Re: "this is a build of Windows 10 with which you might be able to get your work done"
you'd still be able to, you just absolutely shouldn't.
4992 posts • joined 16 Nov 2009
you'd still be able to, you just absolutely shouldn't.
> So basically the rest of the EU handed Greece 200+ billion with zero chance of getting repayment?
What actually happened is that the European Commission, the European Central Bank, and the International Monetary Fund paid off about 180 billion of Greece's debts and bailed out their banks after the financial crash. Greece can't pay it back because this group (currently being termed "the troika") also implemented such savage austerity that the Greek economy has pretty much collapsed, it lost over a quarter of its GDP, unemployment is soaring, youth unemployment is at over 60% and that means that Greeks are now draining MORE cash from the government because they don't have any jobs and their pension funds have been massively raised.
This was the situation before they elected Syriza - the alternative was even harsher fiscal punishment, hard though that may be to believe, and that fiscal torture is still what the "troika" are demanding because obviously, you make a buoyant economy by paying people to be unemployed, right? (!?!)
The actual solution is for Greece to leave the Euro so that they can devalue their currency. The Eurozone doesn't want this because the so-called PIIGS have been keeping the value of the Euro nice and low which is lovely for Germany's exports.
Trouble is, bankrupt people can't buy from Germany.
True, but your £s will be worth a whole lot of drachmas.
One (other) thing that I do not miss at all about the UK is the rampant jealousy and disdain for anyone who's actually done better than you, regardless of how much harder they worked for it.
I assume you've left then?
Don't come back.
> Audi drivers, the first to tell you which car they drive even though no one is asking and no one is really that impressed.
It's an automotive iPhone.
> Thats just it though NOBODY I know actually wants or, even likes the idea of running CrApplets on a PC
And you know everyone. You're like on of those Green voters who still can't understand why Labour lost the UK Election - "Well, nobody I know on Twitter votes conservative..."
Thanks, Trevor. After reading that, I too hope Elop goes into the startup business.
I care that I'm not running Android, mainly because it's Windows ME in handheld form. Slow, bloated, eats resources, criminally insecure...
This leads me to suspect that two trolls (see first two comments) who always smear Windows Phone as hard as they can are actually Android malware authors.
> What happens to your control lines if a version of Windows was released that is not compatible with your line of robotic control equipment?
Then there'll probably be a rewrite of the drivers. After the version in use passes out of extended support so you're looking at ten years for that and a far simpler rewrite since there is no paradigm shift from NT kernel to POSIX-ish kernel involved.
Either way it'd be a cost but redevelopment from Windows -> Windows is far cheaper than redevelopment from Windows -> !Windows, as even the most simpleminded of trolls should know.
> Windows apps run very well on Linux with wine
Ok, absolute troll confirmed. Go ahead, suggest I run a robotic quality control line consisting of twelve different spectrometers from WINE. Go on. I'll wait right here.
You're either a troll or the biggest moron I've ever encountered (and I include Eadon).
Alright, I'll bite.
Backward compatibility, is the answer. Hundreds of millions of pieces of hardware that work with Windows but don't work with linux or OSX or *BSD. Billions of pieces of software that work on Windows but don't work on linux or OSX or *BSD.
Literally trillions of man-years of effort to make all that hardware and software compatible.
I don't think you realize what a staggering achievement backward compatibility in Windows actually is. Nobody else does it. The linux kernel introduces breaking changes with every major release. Apple are quite happy to fully reboot their whole OS.
Backward compatibility is what every industry that actually makes real things needs. Billions of production lines, control instruments, diagnostic instruments, even basic warehouse handhelds rely on it absolutely.
That is your answer.
I fed the troll. I apologize, everyone else.
> OK someone doesn't understand questions...
Okay, somebody doesn't understand his own words....
The question was "Why should I care?" The better question can be shortened to "why do I care so much at the exclusion of everything else, even things I claim to care about?"
And the answer is that you're a troll.
> Coming from a company that delivers a minority operating system that is diminishing, why should I care enough to take the time to criticize on every single article related to Windows or Microsoft although interestingly not on any articles unrelated to Windows or Microsoft but about technologies which I profess to care about?
A somewhat better question.
> So now, Windows analyses what type of device it is installed on, and stops installing updates once it detects that the device is no longer supported - perhaps depending on the contract it had with the OEM?
Oh look, FUD.
No. It just means you can't buy a £50 7" tablet and then transfer the license to your desktop.
Needs more Xzibit.
where did you get the MS spend from? It's not in the article.
A legitimate job for GCHQ?
I am past caring about zealots like you, with one minor exception.
I use debian at home, have done since 1998. I don't believe you've been using linux for a quarter as long because if you had, you would have learned long ago that linux isn't capitalized
It is lower-case and has always been lower-case. Being ranted at by you is like being lectured by the technically-illiterate HR person who always asks if I know any "C hash" programmers.
Nobody loves Microsoft, the same way nobody loves British Gas. It's just a company.
What can raise strong feelings are fucking infuriating retard linux fanboys who a) have no clue and b) think that by constantly telling everyone to use linux instead of their current choice* of OS they are increasing the use of linux rather than just pissing everyone off and actively harming their "great cause".
*or not choice. You tell me to use linux, I tell you to tell that to my CEO and watch him laugh at you for the ignorant shitwit you are, unless you're also planning to write drivers for the pharmaceutical measuring instruments (Kaiser, Brimrose, SimcaQ, Bruker, JDSU etc etc) that we write software to control and manage. You dick.
Icon selected because we don't have one that means "fuck off and die".
or it's a dishwasher.
I agree, but that was a true ensemble effort. Lovejoy didn't carry it alone.
Nah. Norman Stanley Fletcher, by a mile.
> Often I'll get the latest 2014 driver for their standard integrated Intel graphics and the installer will suddenly say "this is a custom version of the hardware and wont take this driver! See the OEM website for their driver!"
Ah yes, dell.com. God damn you, Dell.
> (And why do ancient icons reappear from time to time?)
Because some people would rather dick around with the posting interface than do any work.
I like the way you think but actually it's "straw".
That's a good idea, if you're looking to create the single page on the internet with the most hacking attempts.
> When did MS start selling PC hardware?
Since you've clearly been living in a cave, maybe you might want to Google "Surface Pro".
They said that Lenovo and/or some other Chinese OEMs would be upgrading qualifying users to genuine Win10. That's not exactly the same thing.
> Thank you for reminding me exactly why I need to avoid Windows OS-X like the Plague!
You're welcome. Now since you're going to avoid them, please stop spreading FUD on threads about them.
> Will you have to remove the preview than re-install windows 7/8.x before going forward again?
They've already stated that you can install clean from ISOs and provide a Win7 or 8.x key.
> Then yeah MicroSoft probably, from what I gather has the power to fork you over... e.g. kill the key...
Where did you read that? Slashdot?
It's not true.
@tony 72 - I suspect somebody wants any indication that it's free or that MS aren't going to make you "subscribe" and charge you a yearly fee or that Satya Nadella isn't going to rape your dog to be downvoted because by definition "Micro$oft == TEH EEEEEEEBILZ" and therefore anything non-negative anyone posts must be made to look wrong.
Or we just have a couple of complete bellends voting here.
Unknown BUT.... MS have never yet deactivated a key that was used for an upgrade. Since XP, you've been able to reinstall (and reactivate) the original OS without issue.
That's not to say they can't deactivate the key, just that they never have yet.
Yes, it's free.
I thought the "OS Chief" was Terry Myerson?
Gabe Aul just runs the Insider programme.
A popular instalment of George Lucas' intergalactic entertainment series, the prequel was released in 3D back in 2011, and introduced new characters which have remained long-lasting fan favourites, chief among them being Jar Jar Binks.
Obligatory irrelevant xkcd?
You didn't read it, did you?
Needs more Beeeeeeeellions.
I love meat.
However, I also like Miso soup and will give your recipe a try. Thanks.
Oh come on, who doesn't like Pakoras? I've missed them as a post-pub treat ever since I stopped working in Glasgow.
> but one is actually worth the price.... can you guess which one?
Yes, the one you can upgrade yourself.
£350 is 33% of list price for a 3 year old ThinkPad. Macbooks are not special.
So I can get a Thinkpad X1 Carbon for cheap?
If not, not interested.
And your point is...?
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