But, but, but . . .
These Scandinavians are so very ethical
503 posts • joined 14 May 2007
My friend told me this. The company he's working for is being "integrated" with 2 others. They all use different software and it will be replaced by completely new software. As the firms have different maintenance contracts for their current software, management has cleverly optimized the transition, so they will save 30.000 € on maintenance invoices.
This means that nearly 100 people will have to be trained with the new software twice. You heard that right, they're going from software A to software B, then finally to software D in a period of six months.
Oh, and also the database will have to be converted twice.
"The historic accident record would indicate that, as far as aviation is concerned, that is in fact correct. The problem is you don't see the accidents that would be happening if all landings were made manually."
Why would you say that? You seem to think that most landing are done on autopilot. That's not correct, most landings are done manually. Usually, only landings in poor weather conditions are done on autopilot.
Also, take into account that pilots are blamed, even when it's blatantly obvious that it's the precious autopilot who crashed the plane. So you can't trust the historic accident record either.
Another fine example of pilots fighting the automatic controls, losing the fight and paying with their lives.
And finally being blamed by the people who designed and/or approved the faulty system.
What makes this even more bitter is that pilots were ordered by management to use autopilot while landing. Because every non-techie knows that complex automated systems are for more trustworthy than trained professionals.
"It can't really be blamed on the averaging."
No, it can and should be blamed on averaging. Averaging two similar inputs is appropriate. Averaging two very different or even opposite inputs is clearly a mistake. This was an error in the system.
Because the system was designed and approved by people who were later asked to decide who was to blame, they decided to blame the pilots. But they shouldn't have been allowed on de judges seat, they should have been in the booth of the accused.
It seems we humans are simply not capable of building complex and robust systems.
Yet non-techies, like politicians, managers and other fools, are very impressed by complex systems, probably because they are very expensive.
"This is a bit like the Air France flight 447 crash. Where the aircraft was "averaging" the inputs of the two pilots - whose cockpit discipline had broken down and were both trying to fly the plane at once. This is a situation that can't be allowed - and the automation shouldn't allow."
This really is a no-brainer. One of the pilots is called the captain, the other is the called the co-pilot.
The software must be designed by morons, there is no other logical explanation.
Find them, throw them out of a flying helicopter.
You will see the quality of the software increase dramatically.
"The prosecutor was quite open about this, he said that "Microsoft wants his head on a platter"."
That's an admission of guilt right there. The prosecutor is not working for Microsoft, he's working for the state.
If he's taking orders from Microsoft, he should be fired and prosecuted.
You guys sold him the entire system, set everything up, but didn't hook up the printer.
You had one of these "ooh, I'm so smart" techie guys over there who just knows for sure he doesn't have to test or explain anything. Didn't you?
You say that, but.
They're morons who are making lots of money behaving like morons. So not so stupid after all.
The real morons are the companies who give them their money to piss of their customers.
Are these the same morons who explain to us that the reason the economy is in a slump because our wages are too expensive?
Yes, but they only only do that because they think we're even bigger morons.
How stupid do you have to be to think that we're morons?
Pretty stupid indeed.
You say that, but.
These morons are also making lots of money.
So who's the moron now?
We can question the ethical standards of our allies (technically they are not), but such is the nature of compromise.
This will set back a diplomatic solution, if it doesn't make it impossible.
Why were we carrying out this airstrike so deep in Syrian territory, with Syrian military in close proximity, just days after the agreement? Surely the Russians were in a better position to deal with this as they probably have a direct com link with these Syrians.
One of my clients was a company, run by two brothers. One of them died. I made a note of that in our CRM software, indicating he shouldn't be contacted anymore. That comment got removed by HQ and they continued to contact him. The company complained to me and I put the note back in. Again, it got removed by HQ and they continued to contact him.
I put the comment back in with a warning to a Dutch twat and the physical damage I had in store for him if he removed the note again.
So they deleted him as a contact person and with that went all information, emails, visits and contracts that were linked to him.
is that they have all very logical and sane explanations on why they have come to such a stupid decision. And they are determined to repeat their mistakes if given the chance. That's why a firing squad is an optimal solution, also because we don't want them to procreate.
1. It DID override the pilots, it should have automatically disengaged when the pilots throttled up, instead it throttled back down. You admit as much, but you blame the pilots for "neglecting to disengage the commanded autothrottle and let it resume control, not noticing that the thrust levers moved back to idle when they took their hands off." So you're expecting the pilots, in a very stressful situation, to actually FIGHT the system that is supposed to support them. While letting off the hook the people that have designed a basically flawed system, sitting comfortable at their desk. POOR DESIGN.
2. So sending the correct invoice is more important to these companies than knowing where their plane is. Again, only to crazy people this makes sense. Just because they wear a tie and are able to speak coherent sentences in English, that doesn't make them any less crazy, just more dangerous.
3. "the warnings triggered as designed but because the horn sound used isn't unique it confused the flight crew into debugging the wrong problem". Confusing error messages eh. Well I guess that makes it alright then. No it doesn't. Are you saying there is no digital screen in this entire cockpit where they could put this vital information on. In big red blinking letters? So they're drowning the pilots in useless information and obscuring the most urgent information available. But somehow that is pilot error, instead of what it obviously is? POOR DESIGN.
4. What is more likely, a single mad men at the controls or the only sane person at the controls.
Let's face it, it's designed by a committee. All the good pilots are flying the planes, and all the crappy pilots, and a couple of accountants and MBA types are sitting in the committee. And they are also the ones shouting "pilot error" when everything falls apart.
Very clever? I wonder.
I remember a Turkish airliner where the pilot was effectively overruled by the automatic pilot who decided the plane had already landed so it simply refused to continue flying. So it crashed short of the landing strip in Schiphol. Of course, that was decided human error as well, because hey, the pilot is always in control right. In my opinion: poor design.
Not squawking useful information like location, heading and speed: poor design.
No warning when the automatic oxygen system isn't activated: poor design
The autopilot deciding the plane has already landed because an altimeter shows a reading that's blatantly wrong: poor design.
Deciding to shut the cabin door with only one pilot at the controls: stupid! Whoever decided this should be put in front of a firing squad. Live ammo for me please.
Blaming the pilot for this: incompetents covering their ass.
"the lack of a squawk that said something useful about location and status is something that is trivial to remedy" Why is it squawking only gibberish and not something usefull then. Surely a couple of coordinates, heading and speed every 15 minutes doesn't take to much bandwidth?
Helios 522 "the pilots hadn't seen that the oxygen system was not activated" Gee, and nobody ever considered putting a warning on a vital system?
"and the remaining pilot turned the pressurisation mode to manual". A "kill all the passengers button" can be very handy indeed. Could I get one installed in my car you think? Or would that raise eyebrows?
So again, who designed this?
I'm so old, I remember when cars came without safety belts. But hey, you could add them yourself.
Kids pyjamas would be so inflammable, they would turn your offspring in a burned crisp in seconds. But hey, a parent should keep them away from open fires right?
It is bad design. And the only way it will be corrected is to enforce it by making them pay for the damages caused by their stupidity.
Exactly. At the moment we see careless drivers explaining to the judge that the accident really wasn't their fault but the judge won't believe them.
In the future we'll see careless coders explain to the judge that the accident really wasn't their fault and there's a big chance they'll get away with it.
Such an incident is always a combination of mistakes and misunderstandings.
Communication from the tower was confusing. From GavinCs post: "They were instructed to depart "Runway 09#T1", which is used to refer to a full length takeoff. It seems they may have confused this with a take-off beginning from taxiway T1."
Also, airports have radar, yet nobody noticed they didn't start take off from the start correct spot? Why isn't the remaining length of the runway indicated at each taxiway?
Who sets up these fragile systems and keeps getting away with it?
Better not ask these questions and blame the pilots.
"They were instructed to depart "Runway 09#T1", which is used to refer to a full length takeoff. It seems they may have confused this with a take-off beginning from taxiway T1."
Well, that's confusion terminology isn't it. They could have called the departing aircraft T1 and the control tower also T1 I guess.
We don't need these sloppy systems that are so prone to error and misunderstandings.
We need robust systems, where an error is corrected.
Surely the airport has radar as well. Didn't anybody notice that the plane didn't take off from the start of the runway?
Why doesn't the runway count down in big numbers the remaining length of the runway at every 500 meters? Noooo, we have a smart system with coloured lines. Off course you do. And when the aircraft reaches the coloured lines, it's too late to abort the take off. How very smart of you.
No doubt they will attribute it to human error again. They've got that right, but they're aiming at the wrong humans. They are the ones who pile mistake on mistake and refuse to accept any responsibility.
These systems is set up by fools who see no problem in losing a plane fully loaded with crew and passengers in mid-air and see no reason to install a simple GPS system like the ones installed in company owned vans and trucks.
Can't we give them a rubber dinghy and make them search the seas for that missing Malaysian airliner?
Sometimes you just turn it on.
This is a few decades ago, and it didn't happen to me, but to a colleague. I know, I know, it always happens to a colleague, but this time I saw him drive away, return the next day and I saw the visitors report.
So the customer is in a frenzy because they want the printer to print, and it doesn't print. Is the green light on? We are assured the green light is on. Are any other lights blinking? Is there enough paper. No, yes, yes & yes.
So we send someone over. The green light is not on, the printer is not on, it is turned off. Also, the plug is disconnected from the socket. Customer explains that perhaps he saw the reflection of the sunlight. Except there's no window in the room. Anyway, 2 days work and one embarrassed customer.
A couple of months ago I visited a customer and had to print a report there. He insisted that the report should be printed on that thare printer. Since it was the default printer that everybody used in the office all the time.
Printer was turned off, the electrical cord was missing, there was not a single sheet of paper in it. It was covered in dust, it was clear it hadn't been touched in at least year.
Took me 1 hour to get it working again, changed to report to charge the extra hour. Customer pretended to be surprised. I pulled procedure on the prick with enthusiasm.
I hate to say this, but I'm afraid the police got it right this time. At least, looking at the picture, it looks like a hoax bomb.
Of course, it also looks like a clock. And it is a clock. But can it also be a hoax bomb?
It's definitely not a time bomb. A time bomb is an explosive with a clock to set it off. Since there's no explosive, it's not a time bomb. But the police never claimed it was a time bomb, they claimed it was a hoax bomb. And a hoax bomb doesn't require an explosive. Or to be more accurate, the mere presence of an explosive would disqualify it as a hoax bomb, it would have been a time bomb.
So the police is right, it looks like a hoax bomb. To be more precisely, it looks like a digital clock and that's exactly what a hoax bomb looks like.
However, does that make it a hoax bomb? In my opinion no.
According to Cambridge English Dictionary: a hoax is a plan to deceive someone, such as telling the police there is a bomb somewhere when there is not one.
So for it to not be a clock, but a hoax bomb, Ahmad would have be running around in the school shouting "Bomb Bomb". But probably "Die all you infidels" would also qualify.
I don't know whether he did that, we can't ascertain looking at the picture. But since there are no reports he did, we must assume he didn't.
There fore, the object in the picture looks like a clock and is a clock.
It also looks like a hoax bomb, but it is not a hoax bomb.
Glad I was able to clear that up for you.
If the pent up technology growth from the 30's launched the world in a solid economic growth, why didn't it continue?
When did the PC hit the market? Wordprocessors and spreadsheets? Networked PC's and the internet?
So why didn't this growth continue?
Paul Krugman wrote an article about it: "the big meh" http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/25/opinion/paul-krugman-the-big-meh.html?_r=0
Not questioning the IT angle, but IT as a whole ;-)
"Sentiments wouldn't be as bad if the Greek government would actually be able to, or even actually tried to, get its affairs in order."
The Greek government trying to get its affairs in order, that was actually the thing that started this whole mess.
The traditional Greek political parties still running the show after the crisis, reducing pensions and unemployment benefits got an attaboy. When a leftist government took over and planned to tax wealthy Greeks and foreign companies, that's when Germany and Europa started foaming at the mouth.
Germans are usually pretty smart people, they know their stuff. So how could German economists get it so wrong? They went to universities, they studied economy and passed the exams. And while they have a different experience with history, would that alone explain the opposite view they hold on the monetary crisis the EZ is still in?
I don't think so.
Let's look at Greece. Unemployment is way up, wages are down. Pensions and unemployment benefits are down. The Greek state is not able to collect the taxes from wealthy Greeks, nor from foreign companies.
That may look pretty awful for you and me, but it's the closest thing to paradise on earth for some very influential people.
So when the traditional Greek political parties (all of them) organised this disaster for their own people, everything was ok for Europe. Only after the desperate Greek electorate put a leftist government in place, the European parliament discovered that "the necessary reforms had not been carried out" and the Greek tax system wasn't very efficient.
You just know something is wrong when Guy Verhofstadt is accusing a leftist government about not wanting to tax the rich: www.youtube.com/watch?v=P84tN0z4jqM
When he was pm in Belgium, our tax system was effectively gutted creating very large lope holes for big companies and banks. At the same time, our justice system has been reorganized into chaos so not a single one of the big cases against tax evasion or corruption was successfully tried.
I agree, some poor f*cker will be blamed.
Accidents like this are usually the result of a chain reaction of mistakes. The biggest mistake was to design an unstable system, that could not be overridden manually.
And it's very unlikely that the people who made that decision, will be held responsible. It is much more likely that some of them will be sitting in the evaluation committee.
A safety measure to prevent out-of-control engines powering back up, caused out-of-control engines to not power up.
Even Star Trek tos has a manual override on every critical system.
The problem is over confidence in technology and not enough confidence in highly trained people.
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