So, the OL port for SPARC was scrapped, Fujitsu is showing it's post-K architecture based on ARM and now Oracle presents OL for ARM.
I wonder when will they merge the rest of the stuff from Solaris into OL...
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Corruption. It's what Huawei and Inspur are doing. I live in Venezuela and all of the pro-Chinese government is plagued with Huawei and Inspur, who sell at twice the price and leave half of the money in the hands of corrupt management, government and military.
You seem to have overlooked the fact that Solaris 11 has OpenStack too, so your oracle - Red Hat argument is invalid. Oracle has integrated OpenStack in it's OSs, OVM, storage (even tape with HSM) and networking and yet you are crying because your own favorite isn't on the list.
Oracle has Solaris Zones, Oracle VM based on Xen, oracle Linux OpenStack with KVM and LXC, enterprise manager and Horizon support... Yet you claim oracle should not be on the x86 virtualization quadrant, because you don't want to. How's that for a biased opinion?
They are no longer investing in AIX, only on Linux and you expect Power will survive, how?
OpenPower has existed for years and has not taken off, that will not change. There are more efficient CPU architectures, what exactly does Power brings to differentiate from x86 or ARM?
I have a dilemma... I'm not sure if I should humiliate you publicly for having no idea what a commercial workload is, and how high end and HPC differ from one another, or if you did that on your own stupidly enough. Paris is a good icon for you, as it's your best description, Ramazan.
"ASF is home to some of the biggest and most popular open-source projects on the web, gave us the ubiquitous server, and is one of the JCP's longest serving participants.
Google? The internet's largest search and advertising company, owner of Android - the fastest growing mobile phone operating system."
Open source WEB SERVER and SEARCH COMPANY... they are definitively not Java giants, nor Java companies.
"Nope, all they have to do is bundle in a cheap version of Sybase's database products with SAP for now, they have plenty of time to work on a more integrated stack including mobile toys. Oracle survives on pricey database licences, whereas SAP are more interested in selling the apps on top."
That's what Exadata does exactly for Oracle, and they still have plenty of time to keep integrating. No news there.
"Oh yeah, because Oracle have that well-known, market-leading ERP/BI/CRM tool called.... oh, no they actually don't! Nothing like the SAP suite."
Actually, most of the time the problem with Oracle is not that they lack applications, but that they have too many offerings... Have you even took the time to explore oracle applications site? http://www.oracle.com/us/products/applications/index.html ... Most of those are well known and market leading, being acquisitions of already well known products... and yes, many customers I have met use them, even if most use SAP, you can't just disregard Oracle's presence.
"The partnership could prove a real competitor for Oracle, which is still busy digesting its purchase of Sun."
No, I don't think so.
SAP will now need to digest this acquisition and it still doesn't compare to what Oracle can offer.
Also, take care to notice they are targeting mobile with this acquisition, not going head to head against Oracle. OTOH, customers ask for SAP on Oracle or SAP on MSSQL (depending on their infrastructure)... They won't migrate to sybase just for the sake of it.
This will be interesting nevertheless, but not real competition.
If I was Wideanus, I would keep quiet for a while before appearing in public after all he did... maybe change my name and face too.
After his attacks on code ownership, NOW (after he is left with no other choice) he wants to be a MySQL support company... of course.
Thanks but no thanks.. Drizzle OTOH is very interesting, let's see where it gets.
""To help you on your ignorance - It is spelled Solaris...." As we've discussed before, the moniker Slowaris was coined many years ago by dissatisfied Sun customers. "
Obviously, "many years ago" means it's not up to date with the times. Would you care to update your information now that at least you have admitted it's something past?... Please, try the latests releases of Solaris and explain where is it slow. And no, I don't care how fast it boots, Solaris is not meant to be rebooted constantly as Windows, it's meant to work.
"Even if I had a fab plant I wouldn't be burning SPARC as that seems to be a sure way to burn your company. "
Typical Matt response, avoid the question.
You said there was nothing open about OpenSPARC, and were proven wrong. So you answer with something completely unrelated. Be honest and admit you are wrong.
The fact is, there is no other architecture more open than SPARC/Solaris. SPARC International is the organization behind the architecture and it was founded nearly two decades ago, and keeps the architecture fully open and non proprietary, licensing the "SPARC" trademark (much like the "UNIX" trademark's case) to the interested parties, like Sun, Fujitsu and others.
Not only that, Sun has released it's SPARC v9 implementation (OpenSPARC T1 and T2) as open source, mostly under the GPL and there are other open source implementations, such a LEON (SPARC v8).
On top of that, Solaris is also open source in the form of OpenSolaris, with which you can take full advantage of the SPARC architecture with no strings attached... or you could go for the supported linux distros, such as Debian, WindRiver Linux and others... or if you are a BSD person, you can go with FreeBSD, OpenBSD or NetBSD... it's up to you.
Exactly were is it proprietary??
AIX, HP-UX, Power, Itanium and x86/x64 do not match up to this level of openness. All of those are fully proprietary architectures and systems where no standardization body exists (unlike SPARC international) and tightly controlled by their owners.
Matt, if you are going to reply, please do so within the context of the information contained in my post and not some random thought on how much you hate Sun and anything related to it.
This means that even after IBM and HP supposedly were savaging Sun's customers, customers didn't want to buy from Sun until after the acquisition and the whole economical turmoil, Sun still sells more RISC than the rest? (even if it was less than the previous period)
That should tell you something TPM, imagine what can Oracle do with SPARC and Solaris now that they own it. x64 systems are good up to a point. Talk about critical systems and RAS and you can forget about x64.
With these software and SpringSource's Hyperic, VMware can now manage and monitor both hardware and software. Nice move by EMC, leaving the software to the software company, this will be nice.
Compare it to Oracle's Enterprise Manager + Sun Ops Center, HP's Insight + Microsoft's System Center and you get a trend... and the motivation behind EMC's move.
Now, my question is, how far down the line can VMware continue to be agnostic?
Sorry, but looks like you didn't understand the plan on x64.
Oracle will continue to invest heavily on UltraSPARC, SPARC64 (at least until they can go solo with UltraSPARC) and x64 in a particular case. Clustered x64. Like Exadata and the other soon-to-come Oracle appliances.
Oracle won't target volume markets.
For more information, watch the webcast video and presentations.
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