Not totally brain-dead?
Until his not-so-clever but not totally brain-dead customers put their little thinking caps on and realize - "hey - if I had any other smart phone - I'd have the ~real~ Flash..."
22 posts • joined 25 Aug 2009
What a moronic statement. Flash has led the way in innovation for the past decade.
Where do you think online video would be without Flash?
Where do you think Apple got all of the cool little animation tweens for transitions with the iPhone. The same animations that all smart phones now use and are becoming staples of Ajax pages as well. Flash had been doing that for 10 years before the iPhone. Who the hell do you think INVENTED the RIA?
And Flash is better than ever and here to stay. My advice? Learn ActionScript 3. Have some fun with Flash - if you have the programming chops.
The author states... "HTML5 offers an open architecture that all can build and help maintain and that is genuinely cross-platform."
"Genuiely coross-platform"? Really?
That's why whenever you try to load up a complex application in the browser that goes well beyond mark-up, you get messages like - "Sorry - you must use IE8, Firefox or blah, blah, blah."
I'm so sick of you sheep who can't mention the word Flash with qualifying it with a derogative like (if awful), etc. Why is it awful? Because Steve Jobs said it was?
C'mon, you can think for yourself.. it takes just a little more effort - but you can do it.
Does anybody seriously believe the web is going to start being more HTML-like and less richly interactive? This argument against Flash is just silly. Here's an example of the future of media interfaces on the Web...
Notice even though it's all Flash, the URL changes with each asset page. That's for SEO.
Even Forrester understands that HTML5 is NOT AN OPTION.
For you HTML'ers... hey, Flash still needs a container - for now...
Flashers welcome The Google Embrace!
Now c'mon, we all know plugins are the only true solution to cross-browser - cross-platform...
Let's just all be buds and promote what's good for The Web.
SilverLight too - the new Web can easily accommodate both.
Flash is The Future...
Do you think web pages are going to be more HTML-like or more iPhone-style liquidity - like you get with Flash?
No. Google is down because of concerns over dropping out of China.
But, in fairness, you're right. One day doesn't prove anything in the market.
BTW - AAPL now down 2.1%
Still, Apple's decision to piss off the most creative Developers in the World - Flashers - is going to cost AAPL dearly. Don't say I didn't warn you...
The ad arguments against Flash are pretty moronic.
If Flash somehow magically disappeared, do you think advertisers would stop advertising?
I've said it before and I'll say it again - 2010 is The Year Of The Flasher:
Join or get left behind.
Instead of whining about Flash - some of you could be learning ActionScript and taking part in the fun. You'll have to have an aptitude for writing software - so some of you won't be able.
It's a wonderful, very supportive community. We'll help you along.
C'mon - you know deep inside Flash is not going away. Do you think User Interfaces are going to get more like HTML? Download the Flash 10.1 beta. Get yourself a smart phone and start making something cool...
Either way, I and a million other Flashers are... it's not too late.
HTML standards will continue to add stuff and improve at a rate that keeps them about 5 years behind Flash...
Flash's proprietary nature, ironically is a HUGE advantage in that it can innovate and be ubiquitous in 8 months... Standards take 5-6 years.
Every cool feature in HTML5 was inspired by Flash.
This setup is not changing anytime soon. That's very good for our beloved Internet.
For a suppose techie site, these people are well... technical dumb-asses. Let me try to explain how software works...
A SWF starts off as a blank slate. Then, developers of varying skill levels write code...
A highly skilled coder will write lean, fast and bug-free code...
A less skilled coder might write bloated, slow and buggy code...
Maybe Jobs should leave out the JPG standard since some people post huge JPG files.
Don't talk authoritatively about software when you don't have a freaking clue!
Ask yourself what the percentage of browsers in the World can render HTML5.
Then ask yourself how many people are still running IE6 which came out 8 years ago.
Then tell yourself HTML5 will not be viable for another 8-10 years.
Sorry - that's the way "Open Standards" work. You'll have to deal with that horrible, mean 'ol Flash for many years to come.
I'm a Christian. But I acknowledge "human beings are in general very similar indeed to chimpanzees". Gophers, roosters and penguins too.
I don't know one Christian who doesn't acknowledge that.
I understand it's fashionable to bash Christianity among brilliant intellectuals like you people obviously are. It just gets a little old, predictable and boring.
Proprietary is better in this case. Here's why:
Anyone who has actually developed web pages for a living, knows how painful it is to make your pages look the same across browsers and platforms.
Flash looks the same across browsers and platforms - BECAUSE it is proprietary.
Flash will always be light years ahead in terms of cutting edge features - BECAUSE it is proprietary.
Flash will always perform better - BECAUSE it is proprietary.
Time to get off of the 'proprietary is bad' mantra. Let's examine the technologies on their merit.
Flash is a platform for displaying content. It is not the content itself. While some beginner level Flashers embed actual content (text, images, etc) inside a SWF, professional Flashers load configurable content at runtime using JSON, XML, etc.
Using Progressive Enhancement, professional Flashers create an experience that can be read by search engines, screen readers and users who don't have the Flash plugin. Using this method, only users with the Flash plugin see the Flash display. Search Engines Spiders don't have the Flash plugin - so they see only text - and index it.
This is not new. We've been doing this for at least 6 years.
RIM realizing that they need Flash to provide a complete experience leaves just one notable exception among the major smart phones - Mr Steve. He has cleverly milked his users for what he could - but now he'll have no choice. Flash on the iPhone within 1 year. He has to or become irrelevant.
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