Re: JLV sisk
".... I really doubt you care how the majority of the world's people live...." Apart from the fact you seem to have me confused with someone that would actually consider your opinion of any worth, you know that you in fact know SFA about what I do or have done, either here or abroad, so your baaaah-lieve as to my charitable activities are not based on fact but sulking spite. If you wish to prove otherwise then please do supply details on my past. In essence, all you are doing is dressing up your lack of counter to my point with something you like to think is insulting, based on a fallacy you want to baaaah-lieve, but actually makes no impression whilst exposing to all your desperation. Please do fail more, it's quite amusing watching you wriggle and bleat.
".....Judging by the amount of downvotes you tend to collect...." So your analytical capabilities stop at following the opinion of the flock? Wouldn't it be novel if you tried actually thinking rather than simply following the lowest common denominator.
".....You read like a member of the subspecies of American right wingers who thinks social conservatism and dogmatic laissez-faire automatically results in effective economic policies....." Wandering much from the thread? Could it be because you can't argue the points raised? Gee, the sheeple have never used that tactic before! Seriously, we need new sheeple, these ones are getting boringly predictable.
"....I am pretty sure we are both in agreement that Hollande is a looney...." That should be 'loony'. And Hollande is just a typical popularist politician trying to garner support by sticking it to the rich. That doesn't make him a loon, it just makes him smart as he has managed to pull off such an obviously daft ploy and get away with it with the voters. As Depardieu showed, if you annoy the rich too much then the global market makes it vey easy for them to take their toys and cash elsewhere. It would be interesting to see if the change did lead to a noticeable drop or increase in tax revenues, but what Hollande really cared about was keeping his base happy in tough political times.
".....Your "ideas" have about the same dogmatism and absence of rationality behind them....." It is a simple fact that the majority of the World's population do not have clean drinking water, electricity or even regularly assured sources of food, let alone indoor loos or many of the other creature comforts we would consider normal at the 'poverty line' in the West. If you wish to pretend that my 'idea' is not true, that the statement has an 'absence of rationality', then please do provide some figures to prove if only so the readers can laugh at you more. You may wish to gain some insight here (http://www.unwater.org/water-cooperation-2013/water-cooperation/facts-and-figures/en/ and http://www.wfp.org/hunger/who-are and http://www.unesco.org/new/en/education/themes/leading-the-international-agenda/efareport/ and http://unstats.un.org/unsd/demographic/products/socind/Dec.%202012/4e.xls).
".....Also because few people really take you seriously...." Once again all you are exposing is your desperate desire to be part of the flock, to be accepted, to 'adjust' your views so that they are applauded by the sheeple around you. Individual thought is obviously not just unappealing to you, you actually think someone should be ashamed of it! Unlike Hollande, I am not in the business of popularity so I can speak my mind as much as I like, especially as I also have no great concerns about not fitting in with the flock. Please try not to assume everyone succumbs to the same character failures as you commit with zeal.
"..... I never claimed third world isn't dirt poor and more so than anything hereabouts. I only called you an idiot for using it as a justification that makes it OK to disregard homegrown poverty....." So, finally, after paragraphs of your vacuous venom, we finally get to your grudging admission that you can't actually disagree with what I stated, but then you try to diminish your surrender with a lie. I never said I was justifying homegrown poverty, I actually said some of us would use the raising of the poverty line as a way of hopefully advancing the lot of ALL in our society. What I objected to was your fellow-sheeple sisk's stupid claim that 'poverty is poverty'.
".....Let's just stick to the main point then: I called you an idiot and am happily restating that position." Which is the sum of your contribution - no facts, no figures, no independent thought, just bleated attempts at insults to dress up the fact you have lost again. This is my surprised face, honest! TBH, your efforts are quite yawn-inducing.