Can't tell if Skynet or Borg, but it's gotta be the start of something.
116 posts • joined 17 Apr 2010
Can't tell if Skynet or Borg, but it's gotta be the start of something.
Everyone took this way too seriously and missed the opportunity for fun.
Just keep spinning up and betraying "friends" until the week is almost up for your real machine. These guys will think they're going to have enough coming in at week's end to buy Bolivia and then you send a reply that just says "Nah, Fuck it." spin down all the VM's and format your machine like you were going to have to do anyhow.
This could probably be automated.
It's a funny thing but maybe an hour after that post a little lightbulb icon popped up on my Android phone telling me that I should add emergency contact info.
Now I know it's just Google trying to get me to add my relatives to their database for better ad tracking (we see your son has just died, click here for links to funeral homes with big savings), but the timing could not have been better.
Maybe if you'd spent less time trying to jam your finger up your own citizen's arseholes and more time trying to secure the network by fixing exploits instead of hoarding them...
Here's hoping every single one of your dodgy programs gets used on you in the future. Preferably by your own people.
Oh.. and don't bitch when folks encrypt their drives and their comms, it's only a natural response to your continued idiocy and egotism.
I feel inclined to supply a few more examples since Nvidia graphics cards will always be an issue until they finally stop with the firmware nonsense and release some decent source.
From personal experience with the machine I'm typing this on;
BD burners do not work well out-of-the-box on any Debian based distro. A licensing issue lead to them dropping cdrtools from the repos ages ago. The cdrkit they use is not able to close a BD data disk properly. You can compile cdrtools yourself and fix this, or run a distro that supplies it. Try one that's Arch based.
A Samsung CLP-320N printer doesn't work out-of-the-box on Manjaro. You need to remove their print driver blob and replace it with just CUPS and the Samsung unified driver from ArchUserRepos. This printer worked perfectly out-of-the-box on Mint last time I tried. (Mint 14 iirc)
Hotswapping hard-drives is not always fully supported, even when set to swappable in BIOS/UEFI. It's a good idea to use "sudo hdparm -y /dev/sd<x>" to shut it down before removal since umount won't reliably stop it spinning and park the heads. Newer Linux installs will pick up the new drive when you put it in, but some older ones needed "echo "0 0 0" >/sys/class/scsi_host/host<x>/scan". There may be a more elegant way to do this, but it's one I don't know.
These are all work-arounds I've used for this particular machine, most of the hardware has spanned multiple distro's over it's lifetime. It's been on Manjaro for the last few years and is running almost exactly how I want it to, but I'd be lying through my teeth if I said there wasn't a fair bit of tweaking involved to get it there.
I'm a Linux user and supporter, but I'm not a fanboy.
That is a really cool idea right there that I did not know even existed.
Would be a bit of a pain though if one of those machines was playing twitch shooters wouldn't it? Or is there some trick that prevents un-intentional switching?
I guess I should have said "prevented" if it's not bloody working anymore.
Thanks for the correction.
I think my brain's been cat'ing the MS pop-ups.
Grove giveth and Gates taketh away.
Such was Vista. A victim mostly of it's own marketing department. The devs had to drop most of the planned features and re-write the system to get something to market since XP had been going on too long for corporate liking. The marketing folks hyped the shit out of it (Vista Wow). When it was released it was un-finished with bad drivers and crap performance on the hardware of the day. This popped the marketing bubble and the resulting implosion did far more damage to Vista than it deserved.
Windows 7 IS the patched copy of Vista that should have been it's actual release candidate if time hadn't been such a factor for Microsoft.
Win10, as you say, has it's own core issues, but it also suffers from the marketing push it's been so ruthlessly given. Forced GWX installs, pop-up ad windows practically yelling at people to upgrade, all the sorts of things that either alienate your consumers through the perception of desperation (WinX Wow), or drive their expectations so high that failing to live up to them is almost inevitable.
Then they release a system riddled with spyware in the era of NSA concerns, and furthermore break it regularily with badly planned update roll-outs. Another bursting of the marketing bubble though maybe this system deserves it more than Vista did. (at least Vista wasn't spying on anyone)
Personally I think they should have doubled the size of the QA department instead of sacking them all and instead should have scorched the marketing department to the bedrock and focused on the development of a quality OS that would have stood up on it own merits.
But I'm not a businessman or a tech... I cut metal. Maybe they know things I don't.
Somewhere between the AC's the truth is buried.
A glance down the WIP and TODO should be sufficient to see whether you'll get a great "out-of-the-box" experience on your hardware. Note that NV130 isn't on that chart, so when you drop in your new 1080GTX assume all boxes are red.
I appreciate the hard work the Nouveau guys are doing a lot, especially in the face of the help Nvidia is giving them (none), but it's always going to be a long game of catch-up.
Those binary blobs are still a necessity for many users.
There will always be tweaking and driver issues to consider, especially on newer hardware and obscure devices, but that goes in Windowsland too.
It's just as wrong to say "Everything works perfectly out of the box" as it is to say "Built by developers for developers".
Most hardware works well and you don't need much IT experience above knowing how to google for instructions. So give Linux a try and see how you like it.
The comparison needs a bit more fleshing out to truly appreciate how incredible Microsoft really are.
Their Titanic version is sailing now while the welders are still working to join the hull. There's mechanics in the engine room that have to dodge between rotating parts in an effort to fix the fact that certain pistons just aren't getting any steam. The captain is currently not at the helm because he's trying to decide which MS ship he should captain next. They gave away all the tickets for free so now are trying to flog high-price food in the restaurant but not enough people are buying it. The merchant area is deserted. The highly mobile lifeboats have been jettisoned due to the fact that no-one was using them while the main ship was floating.
Now there's a few icecubes in the sea to deal with, but that seems like a mere technicality compared to actually keeping the whole boat from simply tipping up and dropping into the sea all on it's own.
All it needs is a catchy soundtrack.
@a_yank_lurker - There are a lot of factors used to determine the given value for "soon" at any moment for both source definitions.
Dealing strictly with Microsoft's "soon" here;
If it's a fix that will prevent a hacker from accessing your system then "soon" means between the first big media report and the next Windows release.
If it's a fix that allows you to actually use your own machine as you want to then "soon" means 'maybe we'll get to it after the next Windows release, but it'd be easier to just find third party workarounds.'
If it's a fix that effects Microsoft's revenue stream then "soon" means in the next patch rollout if we can actually fix the issue, we'll probably break a few things trying. Eggs - Omelettes. Windows users will understand.
I was actually kinda happy about my Windows machine there for a minute and you had to go and fuck it all up.
I'd forgotten they plan to roll out dungball patches in the future for all their releases.
(I was going to say "tarball" but that's already taken by a vastly more respectable application and I refuse to conflate the two.)
I finally let my Win8.1 update for the first time since the nagware began and it looks like things are back to normal. The ugly KB's are in the "recommended" section that I'm still ignoring, and the security updates didn't seem to fiddle with my system to log into MS data harvesters. (yet).
I look forward to my GWX-free future.
Wasn't GWX also the "Genuine Windows eXperience"? Kinda odd to re-use their own acronyms.
"Some of us would think of that as a security update....."
They were probably trying to turn the things ON by default to log some more valuable <cough> telemetry to make the Windows experience better for you. Since MSupdate is now Bizarro World, it ended up turning them off instead.
A patch will be issued soon.
"Linux is in the hands of the "developers" and they don't care about end users."
While I've certainly said something very similar to that on occassion, it's not entirely true and also not a game-breaking detail. Eventually someone doing dev work wants to use the program in a way that makes it beneficial for all users.
Sure a guy isn't going to sit down and say "How can I make this exactly what the people who aren't even thanking me let alone paying me want it be?" but he might sit down and say "Shit. This thing doesn't work how I want it to. I'mma gonna change that." Sometimes that change is exactly what everyone wanted. (for a given value of "everyone")
Sometimes the user doesn't even notice when there's a new and useful change;
I've been mounting .iso images and smb shares manually for so long that I didn't even notice that you can click your way through it now. (though the clicking seems more convoluted to me than the mount command, but that's just habit.). As a sub-entry to that, the mount command used to need a flag for smb. Now it just knows. That's pretty useful too.
I agree with your experience, having worked with a few like that before.
The crucial thing missing is learning, both for the robot and for the human. If they apologize for the mistake it's good, but ultimately the same mistake must be avoided in the future.
At least they aren't trying to hide it. Those are the worst. The hidden mistakes usually show up in QC, but sometimes it's the customer that finds them and that makes everyone's quality suspect.
Always best to apologize, present a way to fix the mistake (if possible) and then change your process so it doesn't happen again. Once the robots can do this they'll actually be decent workers.
Has anyone running the search bots to game this system checked to be sure it's not spam-searching PTHC and similar? I mean it'd be a good idea to know that before a van shows up outside your door.
Still... It'd be good for laugh. "Here's your $5.00 coffee and violent interrogation. Will there be anything else sir?"
"I had plenty of fond memories of Windows ME."
Thanks to those bastards at futabachannel I have an unintended soft spot for the poor, useless thing myself.
or for those who can read moonrunes
Yes, I still do have my disk.
Seriously? Not even one mention of Microsoft Bob to go with this plan?
They even had the damned dog in the article pic.
The ads could just run on the VR television like in real life, only shittier.
Given that they have made Windows as flat and featureless as possible I wonder how they'll work out a way to do this while maintaining a third dimension. Should be eye-watering.
"It's their OS. They can make it do what they want it to do. They always could."
Very close to being true and I'm sure that's how they want things to be. I have a different usage model though. There's no network cable to my Win7 machine at the moment. Let's see them find a work-around for that one.
After decades of heavy metal concerts and running machinery for a living I no longer perceive any difference in music formats that can't be solved with the volume knob.
The same decades involved enough arc welding and abrasive dust in the eyes that TV viewing is pleasurably vague in any colourspace.
After reading through all these arguments I feel I've truly dodged a bullet there.
Thanks for the info though, lots of things I didn't know I should care about and a few great websites pitching speaker cream to laugh at.
Too late to edit the last post...
Here's a guy who's sites I would have no issues visiting. I quote from one of our own here without permission or indeed concern.
>>"If the website operators (and the advertisers) are so concerned about ads being blocked, why don't they just buffer up the ads at the website server and deliver them as part of the main page?"
Started doing that at least 10 years ago - Ads are small and I limit the number of them to keep them non-invasive. They are from direct advertisers who contact me about advertising on my sites. First I check out the company. If I accept it, they produce a graphic and email it to me, I check it and minimize it. Pages don't call scripts - I keep the graphics on the server.<<
Yeah. No need for ad/script blocking at all. Nope.
Won't someone think of the poor poor small publishers who are too fucking lazy to vet the ad companies that get linked through their site? Without the ability to remotely infect your computers and destroy your data they can't make ends meet. <sob> <sob>
On another note...
...I thought ad-sense WAS android spyware.
Takes me back to Diablo.
Hacks were easy since player data was stored in local memory. Every time Blizzard "did something" to fix it all that was done was to move which value was stored in which block. A little time with a hex editor and your hacks were back up.
Bliz was a pretty large and powerful company by that time and they STILL couldn't be arsed to fix the way their game stored character data. If RIOT is barely breaking even (I haven't looked up their financials at all) then there's no way on earth that they are going to spend the cash and hours required for a fix.
"Of course you are correct that I could write my own DTP software for Linux, or just wait. In either case that sounds like decades of waiting."
Yeah, some thing HAVE taken decades to show up. Some DO require corporate backing and sometimes there aren't enough voices to make a corporation listen. Some companies will just flat-out never code for Linux due to personal bias.
To go a bit more specific to myself, the Linux CAD/CAM world will probably never see a copy of Mastercam, or Solidworks, or actually any of the major applications. There's no real interest on the Linux side to re-create a set of programs of this size and scope, and very little incentive for the software companies to write for Linux. It's just not going to happen.
I cannot change that and so Windows is still a valuable tool.
Sure, some things can run under Wine, some flakey others well. It's not a solution most folks are looking for though. Maybe a few more decades will change that too, who knows? I wasn't denying that there's some things that aren't resolved, just stating there's many things that are.
"Torvalds corporately unacceptable image"
The image of an intelligent, technically adept person who cares deeply about his product quality. Yes, I can see where that wouldn't fly with most corporate types.
Personally I'll always take quality work done by an asshole over middling work done by a caring and concerned individual. I want to use things, not cuddle with their creators.
To address the issue of Linux applications not being up to snuff, well that's kinda tied to the way Linux software gets written isn't it? The people who really want certain features have to stump up and either write or pay for such things to be written, just sitting around saying "Linux needs X before I'll use it." doesn't do much because no-one else cares if you use it or if you're ever going to.
They care that it works for them and they go to some effort to make sure it does.
I can't code worth a damn, but I can test and report and I can donate. I can also write emails trying to persuade someone with skill why they might care about a certain feature (okay, usually not with any real effect, but asking politely doesn't hurt anyone) Oddly enough almost all the features I have wanted have turned up eventually, it just took time for someone who had the same goals as me but better skills to turn up.
I think you've only diffused the attack, not defused it.
FB still has a record of everything you ever did while you were on there and access to all your "friends" as well. The demographic info will be shared with any other site that pays for it and the ads keep coming, only less personally targetted.
Maybe the witness protection program could be opened up to include Ex-Facebookers.
Similar to when you purchase a house and the very first piece of mail you receive at your new address is "We can sell your home !!"
I'd appreciate the opportunity of maybe living in it for a bit thanks. At least give me time to cook dinner.
"Spend some time searching for, and if necessary buying, some skimpy bikinis."
If I spend money on something I'm going to feel compelled to use it.
"You're projecting, my dear chap..."
Perhaps. I was just thinking the MS guys might like to have a go at the Linux folks this go-round.
After all, we (myself included) don't miss many opportunities to give MS a well earned kicking when they're down.
However other responders were much better at reading the mood than I and it seems they're either above it or just couldn't be arsed. Too bad, I'm bored after work and enjoy reading the arguments.
Except for Android phones and smart TV's (and home routers?). Those will be screwed over.
Keep your torrents encrypted. :)
Now I'm expecting some clear and insightful comments from the MS fudslingers. Don't let me down guys.
You get all my upvotes.
We need more people making pages that don't require 3 different blockers just to view them.
Today I tried using my secondary browser that has no blocking enabled to view a blog that seemed to require cookies and JS and all that nastiness...
...On my Linux machine.
I'm fair certain the creator of the site didn't intend for that to occur, but when you let every John on the stroll have a go at your CSS it's what's going to happen.
"Regular people are simply scared of an upgrade breaking something and having to learn new things. When they buy a new PC they will not have a choice."
No choice but to accept having to learn about broken software?
What a bleak, dystopian future you envision.
Speaking as a "regular person" (well, I'm not an IT guy at any rate) I'll thank you to not push that nightmare on me. I prefer my software to do it's damned job. That's it's entire point of being, doing things for me that I want it to. It does not exist to serve a corporation or a government. It exists to serve ME.
Hence my reluctance to join the Win10 march of regress. It seems to want to serve Microsoft's shareholders, the Candy-Crush guys and possibly the NSA, I am none of those things and as such do not need that software.
(okay, so all MS software can be expected to serve the shareholders... but it used to stop at the purchase price, now it seems to involve data harvesting and paid solitaire.)
I can confirm that.
1-98, 1-CE, 3-XP. All tied to industrial machines that will never move beyond that spec. All the rest are either on customised Linux or run proprietary software.
None are online. I could imagine the boss' face when I had to tell him that a $500,000 machine was down because it got an update/virus and wouldn't boot. Hard to get anything unplanned through RS232.
That was something new to me on my Surface3pro. At one point it got buggered and wouldn't initialize the screen. "re-boots" on the surface via the power button are those "quickstart" reboots and it took a little googling to get the button combo for a hard reboot. <hold the power-button & volume-up until it shuts off for real>
That's come in handy a lot of times since.
So is <After shutdown, hold volume-up and click the power button. hold the volume-up until the UEFI menu shows up> When booting from USB this allows you to select boot order and to turn off secureboot if you need to.
I got pretty sick of the usual point release guys (read - Ubuntu based) not keeping up with a few programs I actually had a need for the newest version of. After adding a few ppa's and doing a few compiles of other things and eventually getting to do it all over again after a dist-upgrade I just decided it was easier to go rolling and then I can do individual upgrades when an update I know I want comes out.
Laziness grips me though, and when a bunch of packages plus dependencies need updating I'll skip going through the Arch forums and just let everything go at once.
It's not always fatal. :)
Not sure there is a manual anymore.
I suspect that high over each of 1000 desks hidden deep within the confines of a Redmond coding sweatshop hangs a banana. For every 10 lines of code entered in a way that could actually compile the bananas lower by one inch.
Ah NoScript, my ever faithful old friend...
How many sites have you forced to render in a readable manner I may never know. Unless someone points it out for me like this.
I'd always drawn my own personal distinction as;
A beta will shit the bed and break itself.
An alpha will shit everyone's bed, break itself and everything around it.
So yeah, this is wandering into alpha-testing territory.
Sorry. All your data, programs and settings are gone. Please wipe your partitions and re-install. Every damned time we force an upgrade on you. SaaS... More like Crash course in creating boot drives and doing full installations as a Service.
Paris. Because even she's wondering what the hell is wrong with Microsoft these days.
A few machines out of 0.3 billion. Probably lusers who have Windows10, and it's own applications all installed on top of each other for 'some reason'.
My Manjaro installs have done it to me a few times. That's the downside of a rolling release.
However!! none of those breakages required a re-installation. The very worst of the lot only required me to swap video output to the onboard Intel to rollback the nvidia driver. Why they don't have "downgrade" as a default installed program is a mystery to me, it's extremely useful for those of us who sometimes let 5 months of patches happen all at once.
Actually, all the worst breakages that have ever happened to my Linux machines have happened because a Windows re-install overwrote the boot record. Those needed a CD boot and a chroot.
Any dual-booting Win10'ers out there? Does it still completely trash your MBR every time you do an install?
Actually if I recall correctly, some of these newest issues happen because it manages to trash it's own version of the MBR and renders itself unbootable. That takes skill.
Won't someone think of the poor MPAA?
They rely on high-end CG rendering farms to mass produce movies of high spectacle and low content.
Limiting their power comsumption could lead to a decline in output.
So I guess what I'm saying is...
Oh yes please.
Could we have a Black Box release of "This Is Micro Soft"?
No sarcasm there. I'd buy that just to put on a shelf as the last great thing MS ever did.
Probably wouldn't install it on a computer as the result would inevitably be horrifically disappointing, but as an art piece it'd be right up there.
Time to do a little unintentional advertising.
My preferred local parts shop still has these...
No Windows8.1 on the list but there's good old Win7pro x64 OEM... For $50 more than it was a few years ago too.
"Convergence is going to happen"
Interesting concept. How's my theoretical phone of the near future going to handle being asked to run something like Fallout4 ?
Is the docking station going to come with an SSD? The game is 30GB. Will there be a seperate processor and cooling system? Even with liquid nitrogen a phone's circuitry isn't going to handle the task. Perhaps there'll be an nvidia GTX1080 in there too to support high framerate, high resolution displayport/HDMI2 output?
At that point where's the convergence? Your docking station would be a desktop with a phone plugged into it for no reason at all.
Give me a proper desktop and a fast USB port to sync my phone and I'll have all the "convergence" I'll ever need.
Wait... We already have that?
Viva la future.
From the Microsoft User Agreement for Windows10, section 12.b
"Canada. You may stop receiving updates on your device by turning off Internet access. If and when you re-connect to the Internet, the software will resume checking for and installing updates."
I can also stop receiving updates by replacing my computer with a couple cinder-blocks and a cardboard box with a GUI drawn on it in crayon but that's not what I want to do now is it?
Given Microsoft's track record I'd be loathe to let them update my clock settings without reviewing first whether that update would remove the calendar, the system backup program, e-mail reader and windows media center (whoops, already gone)
Peripheral support in Linux is provided without much help from the manufacturer and can sometimes be flakey. Windows has always needed driver disks supplied by the vendor and will continue to do so. Win10 somehow manages to lose support for devices that had drivers in Win8.
!! and those drivers still work in Win10 if you install them yourself !!
- Based on my only experience with Win10. Some Win7 laptops at work got involuntary "upgrades" and promptly dropped their USB3 ports. I googled a bit and it turns out loading the Win8 driver from the vendor restores the ports. Good job Microsoft, I feel confident leaving my hardware in your capable SaaS hands.
...I cannot comment on the Win10 process since I'm not going to install it on any of my machines, but I'd like to address a personal view or two to the growing crowd of new Linux users.
Just like these Win10 guys you get both ears full of "It installed flawlessly for me, what's wrong with you?" and then "I could never get it to work, I hate it." all in the same thread.
Both are true actually, it really depends on what you want to do and what hardware you're trying to do it on.
I have a Blu-ray burner that I'd quite like to use, a Samsung printer I need to use and a TV in the other room I'd like to run a seperate screen over HDMI to and have sound working when it gets there preferably.
So what's the issue then? install Mint and away you go.
Nope. Mint supports the printer and the TV just fine but it's disk burning backend was cdrkit that hasn't seen an update since God rested and can't close out a BR data disk in a way that doesn't spew errors. It's easily said "go download cdrtools instead and compile that." but trying to tell a new user to install the dev tools and do a ./configure && make && make install is going to give them the screaming heebie-jeebies.
Later on I got sick of Mint actually losing it's own update repos and decided to give it a miss and move to Manjaro (no clue what release, it was 2013 though and it's been rolling along ever since)
Yay. cdrtools is right there in the repo. Easy as a pacman -S.
No printing for me though. Not until I'd chopped out their entire helpful blob of print drivers that seems to target everything except my Samsung and put in a nice clean CUPS and visited the AUR for some samsung unified drivers, also pretty easy with yaourt but now I'm having to remember two package managers for one system.
So how about that TV? Well, that was a bit of a bastard. The XFCE volume control didn't see my nvidia card as a valid sink and it took an install of pavc and one, just one, run of it to bring it up. However XFCE had no working vsync on my setup so videos tore a lot, I didn't try alternative compositors. Tried and very quickly dropped KDE. Sound was still an oddly intermittant issue and tearing was almost ubiquitous on every screen ever drawn by that system, tried every init and config trick documented but it always came creeping back. Since I liked Cinnamon so much on my Mint installation I swapped to it and haven't looked back. It has an actual working default compositor and the volume control is a breeze to use, although you can only have one of them, so no multiple screens/taskbars with a control which means if I forgot to swap sinks to the TV I'd have to go back to the computer and do it right after I'd just got comfortable.
(why are there so many volume controls in Linuxland anyhow? Seriously.)
I'm not going to go into what's going to happen when I swap to a high dpi monitor and keep the 1080 TV, that's probably going to mean a move to AwesomeWM with compton or something as the nvidia twinview is frankly shit at it's one and only job and cloning will not work... Like how I can't run the TV at 24fps without the monitor matching it for some truly ugly looking window drags.
So yeah, Win10 might be a pain that I'm just not going to deal with, but Linux isn't without it's odd bit of cantankerousness either, though I'll take every ugly, boot-breaking reversion that I've ever done a roll back from over just one forced update of my Windows box.
(Side note: I've been running Linux since Redhat 5 in the late 90's when getting your 3Dfx banshee card working meant some serious time spent banging your head on a desk and I am STILL having to go to google for commandline syntax. Yeah, I'm just that newb.)
I like how you went AC just to poke the old timers.
I think you'll find that the American robber barons actually preceded the boomers by a few generations. Not to mention it's also boomers who are writing the laws these guys are opposed to. (Tom Wheeler born 1946)
Can't say which generation you think would do a better job of running things, but as a generationX I'll say "Not mine."
Haven't tried this version yet, but the older one booted and ran really well on the surface from USB.
Touchscreen and wifi both work. Didn't test the pen or keyboard and don't have much by way of android programs to test, but MXplayer found my SD card and played video reasonably well in windowed mode and passably well in fullscreen (some control issues with the touch not mapping exactly right).
If I was a real droid user and wasn't using the surface for a drawing tablet it'd be a viable alternative to Win8.1 on that machine.