Re: I realise it's simplistic but....
Perhaps they were all stuck in their seats needing to go to the loo and, well nature took its course? Then the lights went off due to the 'damp problem'?
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Perhaps they were all stuck in their seats needing to go to the loo and, well nature took its course? Then the lights went off due to the 'damp problem'?
@ Natalie Gritpants
No it is not and on all levels, it is just another spoilt brat.
Perhaps it is simply the NSA's/CSA's front door feature to allow 'permitted access' as required to confirm how daft users of these device really are?
This now pointless rubbish is not even IDIOTIC (Internet Direct Integration of Threats Including Chaos/Criminals) since Bluetooth is not an internet protocol.
I agree with everything you said and upvoted your thoughtful post. However, I also feel that sending out what appear to be death threats and a notification of an intent to take what he desired to be deadly action, is really not the brightest action. Following through with something clearly designed to activate a potentially harmful condition was dumber than being purely stupid. Stabbing someone or even shooting them is also not always fatal, but has anyone seen that being used as a defence?
Is he the sort of entrepreneur the new 'so called president' Trump, (honoured with 'so called after objecting to so called judges questioning his errors) would like to see making money off of Americans?
Or would he not like the competition?
What a bunch of really, truly stupid bozo's. Perhaps they want to be called kiddie choice book? I have never had any interest in the dummybook and preferred to refer to it as bumbook, but this latest stupid move does so much take the biscuit but the entire biscuit factory.
Did you hear the really crass statement that the FB's UK dumb-nuts communications twit gave to the BBC when he or anyone else was too afraid to appear in person.
I agree that it would be best to sent wallybook a link in future, perhaps a mass mailing of links relating to crap would be the way forward, but then the dodgy character in charge would probably blame people for finding FB were hoarding illegal material.
Should FB be added to the UK black list of 'unsuitable sites' and give some of our population a reason to get a life once more?
Call them 'lottery meters' they generate random numbers that you can use to lose on the lottery. A double success, overpay and lose your stake - time for a stake, straight through the heart of this pile of agricultural effluent.
And Google trusts 'users', (or should that be 'losers') why exactly?
Sounds a bit like protection rackets and the laundrette wars of a few years back.
It is also known as poisoning the well in some circles.
Sodding Awful Software licenses?
@Lost all faith, only if you are a relation of that woman north of the border.
Whatever transaction I conduct I want a paper receipt to keep track of what I spend or to prove that I have paid for the item. I track every item at home and check every statement as it comes in, all unexpected items are immediately queried. Perhaps this is because I draw no line between cash or money in a column of figures on a sheet or on computer screen. Perhaps it is also why I carry no debts and do not borrow, why pay interest and double the cost of an item?
Wave and pay has yet to have any advantage for me and as for huge modern mobiles, I do not want anything that large and I certainly don't want to keep handling or touching the damned thing. Shirt pocket size is big enough for me and until I can get the functions I use in anything to replace the ten your old phone I now use the pressures is to not downgrade.
@Marketing Hack is right people feel the pain when they physically pay out, once you have learned the connection, changing the payment method still involves the realisation of money changing hands, mine to theirs, the method drops out of the equation.
Perhaps I should get into usury business now to benefit from this brave new world, but if it involves using a 'phone the size of a paperback book, perhaps I will not bother.
I can say this as I have never used them and see even less reason to start using them now.
Our fridge-freezer was bought in about 1975 and apart from a new thermostat that I fitted several years ago, it has never been serviced. It now lives in the integral garage, and has done so since about 1992. So this makes it more than half my age. Oh and being that old it can still operate successfully even when the garage temperature drops.
Why the £$%^&*)(*&^%$£ would I want something that has to clutter up WiFi (with what pointless signal noise?) and probably ends up being a vector for the next DOS campaign?
Your company took laptops across a boarder, any boarder with data on them?
Frankly I find that highly surprising given the state of knowledge anytime in the past 15~20 years, unless of course they had previously filled the hard drive with dummy or otherwise false data.
I completely agree, I have user specific voice control for required functions on my ten year old Nokia mobile. It is the one feature I need on the phone, however it is not entirely voice, a single physical contact on the headphone is also required to wake up the feature making for relatively secure user specific voice activation. What a shame modern phones cannot appear to do the same basic job. The modern items cost so much, do everything I do not want or need, yet cannot supply my one want making them useless for me.
Was there a word missing or are humans made by vesical interactions?
Quote prevent 500,000 crashes, and approximately 1,000 lives EndQuote
Is there a desire to prevent such lives?
@Phil O' Sophical I live about a mile from a motorway leading to / from London and less than 30 miles from central London. I would really like 2G reception in house rather than the zero bars that I normally get. My mobile phone is really only useful as a mobile phone when it is out and about. Most times I deny having a mobile to avoid callers wasting their time calling, I always point possible callers to the land line since that normally works and the quality is far better. There is no point 'upgrading', (really downgrading) to something more expensive and less useful until it 'works', whatever that means in this wants-to-be-third-world-country.
I absolutely agree with your comments and no doubt the other side will hammer in. If anyone takes the time to follow real life, e.g. by watching the flow through the Job Centre they will see what a depressing place it can be. Many come because they are unable to work through no fault or error of their making. Possibly > 90% fall into this group, but you do also get the odd one or two who are a delight for headline writers short of a space filler. the characters who have missed 6 appointments in a row who clearly explain it is not their fault as they "do not do mornings".
Let me very clear the >90% are deserving of very carefully crafted help, the sort of help that was available back in the late 1940s and early 1950s, when the country needed to find people to work at whatever they could do. But back then efforts were made to try to find what was possible, not reasons to find that it was impossible for them to do anything. Job roles were found and some of them were still working and earning when I joined the labour force in the 1960s. Their accumulated skills served them well and they were often well respected members of the workforce, except when other more able bodied failed to communicate with them and used assumption not communication. I know I had to sort out the messes that created. Then of course we started resorting to importing people to try to fill the gaps, there is no intent to denigrate the imported workers.only to worry that today's stop gap is all too easily tomorrow's problem
So now stop simply ticking boxes, start to deal with people and their issues in a quest for workable solutions to ease their lives. I have a close relation who urgently needs such help, a few hours voluntary work per week breaches their limits all too easily, following a string of medical problems. They don't moan about 'not doing mornings', but they do get hugely depressed about not having any quality of life and no way to improve that limiting situation.
For the record, they get no unemployment money or any other income either and relay on relations to house, feed, transport and clothe them.
How many yak pats is it the the local currency these days?
Still we could all stumble round in the dark with no heating eating raw food until frost bite, food poisoning or falling down the stairs put us in a hospital that was lacking enough patients. Oh dear we don't have any of those.
We just deal in over priced half baked ideas that are no damned good.
Just how was this supposed to do anyone who pays the bills any good?
So the fact (not supposition) that a certain Thomas Mair, 53 is stated to have used the contents of such a book to build a device to kill Jo Cox does not blow a hole in your weak arguement. It is not just stupid master mind terrorists but feable minded bigots and dopes we have to worry about. I realise you made a sort of Trump sound bite but is that all there is to life and death?
The acronym was wrong from the start, it is not IOT but the Internet Direct Integration of Threats Including Chaos, or IDIOTIC, It adds next to nothing and takes away as much as it can.
With more time and probably more thought, those with the required mathematical skills have realised that the data was capable of even more in depth analysis. Every event has its own unique signature. Sometimes it takes a great deal of time to decipher the more archane aspects of the item. How many here would be able to put their hands on all the skills required? It is one thing to read the work of others and superficially accept or follow the text. It is quite another to be able to generate the original ideas that allowed the analysis to be developed.
Whatever is said and done, the dead are still dead and will not be recovered. No analysis can change that. The burning, unanswered question that remains is why did it happen at all?
Only backside book is allowed to profit, the users are the commodity to be milked dry. Commodities do not make money, they make other people rich.
My wife has a modern car, it is like being in a fairground ride with sensors pinging and complaining distracting the driver from what matters.
So it is with the 'let's sell more junk squad'. If there is a medical problem use medical grade hardware and check the stuff to the nth degree, plus do it in a suitable location. If there is no medical issue, then remember, children have survived since before the cave people era without crap electronics. Safety proofing homes is another issue.
Note, medical places are very noisy, the wired sensors* are always falling off, they stick on but must be able to be removed without attached skin. The first few times you are there your insides want to join the outside world when the buzzers go off and the red lights burn. (You know some will die, but which ones and when?)
*Take care with the trailing wires, attendant tripping, infant strangulation and choking hazard for growing babies during unskilled user deployment.
I do not use the underground and avoid London like one would a plague pit.
I try to follow what I assume to be the RMT advice namely;
Your better off by far if you can get where you are going by car.
In any case most places I go to are nowhere near any sort of station, many are miles from a bus stop.
However, tomorrow I will use 'flash and dash', flash the bus pass and dash on the bus to a hospital. Then I shall hope to repeat the process in the reverse direction until I can drive again.
To get the phone out of its inside pocket is hard work whereas extracting a card is optimised for my easy access.
Oh and the phone only does exactly what I need. No flashy, hand held hardware, as I don't have three or more hands .I really don't want the phone handy for every two bit work dodger to steal. So please remind me, is there a point to wave your money goodbye technology and if so, why I should go to the inconvenience of something that is harder work and has generally poor battery life?
For many people the various items are just bits of kit to do jobs. Tools only need to be replaced when they can no longer do the job, break or the job changes. If the job is still getting done 'well enough'; why change the tool(s)?
A very interesting table, happily I have only lived in countries at the lower end of the tables. I suspect that clothing style along with open cooking fires and lighting sources plays a part in a few countries.
Basic understanding failure here.
Asking people to evacuate because of a fire issue is one thing. Some fool shouting fire will have people clambering over seats and other people in their haste to irrationally cause panic, if the fire does not do anything much the panic has and will kill people..
I was on a bus once, the conductor came half way up the stairs after the bus stopped and the engine died. He asked polity for everyone to please get off the bus, people started to grumble and shuffle, when he added because its on fire, the speed increased but without panic. Just shouting fire from some random place would have produced a different response.
(We all stood looking through the windows to see what had happened. A small bit of browned floor due to an exhaust blow, we were all disappointed.)
Oh glitches, early in the morning I read it as little ditches, i.e. things you fall into or drive into by accident when avoiding something that was not there; just like a want to be smart(er) device would.
Nice picture of someone, carefully crafted eye shaped cut outs, match the old eye subject with a new one, now blink please. It cannot possibly go wrong can it?
My phone has no interest in apps, or other stuff; it makes calls so why would everyone have to care about car apps, bank apps, and for that matter the heating needs no apps, just fingers. Interestingly so do phones, unless they have good voice control as the my present one does via its Blue-tooth headphone. The front door uses weird metal things, called keys, (yes plural). So no risk of my home having insecure hardware to be used for remote DDoS, turning the heating up to full blast or down to arctic levels, etc.
I would still like to find a use for a phone of this type as obtaining good batteries for my old one is becoming very hard.
However, the price is something of a huge turn off.
Slightly used iDevices, some cosmetic damage, sold as seen, but you know they are only to be looked at.
Well you use the cold water fill option.
OK, I have a few different fridges, one is 40 plus years old and the other two lasted a longish time and have just been replaced. Their replacements will likely be some way off in the future when I am unlikely to be interested. The heating thermostat is only 25 years old and probably good for at least another 25 ~ 50 years, so no hurry there.
The boiler controller was 25 years old and was only replaced when the boiler was done because the installers were here doing the job anyway. So far after almost a year I have managed to set the same programme for every day of the week, other things should be possible but (a) too damned difficult (the installer gave up and passed me the book) and (b) lacking in any point or purpose.
Now remind me why I should buy some things to make life more complex and which some scum bag, probably in Russia might be able to miss-operate more easily than I could when stood next to the heap of junk.
Best of all I really, really, do not need the crap.
The Right to be shafted.
The Right to be gouged.
The Right to no redress for shoddy service.
The Right to no redress over shoddy provisions.
The Right to no redress for anything supplied by a US company however dangerous.
The Right for the government to fine overseas entities anything they like whether justified or not.
You get the picture over rights?
Sadly many people feel they are the only one and finding out how to moan or complain can be a distraction they do not want. I have complained from time to time but it is not always easy or a very satisfactory process.
Icon suggests a better punishment for offenders.
It is a shame there is no 'do not spam' list anywhere.
@Ivan how do you know they are not already being bot hearded? I thought that they were connected via mobile access so apart from crashing mobile networks what is more likely to happen?
I do not know what they are capable of doing, hence the question. They might be too dumb to do anything much, but other experience suggests that will not be the case, an over capable off the shelf part more likely.
IOT, sorry, that should be Internet Direct Integration of Threats Including Chaos, IDIoTIC.
Unmanaged and largely unmanageable device with just enough smarts to be dangerous flung out where they can do most harm and little benefit, what could go wrong?
I am not sure that most people do not know that turning something on will increase their bill and I thought that under the Dumb Meter scheme you can have a drawer filler, oops sorry a monitoring device to watch as you turn things on and off.
I do not want to disagree with what you said because I think you are broadly right but we turn things on and use them because we want them to do something and turn them off when we are done. Watching drivers act like they are on a drag strip or tyre testing course suggests that many are not aware of the relationship between heavy right foot and fuel bills.
Large utility bills do have some impact but who wants cold water baths, weeks old unwashed clothing etc.? I am guessing not too many.
However, I agree that the present system is about as broken as it can be, while still being able to minimally function.
However, better make it healthy low fat, low Carb, Low cal popcorn. But make it better quality than what-is-her-name's legal games.
On second thoughts is this a taster for some new TV series. a sort of legal comedy?
@ Novex, that is what I thought. The choice appears very dangerous, I can see a few issues coming down the road over that one.
@ SuccessCase Because my elderly Nokia can do the hands free that I NEED it is still in service and because these horrible touch me, look at me, love me phones are next to useless to me they remain in an untouched, unlooked at after the first few looks to check and unloved by me state. Perhaps you also use hammers to drive in screws, (I am not saying you actually do so by the way) others use screwdrivers. If you need a tool you need it to do the job you need done, otherwise it might as well be just a lump of sandy stuff and other minerals.
I am divided by this point.
Think about it if you worked for a company that would be adversely affected by a political policy promising to make their activity illegal. In that case it would be sensible to advise you that you might be directly impacted by the vote, as your job would exist any more.
Note in the carefully crafted example that would not be a threat, but a statement of fact.
In the VM case the 'costs' of Brexit appear marginal and within the range of business variables that a well run company should normally be expected to handle.
It used to be said that while the UK had the best justice system money could buy the US had the best police forces money could buy. The commercial terms might have adjusted slightly but the news clips do suggest that at least a part of the US police leave something to be desired, e.g. like brains and thought processes.
I huge improvement in recruiting and vetting appears to be needed so that a wide range of post holders understand what their job really is and their responsibilities for doing the role.
Only then tools should be supplied for use by trained, up-skilled and vetted staff for the purposes and only the purposes agreed.
Title says it all, I had another parasite ring on my emergency phone today while I was busy dealing with something important. Frankly watering the porcelain is more important than scammers and what I was dealing with was more important than that.
Mind you watering the scammers that way is a delicious thought
Next we will hear that foxes make good chicken herders.
They are the people who served with court orders believe that the instructions do not apply to them.
Or based on no evidence at all will black list people from ever having an account.
Yet with no fanfare at all will allow criminals to open accounts to syphon off other people's cash.
However expect those who cannot travel to come into a branch 30 miles away to be up-sold crap, sorry verify their identity.
Yes we all trust banks...
...to screw up like the rest of the mindless, thoughtless, computer button pushers.
Forty years ago someone wrote that businesses do not need computer systems, the first thing they need are working systems that might then be computerised.
Glad(?) to know nothing changes.
This could be turned against those who automate. 'Crook Debt collectors Plc' might once have had an office somewhere. Just send them an invoice for say £10 which will not be paid, then send them a county court paper for the same address. That should tie them up for months as a CCJ should be an inconvenience to them as a business.
I had trouble changing the tariff with a well known mobile operator. Their web site is more like a useless sticky maze and whose telephone hindrance service offers nothing useful. I can see how their exploits go foul. I had to find an office with real people to start to unpick their mess. I had a further demonstration of how utterly useless they are today.Hopefully it will be sorted after more time has been wasted - perhaps I should bill them for mileage and wasted time. Bill to be sent to their old office of course...
I never became sucked into Skype, so I have nothing to loose. It did not offer me enough back then and offers less now, oh dear.
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