Re: SPARC is not even competitive to Power
"....Clearly the Oracle marketing team had an extra shot of espresso today. Statements about SPARC outperforming Power7/7+, copying SPARC features, SPARC is significantly less expensive than Power, oh yal and the old reliable "Oracle software licensing cost is 2X more on Power, etc, etc is laughable. These statements are misleading at best...."
Oh, this sounds like good old IBM FUD. Lots of unsubstantiated negative claims about a competitor, with no proofs - this is actually the very definition of FUD. Spreading negative rumours which have no bearing in reality. "Yes, I heard this horrible rumour, but I can not prove it is true" - because it is not true.
So, if you do claim that SPARC does not outperform POWER7, or SPARC is not cheaper than POWER - can you show us some hard facts that prove your stand point? Show us some performance benchmarks. And show us some pricing comparisons. Come on, I dare you! :)
If you can not show any hard proofs (which you can not because we are telling the truth, just check the benhcmarks we posted) then it is the IBM camp that is a bit over ambitious again. :)
I remember one of the diligent IBM supporters here, who has not been active as of late. I said that the x86 is faster than POWER6 in LINPACK benchmarks, in response he said "no, it isnt. The POWER6 is faster in LINPACK because the POWER6 has faster cores" or something weird. I cant recall the logic he used because it was wrong, I cant think like that. I pointed out that you need two POWER6 cpus to match one Intel Xeon in LINPACK, but he said "well, the POWER6 has faster cores, so it is faster in LINPACK". Sure, the Xeon had six cores, and scored twice as high and if you count core wise the POWER6 was faster, true. But that does not make the POWER6 the faster cpu, does it? I dont understand the logic IBMers use.
I also said "in this benchmark the SPARC T2 has higher throughput than the POWER6 system" to which he replied "it doesnt matter, the POWER6 has lower latency which is the important thing!". Later I showed another benchmark where the SPARC T2 had lower latency, to which he replied "it does not matter, because the POWER6 has higher throughput, which is the important thing!". I really dont understand the logic IBMers use.
And now here comes this "PowerMan@thinksis" claiming lot of weird stuff, without providing any benchmarks nor pricing examples. Out out the blue he says we are all wrong, without pointing out the errors. "Trust me on this, but you are wrong, I can not tell you where you are wrong, but I know you are wrong. I am a doctor, trust me". I really dont understand the logic IBMers use. Or, lack of logic that IBMers use. Or just marketing aggressiveness the IBMers display.
BTW, have you heard that AIX is going to be killed off? It will supposedly happen sometime in the future when cheap Intel x86 cpus are catching up on expensive POWER cpus. Because IBM only does high margin business, and if the x86 are cheaper than POWER with same performance, then IBM will shut down POWER and AIX too. AIX runs only on POWER, and without POWER servers AIX can do nothing. So the POWER future looks grim. Yes, it is true, I really heard it. I am talking out of the blue? I am spreading false rumours that I just made up, or can I prove this? Well, read it here yourself and see I am not spreading false made up rumours, like the IBM camp does. No, instead I back up my claims with hard undeniable facts, straight from IBM.
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1001-982512.html
"...Asked whether IBM's eventual goal is to replace AIX with Linux, Mills responded, "It's fairly obvious we're fine with that idea...It's the logical successor." A replacement "won't happen overnight," Mills said, but years of experience designing operating systems at IBM and other companies means developers know just where Linux needs to go. "The road map is clear. It's an eight-lane highway."