@ Yet Another Anonymous coward: I have to admit I chuckled very loudly at.....
"Suppose the fine for a bank robbery was = the money stolen, less wear and tear on shotguns, stocking depreciation etc."
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"Suppose the fine for a bank robbery was = the money stolen, less wear and tear on shotguns, stocking depreciation etc."
........of Apple's excuse.
"All of which Apple appears to accept, except they say that they did it for the benefit of the market — that grabbing some power back from Amazon reduces the main monopoly seller, rather than artificially empowering the monopoly producers."
What they in practice appear to have argued is that "we were doing everyone a favour by breaking the law" - because there is no possible doubt that they were in breach of anti-trust laws. I wonder how far we mere mortals would get with that argument in court!
You don't see the difference in degree this time? If this is true then MS are intending to lock out of the Windows pc market every independent software producer on the face of the planet. The only exceptions being those they choose to grant access. This would make their behaviour in nineties (major league shitty as it was) pale in comparison. I would also remind you that the European competitions authorities have not shown themselves to be completely toothless with regard to undertakings given by Redmond. You recall when MS fucked up over the browser choice page for the European version of Windows? Ballmer had, metaphorically if not literally, to ring the competition commisioner on his bended knees. It did not matter how much MS protested that it was a mistake, they still got slapped with a huge fine. I repeate, competition authorities all over the face of the planet will go beserk if Redmond tries this. This would be in fact an order of magnitude worse than their conduct in the nineties.
UWPs involve the desktop market where Windows still has a (roughly) 90% "market dominant position". If Redmond attempted to do this the DoJ in the US and the European competition authorities would be all over them. The DoJ in the States would charge MS with anti-trust violations in no seconds flat.
Let us say, as a working hypothesis that, roughly speaking, Win 10 traffic doubles at the weekends and indicates a market penetration of the retail sector of somewhere between 25 and 30% in the US market as indicated by the graph of the US government's figures. If we then also accept (again, roughly speaking, as a hypothesis) that the ballpark figures provided by Netmarketshare and StatCounter are a reasonable indication of reality as far as the overall average for the combined retail and enterprise markets then the implication is that Win 10's penetration of the enterprise market at present is approximately half that of the overall average. With Netmarketshare's figure for February at at just under 13% and StatCounter's figure at just under 15% this suggests that the degree of penetration of the enterprise market is in the range 6 - 8 %-age points (again, in the US market). These figures (if they reflect reality) would seem to suggest that at this stage in the release cycle of a new Windows interation the figures are, from Redmond's point of view, respectable (given that enterprise always adopts at a much slower rate that private customers and we are only 6 months or so into this release cycle). However, the coming 12 months will be key. If we do not see an enterprise share of about 15 - 20 %-age points in a year's time then Redmond has a problem.
.......Once achieved it can then upload them to the internet."
You do realise that the image of Mr Dabbs' testicles being removed al dente and then uploaded to the internet is going to haunt me for years and may cause serious psychological damage? I have already booked time with my GP as a precautionary measure. You will be receiving my medical bills ongoing.
It is indeed richly ironic that the anal retentive control freaks of the American security/Homeland defence industry (and it is indeed an industry) are apparently bent on destroying one of the last areas in which the USA still has a very clear lead over the rest of the world. Bill Clinton's advisor in an earlier presidential election who posted "it's the economy stupid" was simply repeating old advice. Never mind your military it is your economy that keeps you a major player. It is mindbending that America's "defenders" apparently wish to take measures that will hasten the decline of the USA as a major power. It is not all about how many guns and rockets you have guys, wakey wakey!
Actually I think that most people these days buy a new machine when they need a new machine. The conventional pc-market has been heading south for some considerable time. I think that HP need to reexamine the excuses they are making for themselves. Currently, AFAIK, the only growth in the pc-market in general is in the area of "2-in-ones", "hybrids" and the like. If HP's main effort is still in knocking out boxes and expecting us to buy them then they should perhaps reevaluate their strategy.
Point of fact correction. The stylus is bundled with the Surface Pro. The rest of the sentence is correct.
Indeed Lester. It is in fact amazing that certain members of our little congregation still have not understood that "Boot notes" rarely has anything to do with IT. Indeed they have failed to grasp that that is the whole point. I am obliged to ask "how thick is it possible to be"?
I am so jealous of your post I do not where to begin. Big thumbs up!
I cannot cope with the very thought of clicking on this link:
"The year before, the same hospital saw no less than eight firemen attend an eye-watering incident involving a spam javelin, a steel tube and an angle grinder. ®"
An angle grinder? May the Deity help us all!
Did not understand a word of it as usual - but beautifully written all the same.
In the meantime, "Ballmer schools SatNad on Microsoft's mobile strategy: You need one".
It would have been great had Ballmer had an identifiable strategy when he was CEO.
I think that you can guess what my attitude is to this example of
antisocial media when I describe it as "FarceBooK". It reminds of nothing more than the circular letters that we used to get from a certain type of middle class acquaintance in the seventies and eighties, "Jeremy has done extremely well in his O-Levels and Samantha is becoming very horsey...." Excuse me while I puke.
Indeed James. El Reg is one of my favourite sites but the eye-crossing ads/videos/popups really piss me off. What can I say?
...............the comments BTL had me close to crying with laughter. See icon.
Very good points Random Handle, just don't hold your breath as far as there being any chance that they will take any notice whatsoever. :)
MS Research does a lot of long term basic research (basic as in not having an immediate commercial application). Their work takes years to pay off. One example of that work that is beginning to pay off is in the field of real time translation (as has been reported several times here at El Reg). I repeat, whatever you may think about MS' commercial operation; how many major companies would put as much money as they do into research that may not pay off at all, or may only pay off a decade or two down the line? The problem with any MS-thread currently is that, regardless of what the topic might be, it immediately becomes infested by large numbers of anti-Redmond hatebois whose only objective is to excrete large amounts of steaming ordure on the thread. There is plenty that MS deserve very strong criticism for but the utter incapacity of some to distinguish between issues is a royal pain in the backside for those of us who are actually interested in a worthwhile on topic discussion.
Did you boys miss the bit about these employees joining MS Research? How did you miss the importance of Swiftkey's people's first class AI skills? Whatever you may think about MS as a commercial outfit their research division is world class in the fields they cover.
I dare not speculate about what the average IT-pro thinks about the shiney-buying general public!
Very interesting suggestion. It could as part of a solution (state level cooperation of the type referred to in this article, changes to tax law and so on included) be very effective. See icon.
"The law of unintended consequences might have had an upside in this case, customers were likely to be prompt payers".
Indeed Boris, this exactly the kind of response I have been hearing from people who could not remotely be described as leftwing.
Actually Andrew there are plenty on the "Corbynite Left" who are perfectly capable of counting without having to take their shoes and socks off to get above twenty who have made very clear their dislike of this "deal" without out resorting to criticisms that you would be likely to characterise as "hard left". It has indeed attracted well merited and clearly expressed criticism across the whole political spectrum (I am very glad to say). All you are doing with that kind of comment is giving the impression that you are paying obeisance to the Daily Fail and their like, something which I am very certain is not an impression that you wish to give. What is the problem with admitting that your feelings about this deal are also shared on the Left without making snide remarks? God help me, I even agree with Tories sometimes - not very often, but it has been known to happen. :P
it's healthier for us and the environment."
I realise of course that you were being satirical, however there are those who actually do believe that it would be better for the environment. It would in fact require a huge extension of arable monoculture farming right across the face of the planet in order to do this. The irony of the vegan position is that it would do massive damage to the earth's ecosystem if we all dropped eating meat.
Even I as a British English speaker chocked on that one. How our compadres from the western side of the pond are likely to react beggers the imagination. The Pope is allowed to engage in oral sex once a week - are you serious?
I realise that the more fundamentalist wing of the iFanbois will likely be hugely offended by that subheading but I laughed like a drain. Thumbs up for an extremely funny bit of "subbing".
Thumbs up for that one Captain Scarlet!
God's in his heaven and all's right with the world. It is so reassuring that the Fruity Company continues with this pathetic behaviour. I realise that this will not go down well with the anti-Redmond hatebois but despite the regular slaggings that El Reg give MS (very often deserved but not always) MS usually reply when asked for a comment. However, with regard to Cupertino the only appropriate comment is "plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose "
Given the rate of STDs these days people can manage that for themselves without need for government assisstance!
Just about carry is of course the word. One of the more ridiculous scenes of that type is from "The Four Feathers" (1939) which features a scene showing Gary Cooper storming through the gates of a desert fort firing a Vickers HMG (WWI vintage) from the hip!
...........it is just being facilitated by modern technology. My dear mother had a job in a cigarette factory in Norway in the late 1940s. All the line workers were women and they discovered that the (male) foreman was (on the orders of senior management) following the ladies when they took a toilet break to time how long they spent in the loo. Mum promptly organised a strike (she was a bit of a firebrand in her younger days) and the management backed down. All that is happening now is they are displaying the same contempt for their employees - just using modern surveilence/sensor technology to do it.
Your comment was a statement of an observable fact. Furthermore, your post was very carefully objective making it clear that you were not engaging in any kind of tribalist slagging. All the same I see that some saddo downvoted you. Have an upvote to even that up.
MS made a point of announcing about four weeks ago (it was reported here at El Reg) that Windows Enterprise customers would be able to stop all telemetry if they chose to do so (as well as being able to block all up-dates until they had been tested and found by the customer to be acceptable). Has your IT dept got on to Microsoft UK and asked them what the fark is going?
"See how Windows 7 peaks for five days, then dips? And see how Windows 10 and Windows 8.x surge at the same time Windows 7 dips? Line up the days from the data and you'll quickly see that Windows 7 thrives during the working week and other versions of Windows do better on weekends"
It has always been the case that enterprise adopts a new Windows iteration at a slower pace than the domestic retail market. I would be utterly astonished if that were not the case this time as well - it is not even yet six months since launch.
However, given that the current Enterprise version of Windows 10 enables both blocking of updates and blocking any "slurping" this iteration does not present issues for the business sector in the way that the Home and Pro editions do for private customers. That means of course that if there is no significant uptick within enterprise over the next year or so then MS would have good reason to be worried.
I wholly agree. The lady was a major contributor in her own right. I also take grave exception to the fact that El Reg mentions Apple's former CEO in the same breath as a genius like Turin. You would have to be a totally brain dead iFanboi to believe that such a comparison was appropriate.
I believe that the point that the gentleman is making (if I have not misunderstood what he has said) is that it does not, in practice, give them the power that they dream of. In other words indiscriminate mass surveilence does not in fact achieve what they believe it will achieve. IE. They are destroying the temple instead of saving it. What he is saying is that their strategy is stupid and counterproductive. Icon? My reaction to that they, in reality, appear to be intent on demonstrating that it is an almost biblical truth.
Oh and it reinstalls crap from BIOS level even if you do a clean install? Now that's what I call added value. Lenovo, the name you can trust - excuse me while I puke.
I think the clue lies in the phrase you quote: "We pay every tax dollar we owe." BigCorp (Apple or any other example) have a very differant take than we ordinary mortals on how much tax they owe. The phrase "as little as fucking possible, by any means possible as long as we members of the Managerati are not at any risk of being personally fined or doing jail time" comes to mind. Icon? My reaction to that type of behaviour.
Have you just come through the looking glass Alice? It is a matter of trivial observation that you will get far more downvotes by praising MS here at El Reg than you will ever get by attacking them.
"Dismal sales"? What have you been smoking anti-Redmond hateboi? PS4 is clearly ahead by a very good margin but describing the Xbox sales as "dismal" takes FUD to a new hight. If you really think that the link that you provided justifies that assertion you should change your meds.
"Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose"
Thumbs up for that very sublte reference - I was genuinely impressed. Happy New Year everyone!
Yes, its a sort of "sheep ham" and very far from cheap as well. I remember working on a consultancy basis for a medical biochem company in the run up to Christmas a few years ago and they gave me a whole leg of fenalår by way of an extra thank you and we were still chewing bits of it in March! Good thing that La Señora both like it. :)
I think we should be told.
.................I cannot for one moment disagree with you. My lady and I are Star Wars fans from way back when. Indeed we watched the first of the originals in the West End in 1977 when it was first released and the experience for us was amazing. When the first of the prequels was released we almost ran to our local "picture palace". We left after half an hour - we were that pissed with what Lucas had done. To this day "Jar-Jar" is a swearword in our house that no expression from our upbringing in the east end of London could possibly match (quite apart from the many other sins that Lucas committed in that unspeakable trilogy).*
*I will be very open here and say that I regard the prequel trilogy as self-indulgent garbage produced by someone whose fortuitous success** with the original films had promoted him beyond his level of competence.
**Given that there were many others involved in the original series whose contribution was enormous - something that Lucas' ego has never allowed him to acknowledge properly.
Ouch! What a nightmare vision. Mind you the most nightmarish thing about it is that you are right. I love the original trilogy but like you I am aware of the fact that it was Lucas' dependence on others when he made the orginal three that had a great influence on the result.
Thanks for that heads up - appreciate it.
I don't think that there is for two reasons. One, we see that since the launch of the SP3 and then the S3 the surface line has been doing well (roughly a billion dollars per quarter). The second reason is that, as we know, Redmond massively over produced and overshipped the SP1, SP2, SRT1 and SRT2 with the result that they got very badly burned and had to swallow a humungous write-down. I think that they would be likely to be very cautious after that clusterfuck.
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