* Posts by Logicub

5 posts • joined 9 Apr 2010

Apple iPad

Logicub

comparison

I love the fact that there are conversation going on around the internet about Android hailing what it *will* do later this year and how all is good and right in the Android world because of a pending update to the system. But, goddamnit, iDevices just don't multi-task NOW! Stupid Apple...

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iPhone 4.0 SDK bars un-Jobsian code translation

Logicub

Digging deeper...

1:) Funny, when it suits the argument of a hater, the iPhone is nothing but a dumb phone. Then, all of a sudden, it's a computer... When you need it to make a point.

2) The customer service surveys aren't something done by Apple. They're independent and cover a cross section of the population... Fact is not the plural of anecdote.

3) Only hearing the cliche from people that assume and hate... there are precious few negative stories coming out of the approval process now that it's only Opera that's hitting the news... Even the haters can't dig anything new out.

4) Microsoft's WM7 will be as locked-down as the iPhone. They're throwing out over a decade of development and starting a'fresh copying Apple's market model.

5) Not killing a thing, just keeping some quality control. Saying you can't use tool set x to create software for platform y hardly constitutes killing an entire industry... Go use visual studio to create a game for the PS3 and see how far you get.

6) Thank you, that story had passed me by. Still, come on, the story's almost a year old and they were very much still getting to grips with things then... Anything a bit more recent and, you know, relevant?

7) It's lucrative enough for those that are in it, and Macs are a growing market and will continue to be so. Best get in quick while the market's still growing!

Then don't learn objective C, nobody cares, but you're missing out on a market on a lot of money... If you want to earn money, you need to learn the necessary tools for the trade... It's the same everywhere else and you are *not* deserving of special compensation. There are thousands of people who are happy to put a bit of time in and learn new skills.

8) Wipe your glasses clean. Android and Apple are going after different markets. Apple's customers want devices that just work. Easy to download apps, a wonderful user interface that's a breeze to use... I'm sure you've heard the many arguments. Android, and I do think Android's great for what it's worth here, is going after the geeks that want to tinker. Both OS' have great devices, if you don't like Apple's system, just leave alone and shut up.

Of course, it's worth pointing out that very little money is being made for developers on Android precisely because of their market; people that want to tinker and hack and potentially won't think twice about cracking a piece of software to install it for free... People with iPhones are more willing to spend money, regularly if the desire arises, to buy great quality software.

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Let's go through that one at a time, shall we

Wow. This is one of the most amazing comments on this thread! Let's go through one point at a time...

1) Any Apple computer you buy is yours. Terminal is a wonderful tool that gives you unfettered access to the system. Apple do not tell you what you can and can't do with a Mac.

2) Apple - #1 for customer satisfaction with Laptops, desktops, and now mobile phones too... For many years with only a few blips away from the number 1 spot. They are very much very reliable, and very dependable.

3) You need to stop submitting to the App Store of 2 years ago and stop dredging up these old clichés. The App Store approval process, whilst still not perfect, is orders of magnitude better than what it was... All that's asked if you want to make money, and potentially lots of it, through Apples platform, is that you abide by their rules. You don't pay Jobs to submit applications to OS X. Although, you will be giving money to Gates/Ballmer for submitting to Windows Phone 7... If you're making comparisons, at least make accurate ones...

4) Well, fine. But Microsoft have said they'll be doing it. Even do-no-evil-Google have done it... It's almost standard practise these days. Again, abide by those rules and you'll likely be fine.

5) They're not pulling anything. Other people have discovered ways of making money by giving other people tools to make shovel-ware, and Apple are trying to reign in some quality standards. If you're using these tools, you are not a developer!

6) Never heard of this. Neither has a brief Google. Happy to be proven wrong if you have proof.

7) Objective C is generally used on Apples platform, true, you're still free to use your skills in the lucrative OS X market. Besides, C, which it's based on, is actually kinda popular out there in the real world.

8) Bu-dum Tsch! Well done for ending on a joke :)

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Logicub
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Grow up

You mean, just like it is for Windows, Mac and Linux? Or PS3, 360 and Wii?

Diddums. If it means you get a better experiance on each platform, who loses? If you, as a dev, are making oodles of money then you damn well better put the effort in to make it.

Great cross platform development? Sure, for shovel-ware shite that not worth downloading

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Elite?

Seriously? Elite? Go Wolfram some figures,The iPhone OS dev community is the largest dev community for *any* mobile platform! Anyone with a Mac can start developing applications, splash out a mere $99 (have you seen what MS are going to charge!?) you could start earning thousands!

Elite?

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