* Posts by jake

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Welcome to cultured meat – not pigs reading Proust but a viable alternative to slaughter

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Re: they already exist

"Cows can't help there."

I believe the raw collagen used as a substrate for skin regeneration is harvested from cows. Look up the work of Dr. Ioannis V. Yannas.

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Yes, Dean Foods has filed Chapter 11. However, note that they produce dairy products, not meat.

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Re: ""What was a wistful daydream just five years ago is now an inevitability,""

It's inevitable that someone will invent it. That "all of us" will make it a part, much less all, of our protein requirement? Not so much.

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One major problem.

The French have a name for it: Terroir.

Just like in Wine, where the land the grapes are grown on affects the final product, the land you grow your meat on affects the quality of the finished product. My gut feeling is that test-tube meat will be to my lovingly produced beef as aerosol cheese is to hand made, cave aged Gruyère ... in other words, essentially inedible.

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"Potato waffle, veggie burger, fried egg with crushed grains of paradise pepper (yolk still runny), potato waffle and then baked beans (fry some onion, garlic, mushroom, chilli then add beans, cayenne pepper,some cheese and heat the beans till ready)."

Wait a couple hours, then light blue touch paper and stand well back.

" Can be complimented with 4 cans of stella."

In which case, change the "couple hours" to "about an hour".

"Some people say I'm not cultured but that right there is class."

Ah. You must be from Hull.

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Re: Cells have feelings too

Doesn't hold water. I know plenty of people who are supposedly cultured, and yet apparently don't have any feelings at all.

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Re: Artificial Protein-Based Meat

"where APBMs cover (and expand) the "junk food" spectrum of nutrition, being as unhealthy and dangerous as they can get away with being."

Do you really think the so-called "impossible burger" (just as an example) is a healthier alternative? Before you answer, consider that Impossible Foods and Beyond Meat do not market their products as being healthier than beef. I wonder why that is?

Also, please consider which is the more heavily processed so-called "food": a good old fashioned beef burger, or one of the vegan alternatives.

THINK, people. It's your over-all health and well-being we're talking about here ...

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Re: Fake Meat Meet

"BTW What do penguins taste like? Fishy chicken?"

Penguin tastes like a cross between seagull/rat and old, oily fish. And it's really, really stringy. Quite narsty, actually.

The scene: Accident with a cage door at the San Diego Zoo in 1983ish ... A two year old tried to poke his head back at us just as the door was closing. The otherwise healthy bird died instantly (broken neck) and we decided "waste not, want not", and fired up the hibachi

What a boar! Wild pigs snort and snuffle €20k worth of marching powder stashed in Tuscan forest

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Re: besieging stables?

Bears are not horses, not even if you squint.

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Re: Wild Boar..

Where do you find your pigs? I've taken wild boar/feral pig crosses in every State west of the Mississippi River (except Washington), and several east of it. I have also participated in wild boar hunts in various places in Europe. But I've never observed the behavior you describe. They are either skittish, taking off for the next county at the first sign of humans, or they are in kill mode, with nothing in between. Ignoring humans definitely isn't on their agenda.

That boar must have been very ill or very old or both. Or perhaps genetically it was more domestic than wild, despite it's appearance (I've seen this in feral hogs with a large percentage of Tamworth, for example ... but most experts wouldn't consider them "wild boar", despite their looks).

Regardless, they are (nearly) all tasty ... I have acorn finished San Benito Mountain bacon curing as I type.

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Re: Wild Boar..

You surprised a wild boar in heavy brush? Got within 3 feet of it?

Hard to believe is an understatement ...

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Re: "Coldiretti – Italy's largest farmers' association – led protests in Rome"

Here in California, taking of wild boar[0] isn't recreational either. Here, we call it "varminting". They are a serious problem, and it's pretty much open season on the pests. Doesn't mean they aren't tasty, though ...

[0] Actually a cross between European wild boar & domestic pigs, although they look more like the wild varietal than domestic ... Released for hunting purposes in the late 1880s, they have become a major pest in some parts of the mountains of central California.

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Re: This Land is Your Land

I have run across sharks of many stripes whilst surfing and boating here in Northern California, including Great Whites. Not a single one of them has ever showed any interest in making me into a snack, much less a main course.

Try not to look like a wounded seal ... you'll live longer, in any walk of life.

I've had it with these motherflipping eggs on this motherflipping train

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Re: I can see why smoking was banned!

Alcohol, like gasoline, doesn't explode unless it is at or very near the stociometric ratio, which will never happen at a perfume counter regardless of how thick and nasty the fumes are.

Alcohol burns cooler than gasoline, and has a lower energy density (Gas 32 MJ/L, Ethanol 19 MJ/L, Methanol 16 MJ/L).

Alcohol is used in engines because it has a higher octane rating than gasoline (Gas up to about 99, Ethanol about 107, Methanol about 106). This allows a higher compression engine before detonation sets in. It also allows the use of higher pressures in supercharged applications. The fact that it burns cooler also helps in boosted situations. It also provides better cooling under evaporation, further making for a denser charge in the cylinder(s).

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If you over cook the eggs and/or hold them at too high a temperature for too long, you'll be rewarded with the smell. When the temperature gets much above 140F, the egg whites start releasing sulpher, When the temperature goes above 180F, hydrogen sulfide starts to form (incidentally, this is what reacts with the iron in the yolk to form that green ring). The hotter the temperature and the longer you hold it, the worse the smell.

For boiled eggs, place them in a pan of cold water, bring to a boil, remove from heat and allow to stand for about 13 minutes. Immediately cool with either running cold tap water, or in a bath of ice and water. No more smell, and no more green ring.

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Re: Legality

"The "NO EATING" rule is a bit absurd, though, considering there's a food stand in the station."

Food is allowed in the station. However, BART does NOT allow food on the platforms, nor in the trains. It is plainly marked "no eating past this point" at the ticket gates. Everyone who rides BART on a regular basis (like the dude in question) knows this.

"Hurting a cop's feelings has never been ruled a crime in the US."

Verbal assault is just as much a crime as physical assault. Note that the charge of assault was never written up, nor was the charge of resisting arrest, nor the charge of not cooperating with the officer in the performance of his duties (all of which are crimes); he has just been cited for eating on the platform. Instead of jail time, he's facing a $250 fine. The belligerent scoff-law got off easy.

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Re: Sometimes it's fun, though....

It's not murder to harvest animals, no matter how many times you bleat it.

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Re: Pre-chicken?

I'm a pragmatic farmer. Sadly, tractors and well pumps can't replicate. However, the birds produce their own replacements, leaving me with extra money for tractor and pump parts.

Better yet, the birds will over replicate with little or no encouragement. The excess can be harvested and sold for extra money, which sometimes allows me to buy new tractors and pumps, obviating the need for replacement parts for a few years.

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"depends on which country"

Perhaps ... but I see the same thing here in the States. As a whole, Boomers are a lot more frugal and far more patient than later generations, too.

As always, individual exceptions exist but do not make a trend.

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Re: Pre-chicken?

How do you get more chickens when your layers turn into stewers? Shirley you don't purchase more birds! I haven't bought a chicken in ... well, ever. Landrace birds here, best of all worlds.

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Re: Legality

Execute? You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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You have no sole, David.

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It's not eating that's illegal.

It's where he was eating.

And even then, if he had chosen to listen to the cop (as do most transgressors in a similar situation), we wouldn't be having this conversation. But no, he chose to argue with, and then assault, the cop. For which he was immediately arrested. Handcuffed. Which was undoubtedly a possibility that he hadn't counted upon.

(WAT AG)

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Re: Making a stink about a.....stink

There is a largish strawberry field just south-west of the little farming town of Sonoma, California. It's on the north-east corner of Arnold Drive and Watmaugh Road. Every year about this time, the fields get their fall feeding, so the fruit gets off to a good start in the spring. The prevailing winds off the Bay every afternoon drive the lovely scent of fermenting liquid steer shit directly into Sonoma Plaza, home of many high-end wine tasting establishments. Needless to say, the (mostly) city-folk tourists are often heard to exclaim "What IS that SMELL?" ... to which most of us locals take great delight in asking "Remember those strawberries you had for breakfast?" ...

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Re: Pre-chicken?

Thus answering the eternal question ... it's eggs, all the way down.

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Re: Pre-chicken?

You haven't had farm fresh eggs since the 1960s? Poor bastard.

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Re: Legality

He was eating his sarnie right under a sign that said "No Eating". And then he argued with and verbally assulted the cop, whose only sin was to politely point out the sign asked him to put it away. He wasn't arrested for eating, he was arrested for assulting an officer.

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Re: Legality

I was just going to point that out. The British sometimes remind me of the guy at the party who overhears that somebody's drunk, so he jumps up on the table to see who it is ... and damned if they all aren't drunk!

NASA boffins tackle Nazi alien in space – with the help of Native American tribal elders

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Re: farting in lifts

Wrong on the basement level, the ground floor level, the ... I'd say it's not wrong on many levels, but rather it's wrong on every level.

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"The Anti-Defamation League, a self-appointed US "authority" on what they decide are hate crimes"

FTFY.

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They are no more official than any other group of lawyers making a buck off the whinging of the hand-wringers and namby-pambys. That is to say not official at all.

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The ADL?

There are still idiots who pay attention to those nutters? Who knew?

This isn't Sweden, so I'm not sure what your point is there ...

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Thors hammer is "officially" racist in America? Really? Who says? First I've heard of it. Honestly, where do you lot get your information, anyway?

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I have it on good authority that ...

... in astronomical circles, the large end is still going to be known as Ultima and the small end Thule. Gotta name 'em something, and that's what they are already called, so ...

Without any apparent irony, Google marks Chrome's 'small' role in web ecosystem

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Re: "spaces won with 51 per cent of the vote"

Start picking. Or not. Far be it from me & etc.

I've been using K&R (with the four-space option) for about 40 years now ... with occasional lapses into other styles, depending on local preferences, of course.

It's friday, and it's bound to be 5 o'clock somewhere. This round's on me.

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Expecting solidarity based on an accident of naming?

Kids these days ...

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Re: "spaces won with 51 per cent of the vote"

Not two. Four. Nice compromise.

Next argument: K&R, BSD KNF, 1TBS, Allman, GNU, or Whitesmiths?

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Re: "spaces won with 51 per cent of the vote"

"nobody knew what the hell I was talking about"

That happened for me too ... I slid "Eight Megs And Constantly Swapping" into the conversation, and nobody in the room understood why eight megs might be considered to be a problem. Most of 'em didn't even seem to know what swap was.

The first coder to figure out how to make a nickle off each and every wasted Gig of memory world-wide will become far more wealthy than any of today's tech billionaires.

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Re: "spaces won with 51 per cent of the vote"

Creating "documents" (and their templates), and typing in addresses is a different sport than coding. I'll concede that tabs still have a place in such menial office work. But never in coding, unless the language demands it ... in which case, to date I have seen no real need for that language beyond being a learning tool for the author(s) of the language.

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Re: "spaces won with 51 per cent of the vote"

But, but, but ... I thought Vim was an IDE!

It is the way I use it, anyway ...

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Re: "spaces won with 51 per cent of the vote"

It's not bikeshedding. It's good-natured ribbing about accidents of history.

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Re: "spaces won with 51 per cent of the vote"

"expands tabs in the standard way by 8 steps"

That's not what TABS were invented for. In the first place, it's not steps, it's stops. And they are a variable width across the page, by definition. The first TAB stop might be four spaces, the next might be another four, or it might be five. Or eight. And the next might be three. Etc.

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I'd have fired him, right then and there. Gross incompetence is against my corporate bylaws.

I'm still not that Gary, says US email mixup bloke who hasn't even seen Dartford Crossing

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Re: Glad it's not just me then.

" I have considered contacting the guy by mail, or by phone, it wouldn't be a problem since I've had those details thrust into my lap enough times now, but I'm genuinely scared, since it's clear that he's an idiot, he'll probably decide it's all my fault and set his lawyer on me. It's just not worth the risk."

You said he's "in the states" (wherever that is!), and I assume that you are not. You are out of his jurisdiction, so it's safe for you to contact him, even if he is an idiot who like to make trouble for people trying to help him. If his "lawyer" contacts you, simply ignore it. You tried.

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Yeah, but ...

For every 1 commentard who is allowed/mandated to read ElReg at work, I'll bet there are another 500 who are skiving off. I'd further wager that of those 500, probably 30+ would be allowed if they asked permission, with a business case at hand for doing so.

And to bring it back on topic, I'll bet over 90% of the commentards who are allowed to read ElReg at work are also allowed to drop ElReg a "corrections" email from their official work email account.

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But you used an email address to register with ElReg.

If you hadn't, you wouldn't be able to comment.

Use that email address.

(Shirley you know how to set your email address to whatever, regardless of where you are really sending it from, right? Honestly, I don't get the recalcitrance to using email for a situation that email is eminently suited for. Makes no sense. Unless all y'all are just being bitchy for the sake of being bitchy, of course.)

Hyphens of mass destruction: When a clumsy finger meant the end for hundreds of jobs

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Re: Sopwith Camel user interface

"Torque effects from the propellor rotation?"

It's called "gyroscopic couple". It's not just the prop, the rotating mass included the cylinders/pistons, valves, etc. Essentially, the crank was fixed and the engine+prop rotated around it. Fascinating answer to a design problem, if a trifle on the bizarre side to today's eyes. They don't make machinists the way they used to ...

ANYway, yes the Camel rolls into a right easier than a left. But not to the extent in the urban legend, that is likely caricature. In reality, the effect is only around 20% different left to right ... To the experienced pilot, it is almost unconsciously compensated for after a few minutes of flight[0]. When you think about it, if the Camel had been known to not be able to roll left, do you really think it would have become known as one of the best dog fighters of WWI?

[0] That is directly from the horse's mouth ... Javier Arango, who owned B6291 (the last surviving flyable Sopwith-built, Gnome powered Camel that saw action in WW1) was a friend of mine. I believe he and a writer for one of the flying magazines (maybe Pete Garrison?) actually wired the plane and put numbers on the flight characteristics, but I don't have a reference handy.

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Re: Nostalgia ain't what it used to be...

"Would have helped if some of that efficiency had been put towards detecting input errors and range checks. ;)"

It was. That's part of what made it so efficient.

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Re: One way to prevent accidents

Or even v and i, for the pedants among us.

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Re: SCO Unix

I take it you've never heard the expression "fired a shot in anger"? In this context, "in anger" roughly means "a professional doing their job, no matter how distasteful".

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