"YES Windows 8.1 is finished YES Windows 8.1 is finished "
2503 posts • joined 24 Mar 2010
"YES Windows 8.1 is finished YES Windows 8.1 is finished "
By the way :-
Microsoft refuses to release study challenging Munich Linux success
"I would struggle to see how a Windows deployment would be cheaper than a Linux installment," said Roy Illsley, principal analyst at Ovum, who added that he couldn't imagine why Microsoft wouldn't release a study that actually proved that Microsoft is cheaper than Linux. "I would suspect that they read it and they suspected that there are some errors in there," he said.
"They tried that in Munich and it has been an unmitigated disaster, that cost tens of millions in investment from IBM, etc. that will never be recovered."
"Can you explain how I can update COTS software from a repo?"
I'd hope the vendor would provide a repo. as Google does for GoogleEarth.
I suggest that you are now picking Pediculus humanus capitis
"No, linux updates all applications which come from a repo."
It is however possible, indeed normal, to have a number of repositories, I have all the OpenSUSE for my version +packman. A little care is needed when installing certain applications ( for example kdenlive needs the programs/libraries melt, mlt, ffmpeg and vlc to be from the same repo.) to get all the necessary helper programs from the same repo but otherwise as stated all software will be updated automatically, semi-automatically or not at all depending on the user's wishes.
Good luck with your decision John, try a few live CDs first
"So...what DO you do with your PC...just so we know? CAN you do anything worth the effort?"
Edit 1080p/50 video
Edit RAW photos
Generate panoramic photos
Scan/print in colour & B&W
Program in a considerable number of languages
Layout & design PCBs
Program PIC microcontrollers
Access my other (remote) machines by ssh/fish/rdp
Run a file/odds&sods server and a Samba server for the wife's Nexus 7 & phone
Run considerable amounts of scientific software including hardware 3D modeling
+ all the usual wp/spreadsheets/browsing/video watching/GoogleEarth/Skype/e-mail
More to the point there isn't anything that I want to do that I can't.
"erm, you realise that most Linux distributions have far MORE vulnerabilities than Windows XP?"
So you KEEP telling us. Makes no difference to me I wouldn't use MS OSs if you offered me a free trip to Vogsphere. Guess I'll just have to be careful
(You might actually learn something if you analysed the levels of severity of these 'vulnerabilities' )
"Try kdenlive, fantastic software with a terrible name."
"Erm, GIMP is not a direct functional replacement for Photoshop. "
I know several professional photographers who use Linux, but they don't just use Gimp. There are a number of RAW photo conversion/editing/tweeking programs that are available.
Personally I do as little to a RAW photo as possible maybe resize/tweek exposure/tweek the curves/ unsharp/save in appropriate format usually.
Agree. I installed OpenSUSE 12.3 recently on a new dual-core Intel system and it took less than 20 mins.
"Where's the Linux support? Where's the Free BSD support? Those markets are just too small to justify supporting them."
Well I know what you means, but Nvidia provide drivers for Linux, Google provides Google Earth for Linux, Firefox, Opera .......
"It isn't working though. WP sales are growing at 70% year on year, and are about to break through 10% market share in the UK...."
Do you know I've heard exactly that MANY times from some AC who posts here
"Unless you want to run business software or play games. Or do CAD. Or a load of other things."
All the more reason to explore the alternatives now before MS really let you down or turn the screw !
I've often wondered how insecure some Windows' users are that they seem obsessed by attacking, usually quite inaccurately, an OS that apparently only 1% of desktop users use. Maybe a little paranoia, a feeling of uncertainty. ?
""it's not MS / it is free" pseudo-religious aspect"
Nothing of the sort - I've been using MS software since the days of single-board computers with 6502 8-bit BASIC ( and even that had an infuriating bug ), DOS, Windows from the start upto W2000 and it's always been mediocre , and the company has always been trying to tie it's customers into its ecosystem. Fair enough if that's what you want to do or don't know any better.
I started using Linux about 1994-5 and even though there were plenty of limitations early on the system was clearly far superior for what I wanted.
As a scientist I've mainly used PDP-11s, VAX , alphas, SGIs and then big Linux workstations and compute farms - WIndows had no place in that except for the usual corporate guff of Exchange/Word. ( Excel was never powerful enough or indeed capable of handling the dataset sizes needed for our research work )
"(1) Since I buy "complete kit" from Dell/Lenovo/HP etc. since more than a decade instead of self-assemble the Windows is "no extra cost" for all practical purposes"
The 'cost' is that you buy into and reinforce a monopoly and one that has shown itself to have only one interest - itself. People here are always going on about not wanting even a duopoly in mobile and yet de facto is a desktop monopoly (an arrogant and increasingly irrelevant one)
"Existing hardware does not run or only with certain distribution/kernel combinations"
The usual solution is to try a live Linux distribution to SEE if all your hardware works - it usually will.
"no higher cost "industrial solutions""
All my stuff is consumer grade, cheap Samsung laser, cheap Brother laser, old Epson laser cheapest Epson scanner/printer, the only 'special' I bought was a new Nvidia card so I could use hardware video acceleration for playing back 1080/50p H264 video without using all the processor and that was only £50.
"Software for i.e my DSLR is Win only"
Guess what - I have 2 DSLRs Canon 300D and 550D and I don't use Windows. There are plenty of RAW processing programs for Linux. Occasionally if you buy a very new camera as I did with the 550D it takes a little whole for the programs to catch-up - 2 weeks in the case of the 550D.
The situation you raise with unsupported hardware is not one I have experienced.
I've had 3 laser printers, 1 inkjet, 1 scanner/printer, accelerated graphics card, 3G dongle, serial/USB converter, PIC programmer, 4 cameras, 2 video cameras, 6 webcams/notebook cams, USB telephony headset. Even the HDTV will work as a dual-monitor setup with the laptops/netbook
This with OpenSUSE 12.3 or earlier
That wasn't really the point. I was trying to show that that downloading or compiling a program in a user space wasn't a very subtle way of introducing a malicious program
By the way even if I was as rich as Gates I wouldn't even contemplate using Windows.
"I tried it in Chromium just now"
It certainly wouldn't in Firefox !
"You can install software on Linux without the admin password"
Well of course you can, you can also compile your own and run it from within your own account - but you can't readily allow global execution. Neither of these is a subtle introduction of malicious code to a machine
"I do not know any Linux desktop users who have any money to steal."
Well I'm sitting here in my Swiss apartment reading this on my Linux desktop, with a Linux netbook nearby and connected by fish: to my Linux server in UK. When we go home I'll process my holiday videos/photos on one of the Linux workstations and then go on holiday again in our motorhome . Rich ? not by Gates' standard but pretty well off after a lifetimes work and saving and investment.
Linux by choice - it does all that I want
How are holidays on Vogsphere ?
"The initial phase of the project simulated the cortex of a cat brain on an IBM BlueGene massively parallel supercomputer with 147,456 cores and 144TB of memory developing the basic synaptic circuits for the brain chip. ®"
After immense amounts of 'thinking' about going out or eating the compu-cat decided to wash its bum instead
"I'm assuming here your bank doesn't force JRE down your throat then?"
Have you got an example - I've never found one. ( 3 banks, 2 building socs, 1 credit card company)
"You really can't take a straw Dalek seriously"
"Indeed - a lot of the time my workstation is like that, then again a lot of the time it spends with a load way over 7"
Agreed, I'm rendering 1080p/50 video in H.264 and both cores are running melt @ ~70% cpu whilst letting me browse this forum smoothly. If I had more cores available I'd be transcoding already rendered video to 720p/25 for playback on a laptop and if I had more I'd be setting up another editing session by generating proxy clips.
"These non desktop solutions are not computers in the desktop sense"
Can't help but agree with that ! ( must be equivalent to a NULL statement )
"That I wear my pants inside out to get an extra days wear out of them?"
Save water - use recursion !
"The companies are aligning their engineering, technical, and testing teams to harden Linux and Windows as part of the re-upped deal."
You seem to have missed this bit !
I want an arrow and "Mostly Harmless"
"on the SharePoint servers that NSA Hawaii needed,""
They really deserve their hardship pay !
"trying to do the same on an old Dell laptop"
always try a Live CD if installing on 'new' hardware. That should show up any major problems ( if any)
"Anyone who says the current state of graphical environments on Linux is good, is full of crap and preaching from the open source bible. X-windows sucks at dealing with monitors dynamically - especially multi-monitor,"
Thank you for joining today to post this but I happen to have different experiences. Plug a monitor into my laptop or netbook and it's recognised and I can use it as a second monitor or display on both. No fuss -it just works.
This on OpenSuse 12.3
"Linux Graphics... is rubbish "
I didn't know that - here's me spent years building protein structures and manipulating thousands of atoms in stereo 3D and all the time it was rubbish. Same with editing 1080p/50 video and playing back the same with hardware acceleration - all rubbish -I'm shocked. Next time I convert RAW DSLR photos I must remember that it's all rubbish I'm experiencing
I think those of us who only use Linux for everything don't have the problem.
"There is binary blobs in the kernel "
Care to enumerate.
"Dogbert's Mission Statement Generator"
I ACTUALLY worked in a department in a company that believed ( the company that is) in dept. mission statements. The Dept. ( a VERY cynical bunch) generated their's by Dogbert's excellent site and either nobody noticed or nobody dared notice in the suits dept.
"“We will pull together disparate engineering efforts today into a coherent set of high-value activities,”"
Dogbert's Mission Statement Generator
"The $ is only needed because of the ' '"
Sorry about that , that's nonsense, IF you put $ in you NEED ' '
"Also, I'm not sure what that $ is doing in that line. Typo?"
AFAIK echo $'The Register on Pi-Lite' can be reduced to echo The Register on Pi-Lite
The $ is only needed because of the ' '
"I guess the NSA aren't even pretending to hide any more.."
Open SOURCE !
"And switch to LibreOffice. A Java-based office suite that runs on all platforms."
Just to pint out that OO/LO is NOT Java-based - it just uses Java fro some activities and one of the project aims is the elimination of Java
From : http://www.libreoffice.org/download/system-requirements/
"For certain features of the software - but not most - Java is required. Java is notably required for Base."
"no need for expensive and dangerous explosive projectiles"
Depends what the target is. A conventional shell with proximity fuse could destroy a target that you didn't hit - this is the likely scenario given the range, however with a railgun a soft-bodied target might simply be holed and without any significant mass to deliver the kinetic energy to it would be like a rifle-bullet hitting tissue paper unless it hit something heavy or vital.
Anyone know what the likely velocity is at ~300kms ??
Ah, yes. Pyke, The Unknown Genius - think that was the name of the book
"Erm. you know BB10 was already completely hacked, right? http://www.secunia.com/advisories/53778"
That'd be along with every other system using the below versions Adobe Flash then - and you really should use "potentially"
"Successful exploitation may allow execution of arbitrary code.
The vulnerability is reported in the following products and versions:
* Adobe Flash Player versions 11.5.502.135 and prior for Windows
* Adobe Flash Player versions 11.5.502.136 and prior for Macintosh
* Adobe Flash Player versions 188.8.131.528 and prior for Linux
* Adobe Flash Player versions 184.108.40.206 and prior for Android 4.x
* Adobe Flash Player versions 220.127.116.11 and prior for Android 3.x and 2.x
* Adobe AIR versions 18.104.22.1680 and prior for Windows
* Adobe AIR versions 22.214.171.1240 and prior for Macintosh
* Adobe AIR version 126.96.36.1990 for Android
* Adobe AIR version 188.8.131.520 SDK and Adobe AIR version 184.108.40.2060 SDK
"So why are Linux desktops doing similar big re-vamps"
a) Not all of them are.
b) If you don't like a particular desktop you can either customize it or change it for one of several others.
with MS now WYSIWYG but not in a good way.
"doesn't have a funny key with four-square flag"
Almost all my keyboards ( except for some wonderful original 286 IBMs) have this but it doesn't do anything useful ( I always use Linux), mind if I was using Windows I guess it would be even more useless