Re: "Unlike Lyft, Uber changes the tokens it uses..identify drivers, to prevent such tracking."
@Phil O'Sophical Guess your area isn't served by Arriva...
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@Phil O'Sophical Guess your area isn't served by Arriva...
"Intriguingly, Apple also spends far less on marketing than Google"
I guess abusing your monopoly and splashing "buy our thing!" call-to-actions on your search homepage doesn't work as well for phones as it does for web browsers...
"... the BK stunt has now been stopped dead by Google."
Can't have someone other than the primary user(s) of the device activating it now, can we? It would skew our profiling data...
If consumers cared whether or not they were spied on, Google would be out of business and Duck Duck Go would be #1 search engine.
Alas this is not the case.
"It's a mature market. O that Gartner and headline writers were mature enough to understand that."
... and the Google
brainwashedfaithful who think that current OS usage stats herald the end of Windows... in my entire experience as a programmer, I have yet to see anyone developing on anything that wasn't either a PC running some flavour of Windows, or a Mac*. Certainly I've yet to meet anyone who has built anything on a Chromebook or an Android-based device...
*OK, back in the pre-PC days, I used to use an Atari ST.
Gave the world its most popular mobile OS for free. Commoditised smartphones. Brainwashed the vast majority into believing that their acts of mass surveillance are socially acceptable.
"Your business model can't be simultaneously based on both intimate, granular details about users and no clue whatsoever about rather obvious pirate sites..."
Sounds textbook from the BOFH manual to me!
... does nothing to fix "shite gameplay" or "tired old franchise".
But we seem to bash MS more for this slurping than the others. I wonder why?
Some are still mired 20+ years ago in the past and can't get over the browser wars. Others still blindly believe the dream from the early days of Google, and cannot face what they have become. Others still because, despite the fact that the majority of Android devices running an OS flavour that is becoming increasing proprietary to Google, they still claim it as a victory for open source and Linux.
... and of course, like Microsoft before them, there are those who have a vested interest in attacking the competition.
The tragedy here is that all those who are whooping and hollering about "the demise of Windows" are basically overlooking one key thing: the driving force behind this is Google.
The same Google who requires integration of their services in what was once an open source operating system...
The same Google who have (ab)used their monopoly over search results to make their browser the #1...
The same Google who has built their entire business on "spying on people"*...
A Billy Connelly sketch springs to mind - he's talking about a preacher delivering a sermon about people in hell looking up at god and wailing "We didn't know!" - and god replying "Well, you f***ing well know now, don't you?!"... well, in about 20 years time, we'll definitely know.
* I always loved the way with the anti-Microsoft-brigade that it's "spying on people" when it's Windows 10, but with Google it's "that's the way their business works and I'm happy to exchange my privacy to use their services"...
I detect a new PFY in the making...
"Sounds about par for the course"
... but... but... but... developers don't care about golf...
... I'll get me coat.
"That's hardly enough to deliver rich-media ads directly to the brain."
Wouldn't stop Google from trying though...
Brian here is supposed to be doing a presentation..."
Hmmm.... that name feels familiar.... Set the way-back machine for -21 years...
PFY: ""Uncle Brian, you know, on the 6th floor. The big office with the leather furniture. I'd hate to disagree with your report to the CEO"
Don't tell me we've been through so many bosses we're now recycling them???
The mother-in-law's laptop used to run Shit-sta...
wailing and gnashing of teethfun I had whenever she broke it (or it happened spontaneously)...
Vista will not be missed-a....
Google are becoming more like the Microsoft of old with every passing incident.
I'm just looking forward to the day when the Microsoft-hate-brigades who have been hailing Google as their champion for so long suddenly realise that their would-be saviour has actually put them in a worse place that Microsoft ever did...
"Anyone old enough to remember the dark Nokia days when you'd have an office of 10 people - all with Nokias - and no charger would fit another phone ?"
Yeah, but in those days the average battery life on a phone was 7-10 days...
"Interesting how Chrome has decimated Firefox's share."
Pretty straightforward really, when you consider that Google pasted "Upgrade your browser!" calls to action all over their search results page, but hey! what's the point of having a monopoly if you don't abuse it?!?
"Smartphones from Samsung, LG, Xiaomi, ZTE, Oppo, Vivo, Asus and Lenovo have been spotted sporting malware they apparently carried when they were shipped."
Yup - it's called "Google's version of the Android OS"
"What so we're not entitled to privacy? We're not entitled to know we're being spied on?"
#1 Search engine: Google
#1 Mobile OS: Android
#1 Browser: Chrome
We have no right to complain about privacy when we have freely given it away...
"Show me anyone going into a mobile phone store..."
"Cross-reference timestamp with Android phone positioning..."
"Okay John Doe wants a new mobile, here's his IP address, phone details and email account - turn on the Pixel adverts tap!"
"Google wants companies to hook their signage up to the new Cloud Video API to manipulate shoppers in real time."
After all, the tried-and-trusted tactic of a big call to action on your search pages with an "Upgrade your experience!"-type strapline only works when the product you want to push people towards using only works when said product is something that can be downloaded... *cough*Chrome*cough*
"Huawei quietly introduced a new feature that few people even noticed. It's abolished the Navigation Bar by incorporating the three main functions into a sensor button."
Awwww... if it had been "a new variant of Android, free from Google's poison and with its own curated app store", I'd have been on it in a heartbeat!
"Boy, they must love what Nokia are doing now."
Probably as much as Google must love that when you take mobile out of the equation (ie: look at productivity as opposed to calling, texting, posting pictures of your dinner on instagram and playing the latest clone of whatever's F2P game is popular right now), Android does not even register as a desktop OS, and Chrome OS has less than one percent market share...
Odds on Google forcing this down people's throats as they did with the Chrome browser, and are now trying to do with the Pixel phone?
How long after this launches before any search related to a TV show, sport event or suchlike will prompt and great big link at the top of the results list along the lines of "Upgrade your viewing experience!", pointing directly at the Google TV sign-up page?
Not many manufacturers would go out of their way to work around a problem in another manufacturer's product with such a tiny impact.
... and yet, had this been a Microsoft issue, you can bet your life that there would be the usual lemongrab-esque flood of outrage on here....
... but, as the first person to post has pointed out, since it's a Microsoft thing, they're obviously doing this with the intention of removing that option of control at some point in the future in order to maximise profits and force this on all of us whether we want it or not...
Never mind that legacy 32-bit apps have been a major blocker in tightening up security in Windows - which the very same sort of people who complain about this sort of thing are all too quick to lambast...
... after all, I'd hate Trump to pull out all the stops and get something up there for July 20th, year-after-next.
2017 - the year of Linux on the Desktop!
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... until ads are merely text or fixed images to the right or underneath the footer of any content, my adblockers stay switched on.
@illiad - I am a web developer by trade, so I'm pretty well versed on a number of browsers, including Firefox, Chrome and Edge, thanks to version testing
I am also an indie game developer in my spare time, and I see lots of brilliant games that go completely unnoticed, simply because they do not have marketing to push them into visibility.
Chrome is a good browser - probably the best - but its massive success is purely down to Google's aggressive (ab)use of their near-monopoly on web searching.
"Chrome is rammed home by a billion dollar advertising business, down every channel they control."
I would go so far as to say that the primary reason that Chrome is the #1 browser is that from when it launched we started seeing "Why not upgrade your browser?"
Imagine the outrage if Microsoft had a check when Windows started to see if the default browser was Edge, and prompt the user to "upgrade" if it was not?
And I expect it won't be long before we start seeing this kind of monopoly abuse to get the Pixel some traction as well.
"'Allo' Siri-and-Cortana competitor now speaks Hindi"
... and probably can listen in on, analyse, and send home data extracted from conversations in Hindi, I would imagine.
"At least you can mostly de-Google an Android phone."
Great! What's the url for the vetted Android apps store that isn't Google Play, please?
"Has anyone who's criticising it actually used it?"
Since when has anyone actually needed to use anything from Microsoft in order to criticise it?
Bonnie & Clyde.
Ronnie & Reggie.
... and now Google and Barclays.
"... which allowed APK executables to run unmodified on Windows 10"
Ah, so that explains how you get malware onto a Win10 phone...
"I don't have much choice on a phone"
Yeah you do - depends what you want from a phone. For example, my contract is about to expire, so I'm looking to "upgrade" to something not too dissimilar to the trusty old 1100 I had prior to the iPhone I have currently (which I got solely because I needed an iOS test device at the time).
Even if I had to have a smartphone, I'd sooner go Apple or Microsoft than Android - lesser of evils and all that.
And as for this new router or whatever it is - over my cold, dead, rotted corpse.
"Google only has 11 of the 38 pre-installed apps on a Galaxy S7"
... and how many on the new Pixel phone? You can't compare a the case of a company that's providing their software on their hardware and your own company's software pre-installed on third-party hardware.
What's the percentage of Google apps on their own phone?
... it's a bitch, ain't it?
"Google... has agreed to 'ensure consumers are given an opportunity to remedy their breaches'"
... unless it gives them an opportunity to attack their competitors, of course.
"... my son got two just for listening to a 15 min sales pitch..."
All part of the "hook 'em while they're young" strategy - if they grow up being spied on, they won't know any different. Probably explains why people accept Google's antics while at the same time whining about Windows 10 telemetry...
"They will enter the job market with next to zero influence from Microsoft"
... but 100% under Google's influence - these smartphones "grafted into the hands" of the young guns; chances are that 80% of them will be running Android, and these same kids will have grown up using a company name as the verb for searching the web. The "get 'em hooked while they're young" tactic is in full swing: this time last year, half of the classroom devices sold in the US were Chromebooks.
So yes, the chances are that in the future, there will be some flavour of Linux powering enterprise. But you can bet your life that it will be the Google-licenced version, as approved by Big Brother, watching your every move and slurping many times the data that Win10 currently is.
Another case for being able to multiple-upvote...
... and which search engine do you use?
"“Google scrambled to try and fix the problem, but they cannot really do it as the problem is in hardware,"
Odds on the pixel phone not being vulnerable and giving Google another way to undercut the competition?
"This raises the possibility that Google is leveraging the enormous media influence of its video monopoly to help along its consumer hardware business"
I was using my other half's machine this weekend and forgot her homepage was Google search. Opened a web browser to be confronted with a link under the search box along the lines of "Pixel - the new phone from Google".
Exactly the same tactics as how they made Chrome the #1 browser - by (ab)using their market position in other areas. How long before a significant percentage of YouTube ads are for Pixel, I wonder...
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