Re: Good grief.
I'm definitely going to do what's best for my country. Your country I've given up on.
2049 posts • joined 19 Jun 2009
I'm definitely going to do what's best for my country. Your country I've given up on.
"we're in the EU for a minimum of 2 years"
Not strictly true. We're guaranteed at least 2 years of negotiation time but there's nothing saying we can't complete and leave faster. Unlikely but not forbidden. Likewise the 3 brexiteers could, in some parallel universe, not piss off the EU so badly they refuse an extension on those 2 years.
We have Boris in just the right place to ensure a hard 2 year limit applies, now to find some way to stop the delaying and watch the clowns panic.
There was an interview with German car companies and ones in the car part supply chain around vote time. The problems even small disruptions in delivery cause in a JIT industry were detailed, along with the point that no mass production car factory can build cars without working JIT supply lines. They also seemed resigned to losing exports to the UK, including component supply.
The brexiteers favourite 'they'll be hurt more than us' overlooks that supply chain dependency. Unless they can magically negotiate much better terms for component supplies over assembled cars, those UK car factories are going to be severely disrupted as EU export losses/problems hit their production. Fixable but not necessarily before the foreign owners of those factories have moved somewhere more efficient.
That particular big stick brexiteers think they can frighten Gernam car industry with doesn't look all that frightening.
The reason Norway gave was not wanting to add a massively larger economy to a club of small nations. Whatever reasons you think any EFTA member would have for wanting the UK, not letting them in now means no need to 'take back control' some time in the future if/when the UK starts bullying the others.
Ah, the very amateur attempts at misdirection coming thick and fast.
In real life it's completely possible for Carney & the BOE to identify problems with the EU and point out leaving would be even worse than those problems, they aren't opposites and there's no U-turn on advice. Given the choice of believing professional politicians (AKA liars and opportunists), amateurs like Farage & Gove (too stupid to know if they're lying, even sleazier opportunists) or a bunch of independent of politicking economists, I'm going with the experts (even though it's more witchcraft than science).
And all those predictions of doom you claim haven't come true. There's a missing 'yet' in that because you haven't left yet, haven't even started to leave. And are carefully ignoring any sign that things are starting to unravel while everyone waits for you to grow balls and leave.
If England and Wales don't leave Europe the arguing will carry on for ever. It will only end when brexit is tried and the results of it known. You need to be gone and soon.
Once Brexit is executed then things may be able to go back to normal
With one little problem, it will require Britain to accept some form of free movement and it's hard to believe Europe will accept a highly diluted version. Collaborative projects don't make much sense if scientists can't freely travel and work.
...but any uk gov that does that will have some hard explaining to 52% of the population. Given the way foreigners are already being made unwelcome by the rabid minority brexit empowered we may never get back to normal, if scientists simply don't want to risk coming here.
So much concentrated cluelessness. The 'unelected' are the ones asking for funding who noticed the uk fuckwits handling brexit are deliberately doing nothing to guarantee uk participation will continue. They've made the sane choice to avoid risk until the uk stops using them as a negotiating chip. FFS the uk refuses to even guarantee EU citizens in these collaborations can work in the uk, what kind of fool would sign up for that?
Brexiters would do well to remember how eager most governments are to grease the wheels of immigration for scientists. Play nice now or have your whining ignored when your scientists leave.
What's startling is how many refuse to upgrade Win8/8.1 to 10. Microsoft have built a reputation for shovelling shit strong enough people choose a known POS over risking shit-as-a-service evermore!
...by ensuring settings and registry wiping clean installs every few updates. Looks like stage 2 has kicked off, wipe other partitions to encourage use of the ms store for easier app recovery.
Mine the one taking a differential drive image every night.
Used to switch to the US layout on my GB machine at random until i realised you need to change both locale and input settings. Buggy pos
Really, if you're complaining about getting too much email to use the Hub, you're doing a pretty pathetic job of managing your communications.
...if you're managing your comms, regardless of high or low volume, what does the hub do for you...
Tried a small pile of different aggregaters over the years, some preinstalled and deeply integrated, some apps less dug in and like Phil, never found any benefit to it. I don't get a flood of stuff on my phone but can't imagine how combining multiple floods would help. Leaving it segregated in it's separate channels leaves it more manageable for me. There are times I care, times I just clear the notifications and those times change and are different for each channel.
Firmly in the 'no, it won't improve my phone' camp.
I wonder how much they noticed Google getting away with totally abstract line shapes in Android.
Or more accurately Google showing Microsoft levels of ignoring users and just doing it, a strange circle of Google stealing Microsofts 'ignore users' policy and Microsoft stealing it back.
...or a nod to WinPhones truncated text infested UI?
(To be fair Classic Menu has truncated 15 of 17 pinned app names, but the 9 or 10 chars it's showing does the job)
Right-click desktop, Personalize, Start, turn off Occasionally
What makes you think that will continue to work? If the anniversary update doesn't disable the option it's just a matter of time till it is 'updated' away.
@Jules 1: I think you underestimate the constitutional tarpit the Torys are in.
They got into power on the back of an election promise for a referendum. There's no credible interpretation where that doesn't also imply an election promise to implement the result. Not if they ever want to be believed in an election campaign again. If they stay in power they have to brexit.
But they can't just call another election, that would require a vote of no confidence, with an absolute majority of tory MPs that would be seen as dishonest and again wreck their future chances. Possibly enrage the leavers enough to give us a UKIP government and civil war shortly after. They can't quit before implementing brexit.
So that leaves delay. Boris thought he could get away with it, but Boris was panicking after unexpectedly 'winning', his plan to grab the 2020 election set a timescale dependent on losing and he isn't quick enough to come up with a better one.
Europe isn't going to quietly wait while the UK stalls. EU politicians and eurocrats have made it clear they expect the UK to leave, none showing any sign they think it can be undone. Anyone that thinks unnecessary delay has any bargaining value is mistaken. The EU know the UK gov must leave, they understood the constitutional implications right from the start. The UK is negotiating from a position of weakness and really shouldn't be annoying anyone right now.
The quicker this happens the sooner the UK mess can be fixed, one way or another. Pretty sure England & Wales will not regain entry during my lifetime, whatever a future gov or electorate wants.
Until the sick man of Europe stops delaying and actually fucks off out of the EU 'dealing with it' can't begin.
I mean real work, like growing and manufactir8ing food
The only likely EU concession on the 4 freedoms could be services, not including them (and I believe the brexiteers current favourite Canada agreement excludes them). One way I suppose to finally establish if the finance service industry is propping up the physical manufacturing we don't really do any longer - at least not with UK owned companies.
We know the EU is doomed as it is.
Wasn't that part of the brexiteer mantra, where we lead lots of european countries are eager to follow. I wonder if the relative quiet on that has anything to do with the massive polling swing from leave to remain in Denmark, after they saw the brexit result? Reality often has that effect on wishful thinking.
Far from doomed, with UK obstruction removed and the brexit nudge of fear the EU can finally start on genuine reform. Not the UK version where 'reform = pay less, opt out more' but never 'do things better and be more democratic'.
still get their cheap foreign workers
Inciting the mob of xenophobe little englanders with immigration control BS was easy. Putting them back in their closets when reality smacks hard against delivery, good luck with that. It's been a while since we last had serious sustained rioting here but I think they remember how to do it.
Putting them on workfare could solve both problems, knackered slave labour and no need for immigrants to take away their excuse. Which will be doubly useful with an unstaffed NHS to patch them up.
I remember buying a smart VCR with teletext programme guide programming. And the half day it took to decide it was quicker and easier just entering the time manually! When plus codes turned up programming got a lot easier and the machine was quite good at noticing time changes by itself, something the teletext version was supposed to do but never quite got right.
Since fixed line internet is normally shared by entire households it's no surprise there are less of them per human than a 1/device mobile connection.
I'm frightened to think how much the data I use would cost on mobile, only cheaper for many of us if you're a light user.. The ITU are reminding us even broadband users typically use very little data. Especially the ones relying on BT... ;)
What about the bargaining stage?
Any time you want to sign A50 it can begin ;)
Some of us are well past acceptance and in “put on the popcorn“ mode. So much to wait for like the moment the electors realise the bloody nose they gave elites is mostly spray from stabbing their own nuts , they just shuffled the same corrupt pack of elite hyenas.
...and of course watching May destroy Boris and his pirate brexiteers will be irresistible.
Looks like we're all wrong, WP is alive,well and positively thriving.
"locate and negotiate the best rate"
Suddenly it's more clear why none of the energy companies have compatible meters. Wouldn't want the suckers actually getting any benefit.
If enough of us switched supplier every year and the meters aren't transferable, I wonder if this is the first real example of an energy saving product that never covers it's own manufacturing costs?
The engineers might stay, the profits won't. It's going to be near impossible to stop a foreign owned, purely IP licensing business deciding where it feels like paying even minimal amounts of tax. Just needs the sales staff to be somewhere else.
use 3 or 4 different OS families in a day without any problems
This was one of the arguments the fanbois used to conspicuously run away from disputing when Microsoft started to merge WP with desktop Windows. Talking up the benefits of the same UI everywhere with Win8, same OS for 10 convinced no one.
It remains a terrible idea in many use cases for almost all users. A solution for Microsofts problems, not their users.
Traditionally to be convicted of abusing a monopoly you have to have a monopoly. Apple tried very hard to have one on dick lawsuits but didn't quite manage it, got nowhere near on hard or software. Still acting a bit dickish though...
if it does have that expertise
Not if but while the UK has the experts, science is done by people not institutions, a great many of them foreign. ATM the UK has refused to give any enforceable guarantee on their status and done nothing at all to suppress the frothing europhobe mob Boris,Farage and the press barons incited.
For the ROW it's a time for caution dealing with little Britain, not carrying on hoping for the best while the brexiters delay and try to game brexit. Boris needs to be in Brussels today hand delivering A50 notification, he's only fit to be a messenger boy.
Otoh I understand that quite a few French fisheryfolk are quite nervous.
I suspect they'll be less nervous than you think since most uk fishermen sold their licences, quotas and boats long ago. That's going to be a mess to untangle even if enough people can be persuaded to risk their lives at sea again.
And your reply ignores that the UK had already had its application rejected enough years before getting in for the voters to veto it in this perverse mockery of democracy if they actually objected.
You can argue the thing morphed after joining, that the serially useless governments ignored electors like they ALWAYS DO. Don't pretend they were tricked into joining. Especially not to those of us that were there at the time.
You have an astonishingly amnesiac memory of UK government support for basic science. Gove epitomised it by openly rejecting 'experts', the only service the worthless cnut has offered. Left to any of the last 43 years governments we'd now be experts at better ways to whittle spoons and the best way to wrap fancy paper around imported technology.
Some of what seems to be happening is individual researchers are either refusing to come here OR planning to leave, based on the hostile reactions now common from xenophobes. That's the consequence of 'leave' recruiting them to their campaign, it was a choice made by cynical scum afraid they might lose otherwise.
Since part of the purpose of EU grants is to encourage collaboration across Europe, if the people doing the collaboration refuse, there's not much point handing out the grants to the UK institutions. Ultimately the money follows the people and England is a pretty frightening place right now.
@imanidiot: If brexit doesn't happen - for real not some half assed smoke&mirrors that fools only politicians - your country will have bigger problems to worry about than science funding or EU staff feeling intimidated. And I mean from your own voters. What the EU chooses to do if you try delaying will look insignificant in comparison.
@Lars: an actually informed population will require undoing 30+ years of press bias and outright lies (mostly thanks to BJ finding it more fun than actual reporting). Never going to happen and we'd need to reform our demockeracy, both in parliament and by hanging enough press barons, first.
QR could always be poisoned, that's why every reader I've used shows the data before letting the user decide what to do. Making it easier is of course enough to get more people choosing stupid anyway.
Same here. What's changed is rarely feeling any interest in scanning them and almost never bothering to pull the phone to do it even on those rare occasions. Seems like the novelty was all that was driving them. I now see NFC pads stuck on bus shelters, advertising boards etc. Intriguing the first few times but the novelty didn't last long enough to actually try it at all.
Next time try marking randomly chosen images as porn when they ask. See how long the filters last if everyone mistrains them.
How do we know she hasn't called Boris?
I believe tv appearance fees are considerably lower than the bung on offer for propaganda passed of as opinion in the printed sheets. A politician cutting off a nice earner and bullshit opportunity? Never going to happen.
Why worry about the quality of the meat slurry, the country voted no to EU food standards, back to British slops for us all...
It turned suspicious quite a while back a along with a dramatic drop in quality (performance, bugs, bloat & constant feature churn). Would have replaced it earlier but none of the alternatives appealed to me. When Firefox finally started being useable a couple of years back Dolphin got sidelined then dumped.
@Terry 6: next time you meet him in a car park mention 'workfare'. The last incarnation scrapped in Nov2015 but easily resurrected by a brexit friendly gov wanting to please the brexit voting farmers.
"Quite honestly I don't see why so many reg commentators are pro remain?"
It's the contrast in exposure between professionals working with people across the planet and factory/office/shop workers getting drunk in Spanish tourist ghettos for a couple of weeks a year. Creates a more cosmopolitan view of the world.
That and not sharing the delusion our local chisellers are any more honest than anyone else.
It remain won we would still have the xenophobe minority causing trouble, the leavers demanding a re-run and continue to have government after government talk about reforming the EU while blocking actual reform at every opportunity.
A smaller disaster but once such a polarised referendum was called only an overwhelming margin would minimise the damage. It's a real pity there was no 3rd option: for a deadline on genuine reform before a 2nd referendum, something that would make both the UK and EU leaders take the issue seriously and shift power away from both of them to us. Something no UK politician would ever allow to happen.
"unless we view all the governments of the last 80 years as somehow illegitimate"
You're assuming we don't think that.
I've never voted for a winning candidate in a UK election and first past the post means I might as well never have voted. I certainly haven't felt represented by the winners, even the coalition simply served to stop some of the madness, not do good.
I'll say it again: this will confirm that brexit is performed in a legal manner and reduce (not prevent) the inevitable legal challenges later. Where real reporters dealt with this, it was made clear they don't expect to stop brexit, just make sure it's done properly.
This is about removing uncertainty, which damages business, the country and it's people - native and migrant. The same reason I want the clueless fuckwits to stop delaying and finish this almighty fuckup quickly, before the enboldened xenophobes turn even nastier.
I remember what this country was like in the 70's and I don't want those attitudes back.
It's as if no one told them sovereignty is something they only borrow for 1 day every 5 years, then it's snatched back in exchange for a few promises our rulers will selectively fulfil.
The de minimis bit of control those in power needed to share to stay there. Us plebs are supposed to be satisfied with the illusion, after all it's more than most of us had for the last couple of thousand years.
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