* Posts by federico peet

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Virgin Airlines drops in-flight 9/11 conspiracy movie

federico peet

Debunked?

Almost all of the attacks against the film and 911 truthers that have been posted in the comments are of the ad hominem type, ie they attack the messenger and not the message:

"some more crappy programming"

"the movie is a pile of sh*te"

"the guys voice really annoys the hell out of me"

"the barrage or poorly worded, over emphasized flame posts from conspiracy believers" (though, was this person talking about the government's conspiracy story about some Arabs?)

"it's total crap"

and someone points to a URL that has "911_morons" on it...

Someone else points to some articles that "prove" the government story. For example, http://www.architectureweek.com/2002/0515/news_1-1.html says "The second event was the continuing fire, fed both by the remaining jet fuel and the office contents of furniture and paper. This fire heated and weakened the structural systems, adding stress to the damaged structure." Well, I bet you didn't know this (from http://www.rense.com/general74/nist.htm):

"The fact is that jet fuel, which is essentially kerosene, will not burn in air in excess of about 1,000°C (1,832°F)­­­nowhere near the 2,800°F melting point of steel. Even this 1,000°C upper limit is very difficult to achieve, since, as Thomas Eagar pointed out, it requires the optimal mixing of fuel with oxygen during combustion, which can only be achieved in a laboratory. In fact, the clouds of black smoke that poured out of the twin towers on 9/11 were an obvious sign that the WTC fire burned at much lower temperatures, probably around 650°C (1,202°F) range, or even lower. This was due to the inefficient mixing of oxygen. It's why most building fires burn no hotter than around 500-650°C. (932 -1,202°F) "