* Posts by Richard Plinston

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That amazing Microsoft software quality, part 97: Windows Phone update kills Outlook, Calendar

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> but Google did have a hissy fit when MS made their own Youtube app

Google blocked the Microsoft Youtube app because it deliberately did not follow Google's Terms of Service. Specifically, Microsoft blocked Google ads which is what pays for the service.

Note that this did not block user's access to Youtube, they could watch using the browser.

It was Microsoft being evil (again).

https://www.windowscentral.com/google-microsoft-remove-youtube-windows-phone-store

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Windows 10 Pro goes Home as Microsoft fires up downgrade server

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According to slashdot:

"""Only users who had upgraded their computers to Windows 10 by using product keys of Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 appear to be impacted."""

At the time of the 'free upgrade' they promised that it would be 'free' for "the lifetime of the device". Maybe they have decided that a PC's 'lifetime' is now up. If your manufacturer's warranty has expired then "it's dead Jim".

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Re: Just go Linux "Take my Linux ... please!"

> Not that many people pay over $100 for Windows

> Most PCs come with Windows

When you buy a PC from an OEM or retailer and it 'comes with Windows' the manufacturer has sent money to Microsoft. This is part of the BOM cost and wholesale and retail margins are added to the total cost.

The PC doesn't just 'come with Windows', you are paying for it. With markup it may well be 'over $100'.

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Excuse me, but have you heard the teachings of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Chr-AI-st?

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Re: Accuracy

> and how over a millennium later they were translated from Latin (which was already "gamed" in ways the Catholic church wanted) a second time to English.

No. Wrong.

"""The translation was done by 47 scholars, all of whom were members of the Church of England.[9] In common with most other translations of the period, the New Testament was translated from Greek, the Old Testament from Hebrew and Aramaic, and the Apocrypha from Greek and Latin. """

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Version

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Re: Accuracy

> the AI-written passage is factually incorrect.

And the difference between this and any other text is ?

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Re: Accuracy

>> "If they wanted accuracy, they would have translated it from the original text, [...]"

> Is there one?

Not only is there no 'original text' but there never was. Nothing was written down before 'first temple' - around 10thC BCE. That is because there was no form of written hebrew before then. So for several hundred years it was just oral tradition and changed at the whim of the teller. Or maybe it was just invented much later.

Then in the 3rdC BCE or so all the written copies they could find were brought together and a single authorized version was formed. In some cases two of more of the versions were woven together which is why there are two different accounts in Genesis for several things.

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Memo to Microsoft: Windows 10 is broken, and the fixes can't wait

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Re: Broken, yes... and not fixable.

> they developed their first product, Microsoft BASIC, themselves,

It has been alleged that Altair BASIC was 'based on' an open source BASIC interpreter for DEC computers. As Intel 8080 development software ran on DEC it wouldn't have been too hard. Monte wrote the maths routines that were required.

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Re: "Never trust version .0 of anything. .0 or .1 if it's Microsoft"

> No, he wasn't. He was an adequate programmer. What he really brought to the table was that he's a crackerjack businessperson.

What he really brought to the table was his father who was a crackerjack lawyer and knew how to tie everyone up in contracts.

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Re: We need alternatives - good ones

> until I can drive my articulated lorry application on it

Linux is not a weighbridge!

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Re: Am I missing something here?

> Windows 3.x - amazing, breakthrough platform. A solid, usable GUI environment, but with full backward compatibility to DOS,

Most went to Windows 3.x so that they could run multiple DOS boxes - Lotus123 and WordPerfect. Solid?? if you didn't get 'Unrecoverable Application Error' with 3.0 every day then you weren't using it. 3.1 was much better but simply replaced UAE with a different message.

> Windows NT - sheer genius:

And that genius was DEC's David Cutler

> Windows CE/Mobile - the breakthrough mobile OS,

Now you are being ironic, maybe you misspelt 'broken'. CE was the equivalent of MS-DOS: single core, single tasking with something like the TSR system. It may have been fine for embedded systems (which is what it was designed for: CE=Consumer Electronics) but it was a stretch to call it an operating system.

> way ahead of its time

No it wasn't, it was from the mid 90s and was all that Microsoft had.

> Abandoning it was Microsoft's single biggest mistake, which Apple quickly capitalized on with its own vastly inferior mobile OS.

They didn't abandon it until far too late, it was still in Windows Phone 7, though this was completely incompatible with the previous CE Windows Mobile 6.x.

> Credit where credit is due - Microsoft didn't rise to power by building crappy products.

No. It rose to power by buying products or companies, rebranding them and making them crappy.

> Alas, once its competitors were all exterminated, the company rapidly went to seed.

Many competitors were all exterminated by MS contracting with them or buying them. The current competitors survived by not being able to be bought, either because they were too big in other areas or because they can be forked and survive.

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Re: "Sell Office on Steam, make sure it runs on Linux, too"

> Actually MS started well before to develop browsers

Actually MS paid Spyglass to develop IE. No, wait, it was only Spyglass that thought they were going to get paid to do the work. MS had this plan where they weren't going to pay. Eventually the courts had to order MS to pay Spyglass.

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Re: I think it's worth remembering ...

> International Computers Limited

I worked for them here is New Zealand and on projects in Bracknell for a couple of decades. In fact I joined ICT shortly before they changed to being part of ICL.

I still have quite a number of ICL machines in my stack from ICL 1501s (not to be confused with ICT 1500s), PC1, PC2 (8085 and 8086), Quattro, Quattro XM, DRS20 model 40 and 150, DRS300. 6402, 6404, 6404L, 303.

Available by collection only.

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Re: "In the 1990s, MS could never have been as stupid . . "

> Nobody is going to migrate to Linux because that is a functional nightmare for a company of just about any size.

And yet Linux is the basis of the most common OS found anywhere (Android) has 99+% of the top supercomputers and has more than 50% of the servers, and dominates embedded systems.

Most companies are already using it.

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> Office was always far more reliable than its competitors.

But when it completely screwed up a file this could be recovered by using LibreOffice.

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> Yes, all through the 1980s and 1990s, and into the early 2000s. MS-DOS was terrific,

I always found that DRI operating systems were far better. Early MS-DOS systems would corrupt diskettes if they were swapped. CP/M and DR-DOS would actually check. I used DRI's MP/M and Concurrent-xxx which supported hard drives and pre-emptive multi-tasking and multi-user when MS-DOS still only did floppy disks.

MS-DOS was always a poor performer which is why most successful software bypassed it for everything except file system to do direct BIOS calls or even bit banging the video cards.

While MS-DOS 5 was almost up to what DR-DOS 5 did it was 20 months later. DR-DOS 6 then brought better memory management and even task switching while MS-DOS took almost another year to catch up.

> Windows NT, starting in the mid-1990s, was a miracle of stability when compared to most anything on the desktop.

Windows NT was certainly more stable than 3.x or 95. 95 had a bug for two years where, if the internal clock overflowed after 39 days and some hours, the system locked up. This was not reported for two years because no one had reached that point.

> ambitious, leading-edge software that no other company could have pulled off as well as Microsoft

did.

Most of which was bought in from other companies, or the company was bought. Even NT was a bought in project that eventually MS had to settle with DEC by paying them a reported $100million.

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Re: Broken, yes... and not fixable.

> To be fair, the design of CP/M was also ripped off - from the PDP-8 operating system OS/8. The fact that the Copy command was called PIP (Peripheral Interchange Program) is the smoking gun.

CP/M was developed on DEC machines at Intel while Gary was under contract to develop PL/M compilers. The CP/M BDOS was written in PL/M to prove that useful programs could be developed. Intel did not want CP/M as their plans for the 8080 did not include small computers and Gary was allowed to keep it for his own use.

That the utility has the same name of PIP does not indicate that anything was 'ripped off'.

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Re: Broken, yes... and not fixable.

> Altair Basic/Basica/GW-Basic, developed by Bill Gates and Paul Allen themselves.

When Bill and Paul were at Harvard they were able to use the DEC computer. It is alleged that there was an open source version of BASIC that Bill was able to obtain. When they developed Altair BASIC they used a DEC-20 to cross compile to 8080 using standard Intel tools (and did not pay for the computer time they used). The maths routines needed complete rewrite which was done by Monte Davidoff.

> Did you know that their first OS was a Unix clone called Xenix?

Xenix was a real Unix version 6 or 7 licenced from AT&T and ported to 8086 by 'The Santa Cruz Operation' (SCO), a software house that specialised in porting Unix to various machines. Later this was sold to SCO becoming SCO Xenix and later updated to System3 and renamed as SCO OpenServer.

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Re: Broken, yes... and not fixable.

> - MSDOS - bought from Tim Paterson (who copied the design of CP/M)

There are some that say that Tim copied the code of CP/M, specifically of version 1.2.

Both SCP and MS were OEM licenced for CP/M. SCP for their Zebra range, MS for the Z80 Softcard for the Apple II. Both had all the source code that DRI would supply to its OEMs. The BDOS, however, was written in PL/M and supplied as a binary because it was invarient. At the time there were 'commented decompilers' available for various software, including CP/M BDOS. There was also an Intel 8080 -> 8086 ASM translator.

SCP was developing 8086 processor boards for their Zebra machines and needed an OS to test with. It has been claimed that they decompiled the BDOS, ran it through the Intel translator and recompiled (with many fixups) to get the initial QDOS. This would have had CP/M file system which would have been needed as they would have built the system the system using CP/M, swapped the processor board and rebooted.

The MS FAT filesystem was added later from MS's 'Stand-alone BASIC'.

It is alleged that when IBM was testing PC-DOS, Gary Kildal was able to enter a particular command and get a DRI copyright message displayed. IBM settled giving Gary money, agreeing to sell CP/M-86 alongside PC-DOS and rewriting the BDOS - which became version 1.25.

The reason that it is alleged to be version 1.2 that was copied is that it had a specific bug in handling the FCBs and this bug existed in the earliest MS-DOS and PC-DOS - prior to 1.25.

SCP initially licenced Microsoft non-exclusively for 86-DOS (or SCP-DOS) running on 8086 CPUs. In theory its use on 8088 was breaking the licence. Later, MS purchased it outright and this gave SCP as many free copies of MS-DOS as required as long as they were sold with a computer. When the SCP factory burned down they started selling a V20 chip (faster 8088 clone with 8080 support) with a copy of MS-DOS. MS had to buy back the agreement for a million or so.

> - Internet Explorer - licensed from Spyglass

Spyglass wrote IE, it was not a version of Mosaic but was new code, on the basis of getting a royalty ($5?) for every copy sold. MS gave away IE and thus none were sold and no royalties were paid. Spyglass sued and eventually won a settlement of some millions, but by then the company had folded.

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Sure, Europe. Here's our Android suite without Search, Chrome apps. Now pay the Google tax

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Re: Or the fourth option...

> _Abuse of monopoly_, not just monopoly. When the store owner makes it mandatory to have an account in the store in order to get security patches for your phone and bricks your phone if you try to use other shops, it's obviously abuse.

I get it. You hate Google with a passion and probably love Microsoft (is that you TheVogon?) and resent Windows Phone being a complete failure.

But there is no need to just make stuff up: "bricks your phone if you try to use other shops". Bullshit!! Using F-Droid does not brick your Android.

> Reality is that it isn't only shop, it's only the only _Google approved_ shop, just because they own it.

Why would they approve a shop that they don't control and therefore have no information about ?

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Re: Google is far better than apple

> Google was able to say "If you make a phone with that, we won't let you build anything else".

You are correct that if a company signs up for play services then they can't do ASOP. They could, however, build anything else they want to, such as Windows Phones, or Tizen.

Compare that with HP where MS used 'loyalty discounts' to kill WebOS, or Dell where they dropped Android in similar circumstances.

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> Google's search monopoly abuse created a monoculture (well OK duoculture if that's a word) in the mobile phone OS market.

It was Microsoft that killed WebOS, Symbian, Asha, Maemo/Meego, Melemi, Kin, WM6.x, Nokia-X and ultimately WP8 and W10M.

Microsoft pushing WP into 'Microsoft only' corporates probably helped kill Blackberry too.

Google is big in search because it gives the best results. I have no idea why you think that people buy Androids because Google has the best search engine. Any phone can use Google search, or any other search - they can do it in their browser.

No. They buy Androids because Microsoft killed off everything else except ones they can't afford.

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Who destroyed the competition ?

> Android has destroyed all OS competition in mobile, except for Apple - because nobody else could charge for a mobile OS.

Microsoft killed WebOS by waving WoA (Windows on ARM - RT) and 'loyalty discounts' at HP (you wouldn't want to have to pay retail to put Windows on the boxes you sell).

Microsoft killed Symbian, Meltemi, Maemo/Meego, Asha by the contract it had with Nokia via Elop.

Microsoft killed Windows Mobile 6.x with a completely different 100% incompatible Windows Phone 7.

Microsoft killed Kin.

Microsoft killed Nokia-X/Microsoft-X (Android using MS and Nokia services) by just closing it down because it was outselling Lumia.

Microsoft killed Windows Phone and Windows 10 Mobile by incompetence.

Microsoft then complained that Android was a monopoly.

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Apple to dump Intel CPUs from Macs for Arm – yup, the rumor that just won't die is back

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Re: Rosetta-a-like is absolutely necessary

> Here's the breaking news: all three of them already run on AArch64 (ARM64).

The RT version of Office was severely limited in some features.

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Re: You're ignoring Windows

> Microsoft is supposedly supporting ARM Windows that does its own translation from x64 to ARM64,

No, Microsoft is not doing 'x64' (x86-AMD64) to ARM64. It is doing x86-32 to ARM64.

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Raspberry Pi fans up in arms as Mathematica disappears from Raspbian downloads

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Re: 300 baud!? You were lucky...

> cueing up

Was that billiards or snooker ?

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> that adds up to, er, quite a lot of wasted bandwidth.

It is only wasted if you _don't_ use it.

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Microsoft: OK, we have no phones, but look how much we love Android

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Re: Microsoft Android ®

> we know that one of the patents is for the FAT filesystem.

It is not for the actual FAT filesystem, that expired decades ago. It was for a feature of VFAT that has long file names and the way that these are held and a short file name is generated.

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Re: 3 Words

> these weapons WILL be used, and probably in the Middle East - sparking more wars,

Trump has to come up with some reason to cancel the upcoming mid-term elections. A Middle East war, or Korean, will do that.

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Re: Surprised they don't make their own Android phones

> Some people claim that Nokia X was a way of forcing Microsoft into buying the company's phone business.

It was a way of Nokia surviving if Microsoft didn't buy the division. The agreement where MS paid Nokia a $million a year for only make Windows Phones was about to expire. In spite of that subsidy the division was still making a loss because they had to sell the phones below cost in order for them to be bought. This was because MS only catered for a limited set of SOCs that were well below leading edge.

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Re: 3 Words

> indication of how insistent they are in engaging in this theft.

You should try learning English. 'Theft' is "removing of personal property with intent to deprive the rightful owner of it".

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Re: Microsoft Android ®

> make it very difficult to be able to use SD cards to exchange data with non-Linux computers.

The main issues are that cameras generally use FAT for their SD cards and that Microsoft makes it difficult for Windows to use anything else.

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Re: Surprised they don't make their own Android phones

They already did make an Android phone with MS and Nokia services.

A couple of months before Microsoft bought Nokia phone division Nokia released a couple of phones with the Nokia X platform based on Android Jelly Bean. After the purchase Microsoft continued building them as 'Microsoft X', but soon killed them because they may have overtaken the sales of Lumia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_X

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/17/x_marks_the_chop_microsoft_snuffs_out_nokias_android_venture/

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First 'issue-free' build of Windows 10 October 2018 Update arrives

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Re: No, I will not switch out the lights.

> Technically speaking, Windows 10 Mobile is not the same as Windows Phone.

That is part of the problem. WM6.x -> WP7 was a complete rewrite in a completely different development toolchain. WP7 -> WP8 was maybe just review and recomp, or maybe change away from yet another dead end. WP9 -> WM10 was another rewrite to UWP.

> more developers might make the effort to put out apps that support both mobile and desktop

Developers do not want one app for both mobile and desktop. They want a cheap mobile app that is simple to use _and_ a more expensive desktop application for better revenue.

Mobile users won't pay desktop prices for an app, developers don't want users to get desktop software at mobile app prices.

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It's been 5 years already, let's gawp at Microsoft and Nokia's bloodbath

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Re: Fully paid up member of the Elop Conspiracy Theory Crew here...

> I had not a single moments doubt that Elops cunning plan from the get go was to sell Nokia to MS.

His contract gave him $25million if MS bought Nokia phone division. That was his only plan.

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Google is 20, Chrome is 10, and Microsoft would rather ignore the Nokia deal's 5th birthday

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Re: It wasn't just apps

> Charles Petzold, the author of what was the "Bible" ... examples from the Windows 1 SDK that can still be built and run on the most modern versions of Windows

While it may well be true that _some_ of the examples could be recompiled on whatever was the 'most modern' at the time he said that, it is also true that programs compiled for Windows 1 or 2 would not run under Windows 95 or later.

> I don't think there is no any UI toolkit still in widespread use that could boast this.

X-Windows comes to mind as one that probably could do this, and that was before MS Windows 1. Also it wouldn't surprise me to find that some early Macintosh, also before Windows 1, example code could still be compiled and run.

But, does anyone still program down to the raw SDK level ? I would have thought that most programming is done on much higher level frameworks.

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Re: Maybe...

> IMO, Nokia killed Symbian, Meego/ Maemo et al. through managerial cowardice and a "fight it out amongst yourselves" mentality. Microsoft only turned up and delivered the mercy blow.

Certainly Nokia, as the top phone maker in the world, had many development projects that competed with each other. This is how product development works, but they could have been more efficient. It was Elop, Microsoft's wooden horse, that delivered 'the blow' with his burning platforms memo. He killed Symbian production even when there were outstanding orders. He killed the N9, and N9x0, even though it was outselling Lumix in the countries that were allowed to have it.

Microsoft did 'turn up' to buy the division because they were switching to Android (Nokia-X) and then 'delivered the mercy blow' to Windows Phone/Windows 10 Mobile by closing it all down.

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Re: "such as word processing and browsers"

> You mean like browsers in iOS and Chromebooks? Here again, MS came last, others paved the way to full lock-in.

"""Safari is the default browser pre-installed on every new iOS device, but there are plenty of alternatives, ranging from Google Chrome and Opera's various mobile offerings to Dolphin, Atomic and Ghostery."""

"""Firefox on Chrome OS. Opera Mini on Chrome OS. Dolphin Browser running on Chrome OS. Ghostery running on Chrome OS."""

Windows Phone: """first launched in October 2010 with Windows Phone 7"""

ChromeOS: """Initial release June 15, 2011"""

I am not sure why you think that "MS came last", nor that "others paved the way", but then this is the world of 'alternate facts'.

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Re: It wasn't just apps

> I thought the orphan devices had a lot to do with it - i.e. Windows Mobile 6.x devices couldn't run Windows Phone 7.0. OK, as expected. Windows Phone 7.x devices couldn't run Windows Phone 8.0. WTF? And then again for many (but not all) Windows Phone 8.x devices with Windows Phone 10.0!

It wasn't just the devices that were deadended, it was the apps and the whole development toolchain that was dumped and reset. WM6.x was a complete dead end, nothing could be ported to WP7*. At least there was a conversion that could be done to some WP7 apps so they could be loaded into WP8 - when they didn't fail due to incompatibilities. WM10 then moved to UWP but developers had lost interest in rewriting everything yet again.

* WM6.x devices outsold WP7 for many months after WP7 release due to businesses needing new phones that ran their existing in-house developed apps that couldn't be ported to anything else and needed completely starting from scratch again.

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Nokia X

> If only it was a flagship ... Maybe a current HMD device, only made by "real Nokia*", and to Nokia quality ...

You are thinking of much later Nokia Androids.

Nokia X was not by HMD and was not Chinese made. It was produced in Nokia factories and was very similar to Lumix models - except the OS. It was available in Feb 2014 and Microsoft kept producing them for some months after they bought the factories, calling them Microsoft X.

The HMD devices were much later.

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Re: "trying to cram the Windows desktop onto a tiny mobile screen"

> later it tried to expand the tile UI designed for small mobile screens to large desktop ones, showing they have real issues in understanding users needs,

Microsoft hired consults to tell them why Windows Phone was not doing well in the market*. For a very large sum of money they told MS that the problem was that desktop users were unfamiliar with the UI. The solution was to force that UI down the users' throats until they loved it and _demanded_ it on their phones.

* various analysts had claimed WP would overtake iPhone by 2010 or somesuch.

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Re: Maybe...

> and claim that markets always tend to converge on two dominant players anyway,

It was Microsoft that killed off Symbian, Maemo/Meego, Asha, Meltemi, Nokia-X (Android, later Microsoft-X) by contracts with Nokia. It was Microsoft that killed off WebOS (by waving 'Loyalty Discounts' at HP*). It was Microsoft that killed Windows Mobile 6.x, Windows Phone 7 and Windows Phone 8 (by incompetence in making the next range incompatible). Granted WM10 died a natural death because, by then, no one wanted it.

So the convergence to two players was the 'natural outcome' of Microsoft stamping on anything that it could that looked like competition to its products, and then being incompetent with its own.

* HP did not want to pay retail price for all MS products so it was cheaper to drop WebOS.

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Re: It wasn't just apps

>> Windows Phone 7.x devices couldn't run Windows Phone 8.0. WTF?

> IIRC, the argument was Secure Boot or something.

WP7 devices were strictly single core SoCs. WP7 was based on 'CE' and couldn't cope with more than one. In fact the advertising had 'why would you need dual core' implying that others were inefficient.

WP8 _required_ dual core and all the SoCs that it would run on were specific dual core parts.

Microsoft only built versions of WP7 and WP8 to work with a specific list of SoCs and there was no overlap. The makers could not rebuild for a SoC not on the list. In fact originally each maker was directed to use a specific source.

> A certain HTC HD2 disagrees. Not only it ran WP7, it also ran WP8, Windows 10 Mobile, Windows RT, and Android

It seems that the HD2 (a Windows Mobile 6.x phone) was used by MS to develop WP7 as both WM6.x and WP7 were based on CE. This allowed developers (not HTC) to hack WP7 to run but is was unsupported.

"""In December 2012, Windows RT and Windows Phone 8 were ported onto the device as a proof-of-concept; no working builds exist."""

While the WM10 upgrade list does have an "HD 2" it is not the 'HTC HD2', it is the 'Blu Win HD 2'.

Android (ASOP) is, of course, available to be built for any device.

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Re: "your App Store lacks very very popular apps (YouTube, Snapchat)"

> The YouTube app was there. Just Google complained it violated its policies... I would have seen what had happened with roles inverted...

Of course it violated the Google terms of trade, it was Microsoft that wrote it.

The roles were inverted when software that competed with Microsoft products were not allowed into the MS store, such as word processing and browsers. OTOH MS Office for Android, and much else from Microsoft is in the Google Play Store.

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Microsoft gives Windows 10 a name, throws folks a bone

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Re: use of 'goto'

> It's a necessary techinque in a deficient language.

The problem with goto isn't the goto itself, that is perfectly clear what happens.

The problem is that goto requires a label as its target. When you are analysing code and you find a label then the flow of control can now be arbitrary. Control can pop into existence at the label from almost anywhere and it will take a comprehensive search and examination in order to find all the points that may launch to that label.

At least with C the label can only be accessed from within the current procedure unless particularly nasty coding is used.

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> On Windows, you are effectively stuck with LO, which really is not an improvement except in price.

Let Google be your friend:

"""The best free office software 2018

LibreOffice. Everything you could want from an office suite, fully compatible with Microsoft formats and totally free to use – even commercially. ...

Google Docs, Sheets and Slides. ...

Microsoft Office Online. ...

WPS Office Free. ...

Polaris Office. ...

SoftMaker FreeOffice. ...

Open365. ...

Zoho Workplace.

"""

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Hello 'WOS': Windows on Arm now has a price

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Re: The market for 25 hour battery life is very limited

> It may sometimes be 3-5 days between charges in some areas.

Do those areas have LTE available (or public WiFi) for the 'Always Connected' that this device is intended for ?

Can you not recharge from your car or RV or are these areas so deep in the woods that they can't be reached by roads?

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Re: okay lets run the numbers

> WinNT was originally designed for alpha.

No. Alpha was one of the later ports and it ran in a non-preferred mode (little endian) of that CPU. NT was originally to be developed for Intel 860. This failed so it was moved to MIPS workstations. It was later ported to x86, Itanium, POWER, and Alpha. It was only kept on Alpha after DEC sued Microsoft for using DEC designs of a VMS replacement, the settlement included many $millions (alleged $100million) paid to DEC, keeping the Alpha port and joint promotion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_i860

"""Microsoft initially developed what was to become Windows NT on internally designed i860XR-based workstations (codenamed Dazzle), only porting NT to the MIPS (Microsoft Jazz), Intel 80386 and other processors later. Some claim the NT designation was a reference to the "N-Ten" codename of the i860XR.[13]"""

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Re: Wipe Windows...

> But Linux is an operating system that has difficulty finding acceptance when it is given away free.

That must be why Linux is only found in several billion devices including the majority of servers, 80% of phones and >99% of Supercomputers.

> Shilling for Linux in Windows discussions ...

Actually it is about a device, the Lenovo Yoga C630 laptop. It is perfectly reasonable to ask if it can run other operating systems, such as Linux or RISCOS, though it is rather pointless because these operating systems do not need 32bit x86 emulation as most software is already available in native ARM. It is only Windows that most software is stuck on Intel/AMD, and much of that is now 64bit only so won't run on this device.

> Maybe the Linux guys paid people to run it they could get some traction in the mainstream market place? Just a suggestion.

Paid shilling? No, that is a Windows thing.

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Re: How much?

> Apparently Windows 10 S has an app in their store which flicks the switch and changes it to normal Windows 10 and it's a free download.

That is apparently true for the Intel version of Windows 10S. That has no bearing on whether the ARM 10S has the same facility.

The Snapdragon 850 only has emulation for x86 and _not_ x86-64. As most software over the last decade has moved to 64bit then your favourite programs may not be available on this machine.

In fact the lack of 'normal' Win10 may be deliberate so that Microsoft can ensure that only software that will run under this emulation will be available. Otherwise there may be too many returns because the user tried loading software that could not run.

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It may be poor man's Photoshop, but GIMP casts a Long Shadow with latest update

Richard Plinston
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Re: Forget the geeky stuff, sort out the user experience.

> Yes, we need an image processing ... program for the uninitiated.

I mainly do simple photo processing: straightening, cropping, sharpening, colour adjusting, resizing, ... I find that Digikam does it all quickly, simply and easily. If I need to do pixel stuff then I do it in GIMP.

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