* Posts by Tikimon

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Humanity uploaded an AI to Mars and lets it shoot rocks with lasers

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Good future movie device here...

First some stock xenophobic space aliens attack our Mars bases, to stage their Earth invasion from the Red Planet. A handful of plucky (and beautiful) humans escape and try to sabotage their evil plans. When all looks lost, someone thinks to reactivate Curiosity. They program it to trundle into the aliens' headquarters and laser the control panel for the Main Reactor to blow them up and Save Humanity. Optional if you want to install an AI into it and have scenes of pathos as it is about to be annihilated in nuclear fire.

Hey, I could be a Hollywood screenwriter. Who knew.

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Re: We can now confirm that there is no life on Mars

The Martians are far too smart and cool for that. They're actually hanging around just out of camera view, lighting their cigarettes off the laser. Later manned missions will be shocked to discover extensive graffiti on the rover, including what will later be determined to be the Martian analogue to dicks.

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F-Secure's Mikko Hypponen on IoT: If it uses electricity, it will go online

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Re: Our Savior - the Third World?

Are you really claiming that there will not be huge parts of the world without internet access into the foreseeable future? When people use generators a couple of hours a day, or have the state-run power go out daily, do you think they have internet in EVERY HOME? Because the IOT thing won't work unless each home has its very own address.

Get the government to lend a hand? What crack are you smoking? I'm referring to places like Nigeria. The corrupt government is happy letting its citizens go without many things we consider vital. Or Cuba, where USB sticks of shared content substitute for internet access. Do you imagine they'll subsidize internet access? What, so their opposition can organize against them and start a revolt?

Sorry folks, the whole world will not be individually internet-connected for a long, long time.

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Our Savior - the Third World?

Plenty of places in the world do not have a wireless phone system, nor common reliable internet connection. There will always be manufacturers making products for these markets. They will not have IOT or other spying because it won't work. And there's where we can find our non-IOT appliances. We won't have to go back to beating clothes on the rocks at the creek, only buy a "developing market" washer.

No, the big outfits won't stock those locally. But someone will if there's a demand. I know of a shop that repairs and restores vintage appliances. Most of these for for the buyer to USE, not for show, and they sell rapidly. People are willing to defrost manually because that fridge was built to last and will to your kids, not like the short-life appliances sold today.

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Google, Mozilla both say they sped up the web today. One by blocking ads. One with ads

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Re: Paradox. Everyone hates ads. Everyone wants stuff for "free".

"It would need tracking to work, but that tracking wouldn't necessarily be used for anything else and avoiding it would almost certainly be considered fraud."

You, sir, have outlined our future government requirements for internet usage. And you said it like it was this benign thing, what could go wrong?

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Virtual reality audiences stare straight ahead 75% of the time

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Re: Clever image processing algorithm

That time and place is NOW. The Creationist camp is actively and energetically doing everything it can think of to destroy Science. They want our schools and students to reject hundreds of years of human learning in favor of 2000-year old myths. And so on.

So if the Creationists are bashing away as hard as they can, is it not a wee bit logical to fight back?

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Teen girl who texted boyfriend to kill himself guilty of manslaughter

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Prime sociopath, not forgiveable "sick girl"

Let's see. No conscience, no empathy, manipulative to the point of destroying the target. Compulsive attention-seeker and willing to do heinous things to get it. Coldly induced a guy to suicide, calmly listened to him die, then immediately started the "poor me" routine.

At least sociopath, if not psycho. Which is chemical and not her fault being that way. However, even anti-socials know Right from Wrong if only to fit in with the rest of us. Deliberate premeditated act of murder, no excuses.

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Fighter pilot shot down laptops with a flick of his copper-plated wrist

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A tie is a pretty thin reward for the violent and often damaging experience of ejecting from an airplane. It's probably one of those things you're glad (I'm alive!) and yet reluctant (oh CRAP that hurts) to obtain.

We need a new word meaning "Something unpleasant and eagerly avoided, but gratefully embraced when necessary." Let's ask the Germans, they're good at that.

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BAE accused of flogging mass-spying toolkits to assh*le autocrats

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Re: And this weeks "No Shit Sherlock" award goes to...

Seriously, anyone who thinks this stuff isn't happening is kidding themselves. BAE, and the rest of the TECHNOLOGY industry, will sell to anyone they can as long as it's legal*

FTFY...

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Banking websites are 'littered with trackers' ogling your credit risk

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Re: Yeah but...

"... as with most things, all of this is stated in the small print. It's just that nobody bothers to read it "

You are referring I presume to multiple pages of legalese, a jargon crafted specifically to obfuscate information? I've read plenty of them, and they make it as difficult as possible to know exactly what you're agreeing to.

Doesn't matter anyway! Their TOC always states they can change anything anytime without notice or approval from you. So whatever you agree to TODAY won't protect you any longer than it takes for the echo of the mouse click to fade.

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Ever wonder why those Apple iPhone updates take so damn long?

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Re: no no no no no no no, Apple

"I wouldn't be so quick to question the methods Apple used. They worked."

THIS TIME. Lucky once does not validate a stupid decision. Ever hear of Russian Roulette? Five out of six times that goes without a problem as well.

- If they felt the need to test it, then there was a chance it would bomb.

- They did not notify or ask the userbase about this.

Apple thinks it still owns the devices you carry and has full rights to manage them anyway they want. That's bullshit. FAIL.

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France and UK want to make web firms liable for users' content

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Let's compare freedom vs terrorism!

Clearly these government idiots can't recognize hypocrisy when they spew it. On the one hand, Germany (to pick one) wants to remove extremist and terrorist content from the internet. Simply keep people from ever hearing those horrible lies and they won't ever cause trouble. We have to stamp out these evil, violent people, protect our country from evil revolutionaries.

Now substitute "North Korea" or "Iran" for Germany. However, when THEY censor, block, de-anonymize and punish people, it's evil oppression and violation of human rights. Guess what Europe? You're calling for the same oppression and using the very same excuses the nasty regimes do!

I don't support the nasty views of terrible people. But my fair country began in just such a way. Extremists spread their views through media and meetings, radicalized the population and started a bloody revolution to overthrow the legitimate government. And later we named it the United States of America. Allow any form of government content control and it becomes a tool to use against whomever they feel threatened by.

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Pizza proffer punctures privacy protection, prompts pals' perfidy

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Easy enough solutions...

- Make Opt-Out the default for every service.

- Force EULAs and TOCs to be in plain-language.

- Recognize that "legalese" is intended to hide important information and use of it is therefore fraud.

- Force data-holders to delete all data about one on request.

- Impose timely and painful fines for any violation of the above.

Easy fix, but it would never get past the Vested interests...

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Teen texted boyfriend to kill himself. It worked. Will the law change to deal with digital reality?

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Re: So....

No, it's not society and entitlement and her parents and social circle. She's an antisocial personality disorder textbook example. Go read up on them, it's glaringly obvious.

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Re: All this vitriol for a little girl ...

This is beyond parental influence. This girl is clearly some level of sociopath or psychopath. There's no changing those people, there's just not. Most counselors and such won't even try to treat them because all they do is learn to fake being human better. I'm all too familiar with this, personal experience with a few.

So no, punishing the parents would be grossly unjust.

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Hotel guest goes broke after booking software gremlin makes her pay for strangers' rooms

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Re: Credit Cards

"Debit cards are by far the most common method of card payment in the UK, if not the EU (i'm not sure what the stats are on that)."

So the biggest crowd of sheep is always right? That's a pretty weak argument! Facebook is clearly the best company ever by that standard.

Yes, lots of Americans here, and the additional protections for credit cards over debit cards pay off for us handsomely. I'm an AmEx user because they always have my back covered. The annual fee for the AmEx is totally worth the peace of mind and their history of going to bat for me. Neither do we get shafted for additional fees to use credit here. But don't let that stop the debit users from downvoting, hah...

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Feeling old? Well, we're older than that: Newly found Homo sapiens jaw dates back 350k years

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Re: 350k years?

No wonder my joints creak so badly.

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Re: is the jaw a really a fossil or is it a bone?

It WAS a bone, but its structure has been totally replaced by rock over the ages. Since this slowly occurs at the molecular scale, the resulting rock is a perfect cast of the original, so you can treat it as the actual bone for anatomical studies.

Amazingly, a few fossils still contain preserved soft tissues (collagen, possibly blood cells) so some of the original animal is still there! The fossils actually smell bad, like something dead (Hell Creek Formation). Doesn't that blow your mind?

Further weirdness, sometimes fossils are subjected to pressure and deform over time. There's a local T-rex skull that's noticeably flattened side to side and curved to the left.

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If a stone tool isn't convenient to carry, the larger core stone you'll strike them from is certainly less so. You'll also need your knapping tools (some of which are also rocks) and your leather apron (flint chips are razor-sharp) when you're ready to make something. You don't just pick up some rocks and bang them together.

Flint knapping is one of the few weird skillz I talked myself out of learning. It's hard, and takes lots of practice.

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Obama's intel chief says Russia totally tried to swing it for Trump

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I would be ashamed to push this line

Seriously. "Those evil Rooskies skewed our elections!" What the hell? Multiple parties and entities within the US have been trying every way they could think of for decades to sway and skew elections. Are they really suggesting that the Russians are better able to influence a US election than the home-grown crop of meddlers? Bullshit, bullshit, and steaming shite of a bull. US politics is like herding cats for Americans. It's ridiculous to insist that Putin and friends can do it better.

And as the subject hinted, I would be ashamed to admit that the Russians managed to influence an election more than my domestic campaign. Either way, the Dems blew it. (and I supported neither unsuitable candidate)

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Microsoft founder Paul Allen reveals world's biggest-ever plane

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Re: What happens if the pilots in each cockpit decide to bank in opposite directions?

I assume you're thinking of both pilots moving their wing down (or up) at the same time. It's definitely amusing to imagine the airplane flexing up or down in a U shape! Reality is less interesting, since that would lift or lower both wings at once and the plane would simply rise or sink.

Nevertheless, I'm having fun imagining the plane flexing around into interesting shapes as two pilots struggle for control. If they got into an oscillation loop fighting each other, you might see the wings actually flapping up and down as it flew, wouldn't that be a sight to tell your grandkids about?

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Security company finds unsecured bucket of US military images on AWS

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A caution on encrypted data in ye "cloud"

Not exactly on topic, but related to comments here. We're using a clown, sorry, cloud offering for our business data storage. Let's agree for the moment to leave aside all other contentious issues of sense, reliability, and such, lol... Anyway, I had an encrypted file container stored there. It's my stash of personal junk - journal, etc.

One day I decrypted the container and found the last six weeks of data GONE. As near as I can figure, here's what happened. Any changes made are saved within the file crypt. The crypt file itself never changes size, and apparently doesn't change "modified date" either. So for some reason, the off-site servers decided to overwrite my crypt file with an old copy which to it looked like the same file.

SO BEWARE, if you're saving encrypted file containers in a "cloud" you might should make sure something about it looks different now and then.

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Sysadmin finds insecure printer, remotely prints 'Fix Me!' notice

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Why not knock?

"...why didn't he simply knock on the door, instead of doing this over the top, convoluted means of letting them know."

Perhaps because you say these kind of things to people and they are ignored. Maybe their eyes glaze over. Maybe they've stopped paying attention to security warnings. Maybe they thank you, say they'll address it later and their regular day pushes it into Indefinite Limbo. It's just words, and those carry little meaning with civilians. How well do they respond to your other warnings? Poorly, of course.

Demonstrate that someone can invade the network and print anything they like and you'll get their attention QUICK.

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AI-powered dynamic pricing turns its gaze to the fuel pumps

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They're assuming you can't easily shop around

There's at least one phone app called Gas Buddy that shows prices at fuel stations. Users enter the prices, and you can see how long since they've been updated. If word gets around that stations are twiddling prices like this, then the app users will have reason to do more frequent updates. More traffic will go to the non-gougers.

Word can get around pretty quick in a digital world.

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PAH! Four decades of Star Wars: No lightsabers, no palm-sized video calls

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Somebody has to say it...

"sums up the aspirations of two generations. “What I really want is Princess Leia NAKED on the table in front of me.”"

Fixed that for all of us!

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IT firms guilty of blasting customers with soul-numbing canned music

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"Hold" doesn't have to mean Purgatory

My company wants short messages on the Hold track, upcoming events and "did you know?" informative bits. I select instrumentals that are lighthearted without being obtrusive. I'm noted for my pleasant "airplane voice" and read the messages myself. Then I overlay them every 20-30 seconds on the background track, dropping the music volume so the vox doesn't have to be loud. Loops every four minutes or so.

I do my best to make HOLD a pleasant or neutral experience. We get compliments now and then. It's not difficult, and I wish more companies followed that simple philosophy.

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PayPal peed off about Pandora's 'P' being mistaken for its 'PP'

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You don't own all blue P's, ya jerks

It's bloody difficult to do anything totally original. One can create it out of the blue but someone else may have also. We only have a couple dozen Latin characters to share among us and a handful of discernible colors. I suspect many logos exist around the world composed of a single blue P. We can't allow companies to claim any and all possible variations on a simple theme. Frickin' Apple thinks they own ANY fruit logo in any color.

PayPal compared to Pandora:

Slanted vs vertical

Rounded corners vs sharp

Double letter with overlap vs single

Two-color vs single color

There's four major differences and PayPal should shut the hell up.

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America's drone owner database grounded: FAA rules blown out of sky

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Imagine the challenge...

Imagine the challenge of a local police officer at a parade trying to determine which:

- drones are properly there to photograph the festivities

- cars are legitimately parked and do not contain bombs

- backpacks are legitimate and do not contain a bomb or firearm

- propane tanks are legitimate for food vendors and not really a bomb

- children's balloons are legitimate and do not contain nerve gas

- people are legitimate and not there to unleash ninja whoop-ass on the crowd

...and which may be operated by individuals with more sinister purposes.

Cops should learn to do their feckin' jobs and not expect Bad Guy - Good Guy lists to do it for them.

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Man sues date for cinema texting fiasco, demands $17.31

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That's an "I know why you're single" moment

That's on a red button that lights up in my head when I notice an unpleasant Critical Trait in someone. Suddenly you know exactly why they're not partnered up, and that it will probably never change. Like my old girlfriend with the occasional out-of-the-blue rages, who's past 50 now and still looking.

The only question is, does it apply to one or both of them?

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Kill Google AMP before it KILLS the web

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Re: "But was this a story about a driving licence or visa application type copy cat site?

Her daughter is a DD? Pictures, please?

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Proposed PATCH Act forces US snoops to quit hoarding code exploits

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Utterly toothless, without time limits

They can establish any review process they like. Simply make sure that - not hard for government agencies - it takes a year or so for any vulnerability to trundle through the review process. It's as old as time, if you don;t want to do something, drag it out forever.

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Chelsea Manning leaves prison, heads straight for booze and pizza

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Re: You can change the name

The relative length of those fingers seems to be directly controlled by testosterone vs estrogen, giving longer or shorter fingers respectively. Among men, differing levels of testosterone will cause variation within the gender. So really, it's an indicator of testosterone expression in the individual.

Here's a good one... https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/09/110905160922.htm

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Ireland to make revenge porn, cyberstalking criminal acts

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Re: Revenge Porn - irrelevant "S&G act"

This has NOTHING to do with the article, only the referenced post. You been warned.

The scene: a multi-day paddle/camping trip into the Okeefenokee Swamp. Six canoes worth of recreational drunks and stoners had to pack onto wooden platforms every night. Tents edge to edge, was a bigger group than the platforms normally held. Two of the group had magic mushrooms saved for this night. Eventually the rest of us went to bed, but these two stayed up. Something made one laugh, and he tries to quietly laugh. The pressure generated forced some gases noisily out the back end. Which made them laugh, which caused more audible gas leaks. The cycle continued for ages, a mere ten feet away in an otherwise silent place.

So it wasn't exactly "a shits and giggles act" but the rest of us had to deal with a FARTS and giggles act for hours. We almost fed them to the alligators, simply push them in and wait. We discussed this option between our tents where they could hear, but it only made them giggle again.

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Volvo is letting Android 'take over underlying car software' – report

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Google in my car? Oh, the horror...

So autos will now be packed with pre-installed bloatware and spyware that we won't be allowed to delete? FAIL and move on to other brands.

Maybe we can hope for a future John McAfee Sport-Utility Vehicle? No internet connection, face-distorting windscreen, encrypted ECU data, explosively self-destructs if stolen...

Help me, Obi-Wan McAfee! You're my only hope!

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Japanese researchers spin up toilet paper gyroscopes for science

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It knows if you've been bad or good

Eventually it notices that User 4 does an extra "pull" now and then, and adds an extra notation that a monkey has been spanked.

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Amazon's Alexa is worst receptionist ever: Crazy exes, stalkers' calls put through automatically

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Re: Calling Amazon support personally

I blame the modern software tendency to Just Do It For Us. They realized we turn off bull**** functions and/or don't activate cool new spying features, so they program to be default ON, Opted-IN, and no way for us to turn said "features" off.

Products aren't designed for consumers anymore. They are designed to drive a business model, and they expect us to quietly follow along with whatever asinine scheme they have cooked up. These days that means subscription based spyware and no user control over anything.

All the IOT disasters are just symptoms of this strategy.

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Well this is awkward. As Microsoft was bragging about Office at Build, Office 365 went down

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Re: Cloud just means...

"Having worked with Cloud products for near 10 years now, I can say that in general they are much more reliable and lower cost than an on prem equivalent".

Perhaps in general but NOT for us. Since moving to Office365 last year (not my idea) we have had multiple DAILY problems. Users are requested to sign in over and over, random "the network cannot be accessed, try again later", endless connection issues like this. Simple things don't work, like clicking a PDF attachment and it opens with your PDF viewer. When the wheels fall off, we can do nothing but wait for Microsoft to figure it out. It's a crap experience for my users, who don't trust it.

Previously we ran it all from here and it worked brilliantly, daily, for years. When it broke, we fixed it quick and back in business. Properly maintained, on-premises kicks the crap out of clown, sorry, cloud offerings.

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Huge flying arse makes successful test flight

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Re: Gasbags

"Full of politicians then ?" No, they're only used to fill the gasbags aboard ship. The apparatchiks stay on the ground.

Airlander thus have failed to solve a problem of the old airships, that of needing special facilities at ports of call. One can't simply throw a group of politicians in a room, they'll cause all manner of mischief. They would need specialized containment systems at each port of call, probably expensive.

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We are 'heroes,' says police chief whose force frisked a photographer

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Typical...

If you ever manage to force a cop to admit error, make sure you immortalize this glowing one-off event for history. Closely related to how they will close ranks to protect one of their number, not matter what heinous crime that officer has committed.

Throw in some illegal spying and does anybody wonder why nobody much trusts the police anymore?

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US Navy developers test aircraft carrier drone control software

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So nice to caption the photo!

That was a right generous thing to caption that photo, "A US Navy F/A-18 Hornet taking off from an aircraft carrier". Seeing as you British folks may have forgotten what an airplane taking off from a carrier looks like. Also that it's a US plane and not a secret British prototype. Might have confused people, yanno.

"OMG why does that runway end over the water, isn't that dangerous? That poor pilot barely off the ground, he must have crashed! And why can't I find video of it on Youtube?"

[with all my sympathy for your naval aviation woes. Our turn will come when we have to rely on those F-35 horrors]

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Heroic stepmum takes one for team, sticks pot pipe up wazoo

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Diffferent smokes for different folks

Some guys find a woman with a little something extra between her legs to be hot. They might find this one literally smokin' hot. "Hey hot stuff, can I have a puff on yer pipe there?"

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Samsung Smart TV pwnable over Wi-Fi Direct, pentester says

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Grab the torches and pitchforks!

Join me, my comrades! This intolerable situation must be ended! We must act now to save the word "Smart" from brainless marketers! Death to Tech Newspeak!

This isn't as goofy as it might sound. Through the stupidity of marketers a word meaning "intelligent" has been co-opted to mean "dumbest idea ever." Although to be honest, I'm pretty sure we'll just have to give up the original usage of "smart" and use other words instead. Damn marketers anyway, can't they just make up fancy-sounding nonsense words like they used to?

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Ewe, get a womb! Docs grow baby lambs in shrink-wrap plastic bags

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Re: Looks unpleasant.

Luxury! When I were an embryo, us preemies used to dream of a cardboard box. Would have been a palace to us.

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Man nicked trying to 'save' beer from burning building

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Bah, he wasn't trying to SAVE anything..

Faced with the loss of everything he owned, and clearly not being in the best of situations before the fire, he decided that life simply wasn't worth living anymore. He lurched in not to save the beers, but to use them to kill himself and escape this vale of tears and woe. Of course the police snatched it away and locked him up for his own protection. Always willing to take a bullet or a beer to protect a citizen, yanno.

Seems kinda "cruel and unusual" to me, couldn't he find a less painful and more dignified method?

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LinkedIn U-turns on Bluetooth-enabled 'Tinder for marketers'

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How can anyone attack this wonderful feature?

People! Settle down! You're getting irate over little nitpicks when you could be building a reputation!

Can't you see it? These awesome benefactors have given us the perfect Conference Hookup App! Think about it. The actual Tinder can allow any crazed bunny-boiling stalker to scope your profile. The new LinkedIn-HookedUp feature opens the door for you to shag the night away with a respected peer in your field. They know you're busy and distracted (flights, hotels, cabs, argh) and don't want you to miss out so it helpfully pops up to remind you. Although they should reword the popup message for greater uptake, maybe like:

"CLICK HERE FOR TOTAL HEDONISM."

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Peer pressure, not money, lures youngsters into cybercrime – report

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Re: Peer pressure?

Oh, I dunno about that. My first session (she wasn't a prostitute, lol) was more like putting out fire with gasoline. I regret to say that afterward I put more effort into the quest for sex, not less.

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(You can't) buy one now! The flying car makes its perennial return

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There's an assumption in "flying car"...

Everyone assumes that the Flying Car will be like a car, as in: Turnkey, brainless, any half-trained idiot can use it. So Joe Clueless can just wander out, fall in, and travel with the same lack of skill and attention that he now does with his car.

This. Will. Never. Happen.

As mentioned elsewhere, getting a pilot's license isn't easy or cheap. You have to demonstrate proficiency with the aircraft, proper operation, safety procedures and what to do when the shite hits the fan. You must periodically re-certify and pass medical standards. But any idiot barely able to drive can get a driver's license for life. Not acceptable for a flying car!

The only way we'll have mass-produced flying cars is if they're totally autonomous or if a regular pilot's license is required. Anything else invites death raining from the skies.

To summarize a badly organized rant, we may get flying cars one day! But not everybody will own one, even if they become cheaper. And that is a good thing.

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Re: Rotors "powered by the wind"

It's neither powered by the wind, nor lifted by it. "Wind" is defined as a movement of the air, whether naturally or artificially generated. Gyros and fixed-wing aircraft fly by hurling themselves through the air. This creates relative airflow past the aircraft, but it's not "wind".

A gyro is powered by its engine which drives it forward, generating airflow over the rotor and making it spin. The spinning rotor generates lift and the gyro slips the surly bonds of Earth. Kites are powered by the wind, and cannot fly without it.

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Zuckerberg's absolutely mental: Brain sensors that read YOUR MIND at 100 words a minute

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Statements mean nothing, WHY are they doing this?

Peoples! Stop being distracted by the fluffy kitten! You're all chewing on the words Faceborg said, which are merely a smokescreen and distraction. They don't give a damn about the brain-to-text typing or any of that other marketing fluff.

It's about the ultimate in spying and data-gathering. Nothing more. It's Zuckerborg's dream to know AND SELL everything about everyone, what better way than sucking it right out of your neurons? We like to keep some things to ourselves and Faceborg hates that, this would bypass the pesky user consent or intent.

It's SOP these days for Faceborg, Google et. al. Paper over evil plans and intent with glowing claims of making the world a better place. And of course they run rough-shod over us for OUR benefit, lol tell another one.

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