* Posts by BillG

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Uber sued by ex-Lyft driver tormented by app maker's 'Hell' spyware

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The Gospel of the Valley

@AC wrote: The Gospel of the Valley is: "You shall disrupt and Regulations are for losers".

Thanks. That explains a lot.

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Teen charged with 'cyberstalking' in bomb hoax case

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Re: "tumour"

I'm not a brain surgeon, but I don't see how a tumour could impair his ability to understand that what he was doing was wrong...

Unfortunately, for him right or wrong may not factor into it. For someone that is biologically cognitively impaired, this bad behavior might satisfy a hardwired emotional need in his damaged mind. It doesn't excuse his behavior, it just explains it.

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Trump's self-imposed cybersecurity deadline is up: What we got?

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Re: I see you "I am not a crook".

"I did not have sex with that woman"

Which reminds me of a joke that was timely in the 1990's:

Hillary: "Are you having sex with your boyfriend?"

Chelsea: "Not according to daddy!

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It's ironic that Team Trump refer to liberals as snowflakes when it's Donald blowing up on Twitter whenever he doesn't get his own way.

No. A "snowflake" is slang for someone who means well, but is naive and/or very inexperienced. I'm a Kennedy Liberal and I'm not a snowflake.

An example of a snowflake is someone who thinks if there are starving people in a country that just sending them food solves the problem. That's well-meaning, but false. Sending a country free food to feed starving people creates more starving people. That's because the influx of free food drives down market prices of food, which depresses the economy, which drives up unemployment, which creates more hungry people.

A snowflake thinks that people who come to the USA illegally are well-meaning families that want to eat. For the vast majority of them, that's not true. Anyone who can get into the USA legally, can do that. Many illegals are people that don't pass the border checks, so they some to the USA illegally. My personal experience with illegals in the USA have all been criminals - one lawsuit and one court case, in both cases illegals taking advantage of technicalities that hurt U.S. citizens and benefit themselves. I sat on a jury trial where a woman here illegally tried to avoid deportation by making false claims of rape, which got her a temporary green card. She had been doing this for years, and never tried to become a U.S. citizen. We the jury found out women here illegally do this all the time. There are other legal loopholes illegals take advantage of that hurt U.S. citizens, meanwhile they have no intention of becoming U.S. citizens because the loopholes give them benefits.

Sanctuary cities are where illegals are basically used as slave labor, paid sub-minimum wage, taking jobs away from lower- to middle-class people. This is why sanctuary city governments don't want these illegals to become citizens, once they are citizens they can operate above-board and have the protection of the law.

A snowflake is someone who draws naive conclusions about people they have never met.

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IDF now stands for Intel Ditches Frisco: Chipzilla axes annual tech conf

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Typically these conference cancellations happen when a semiconductor company is going though a dramatic change in product and market policy.

Intel seems to have found a place in consumer products that need sensors. The Intel Edison is their hottest seller since the Pentium. The Quark D2000 is another hot seller. The Quark SE adds intelligent sensor processing and a pattern recognition coprocessor. The Curie is a sensor processing powerhouse in a tiny package. All are supported by inexpensive Arduino platforms.

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'Nobody's got to use the internet,' argues idiot congressman in row over ISP privacy rules

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Senior Moment

"Nobody's got to use the internet."

That seems to be the opinion of many people over the age of 70. These are people who didn't make their money using a keyboard.

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Burger King's 'OK Google' sad ad saga somehow gets worse

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Best Commercial

Best Burger King commercial ever - I give you - Manthem!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9e4QD1zm0Q

Of course it was banned.

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Gordon Ramsay's in-laws admit plot to hack sweary celeb chef's biz

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Re: Holy drama lama mama!

The mistress is a diversion. Does anyone not believe the hack was purely financially motivated?

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FCC kills plan to allow phone calls on planes – good idea or terrible?

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Re: +1

If they allow passengers on planes to talk on cell phones, I think fellow passengers will end up strangling them using the free audio headset cords.

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Radio hackers set off Dallas emergency sirens at midnight as a prank

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Re: But there was no emergency.

AC wrote: Sorry, no can do. Texans don't like regulations, or taxes, or laws, or paved roads, or fire engines that cost money.

Most of Texas government projects are paid for by property tax dollars, which is spent by the county. That's for a very good reason - regardless of country, the higher up your tax dollars go (city, county, state, federal) the more wasted dollars. So keeping the money at the county level is more financially efficient.

When something crosses county lines, bonds are issued. Right now the highways surrounding Dallas/Fort Worth are being rebuilt. No tax dollars were spent, it was financed by a $1.02Billion bond issue. That's right, Texans choose to spend their own money to improve Texas.

By law, Texas runs a balanced budget and occasionally runs a surplus. Dems have, for years, salivated over the wealth & health of the Texas economy and a few years ago they were looking for a way to siphon off Texas' money and, uh, "distribute it to other states" - very highly unconstitutional.

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Re: Doesn't sound like an important newstory to me.

If you live in certain areas, when you hear those horns go off, it can be an ass-pucking experience.

This is no laughing matter - it's as serious as a heart attack. This is the middle of tornado season and those horns save lives.

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Twitter sues US govt to protect 'Department of Immigration employee' who doesn't like Trump

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Didn't Obama do the same thing a few times? In one case had his DOJ subpoena Twitter and Facebook to reveal the identity of accounts of WikiLeaks supporters. A U.S. District Judge for DC upheld the subpoenas.

BTW you won't find this if you use Google, you have to search using Bing or DuckDuckGo.

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FCC Commish: Hey, don't look at me – Congress should sort out net neutrality mess

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Re: Ultimate Responsibility (@Swarthy)

Swarthy, I agree with you in theory, but in practice that is not what is happening.

For example: The FCC creates a ruling that ISPs may not divulge private data. While laws regarding privacy apply to the government and certain professions (legal, medical, etc) there is no law that this FCC ruling is based upon. As I recall, when Obama was elected and the Dems controlled both houses there was a push for a law regarding internet privacy, but the Dems did not take it up. So the FCC creates this ruling (don't know when) and it is treated like a law, with penalties.

For your EPA example, created with the charter/purpose of ensuring clean air and water, the definition of what is "clean" is broad enough that it can be subject to self-serving interpretation. Does the science support manmade global warming? Who at the EPA decides whose science to believe on this issue? If the EPA decides CO2 levels must be capped, on what are they basing this? Can EPA rulings be crafted without the intention of benefiting the environment, but to deliberately restrain trade to benefit outside interests (OPEC donates to politicians, who prevent new pipelines for North American oil)?

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Re: Ultimate Responsibility

At its core, the issue is this: can agencies and commissions like the FCC, FTC, EPA, etc. issue what they call "rulings" that basically are treated like laws that were not approved by Congress.

When these organizations are part of the Executive Branch, it's basically the President creating laws without Congress' approval which is a violation of Separation of Powers.

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Adblock Plus owners commandeer Pirate Bay man's tip jar Flattr

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Dinner Bell for Hackers

...users will be able to pay any website they visit with just one single account. Implemented as a browser extension,...

Stop.

I'm not installing a browser extension that spends my money. It's like sounding the dinner bell for hackers.

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Webcam sex blackmailer faces extradition to Canada to stand trial for bullied teen's suicide

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Power of Words

@Moosh wrote: I think one of the major issues is that many people are still completely ignorant of the internet and technology in general.

Good point, but the real issue is very retro. Many people just do not understand the power of words.

The psychology of language, including neurolinguistics, is very powerful and as we've just seen and we can all agree, very dangerous to the point where carefully chosen words can wound or heal.

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Murder in the First

If he intentionally drove her to suicide (as he claimed), and since there was obviously malice aforethought, he should be charged with first degree murder.

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Startup remotely 'bricks' grumpy bloke's IoT car garage door – then hits reverse gear

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Re: Sigh

@adnim wrote: People are born ignorant, stupidity is earned. Trust was once also earned, now it is blindly given.

Thanks for that, it seems to sum up today's herd mentality to trust personal privacy and security to IoT products run by strangers.

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Head of US military kit-testing slams F-35, says it's scarcely fit to fly

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Re: Doesn't like humidity

+1 to @fajensen for the RoboCop reference.

there are fatigue problems in the tail; the arresting gear on the F-35A variant is good for one landing only; the F-35A and F-35C show excessively high air flow temperatures around the engine; and the horizontal tail overheats in a Mach 1.5 run.

How the hell did this happen? This is WAY past incompetence, it looks like criminal indifference!

How does one design this level of crap into a machine and believe that it will not be detected later on? I'd like to see Reg dig deeper into this. None of this is new, there were articles on the F-35 cockups back in 2011.

There is a correlation that the number of military and politicians on the oversight committee for an aircraft is directly proportional to the time it takes to develop an aircraft. The F-177 had 7 people on the oversight committee and it was finished quickly. The F-22 had 130 and it was a cluster-f*ck.

In 2009 the F-35 oversight committee allegedly had over 300 people.

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BMW chief: Big auto will stay in the driving seat with autonomous cars

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Re: Well...

There are many people offering opinions here that I suspect never designed automotive electronic systems. Basically, it is about two-thirds straightforward engineering and about one-third nuance that comes from experience, experience, experience.

Believe me, the car companies know what they are doing and they are further along with EVs and autonomous driving than everyone else. They are just more secretive than Silicon Valley.

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Uber wasn't to blame for robo-ride crash – or was it? Witness said car tried to 'beat the lights'

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Re: Well, if Uber's cars are programmed in a manner consistant with the rest of Uber's philosophy

The woman who got hit should get Samuel T. Cogley to defend her.

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BDSM sex rocks Drupal world: Top dev banished for sci-fi hanky-panky

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Re: Salem reunited

Whatever happened to "Whatever happens between consenting adults..."?

Appropriate icon chosen. If Garfield gets a lawyer, Drupal's gonna get SUCH a spanking... bad Drupal. Bad, BAD Drupal!

When you respond to my post, click the Submit button gently. That's it, good.

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Your internet history on sale to highest bidder: US Congress votes to shred ISP privacy rules

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Re: Oxymoron alert.

Does anyone not believe that ISPs are selling your info anyway?

The Google Rule: Once a company has your private information, they will ignore laws and EULAs and sell it anyway.

This should be a Ferengi Rule of Acquisition.

That's been proven again and again. Doesn't make it right. Me, I'm looking to use a VPN from home from now on.

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How Ford has slammed the door on Silicon Valley's autonomous vehicles drive

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Re: Security ???

Having worked designing microcontrollers into cars for 15 years, let me tell you how it works in Detroit:

Yes, each car manufacturer will initially have their own standard, like J1850, but eventually they will all standardize, like CAN.

If you supply an embedded system to Detroit, they want your code. If Apple or Google wants to supply an app or OS to Detroit, they must give the car companies their code and that is a major sticking point. They supply the code to Ford and Ford implements it. Changes are painful, it's not like patching your phone, for any code change there is paperwork, testing, months of more testing.

And this is critical - if Google offers an app, they cannot just update it on Google Play. Ford et al MUST APPROVE the new code!!! Google HATES THAT!!!

Apple and Google get no data. Nothing. Ford/GM/Chrysler do not share any data with suppliers. Apple and Google will get no "driving data goldmine" and that is where Google and Apple are freaking out because they are either being told no data sharing or being teased so Google/Apple will share information. Toyota and GM were the first to shout a hard NO on sharing.

Also, while Apple and Google are used to being able to dictate terms Detroit does not like being told what to do.

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USA can afford golf for Trump. Can't afford .com for FBI infosec service

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Re: @James 51 .... WRONG!

@AC wrote: Hillary Clinton's hatred for the FBI, Secret Service, or anyone wearing a uniform, is well known and well documented.

Secret Service agents were always complaining that Hillary was demanding that agents carry her bags, fetch her a beverage, etc. She once famously scolded her daughter Chelsea by pointing at an agent and screaming "You don't want to grow up to be like him!"

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If you were cuffed during Trump's inauguration, cops are trying to crack your smartphone

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Re: Felony Rioting

@redpawn: See the below link:

NBC News: More Than 100 Inauguration Day Protesters Indicted on Rioting Charges

Take a look at the video. "Protesters were armed with bricks and hammers...several police officers were attacked."

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Felony Rioting

These self-described anarchists were charged with felony rioting. They broke windows, vandalized an ambulance, attacked police, tried to break into a bank. They set fire to a limousine. Some were charged with assaulting police officers.

They threw rocks and bricks at police, buildings, bystanders. Some bystanders ended up in the hospital. There was over $100,000 in damage. The average age of the protesters were 27 years old. On arrest, many already had expensive lawyers ready to come to their aid.

This was in DC on inauguration day. This is not a day to mess with police!

These were not peaceful protesters. These were people whose sole intention was violence. By law, you lose certain rights when arrested, especially if your intention was violence, violence, and more violence.

This organization is highly organized and this was not their first riot. The police have the right to uncover how they are organized so they can keep innocent people safe by preventing similar riots from these same people.

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As ad boycott picks up pace, Google knows it doesn't have to worry

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Re: Excellent

There will be no refunds for brands that have been defrauded. That money is in Google's coffers, and if you're a brand or an agency, you can consider it spent.

"Once you have their money, never give it back".

- Ferengi First Law of Acquisition

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Decapitating Rockall: How a 1970s Navy expedition blasted the top off the Atlantic islet

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Very interesting read. Thanks, Gareth.

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Microsoft cloud TITSUP: Skype, Outlook, Xbox, OneDrive, Hotmail down

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The company I work for has many of these services, thankfully we've had no service interruptions today.

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Nest cameras can be easily blacked out by Bluetooth burglars

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Nest is aware of this issue, developed a fix for it, and will roll it out to customers in the coming days.

Translation: "We really couldn't be bothered until El Reg made this public".

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Airplane bomb fears spark America's laptop, tablet carry-on ban

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Re: This could really hit Macbook Pro w/touchbar sales...

Sounds like it worth covering all ports/access screws with tamper proof stickers during flight too, for any device put in the hold,

Brilliant. Why didn't I think of that? I just looked at several listings on eBay for customized tamper-proof stickers.

Or how about an independent circuit that turns on the laptop's screen cam when the cover is lifted?

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Google's stock rating downgraded as YouTube ad boycott contagion goes global

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Re: Draining the Swamp

I'm new to U.S. English, but it seems to me that when someone Drains a Swamp, it usually involves giving those in Big Business more power and influence.

No, it's the opposite. Foreign & domestic Big Business is all up in the U.S. government because unless you are a billionaire, you need big business' money to get elected. When elected, you owe those businesses, big time.

The corruption is institutionalized; it is treated as normal. Think of the "criminal mentality". Criminals believe that they are allowed to get away with corruption, and that any attempt to stop the corruption is wrong. Same mentality as strippers.

Think of the big bad boss you used to work for. You'd show them the right thing to do, and to your surprise they'd ignore it in favor of the blatantly selfish thing to do, with the arrogant attitude that they are entitled to do it. If you fight against them, they accuse you. Think of Uber.

When you try to eliminate institutionalized corruption, they rebel. The swamp always fights back.

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Re: Why should it be the advertiser's responsibility to fix this

@DrXym wrote: I am quite certain Google has the means to identify the majority of viewed content that promotes hate speech, terrorism, misogyny etc.

Don't they already do something like that for China for all Google content?

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Google's motto in 2004: "Do No Evil"

Google's motto in 2017: "MUAH-HA-HA-HA-HAAAAAA!!!"

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Google promises policy review after several big brands pull YouTube ads

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Re: You miss the point

@Mark 85 wrote And then there's money being paid to the jihadis....

Exactly. More to the point, YouTube is directly funding terrorism, which puts them in direct conflict with the laws of the U.K., U.S., and E.U.

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Re: You miss the point

"We don't believe that censoring the existence of ISIS on Google, YouTube or social media will dampen their impact really," said Google's chief counsel David Drummond.

Reading the above, that's honestly the coldest thing I've ever read.

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Russian! spies! 'brains! behind!' Yahoo! mega-hack! – four! charged!

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Re: "Russian Federal Security Service"

They have talking horses ?!?

Of course, of course!

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Do you use .home and .mail on your network? ICANN mulls .corp, .mail, .home dot-word domains

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.corp, .home and .mail etc.

As for the 15 companies waiting to hear what will happen to .corp, .home and .mail

Great. More TLDs for spammers.

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Is Tesla telling us the truth over autopilot spat?

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OEM Safety

@captin_solo wrote: The whole reason the OEM auto companies have been so much slower than Tesla on many of these technologies is that they have a century of experience integrating technology into vehicles and testing and developing them over generations of model designs to ensure safe and reliable operation as well as recognizing that if they put tech into a vehicle, it could be on the road for 20 years. A time scale Silicon Valley never has to think about.

Having ten years experience working in Detroit designing automotive electronics systems, let me back up everything Captain Solo has said.

The OEM auto companies have a background of mistakes, failures, and lawsuits to back up their designs. Learn from mistakes. Learn from other's failures. In the beginning I'd be looking over some engineer's shoulder, looking at his schematic, and I'd ask something like "what is that capacitor doing there?" The answer was that, while not immediately necessary, there was a 1 in 5,000,000 chance that this and that would happen under less than ideal conditions, causing the car to stall/stop/shudder/etc, and that cap prevented that.

Real world example: "Why are you grounding the heater core? There's no reason for it!", Well, when you have hot fluid going through a metal container a slight electric charge builds up, and over time (10+ years) degrades the core, so that eventually the core springs a leak. Not immediately obvious. There are hundreds of examples like that, and all that knowledge is in the most senior engineers (50yrs+) at Ford/GM/Chrysler/BMW who are cared for and coddled because they are the Keeper of the Secrets. The system allows them to mentor the younger engineers so they know the secrets.

For me it was an eye-opening experience when I started working in Detroit. I came from computers and MIL-SPEC, and automotive quality control put them all to shame. Most commercial quality semiconductors were guaranteed to fail in cars within five years. Automotive Q-100 quality put MIL-SPEC to shame. Extremes of searing heat and chilling cold, constantly on, voltage spikes, extremes of dryness and humidity. Silicon Valley does not think like that. It's all get it out fast, release fast. If it fails three years from now, who cares, our next gen will be out by then.

I can tell you there is an unofficial, informal sharing of safety-related information in the automotive electronics community despite the competitive nature of it all. If Tesla is not sharing, then they are not part of that safety community. Claiming something is an auto-pilot when the manufacturer of the system strongly objects to the term is putting sales over safety, something modern OEMs would never do and something the automotive community strongly condemns.

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Smart sex toys firm coughs up $3.75m in privacy lawsuit

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Penal-ties

Two settlement funds will be set up: a $3m pot for users of the app affected by its data-slurping activities, and $750,000 for purchasers of the actual vibrator

That's a stiff penalty.

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WikiLeaks promises to supply CIA's hacking tool code to vendors

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Re: @palpy: corraboration from a legit news source --

...or it didn't happen. A quick Google did not turn up news that "Obama issued a FISA order...

You should do more than that.

https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+tower+fisa+lynch&oq=trump+tower+fisa+lynch

It's no surprise that the news outlets leaning right will say this happened, while the news outlets leaning left say it didn't. That's why I wrote we need to see if it's declassified.

Yes, Obama does not issue the actual FISA order, but he can ask for one. Certainly an order to tap the phones of a presidential candidate would need to be mentioned to Obama.

Given that you post is ignorant of real-world experience, I suggest you start reading up on the real world of politics rather than ignoring anything that contradicts your obvious bias.

This USA Today article is pretty well balanced: Did Obama spy on Trump?

As former prosecutor Andrew McCarthy summarizes in National Review, the Obama Justice Department considered a criminal investigation aimed at a number of Trump’s associates. When they didn’t find anything criminal, they converted the investigation into an intelligence probe under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Elements of that story have been confirmed by The New York Times, the BBC and McClatchy newspapers... as Obama officials well know, under the FISA process, it is technically the FISA court that ‘orders’ surveillance... So, the issue is not whether Obama or some member of his White House staff “ordered” surveillance of Trump and his associates. The issues are (a) whether the Obama Justice Department sought such surveillance authorization from the FISA court,... it seems to me that there is less than zero chance that could have happened without consultation between the Justice Department and the White House.

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Re: Thank you to Assange?

The timing of his release of this information gives Trump a "get out of jail" card...

Actually, Trump doesn't need the defense. The news broke two days ago that Obama issued a FISA order to wiretap all communications through Trump Tower one month before the election. Obama's Attorney General Lynch signed off on the FISA order.

This comes shortly after Hillary released an embarrassing video where she looks like the crazy cat lady, ranting on about defiance and resistance. As if the middle class are swayed by angry protesters blocking the streets making them late for work.

Look, I believe in the two-party system where each party keeps the other party in check, but if Trump de-classifies the FISA order along with the FISA court transcripts and proceedings, we could be looking at an extinction event for the DNC. The RNC can then run rampant

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President Trump-themed escort services may soon open in China

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Re: More income that he won't pay Tax on???

Profiting from an elected office is a time honoured tradition.

Like how did Sen. Elizabeth Warren make an additional $15M in four years on a senator's salary of $174K/year?

Why does every congressperson from both parties in Washington have Cayman Island bank accounts which we are not supposed to talk about? Mitt Romney brought up Obama's Cayman Island bank account during the 2012 election, which all the media and both parties quickly shut up about.

When corruption becomes institutionalized it is treated as normal.

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Re: One wonders...

Other famous people do the same, not for opening a business, but it's a preventative measure meant to keep others from registering the trademark. This also is why famous people register "mynameSUCKS.com" for the same reason.

Clodagh really needs to read up on copyright and trademarks to understand this practice.

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That CIA exploit list in full: The good, the bad, and the very ugly

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Re: Claim drain

@Rastor728 wrote: Actually, 31 out of 50 States elected President Trump!

It has never been the popular vote to select the United States President.

With very good reason - a popular vote system is the most vulnerable to corruption and voter fraud. The main purpose of the Electoral College system is that it is inherently designed to resist manipulation. The voters do not elect the President, the States do.

Look at California - registering to vote is basically based on the honor system. Just go online, fill out the forms, and California mails anyone, anywhere a voter registration card.

Google Dog Registered to Vote in California and look at the live dogs, dead dogs, dead cats etc. easily registered to vote in CA.

As Bill Clinton famously said, "If a system can be gamed, it will".

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AMD does an Italian job on Intel, unveils 32-core, 64-thread 'Naples' CPU

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Re: About effing time

In a raid on Intel's x86 server heartland, AMD has unveiled its next shot at server market glory with Naples,...

In the Italian culture, we used to call Naples "Covo di Ladri", or "Den of Thieves".

There must be an Italian at AMD with a great sense of humor!

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Trump, Brexit, and Cambridge Analytica – not quite the dystopia you're looking for

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Re: Finally

Regardless of its other uses, some are worried by politicians using psychological profiling.

During the 2012 presidential election, in battleground state Michigan, the Obama team ran slightly different TV ads in different Michigan counties and towns. They did this by working with the cable TV companies to change the ad based on the subscriber's location.

With many people not owning home phones, and unwilling to answer a cell call from a number they don't know, telephone polling can't be trusted anymore.

For the past six months I've working with some very smart friends on a system similar to this article. Using publicly available information, we are working on predicting public trends, and also voter behavior. We got the idea from Asimov's Foundation series and what he called "psychohistory". It uses a modified version of Gregory Bateson's psychological logical levels. Very cool stuff.

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Mars orbiter FLOORS IT to avoid hitting MOON

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Re: Has the Moon

I like the ultra cool hi-res photo of this moon. Look at the amazing uncropped version:

https://regmedia.co.uk/2015/11/11/phobosincolor_pia10369.jpg

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Pence v Clinton: Both used private email for work, one hacked, one accused of hypocrisy

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Apples and Oranges

Even though it was wrong to use the server, the security risk of pence doing it was minor

Yes. Also, Pence had a government email account and he used it. As a state governor, Pence had limited access to classified material and most of that was financial records.

Hillary, on the other hand, ONLY had a personal email account and NO government email account. As Sec of State she had access to the most privileged state secrets, many of which were critical to the national security of the U.S. and allies. It's not the same.

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