Re: Trading standards need to get involved...
Why worry about the quality of the meat slurry, the country voted no to EU food standards, back to British slops for us all...
2057 posts • joined 19 Jun 2009
Why worry about the quality of the meat slurry, the country voted no to EU food standards, back to British slops for us all...
It turned suspicious quite a while back a along with a dramatic drop in quality (performance, bugs, bloat & constant feature churn). Would have replaced it earlier but none of the alternatives appealed to me. When Firefox finally started being useable a couple of years back Dolphin got sidelined then dumped.
@Terry 6: next time you meet him in a car park mention 'workfare'. The last incarnation scrapped in Nov2015 but easily resurrected by a brexit friendly gov wanting to please the brexit voting farmers.
"Quite honestly I don't see why so many reg commentators are pro remain?"
It's the contrast in exposure between professionals working with people across the planet and factory/office/shop workers getting drunk in Spanish tourist ghettos for a couple of weeks a year. Creates a more cosmopolitan view of the world.
That and not sharing the delusion our local chisellers are any more honest than anyone else.
It remain won we would still have the xenophobe minority causing trouble, the leavers demanding a re-run and continue to have government after government talk about reforming the EU while blocking actual reform at every opportunity.
A smaller disaster but once such a polarised referendum was called only an overwhelming margin would minimise the damage. It's a real pity there was no 3rd option: for a deadline on genuine reform before a 2nd referendum, something that would make both the UK and EU leaders take the issue seriously and shift power away from both of them to us. Something no UK politician would ever allow to happen.
"unless we view all the governments of the last 80 years as somehow illegitimate"
You're assuming we don't think that.
I've never voted for a winning candidate in a UK election and first past the post means I might as well never have voted. I certainly haven't felt represented by the winners, even the coalition simply served to stop some of the madness, not do good.
I'll say it again: this will confirm that brexit is performed in a legal manner and reduce (not prevent) the inevitable legal challenges later. Where real reporters dealt with this, it was made clear they don't expect to stop brexit, just make sure it's done properly.
This is about removing uncertainty, which damages business, the country and it's people - native and migrant. The same reason I want the clueless fuckwits to stop delaying and finish this almighty fuckup quickly, before the enboldened xenophobes turn even nastier.
I remember what this country was like in the 70's and I don't want those attitudes back.
It's as if no one told them sovereignty is something they only borrow for 1 day every 5 years, then it's snatched back in exchange for a few promises our rulers will selectively fulfil.
The de minimis bit of control those in power needed to share to stay there. Us plebs are supposed to be satisfied with the illusion, after all it's more than most of us had for the last couple of thousand years.
@Dan 55: "Cameron should have had a contingency plan given that he called the referendum"
...but he did and unlike Farage he implemented it immediately. That it's not the plan leavers wanted is not something I'm going to lose sleep over.
"It appears that the effort is not really aiming to find the proper way to do it, but an effort to override the vote of the 52% of those who turned out for the referendum."
Alternately this is the only way to stop both sides bitching endlessly that the notification wasn't legal when no one gets exactly what they want. Business wants certainty, even the certainty that the result isn't what they hoped for.
@Barely registers:"we're the ones currently in the bait box"
The English are in a hard spot as well, with an unknown number of leave voters unwilling to compromise on migration, likely to explode if they don't get what they think they were offered.
From the last couple of weeks listening to acquaintances and eavesdropping on strangers in unguarded moments, there are more than enough to worry about. The most extreme sample was not caring if everything else was a lie, as long as the migrants went home, followed by blind repetition of the 'take back control' mantra.
One of the eastern european seasonal farm workers put it nicely, he can go home but he felt sorry for the English with no where else to go.
The problem is Article 50 explicitly requires notification to be in line with the leaving states existing law and process. That strongly suggests it does not override the existing 1972 legislation.
For the record: I would much prefer legal action was aimed at forcing immediate issuance of article 50 notification. The prospect of UK politicians playing chicken with the EU for as long as they can get away with is good for no one.
We elect MPs because we hope they will form a Government that does know better than us
We use representative democracy because:
1: naked democracy is dangerous: prone to persecuting minorities, making decisions that can't be easily undone, too easily hijacked by emotion rather than facts
2: it's inefficient
We've stopped at a system that should be more efficient (but looking at the chancers infesting it might not be). More importantly, done right it provides the essential pauses before making damaging bad choices. Time to think, time to find facts, time to talk people down.
Except our democracy has been captured by the party system, where often the only break on madness is convoluted legislative process injecting some delay. Where politicians have decided to be leaders instead of representatives. Where the voters can be manipulated and lied to at will.
When they called for naked democratic voting they abandoned their purpose of moderating the madness. The only possible argument for letting these c**ts interfere is that they chose to interfere so monstrously in the voting. That's a justification for sacking the lot of them, possibly disbarring them from any public service, not an excuse to give them more power.
Farage might be one of the horses...
Far from certain 'sanity' is here. We've pulled one leg back into the frying pan with the self serving Boris temporarily sidelined but there's no way to please all the brexit voters. There's too large a gap between those that just wanted a 'better deal' and those that want completely out at any cost.
"Is there an agreed method by which we get access to the single market without all the conditions attached?"
43years trying to opt out of obligations by the UK is pretty good proof there's no way to pick and choose what you want apart from the big things like the Euro (and that window is gone).
Article 50 is a remarkably simple document with one obvious omission: it guarantees at least 2 years negotiation by the EU but negotiation in good faith is only implied, not specified.
When Boris is finally compelled by an angry electorate to deliver on brexit, the moment he stops negotiating in good faith there's nothing to compel the EU to show it either. And given the history of resisting the separation of benefits from obligations when dealing in or with the EU, there's not an honest court on the planet that would think refusing that was bad faith anyway.
Boris, Gove, whoever takes the poisoned chalice has a lot of explaining to do. And the "TakeBackControl" voters he'll be explaining it to aren't ones I'd want to piss off, as various migrants are sadly discovering today.
the last thing we'd want him to do is try and intervene in a plunging market.
I thought we were just going to watch the bank of england piss away £250bil failing to prop up the economy this time?
"The vote was Leave, now we have to make it work."
No. You have to make it happen. Until then leavers are 'having their cake and eating it', you wanted to leave, start pressing the clowns in westminster to make it happen NOW.
The leave voters I talked to after the result voted to leave, not to get a better deal. The leave campaign targeted them, time to grow some balls and accept the consequences.
What's pathetic is the sight of brexiteer reporter failing to report:
1: the petition was up BEFORE the referendum
2: it was put up by a leaver frightened the vote was going the wrong way!
The only meaningful poll is one to force immediate issuing of article 50 notification before the scoundrels can manipulate the situation into something worse.
In a few years time there may be no one prepared to pick the crops.
"Can we keep the pressure on though by signing this:-
I doubt it. What we need is a gov petition to force immediate notification under article 50. Feet to the fire time, find out what plan the Eton crew had for self benefit. Though it looks very like the plan actually went wrong and they weren't all expecting to have to deal with brexit.
The alternative is Johnson,Gove and co spend the next 3 years pretending the EU is blocking them (and the voters will fall for it again) then, if they aren't offered improbable and unbelievable terms to stay (not happening) they'll have timed it to steal the 2020 election. Before the public feel any real pain from brexit :(
Cynical? I find you can never be too cynical when politicians are involved.
"Or piss off and take your taxes to somewhere else"
Tempting for those of us able to retain EU citizenship. Not really interested in funding Boris' next bleach job.
@Steve 114 you haven't heard it because they haven't told the uk it's leaving. Yet. But we weren't invited to this week's meeting...
"What we need is a free trade agreement, no tariffs with any EEA member, and freedom of movement for work"
Unlikely to be an option. Talking to drunken brexiters (ordinary working people not Eton trained profiteers) they predominantly wanted borders closed and specifically wanted to stop EU workers coming here. So focused on it that being told lies "didn't matter" and the suggestion they might also have been lied to about that, just brought blank expressions.
I'm almost looking forward to how Boris and his merry crew of pirates talk their way out of this one when the working brexit voters notice the borders not slamming shut and no one being sent home.
Elites pushing their personal agenda is how we got into this mess and they're still there nicely set up to enrich themselves at our expense. I rarely agree with politician but Cameron was right about"Boris does what's good for Boris"
I try not to pass a Polish delicatessen without going in...
Democracy assumes an informed electorate. Informed before voting, so yes, plenty of absolute fuckwits who realised what they are too late.
We ended up with a grossly misinformed electorate unwilling or unable to apply any level of critical thinking to the bullshit being peddled. Hardly surprising with people making a profession of bullshitting them.
It's what you get when almost everyone involved tells lies but one side had a 30yr head start doing it.
The only thing I've got used to is very occasionally having the worst excesses my gov would like to commit blocked. Getting to vote every 5 years for the least offensive bag of policies on offer followed by 3 years of doing whatever they like gives far too much opportunity for mischief.
UK voters also need to get smart enough to stop electing governments that equate 'fixing/reforming the EU' with grabbing power back for parliament. I don't remember a single gov since we joined with any genuine interest in fixing problems. The idea of making the EU more democratic makes for great rabble rousing sound bites but get's blocked at every chance, making it accountable to the voters is a distant second to retaining closed door influence by ministers and civil servants.
Want to complain about our relationship with the EU? Elect better UK politicians and kick out the self serving bottom feeders we keep electing.
Wow. A gap in my knowledge filled: reform = opting out of things you don't like.
Now I also know why so little self serving UK 'reform' has been successful ;)
It's only cocoa butter in good chocolate. Which leaves me wondering why makers of nasty mockulate concoctions like a Mars bar would ever want to swap cheap vegetable fats for expensive cocoa solids. After all they've already swapped expensive cocoa butter for cheap crap.
If a targeted advert isn't seen in a forest of adblocking, does it have any impact? And how long will the advertiser continue to pay for that useless information?
[no comment on actually protecting privacy implied, though I agree it's a right PIA everywhere and with everyone]
all-knowing EU politicians some we vote for directly, some unelected but sent by the crooks we elect to Westminster to do their undemocratic bidding!
More interesting is the constant flip-flop between wicked not-British polticians & faceless eurocrats, depending on the needs of the story being concocted. Personally I don't see much difference between our MP's and civil service in Westminster doing whatever they fscking well want as soon as their despicable election promises are done with and the EU equivalents. At least our wannabe tyrants have to reach some sort of consensus when they go to the EU, instead of taking turns to ruin the country in opposing ways.
A pox on them all, they're working for themselves, not us.
I don't believe Fortran defines pointers at the low level C does so there's more freedom to modify Fortran. Ç is little more than high level assembler and deliberately so, that's why C++ exists.
I'll let you in on a secret: system components, OSes and whatever you think'language environments' means also need bounds checks. They deal with unpredictable client requests like any app even if written by super coders magically able to make their own code 100% deterministic and somehow not needing checks. Even god like coders make mistakes anyway.
Thinking like that keeps security researchers employed.
If the thing I read yesterday is true, Norway pays 90% per person of what the UK does, making 'little' = 10%. Except we get handed back nearly half that money and I rather doubt Norway get EU subsidies or rebates.
So the Norway deal appears to give them EU regulations, they're Schengen anyway so free movement is neutral, they probably pay more than we do & have no influence from that payment. Sounds like a pretty poor deal, a high price to pay for letting local incompetent or dishonest politicians & civil servants make a few decisions some other crooked and incompetent ones makes now.
Farrage&co of course hope brexit has them supping closer to the trough and getting a good deal for the country is the last thing on their minds.
If patent trolling is a problem then deal with it directly, rather than by keeping the currently horrendously complicated system as is.
And that's the heart of Brexit: all problems are solved by running away and sticking your head in the sand. Quite how that avoids a global issue like patent abuse is a mystery but it's just got to be easier than fixing the real problem. Hasn't it?
as long as we reduce the powers of the national governments
I see this as the biggest problem with Europe, govs that talk big about reform but sit on their hands if there's the slightest chance it might steal any of their power.
Interesting that one prominent bit of ongoing vaping research is comparing the lethality on cell cultures of the different flavours, in vaped mixes. A startling wide range of lethality but ALL of them kill cells. Does have the useful side effect of some flavours killing lung infections, another poison with medical uses!
So far I've been lucky, the 1 vaper I know seems to use an inoffensive flavour, sadly that's no guarantee it's a safer one though.
Vaping: almost certainly safer for smokers (but the research hasn't been done yet) but safer!=safe and the evidence is mounting it's at least an irritant, not something to do if you're not a quitting smoker.
The same SoC currently powering xb1 with twice the rendering power. Achievable by doubling the gpu core count, doubling clocks or some combination would be better because the current Jaguar cpu is utter shite and needs a clock boost.
However: yes, it will be VR capable, at some low screen resolution. 4k gaming is just fiction. The current xb1 struggles with 1080p @60Hz with few games achieving it. AMDs shiny RX 480 claims 5tflops but only aims for 1440p gaming. The scorpio numbers don't make sense unless you like juddering 30fps play.
Microsoft announced their bid to make win10 the natural home of VR about 2 weeks back (too early, to little sleep to remember what they called it) and they definitely plan on multiple device support. It wouldn't be a surprise if that extends to xbox. Does rely on capturing developer support for their VR framework though and Facebook might have something to say about that after slapping aggressive drm on Occulus.
Don't forget to blame the OEM's, carriers and regulators. Google has never had enough power to force any of them to provide product support. They all learned from Apple that conceding any control at all was bad and unlike Apple, Googles Nexus line didn't grab enough market share to frighten any of them.
Endless API churn in the kernel it's built on doesn't help either, once the manufacturer stops updating their binary driver blobs you're usually locked into that release of Android. That's something Goggle should have controlled and had the power to do.
There's plenty of blame to go around.
No no no no
No need to drive home, pasties are perfect street food. No need to drive home.
The designation includes quality factors, so in fact we're supposed to end up with only 1 protected. Even with the seemingly low threshold to qualify as a Cornish Pasty there doesn't seem to be a rush of meat slurry packagers moving to Cornwall to take advantage (or Bulgarians setting up factories) and case 2 isn't an issue.
Yes, but the thought that some factory in Birmingham could start churning out faux Cornish Pasty's should worry you. Because I don't remember our government lifting a finger to protect any foods before joining the EU.
Yes, merkins talk good freedom but very few seem to work out what it means and how to do it.
Is it faster than a D-wave?
...while not "pointing" at any actual expert reports (or that the sources for that fairy tale aren't from experts in PV either). Panels produced in 2004 were estimated to have 1.7-2.7 year energy payback in S Europe - ~5 yr in the UK. Since then efficiency has improved a lot and manufacturing efficiency has improved.
The downside is shifting production to China has pushed up CO2 production, through dirty coal generation and lax manufacturing standards. Even there the numbers don't support the 'story' and they're getting better as China imposes regulation on production. I'm aware that 'regulation' is a red mist word to Andrew ;)
It's another urban myth that won't die because some desperately need to justify their position.
If you pay attention while driving through England (much easier on public transport) you'll quickly notice just how few pv and wind installations there are. Wind is strongly held back by nimbyism so even though i don't believe we're out of good sites, we're out of good sites with much chance of approval.
In one of the last Lewis rants he dismissed pv for only supplying 5% of demand. At the time I started looking for pv installs in my part of the uk and it was noticeably less than 5% of available sites.
PV works so well in Germany simply because they installed more. More efficiency would be nice but it's not needed in our conditions, more panels and infrastructure to support them are what's missing. Chinese mass use is doing more for pv by reducing prices than our government or industry ever did.
Hence the switch to mugging your pc instead of conning it into Win10 downgrades. Won't be surprised if new ransomware strikes before the 1bil deadline and the unlock solution is Win10...
App updates is a common vector for malware, advertising or just breaking the apps. Forced app updates is unacceptable and another money sink if they try to verify each one.
Someone didn't really think this through.
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