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Hardangervidda I'll get my coat
179 posts • joined 7 Nov 2009
Some of the equipment vendors offer simultaneous 2G and 4G services in one block of spectrum. The reality is that for M2M connections, only a small number of 2G carries are required, as your smart meter or other connected systems only have to phone home once or twice a day. Here in NZ, there is only one operator left running a commercial 2G and I think that will run until around 2025 when their existing M2M contracts expire. My guess is that they will shut down public facing 2G connections however few years before, as the number of non 4G phones dwindles to a tiny amount, and they (somewhat cynically) just have to mop up the handful of users who rely on it by throwing a bit of cash or hard luck at the 2G punters.
Here in NZ, the competition regulator (after a number of public complaints of mis-selling) has opened a case against the local organ of Vodafone. Basically they went down the line of their HFC product being rebranded "fibreX" to compete against FTTP (UFB is the local product name). So maybe the UK courts should have a look at the land of long white cloud instead?
We currently have an update of laws around protecting information and privacy in general. Some of the smarter people in the NZ security space are advocating for laws to match or at least complement the recently introduced GDPR European rules. Otherwise we run the risk of being a banana republic (monarchy?) in terms of trade and data protection in relation to them.
Comments I saw elsewhere appeared to infer that the connectors used by Telstra previously didn't have a broad enough frequency response to carry the re-jigged nbn co HFC signals. As now the HFC network needs to convey both DVB-C as well as broadband required under the MTM plan.
Good like Australia, here on the east island, we kind of feel your pain, but our 85%+ ftth network is coming on nicely, so we get to read all about the nbn issues before you do.
You can now run a GPRS carrier (2G low speed data) among a 4G carrier with almost no impact on the 4G services. Therefore legacy smart meters and other GPRS connections can keep their low speed, rarely polled devices (eg once or twice a day for an ID, usage breakdown and checksum) going for many years to come.
The "robots" in New Zealand are basically remote controlled shunters with the operator riding on either on the footplate of said shunter, walking alongside the wagons or in visual range of the train. Not that remote when compared to those trains across the ditch. Think of an oversized RC car but on steel wheels and tracks.
My entry level Garmin can choose which constellation (GPS or GLONASS) it uses but doesn’t seem to be able to combine them to increase accuracy.
There is work for aeronautical use on having duplicate constellations being able to be received by receivers to provide diversity of reception from different constellations but I get that GPS at the moment is the only one the American's trust for its civil aviation fleet and so on. ICAO will have a big job on their hands qualifying many of the GNSS constellations for worldwide use.
Coverage in the underground (apart from metal bodied carriages which have large amounts of glass despite the sub surface lines being rather sub surface!) is actually difficult due to size of plant (base stations and antennas) verses tunnel space needed. Some of the higher frequencies will not even go beyond line of sight. Mix that in with 19 century tunnel geometry (sharp curves...) and its very difficult to go far. The attempt at migrating the police and other emergency services to LTE (4g) based communications below ground will be fun to watch.
That may be true (and I have relatives who are Scandinavian based so I know what a proper winter is like). Its a pretty damp country on the edges however - Central Otago is one of the drier areas in the country where as somewhere like Wellington or Dunedin may not get cold (by Scandinavian standards) but the damp defiantly makes for poor health outcomes when the houses are uninsulated and unheated.
You've not met too many New Zealanders then. They love their uninsulated, unheated houses and this is in a country where you are in the roaring 40's and the odd storm arrives live and direct from Antarctica.
Well a few facts (and I'm not spark fanboi)... Spark still have something like 43% of the broadband market in NZ and thats the largest RSP (retailer) of fixed line broadband in the country.
Chorus (as one of the 4 fibre companies) are still installing their part of UFB and are on track to finish their part of the network and make streets "fibre ready". This should be by 2019 but the other fibre companies have completed their (very much smaller) builds already. So when an order comes in from a customer, there is still a bit more work to blow the fibre through the ducts and do the build on each property (be that residential or business). What Spark and UFF are doing is trying to do the final "customer build" part en mass for a street as UFF have completed their slice of the underlying UFB network around the Hamilton / Taraunga area.
Chorus have 70% of the UFB build and a lot more complicated install issues like multi dwelling units and power pole sharing problems. UFF and Northpower (two of the 3 other fibre companies) are power companies so have used their own poles to help build UFB nice and quickly for their regions of NZ.
The irony about this push from Spark is they want to migrate customers off copper (one Chorus asset that is being sweated rather nicely for the share holders) and either onto the UFB product (hello more Chorus / other fibre company income) or away from the rented infrastructure and onto their own 4G network and (I'm guessing here) even more revenue per user as no line charges for retailing the fibre product are incurred.
I think its a good thing the en mass street install. If UFF were savy and Spark agreed, they would get all the other RSPs to do the same street, so the likes of Vodafone, 2degrees and Vocus would rock up as well with their customers and migrate the whole street in one go.
Maybe the various government agencies actually now want some 700 MHz for their own network(s), so like various bits of the Australian and South Korean administrations, they want to not sell it lock stock and barrel commercially, but carve some blocks for themselves out of the band that is proposed to be auctioned.
Must have been an awkward meeting or three to make that call (of pulling the auction), so close to start date. Popcorn sales at Ikea must be sky rocketing by now.
Another point that I hadn't picked up on until the IBM submission was that they had a 40 hour outage at the request of the ABS. Admittedly they had 4 odd hours of downtime but the next 40 was not of their doing. Guessing that the ABS were too nervous to fire the IBM system back up again and went back to paper based system (and the $30M bill).
Minor correction on those Kiwi UFB numbers. UFB 1 - due by 2020 aims to reach 75% and UFB 2 is looking to push that to at least 80%. The contractors can't keep up with demand right now but we should have a glut of fibre jointers available in around 2022 just when the west island suddenly works out the correct technology mix.
Furthermore the RBI project (they have split the urban / rural broadband rollouts here) has rolled out FTTN to a significant number of rural cabinets and built some open access cell phone towers. RBI 2 is aiming to get to 97ish % of the country in the next. In theory, the kiwi rural speeds should be around the same at the nbn MTM solution for the urban areas in the lucky country.
So guessing these lab trials have brand new copper between two nodes and with no cross talk, dodgy crimps and so on?
I would love to see what speeds you get when deployed in the real world. I guess those on the west island will find out in about 5 years when it might get deployed.
One would think that with that massive bill to remeditate the local copper loop, you should just put in some fiber instead?
So the info that allegedly came out of nbn co that at the time was all lies and made up, is now confirmed to be true now?
How much FTTP would have $800M got is the question someone should be asking? Optus (like Telstra) must be loving having their cash windfall. I wonder if the accountants can depreciated the assets as well?
So much for Mr Turnbull's much vaulted mixed technology approached. That 2014 renegotiation is not looking very flash now.
I think I'm still a fiber fetish which is a good thing, as (the non CVC) UFB has recently been installed in my building.
Its more like the 2.4 GHz ISM (industrial, scientific and medical) band that 2.6 GHz. 2.6 GHz is typically being rolled out for small cells in urban areas for capacity.
2.4 GHz is one of the bands your microwave in the kitchen can use to nuke your Marks and Spencer ready meal and is typically on a shared basis. So any user (RPAS included) has to accept interference and deal with it. What the RPAS does with the loss of command and control likely varies between manufacture.
A spot of GPS spoofing (at a technical level) would offer another level of interruption to RPAS in flight. Maybe spoofing the white house geo-fence for starters would be a plan?
You check against the publicly available hardware (schematics, parts etc) and software to ensure the right bits are in the right place.
If you wear a multiple layered tin foil hat, you then head off to the silicon foundry and rustle up the devices yourself to populate the board.
Never in my limited time on this planet have I had the displeasure of dealing with such a slow and painful organisation as the UK SLC. I wish I'd cleared my loan a lot quicker than I did so that I didn't have to deal with the mess that passes for the peak finance body for the students of the UK for as long as I did.
Sadly they have 2p of my money in their bank account. One day I will get it back but I suspect it will be a cold cold day in hell and prob by cheque, so my bank wont know what on earth it is and they get to keep it.
Maybe, just maybe they are not (yet) like the big boys and investing $ in the business and not just directing all income to the directors and shareholders.
Would be an interesting case study if the founders can shape company culture to be different from other ISPs in the US. Can they mandate / curate a positive company culture towards the customer and then keep it going if they achieve it in the first place?
So Simon who else is building upgrading to the same mix of technology that Australia is trying to roll out? It appears not to be a popular choice unless you talk about the UK approach of doing very little in a coordinated nationwide approach.
Me thinks it sounds like you sing from the same hymn sheet as Mr Lynch of Comms Day too on the FTTP build. Surely as technology journos, you should all be aiming for the best long term infrastructure for Australia, not just the gravel roads as the AC above me notes for a short term fix?
One has to ask if this raid was Tony Abbott trying to take Malcolm Turnbull or the AFP trying to take out Labor?
Its popcorn time watching you guys in Oz spunk some serious cash on rotting copper and HFC that is more vaporware. It does also makes me sad too that the mere mortals are saddled with at least 20+ years more of alleged broadband before you get some decent FTTP.
So the police and public transport operator instead of fixing the known weakness, take someone to court for $18 worth of top up? How much was the lawyers time for this prosecution?
Maybe they should fix the system and do the hard yards instead of taking a (not so) cheap shot at a student.
I'm sorry Simon but please go read your own story http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/26/its_almost_time_for_australias_fibretothepremises_fetishists_to_give_up/ and tell me why the hell are you now pushing for FTTP?
Yes FTTDP is unproven and InternetAU has a view but your job as the fourth estate is to hold nbn co to account for its technology choices.
No need to apologise for the down vote, I don't have to deal with rain fade unlike your situation (I wont tell you how close to the exchange I am!).
Across the Tasman, the UFB build is a 10 year project. Now someone will always be last, you cant up skill a nation of techs overnight to install a once in a prob 50 year infrastructure build. Do you know where you might have been on the FTTP build if the original plan was executed?
Netflix and streaming video appears to be heading towards the killer app for fiber and does not have the issue as much as copper does on distance vs throughput. That and cloud based services - accounting, image storage and so on are enabled by FTTP installations. Latency is never going to be beaten but having a decent 4 lane motorway rather than the one lane bridge allows capacity for the next generation or three to enjoy and make use of.
Dear El Reg,
I think continued robust coverage of the nbn build is what is required. Yes the buffering argument is prob not the best metric to use but your humble commetards expect that nbn co (well the coalition's) mix choice of technology to be tested again and again.
A previous article on here about how fiber fetishists should give up the game because copper will deliver blazing fast speeds as long as its less than 100m in length and in prefect condition drew a lot of heated comments and showed the desire of IT bods to have a decent nationwide FTTP build that may not be the fastest build time but will deliver the better long term network architecture.
If the FTTN is going to be the dominant technology in the nbn build from now on, then well Australia is going to fall behind in the long run and have increased opex costs from keeping the copper in decent shape and powering all those nodes as well. The irony is that cost overruns of the FTTN are kicking in and price is now matching the FTTP build cost.
Anyway we look forward to robust discourse - remember to keep biting the hand that feeds it.
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