* Posts by mrsrobinson2010

19 posts • joined 29 Nov 2010

Canada steps closer to legalising sex work


Protecting Johns from beng ripped off

This guy is only worried about PROTECTING CLIENTS fro being ripped off. He is not worried about the few people being exploited or sex workers that are being discriminated against, stalked, raped and murdered, as long as HE GETS WHAT HE WANTS. Which is to buy sex legally. These types of clients usually go to cheap spa's as they are not interested in an upscale call girl working from home indpendently and I am sure the call girl rather not be stuck in a borthel where she is forced to serve men like him who have no respect for women in general.

Sex workers are not safe being made to work in brothels like cattle, they are safe when they can CHOOSE, who they work and have sanction and protection under the law. Men treat you how our allow them too. Women deserve the choose who, where and when and how.


How about we regulate and test your profession

How about we regulate and test your profesion and criminalize you for not obtaining this license that only sex workerswould be required to have.

The general public has more std's than prostites and that cqame from Canada's heath dept, studfies, and we should make you work in a brothel and not let you choose how you sell your accounting services or yourreal estate services.

All professions should have the same licensing requirements. There are more drunk women and men in bars passing on std's, than prostitutes.


Why porn is legal

Porn is legal because they claim she is not being paid for sex she is being paid to act for filming purposes and any that distributes porn has to keep a 2254 on file, which is a models release, which would prove they are adult and consented.

Ironicanally prostitutes are much better actresses than [porn stars are, rarely do you see a women in porn that is realistically actingut the part.

Another ironic fact is in the usa we have laws against paying for sex or any lewd act yet we allow women to strip in clubs which is a lewd act.

This is all about trying to control peoples sexual behavior due to own our moral beliefs. However we only want to control women who are paid for sex, if a women gives it away, or a man give it away or even if a man pays for it then we are ok with it, but it only becomes our FOCUS because a women was paid, even though most women have sex by the 3rd date, the only difference is in how we negotiate, no women has sex without expecting something and no man has sex and does not excpect it to cost him something.


Maybe we should

Maybe we should stop STALKING middle aged consenting adults down online and focus on putting pimps and predators in prison for 25 years. One thing has nothing to do with the other,closing brothels will make it easier for anyone to explot another person.

Maybe you should actually have services set up for VICTIMS.


It would be nice

Yes it would be nice to focus on setting up services for all women wanting to exit the industry but nobody is commenting on the sex workers needs. We only focus on criminalizing her, keeping her out of our comunties and wanting to TAX her, so the governement will then be exploiting her or wanting to regulate her sexual behavior without regulating anyone elses.

Yes then it would be a better world, so as a concerned citizen, maybe you should ask for your that dollars to be spend on SERVICES for these women instead of going to STALKING THEM and throwing them in jail.


then lets regulate all adults having sex

It is stupid to regulate anyones sexual activity unless we do it for EVERYONE.

It is legal for a drunk women to have unprotected sex with half the town but you want sex workers tested and regulated.

the only regulation you need is that both parties have to be consenting adults who meet in private, if women want to work for a brothel or work alone, the cops can then check with the brothels at any time to make sure they are all of legal age and in the country legally.

You can't regulate me, when everyone else is doing the same thing, expect they are giving it away, and I am samrt enought to charge for my time.

You do not need laws outlawing public prostituion because being a PUBLIC NUSIANCE already covers it, we already have laws against human traffciking, so what is left to regulate or control. What gives you the right to try and have any say so or control over what I do with my body if I am an adult.


What we teach our kids

Maybe we should teach our kids not to be bullies and not to HATE OTHERS because we do not agree with their personal choices. Maybe if we do not continue to teach our kids that HATE CRIMES against sex workers, mabe we should teach women not to give up sex for free by the 3rd date and that it is not ok to have unprotected sex just because your in a relationship, and maybe we should teach MEN to have some RESPECT for women.

Look at how men talk about women, after they shack up with them for months they claim they are not dating her, they call use all whores because they have nothing left contructive enough to continue the arguement and they call us a BTICH when we say NO.

And until your ready to give all these women long term services than do not talk about a SOLUTION, criminalzing us is not a soultion as it only puts the VICTIM in jail and lets the criminals (the pimps and predators) go free.

Ido not come to your home or church or workplace placing my moral belifes on you so you have no right doing so to others. we do not all agree on The marriage game, that allows men to absue you and then leave his family with no support.


Lets regulate YOU

Than that would mean YOU would need to be regualed and tested too. How dare you blame STD's in sex workers when every study shows they have less STD's then the general public.

Your worried about it being SAFER FOR THE JOHNS NOT TO GET RIPPED OFF, wow what great compassion for the plight of these desperate women.

Are you require to have a license to go to work? Are you required to have medical and drug screenings, because all you can't create laws that only affect one occupation. whether clean houses or are a sex worker, all regulations should be the same for each profesion.

Seems to me that in any occupation an personsimplky files reports their earnings and then pays taxes, however with out taxes being paid, you will have to set up SERVICES for us. right now we can not get heathcare or any benifit other citizens get.

Your attitude show the HATE CRIME AND DISCRIMINATION aginst sex worker.

Beings that sex workers have les stds than the general public maybe we should test everyone who isn't a sex worker.


If its really about trafficking

If its really about trafficking why do we not make laws giving anone who exploits a kid or tries to purchase sex from a id, 25 years on their firs offesne mandatory.

This alone will cut down human trafficking, out do you really think VICTIMS will come forth when they FEAR being PROSECUTED and pubically humilated over the abuse from the cops during their arrest.

Maybe we should out law porn just because we have criminals that engage in child porn.

Maybe we should shut down stripclubs too and adult bookstores and make it illegal for anyone to have sex outside of marriage and then we can take away womens right to own property and vote again too while we are at it.


Maybe stop lying to the media trying to convince us that expoiting kids is the same as adult entertainment.


Brothel laws were no intended for the indepdent

☙ keeping a common bawdy house, i.e. operating a brothel or even just one whore having a regular place of business.

This is stupid, if a women has sex at home for free it is not a brothel bt if she charges a fee it is.

We al know when they wrote the law it was intended to stop Brothels that housed a stable of women. Since we applied it to all women whether they are independent or agency or brothel is what made them throw the law out. It discrminated against the sex worker.

until we can be RATIONAL and without bring in our peronal moral beliefs into making laws that do not harm women and does not take away their sanction and protection then any new laws each city tries to past will be thrown out too.


I could not have said it better

I totally agree with you and also think its ironic that we morally think its ok for a drunk women to give it away to strangers in a nightclub and not even use protection, however if a women is making a buck we have issues over MORALS.

Studeis show most women in the dating world have sex by the 3rd date.

Or we have no moral problem with men who lie to women to get sex.



Studies also show that most of the women that claim they were exploited, had cell phones and accesss to come and go. They did not report their plight because they FEAR BEING PROSECUTED and the public shame and abuse by the cops during arrest.

Why not simply put safe gaurads in place to make sure only adults can post ad ads. I can not remember any men that were charged in Canada for trying to purcahse sex from a minor. creating laws to give people 25 years for human trfficking doesn't do much if the sentences are not handed down.

Also maye if we actually had services in place for victims and women wanting to exit the indsutry, these women might just walk away and get help. Antime a women can not report a crime against herself do to fear we have taken away her sanction and protection.

Instead of worry about a few people being exploited,Maybe we should have investiagted the 300 prostitutes that were murdered in Canada in the past 25 years.

Why are human traffciking victims worth more than murdered hookers, each should have sanction and protection under the law.


Then why isn't anyone in jail for it

But exploiting victims is not the same as consenting adults who meet in private, you have laws against human trafficking so go back and see what each person involved was sentenced too. Also how manyof these VICTIMS had access to cell phones and had access to come and go but still did not report being exploited until they were arrested.

Seems to me it is easy for the cops to vist the brothels and check ids to make sure everyone is of legal age and in the country legally. You can't do that if there is no brothels, then they just hide where you can not find and resuce them.


Living in the solution

The solution would be to decriminalze all consenting adults who meet n private, meanwhile creat LONG TERM services for women who want to exit the indsutry, but until we are ready to give these women long term housing, heathcare, education, transportation and counseling, then nothing will change.

People want to rid their communties of us,offer us no services and some want to tax us so we can be exploited further by our government who hasn't even provided us sanction and protection under the law. That clearly shows the decrimination and HATE CRIMES against sex workers.


No to regulation

Regulation will lead licensing which they will place huge fee'son, then they will demand we work in certain loactions and we do not all want to work in brothels. The only regulation we need is to not permit solicitiation in public and exploiting a minor or trying to purchase sex from a minor, and of course exploiting an adult against their will.

So any indoor prostituion in private between consenting adults would need no regualtions., if we simply decriminalzie them. None of my clients would go to a brothel to see me, they much rather come to my home or hotel

Had we not creating laws that discriminated against a sex worker we would not need any additional laws. If you don't get to regulate who, where and when I have sex for free than you don't have the right to regulate me if I charge a fee.

Unless we are prepared to REGULATE ALL SEX BETWEEN ADULTS to include testing, then we can not ask this of the sex worker. It is clearly discrimination.


How they lie

Well in the US when the attorney general office went after Craiglist they lied to the media and said CL was not cooperating. However CL did require phone verifcation on all their accounts plus they got your credit card info to insure you are an adult plus they monitored the IP addrrses and turned them over to the cops.

This is how they caught the Craiglsit killer, Craiglist gave them the mans Ip address and they tracked him to his home, meanwhile after he killed the girl in Boston he went to Rhode Island where indoor prostitution was still legal and he robbed a women and she dialed 911 and reported it and he was caught. So how were they not cooperating and how is Canda now ging after CL when prostituion has never been illegal in Canada.

The only real intention of these advocates is too keep ALL PROSTITUTION ILLEGAL. We have criminalized these women with no good cause other than our own predijuice against them and the public stigma that it is ok to not only discriminate against these women but also to commit hate crimes against them.


US hasn't foundmany victims either

Recently the FBI did a nationwide sting to find victims of human trafficking. In 3 days they made 884 arrests, they did find 69 runaway teens with their 99 pimps so over 700 tax payers were thrown in jail because they were looking for an ADULT ESCORT, allbecause of THE MORAL WITCH HUNT.

I bet if we send the cops into 884 nightclubs we could find 99 bartenders giving drinks to 69 kids. These 69 teens will be thrown in fostercare with little or no counseling and will runaway back to their pimps. rarely is any person given the 25 years for human trafficking, they will plea out and get less than 5 years,

I think law enforcment has TOO MUCH MONEY IN THIER BUDGETS, they claim they donot have the man power to monitor the sex offenders to the point it is possible to hold a girl captive in your backyard for 17 years while you on parole and are a sex offender, but we have the man power to STALK MIDDLED AGED CONSENTING ADULTS ONLINE.

Your tax dollars at work, I want to move to Canada where at least they are fighting to give women sanction and protection under the law.


No to legalization but yes to DECRIMINALIZING

Regulate what, these women should not be required to have any regulations that are not in affect for any other profession. leagliaizng them and taxing them makes the governement the pimp. if we decriminalize them they can pay taxes, they do not need tobe regulated.

The only regulations I would agree with is that you must be an consenting adult, and you can not solicit anyone in PUBLIC. More than 3 women working from a location would be considered a brothel and must be in a business zone, however up to 3 sex workers would be able to share the same work space in their home or hotel.

You do not get to make rules that say I can not have sex with another consenting adult in my home, unless we plan on ENFORCING this to all consenting adults whether you have sex for free or charge for your time.

We also can not demand these women be tested unless we plan to test all adults. Studies already show sex workers have less std's than the general public, studies also show voulenteer testing works best.

Also any person exploiting a women against her will or any minor or any person trying to purchase sex from a kid would get 25 years for their first offesne. This would give the cops the ability to show up at any sex workers location check her id to make sure she is of legal age in the country legally.

Also there needs to be a law that requires the cops to investigate any claim a sex workers has about abuse or harssment against her.

But all we can focus on is that we "have tokeep these women out of our neighborhoods"

No matter where you live and what you do for a living, on any street men try to solicit you or pick you up, you do not have to be a sex worker to be approached by men in public.


Reality check

We all know exploiting women and children is not the same thing as Consenting Aults Who Meet in PRIVATE. This would be like saying the is no difference between porn and child porn.

This is a moarl witch hunt to keep us our of the nieghborhoods and communites and these same tatics have been used to decriminate and harass sex workers.

If you can have sex with strangers in your home then so can a sex worker. if you want to regulate a sex workers heath, then we need to montor everyone's health.

I suggest that add laws that prostitutesd can not PUBLICALLY SOLICT anyone or they will be arrested for a PUBLIC NUISANCE, therefore the women will not be given a criminal record for prostituion. I think brothels should be in business zones however if less than 3 women share a location and work space they would not be considered a brothel and can live and work in their homes or hotel.

I also think anyone exploiting another person against their will or exploiting kids or trying to purcahse sex from kids should go to prison for 25 years on the first offense.

But more importantly Ithink we need to create laws that make it illegal to discriminate against a sex worker regarding heathcare, housing, education or employment, and make HATE CRIMES against sex workers illegal, also make sure law enforcment knows that if any of the sex workers file a claim that they were harassed or abused or threatened or harmed that they will fully investigate their claims and therefore provide the same sancation and protection under the law given to all citizens.

We can give these women some sort of tax id number so they can file taxes but this is not legalizing prostitution it is simply decriminalizing them, because prostitution has never been illegal in Canada, but we created laws to run these women from their communities and harass them, while we put them at great risk.


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