RE: RE: RE: @ Matt Bryant 26th June 2011 15:19 GMT
"....No assumption....." Erm, yes, you just admitted it was!
"....The Internets is full of forums filled to the gunwales with descriptions of this racial profiling..." Ah, a more unbiassed and truly verifiable source of data would be hard to find than Internet forums - NOT! Please, if the best argument you can give is "an AC on some forum said so" then I really think you need to go back to kindergarten.
"....Everybody can predict the future, up to a degree..." So you're admitting you can't predict the future accurately. You're also avoiding the issue that you assume all Arizona police officers will only operate the checks out of some form of racist vindictiveness, rather than becuase they should already be doing so.
"....This is a very weak sophism..." Actually, no. You cannot get a driving licence in the US without proof you are a resident, i.e., not an illegal alien. Possession of a valid driving licence is accepted as proof of legal immigrant status. You are bound by federal law to carry your driving licence whenever driving, so if an officer asks you for your licence he is also effectively checking your immigration status. I know this as when I was stopped for speeding in Florida I was asked for my driving licence, produced my UK licence, and was then asked for my passport so they could check my tourist visa.
"....OR some cop not liking your looks..." So we're back to your childish presumption that all cops are racists. Did you ever stop to think that if all the cops were racist then the Arizona Senate wouldn't have needed to pass SB1070 to make the police enforce the federal law? If they were all racist there wouldn't be a problem, they'd be stopping every car with a brown person in it. I can only suggest your inbred ignorance is the result of a tiny and equally-self-deluded pool of aquaintances, and that maybe you should try getting out and seeing the real World rather than just taking their word for "how it is".
"....usually the cops ask only for the driving licence...." Which is also a test of legal immigrant status. You're just piling up the fail here.
".....Except if you are in AZ and are dark skinned...." Because you were at every traffic stop ever in Arizona, right? I mean, how else would you be able to make a blanket statement like that? Unless you were talking out of your prejudiced rectum, that is. Oh, and yes, automatically assuming all cops are racist is just another form of the prejudism you are frothing about. Truly you are a master of fail.
"....And yes, they can remove legal immigrant status from people who commits crimes...." And yet you fail to provide a single case where this has happened, or even the proof that there is a legal mechanism to do so, or to account for the appeals system that would make any such attempt to remove legal status for a misdemeanour very unlikely to succeed even if it were to be attempted. In short, if you stretch it any further it's going to look so silly that even five-year-olds will laugh at your "arguments".
"....And please consider the implications for the citizens of Latino origin...." What, they should get special consideration just because they are Latino? Are you suggesting only white illegal immigrants from wealthy countries should be subject to the law? That's positive discrimination, which is also illegal. Seeing as Mexico is also the home to Carlos Slim Helu, the World's richest man, your reverse racism also seems a bit insulting to Mexicans.
"....You verbal kung fu is weak..." Given that you come across as such an unaccomplished debater, totally reliant on easily debunked waffle, I can't say I hold much value to your opinion.