* Posts by Tom 13

7611 posts • joined 10 Jun 2009

Irish deputy PM: You want more tax from Apple? Your problem, not ours

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Re: Is this the

The problem you socialist Europeans have is the same one our Socialist Democrats have on this side of the pond: You assume the expenses the taxes are supposed to support are all legitimate and required instead of trying to live within your revenue budget. If there's no money available, there shouldn't be a program for it.

Yes, that will mean making tough choices. Man up and deal with it.

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Re: IP licenses should be taxed in the country where the IP is used

So in the case of the Apple iPhone, would that be China, Singapore, Indonesia, Ireland, or the US?

What exactly defines "where it is used"?

I'm sure it sounds simple in your head, but when you start examining it with a rules lawyer who is trying to break the system, you'll find problems.

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Re: "revenue neutral"

I've never seen a "revenue neutral" tax change in my life. Collected taxes either go up or down after the change, just depending on how envy filled the alleged "revenue neutral" changes were.

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Re: Rules, laws and more rules.

Minor nits

1) They can and probably did pay lobbyists for tweaks to some of the laws. Still, the governments could have said No so your primary point still stands.

2) It isn't so much the 30% tax rate (even though I think that's too high). The problem stateside is that our tax laws want to claim that 30% AFTER they've paid whatever the prevailing rate is in the foreign country. So taking the UK numbers given above Apple would pay 35% and then another 30% after that. Then you pay it out as dividends and the shareholder pays another 25-50%. Which leaves somewhere between 26% and 40% of the original raw profit actually making it back to the person who fronted the money in the first place. So if we assume the company has an ROI of 30% on their raw profits, you are making between 7.8% and 12% on your investment. Is that really enough for a high risk investment?

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Re: Am i turning into a pinko, liberal, socialist, commie dupe?

collective approach so that'll be collectivist and a check.

United Nations, and check.

fair share.. claimed moral superiority without proof of same, check.


Somethings stil not right we've got an error indicator light still on...


Ah-hah! Found it!

Am i turning into a pinko, liberal, socialist, commie dupe?

There we go all fixed up and the answer is YES.

Cook: Apple has 'no current plan' to pull profits out of Ireland

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Re: And why arent Google, MS, Amazon and others being called in front of the Senate?


While all of them have similar licenses to print money, none of the rest have been so foolish as to keep so much of it around the safehouse in cash and bearer bonds.

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Re: Sir

The problem, sir, with your post, is that having trawled these forums for so long, and found entirely too many fools amongst the posters, I am unsure whether that is sarcasm or you are one of the fools.

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Re: Ever so carefully cultivated ...

Lies, half-truths and distortions.

You start off okay on the size of the code but jump the shark before you get out of the first paragraph. It's not simply corporate contributors. Much of the sleaze comes from your friend Soros. Others comes from ACORN and the abortion mill known as Planned Parenthood.

There certainly are single elected officials who would love to reform the code and do away with it. Paul Rand is one (I think he's wet behind the ears with his Libertarianism, but I give credit where it is due). His dad would have as well (even if the was a freaking loon on just about everything else except getting rid of The Fed). The problem it that it is at most a handful who do, and (given that screed) I'll bet you would never vote for any of them who are.

It's common knowledge that you can't actually get two IRS agents to agree on the amount of tax DUE from a moderately complex return. My favorite is that every year Forbes sends out a few model tax returns to 12 or 14 accounting companies and asks them to calculate the taxes due. Very, very rarely do even two of them match.

The IRS scrutiny also can't fall upon the lower classes. Before you can fall under their scrutiny, you have to actually be PAYING taxes to the IRS, which apparently 47% of Americans no longer do.

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Not to mention the first time he's ever claimed to want to understand a law before he passed it.

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Re: They were told where to go.

And that's one of the reasons I'm glad me Pappy (grandpa) was Irish, God rest his soul. It's a gene he's passed along to everyone else in the family. I think my mother even got a transplant.

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@AC 21-May-2013 21:58 GMT

That's 10 days paid leave/vacation. 'Holidays' is an entirely different type of Leave and not included in Vacation. Varies between 2 (private usually retail, especially fast food) and 10 (those living of the public largess, ie government employees/contractors). Usually different than medical/sick leave (preferential tax treatment I believe), although some companies consolidate paid and sick into "unified" leave, which usually starts at 15 days per year. Rate of increase in availability of leave varies. Some start increasing it in as little as three years and typically max increases within 12 years of continuous employment.

James Bond inspires US bill to require smart guns for all

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Re: Doesn’t the NRA already outspend

Never let a fact get in the way of a good two minute hate.

Here are some more:

From 2001 to 2010 (latest data publicly available from the CDC [http://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/fatal_injury_reports.html]) the mean number of unintentional gun deaths for children (18 years and younger) is 126.6 per year, with a minimum of 96 and a maximum of 154. Drop out those old enough to drive a car (that is, those we deem of sufficient age and responsibility to run an equivalently dangerous device on a routine basis) and those numbers fall to 74.9, 58, and 88. Look at the 6 and under crowd since that was the id ten T's talking point and the numbers are 22.9, 8, and 30.

So I suppose he did get one thing inadvertently right; the actual numbers aren't as low as I expected, they are lower.

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Re: There are no background checks if you buy from a gun show.

That's a flat out lie from people who want to confiscate guns. If you deal in guns and are required to do a background check as a normal part of your business, you HAVE to perform them at gun shows too. It's part of your FFLC and there is no 'gun show exception.'

The people who aren't required to run background checks at gun shows are the average Joe who carries a couple or one gun to the show that he wants to sell so he can get a different model. And guess what? He wouldn't have to run a background check if you did it at his house either.

Last time CO2 was this high, the world was underwater? No actually

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Re: Now we're cooking on gas!

Is that approved? I thought we needed to find live steam vents to comply with the AWG regs these days?

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Re: Is anyone else astonished that

I suppose I should be. But after finding out that their initial models hadn't even made rudimentary attempts to control for variations in solar luminosity, no I'm not.

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Re: happened during Hurricane Sandy again.

So you're claiming that AWG is immediately going to flood a full meter of water into Manhattan?

Cause I thought this was a gradual thing that would take 25 to 50 years at least before we start to see it. If it is gradual, then over time that stuff will get moved as part of normal maintenance routines. Assuming of course we don't continue to irrationally allow people to rebuild in existing flood plains.

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Re: majority of CO2 output in the future will come from countries

I think this is the bit that hacks me off the most about Warmists.

That full statement isn't actually true. If we really were committed to reducing CO2 levels, there are legitimate, legal ways to go about it. Each country could for example pass laws stating that good imported from other countries had to come from factories that met Standard X for carbon emissions or face import taxes calculated to be double or treble the cost of putting the mitigation in place. And you can require that the mitigation be monitored by government employees from the importing not exporting country.

Instead they make excuses for the major polluters to continue what they are doing. Sure there are tradeoffs. More pollution might mean more economic growth which could translate into fewer deaths from more easily controlled causes. It might even be immoral to choose CO2 reduction over killing humans. But it is a choice you could make.

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Re: Would this affect sea levels much?

Sea levels per se, no. But you are on the right track for an important correction since what they are using as a proxy is the high tide level. And that will be affected, although I'm not sure how much.

Another problem is knowing how the coastal shape has changed. There are parts of the New England coast with huge variations in sea level because a large amount of tide water is being forced into a narrow channel. Vary the channel width small amounts and you vary the tide height even more.

Look behind you, NetApp: Angry investor is coming for YOU

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Re: idea is to help a company survive and grow

No such idea is implied when a shareholder invests. If you want to invest that way, that's your choice. If I want to invest for the best rate of return and move my money elsewhere when a company isn't giving it to me, that's my choice.

Where I see a problem is that corporate raiders do exist, and of late too many of them have wound up in charge of investment funds where they have leveraged other shareholders who might not otherwise agree with their strategy. Or in the context of my opening paragraph, even if my investment strategy yields more dollars than yours does, I shouldn't be able to force you to adhere to my investment strategy.

Streaming music works for us, say US and UK indie labels

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Re: herding cats.

Even before you get to that point you have the problem that for most musicians, if they had any business sense to begin with, they wouldn't be musicians.

Nintendo throws flaming legal barrel at YouTubing fans

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Re: Copyright law is clear that each party retains its own copyrights in such cases

Not quite that cut and dried. For a number of years I was involved with an NPO that put on a major US anime convention. One of our staples was the fan video contest. The video parts, being snippets instead of a continuous segment were covered under sampling rulings. But our lawyers advised us that in order to protect ourselves we needed to license the music through the appropriate channels., because those parts were continuous. They were clearly composites to the end product. And music for video games is copyrighted in its own context.

Climate scientists agree: Humans cause global warming

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Re: Did you not read ANY of the seven independent investigations

The fox investigating murder at the hen house does not get to exonerate anyone.

Of course no academic has been sacked for dissenting on ACC. He left of his own accord after the Warmists turned down all his grant applications.

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Re: uninformed speculation on your part.

I guess you missed the "Geezer" part of the name.

I haven't met one yet who engages in uninformed speculation. It may be argumentative. It may be contentious. It may be biased. But it is never uninformed, because he's got years of personal observational data at hand.

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Re: I have to say this

Actually religion is by word of the resident diety(ies). Democracy is by consensus.

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@DG: Thanks, I missed that one:

95% of scientists didn't think that responding to this survey was very important.

Which means there's a serious self-selection bias in the opinion poll as well. No reputable pollster would sign off on one of those.

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Re: why, in statistical and scientific terms why those 97% of the 20,000 papers are inaccurate?

Question selection bias.

It's one of the things that makes opinion polling such a bitch to get right.

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Re: Doesn't make it so though...

Quite right.

What makes it so is that it is in fact the inspired word of God. I do however hope you correct the error of your ways before He explains it to you in such a way that you understand it.

None the less, for making a true statement, you got an Up vote.

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Re: So, if they can't replicate anything...

Maybe. Being replicable is just the most solid form of science, and it isn't actually the value of the science. The value is in it's predictive capabilities. Having deduced Kepler's Laws of Motion we can predict where an object in orbit will be found at a different time. Or, seeing a deviation from where something is supposed to be, find another object which we hadn't noticed before.

You should be able to test that predictive part of the models. But that's where the problems start. All of the models predict far greater warming than we've actually seen. And you can't actually look at models, only the inputs and outputs of the models. The rest is "proprietary intellectual property." Hell, even some of the data is "proprietary" or at least how they have calculated the inputs from the raw data is. There's big money involved in all of this. Here in the US it's large chunks of some of the budgets at NOAA whether at the weather service or the division working on environmental predictions. Beyond that there are commercial companies making big bucks from processing and packaging that data. Some are just repackaging the weather data, others make money telling farmers how to improve their crop yields. So anybody claiming they have no monetary interest in this is full of crap.

Some of the monetary interests need solid data - crop yields would be a big one here. Insurance companies are probably another. Even the weather service proper needs good data for short term predictions. If you get 7 out of 10 hurricane or flood warnings wrong, people won't take them seriously, so those bits need accuracy. Others, like what the some mean temperature is going to be 50 years from now? Not so much. There's plenty of time to correct that. And here's the rub: with 50 years to correct it, your local Congresscritter is likely to cut the budget for it because it doesn't affect his election chances next cycle. So if you want that budget money THIS budget cycle, you have to create an emergency on which he MUST act NOW. AWG is just that kind of emergency. And the professional unelected politicians who put together the budgets know that. Given a choice between two scientist, one of who believes in AWG and one of whom thinks it is a crock, they pull from the AWG believer to get the money. And thus the research becomes self-selecting.

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@David Hicks

Seriously? Yeah I would. When I found out that all the models assumed static output from the sun was the point at which my ire against Warmists was solidified. I was strongly leaning their way since I come from an astronomy background and KNOW how long your observational baselines need to be before you can start making the kinds of predictions they are, and what the error bars REALLY look like. The Warmists simply don't have them.

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Re: @fmaxwell

You don't have to be a science PhD to know the study is frelled before they ran the first search. By selecting the specific search terms they did for the article titles, they removed skeptical papers. You'd have to find neutral terms to search to find the skeptics. Frankly, at this point I'm not sure they exist because of how politicized Warmists have made the topic.

Tablet? Laptop? HP does the splits with Tegra-based SlateBook x2

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Re: but, but, but...

sales tax =/= VAT

For one thing, it is an explicit tax that the consumer sees up front whereas the VAT is hidden and can jacked to hell and back but the socialists get to blame corporations for price gouging.

Hey, Teflon Ballmer. Look, isn't it time? You know, time to quit?

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And at the same time they were killing off OS/2, they were killing Lotus, Quatro Pro, WordPerfect, and Harvard Graphics in the applications market.

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As far as most people are concerned,

there is no 4th place in the mobile market. It's first, second, third and then all the losers.

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Re: They are the ones holding PC development back

That's the nub of the question though isn't it? Is there something holding PC development back? Or have we, 30 years after the development of the embryonic home pc systems, reached a mature market?

Frankly, I'm in the mature market camp.

Who is the mystery sixth member of LulzSec?

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Re: I suspect the 6th member

Yes, to the first bit, no to the second.

Yes, seeing his cohorts in jail probably has caused him to wipe any pcs he might have been using for the activities. The thing is, while there is a sudden burst of caution at nearly being caught, after a while it tends to get replaced by the "I'm too smart to be caught" syndrome, which eventually leads to them being caught. Moreover, browsing everything from TOR (or similar) would be the sort of behavior that would attract attention from investigative agencies.

Hunt: I'll barcode sick Brits and rip up NHS's paper prescriptions

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This couldn't possibly be any more dangerous than

juggling 17 vials filled with nitroglycerin.

Sure, go for it.

Prankster 'Superhero' takes on robot traffic warden AND WINS

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Re: Dear God, man, how fast were you going?

Obviously not fast enough. Both cameras got him.

Dell's server, net bizzes do well, but PCs slammed as expected

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Re: Not sure I follow

Agree with your conclusions. I wouldn't say it's El Reg making the claim, more that they are reporting that others are making the claim. And if the company is headquartered in the US, that's going to be the case in a maturing market. The guys doing the trading on the exchanges mostly look to company growth to establish what's hot and what's not. If you're an old but profitable company in a mature market you typically fall into the Not category. If the markets were largely driven by reality, that would be an opportunity to make a tidy profit by buying against conventional wisdom on the old companies. But it seems to me that one of the unintended consequences of retirement account money market funds is that the emotional buyers who follow the what's hot and what's not memes are swamping the real market with their trading sprees.

Google 'DOES DO EVIL', thunders British politician

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Re: Tax on business is fair

I'm not defending Google. I'm outright telling you your definition of "fair" is immoral.

Corporations are people. Tax those people and you tax the corporation. Playing this "fair" game so that you can demonize corporations and then require the corporations to collect taxes from the people to whom you want to five other people's money is dishonest and immoral. Even if Google were sending checks to British government every month in the amount you think is "fair" they still wouldn't be paying the taxes. Their customers would, but not Google. Because corporations only know costs and revenue and everything else is derived from those two facts. A tax is just another cost. And if you're in business, you have to make a profit on all your costs, including collecting taxes on behalf of the government.

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Re: In this day and age

The advantage of being rich is that no matter how tightly tyrants try to tie the tax noose, you can usually avoid paying them. If they jack the sales tax up on your $100,000 yacht you don't have to buy it, or maybe you can buy it at your summer house in another country where there is no sales tax. If they jack up your income tax, you don't have to work.

Payment in shares is easy enough to deal with. If you haven't bought with money, it counts as income. Now if you are objecting to making money from dividends on shares you've paid for in cash, you can sod off.

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Re: @Mole5000

There's law and then there's the real world. If the political creatures pass a legal law repealing the law of gravity, you'd still be a damned fool to ignore it. Same thing goes for investing. And these days investing runs publicly traded companies. Which is why Dell the man is trying to take Dell the company private again. He recons he can rebuild and save the company in the long term, but it is impossible with publicly traded shares. Even if he were chartered out of Australia instead of the US.

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Re: down vote a link to a statement of fact?

because good little socialist minions never let a fact get in the way of a two minute hate.

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The real problem is that you've bought into the socialist demonization of corporations and expect to bleed them dry instead of rationally examining real-world problems and fixing it that way. I'm no fan of the progressive income tax or the privacy invasions that come with income taxes. I accept however that a flat income tax eliminates the issues you are ranting about. Regardless of whether the Google employees in London are marketing or selling they are undeniably being paid for a job in London. Tax their wages in London and you get the revenue.

What's that you say? No sane person would ever pay the income tax rate that would be required to support your government programs? Not my problem. Not Google's either. That problem lies in the evil you and the rest of the people who voted with you have created.

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Re: Google don't pay taxes.

Google pays it employees and stockholders more. Care homes and poor houses aren't needed. Kids not only get to eat, they get to pay for college. Ergo Google are not Evil!

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Re: high taxes would not be so high if people paid them

Seeking low taxes is a rational behavior. If Google were seeking to pay the HIGHEST taxes they could, I'd invest in another company. Same with Amazon. Pretty soon both would be broke. Just because you think it's the appropriate tax rate doesn't mean anybody let alone everybody else does. That's why there's supposed to be an objective legal standard by which compliance is measured. Yelling and screaming about it in public is just demagoguing it. I really would expect Brits to be more familiar with the inevitable outcome of the bread and circuses route than 'Merkins are.

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Re: An open letter

Except if it isn't a commission on the sale but a bonus for marketing success and it just so happens that the way in which you are confirming the marketing success is the increase in sales.

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Re: This comes down to the issue

First up it's 'semantics.' And I'll agree with the bit about everybody spinning them to their own advantage. I'll disagree about the bit on who is right. The lawyers will tell you that you don't have a sale until the contract is signed. If the signing is taking place in Ireland, that's where the sale is made. The lawmakers can always update the law to change how the lawyers have to interpret it. I also concur about lowering taxes, but then I'm one of those crazy 'Merkin rednecks the UK socialists who visit El Reg consistently downvote on economic issues. So even though you're right, it won't get any traction.

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Re: next step is a court case

assuming of course the MP has actual evidence as opposed to a well written bluster that plays well with the masses he is trying to buy off with Google's money.

Google tells Microsoft to yank its new WinPhone YouTube app

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@Kristian Walsh

Thank-you for the thoughtful reply.

The way you lay everything out is logical and rational.

I still have to wonder about it though. I frequently don't agree with the way Google's policies tend to move in a Progressive direction, but I've always found their business practices to be driven by logic and rational self-interested thought. Which makes me wonder if there's a missing fact which turns their apparently irrational act into a rational one.

Pirate Bay cofounder to run for European Parliament

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Re: I know full well the reaction daring to call Sunde - and Piratebay


Not because the overall description of The Pirate Bay is wrong, but because you chose to libel my political beliefs (which are contrary to The Pirate Bay continuing to suborn copyright infringements) by including them in the middle of your rant.

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