of DDT (loss of public health benefits particularly in the 'third world'), emissions by SuperSonic Transport, CFCs and the ozone layer, and so on ...
As one issue loses traction over time, for whatever reason, the next one comes along.
The book contains plenty of detail.
A bit of a historical aside; it is sometimes implied, or 'accused', that KDE was inspired by Windows. The inspiration of early KDE in fact goes back well before 21st century Windows; desktops with that flavour were to be seen on 'grown-up' systems such as the Unixes, Digital Equipment Company's VMS ....
Re: boys flogging themselves
"KDE shite is never fast or light, if they had any experience they'd use anything else."
Er, to which version(s) of KDE do you refer?
The whole point of (KDE3-derived) Trinity for me is that is free of the arty-farty GUI artefacts that came in later versions, while still offering a handy suite of tools, some of which got degraded in functionality/friendliness for my purposes in later KDE releases. On any hardware of within, say, the last decade, the responsiveness is not perceptibly slower than the 'lightweight' desktops - I've tried most of 'em.
Re: I'll give it a go
I run Trinity 14.0.4 on Debian Jessie on my Acer Aspire One 10-incher for travelling. Dual-booted with W7 for when I need a Windows program that won't run on Wine/Crossover-Office.
Debian+Trinity is the 'snappier'.
Re: New toys are always more exciting than repaired ones
And now, remind me, WhoTF sold off the Harriers in favour of 'vapourware' :(
Oh, of course.
Re: Are crooks hacking private build systems, or cloud ones?
Upvoted - yes, air-gap FFS
Off-topic, but it reminds me of an anecdote from an ex-RAF colleague at work.
AVRO Shackleton approaching east coast of US. Two Delta Daggers appear behind to shepherd them in.
Pilot to Captain "Would you like me to lose them Sir ?"
Pilot throttles Shackleton back to just above stalling speed.
The debrief after landing was not the most harmonious ever.
"Norgrove was right: post-Brexit gross £350m a week? Nope"
Oh, should he have said £349, or £351 ?
This is a side-load of politics into the Register; the views of one of the unelected 'experts' who see their power over us slipping away as we become a sovereign nation again.
Re: Ah well
"Apple seem to do a remarkably good job at supporting old hardware. ..."
My Brother-in-law recently passed on an iOS6 phone to the Wife. The first thing I tried to put on it for her was Facebook (we communicate with Far-Flung-Family).
The current Facebook refused to install on anything older than iOS8.
Can the handset install iOS8 ? Nah, unless anybody can advise me of a work-around.
Re: So it's a virtual improbability?
"Then it's a finite probability. Plug that number into a... (insert rest of HHG skit here).
When do I get my money?"
You get a bowl of petunias.
Re: We've got modern technology now, how about an official bong app?
Did the team at El Reg have a sweepstake on how many reactions there would be to this theme ?
A couple of years or so ago I read a report of a bloke in US who took out a 'peeping Tom' drone, that was above his garden, with a shotgun or rifle (Can't remember which).
" The manner of his arrest is also interesting. While Britain has an extremely favorable extradition treaty with the US – thanks to Tony Blair bending over backwards to accommodate his buddy George Bush – it appears the Feds decided not to go that route. "
Perhaps because Theresa May (Home Secretary at the time) grew some balls and refused to extradite McKinnon (I think it was) (?)
Good question from the Wife - "Will it tilt us?" to which I think the answer is "It will make the earth vary its orbit a little bit - the amount To Be Calculated".
Re: Big egos make bad code.
I remember, back in the '70s, my boss telling me the following anecdote:
The Chairman of the Gas Board (as it then was in the UK) issued the following edict "Sack all clever programmers"
"There are easily found youtube videos of hunters shooting rabbits at 250-500 metres."
"Kill the wabbit"
"Duck Season !"
That'th dethpicable! Rabbit Theathon!"
" "We've got to be as good as zero," he said, speaking of the number of deaths the public would tolerate. "
Shirley that ain't ever gonna happen.