* Posts by h4rm0ny

4617 posts • joined 26 Jul 2008

Climate sceptic becomes UK Environment Secretary


Re: Misnomer

"There is no doubt that climate change is happening. It is not scepticism, but flat-out denial"

Actually, it's a strawman. Pretty much everyone who gets called a "climate change skeptic" is more fairly described as a skeptic of Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW). We're not generally doubtful that the climate is changing - after all, it does that continually. Where we are skeptical, it is about how much of a role human activity is playing in that change. Calling people "denialists" and "climate change skeptics" is strawmanning badly and unhelpful to reasonable debate.

Windows Server 2012: Smarter, stronger, frustrating


Re: @richto

So looking at your list of things that UNIX and Linux had that Windows Server 2012 now has too, it seems you think that Server 2012 has now caught up with UNIX and Linux?

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The de-duplication is awesome. Run 64 Linux VMs on it and have all the redundant OS code in each of those VMs exist only once on the disk, massively reducing storage space. Deduplication services already exist, but this is integrated and standard and based on conversations with others, it looks like it's significantly superior.

Also love how all the GUI elements are now wrappers for PowerShell and off in the preferred install. Makes it more like the power you get with Linux CLI. Very impressive.

'Google's crap for business' - CIOs give ad giant dose of reality


Re: Google needs to change its cost, licensing and privacy fineprint to bag more enterprise clients

Microsoft have the same issue - they really need to create a separate legally separate business unit for Europe so that their cloud offerings can be used without concerns of US government poking its nose in legally. Of course you can run your own cloud on Server 2012 which sidesteps the problem. But it would be nice if you could use MS's cloud services without this worry. It makes it legally unacceptable for some purposes.

Organic food offers basically no health benefit, boffins find


Re: attributed to Monsanto

""Of course it's natural! What do you think it is? Supernatural?""

The antithesis of 'natural' would normally be considered to be 'unnatural'. I.e. does not occur in nature.


Re: @h4rm0ny

"Right. So you support organics because they have a propaganda value? That says it all, really."

Actually, that says something completely other than what I wrote. I gave a number of supportable reasons in my post and none of them were to do with "propaganda value".

"No, it's not. The real fuck-you to the developing world is us stopping them getting higher productivity agriculture, cheaper energy and inward investment."

Where am I stopping them getting cheaper energy or inward investment? I'm extremely pro-nuclear for a start and you don't get better energy than that. India is one of the leading deployers of nuclear energy and I fully support that, though my support is chiefly limited to shooting down stupid arguments online or the rare environmental meeting. Inward investment? You know nothing about what businesses I work in or where my money goes. For your information I've contributed to a number of developing countries. You know nothing about me or what I do for a living. You have only, somehow, extrapolated from my comments about patents on GMOs for example, that I am somehow against investing in developing countries. A very stupid extrapolation. As to pesticides and higher-yields, they want that primarily for export market, and the export market is what distorts much of the local production in the first place. For example, you get areas of India with vitamin D deficiency being common because traditional farming containing a balance of nutrients, has given way to intensive rice farming. A problem that Monsanto exploits to sell its vitamin D-enriched "golden rice", ironically enough.

"People like you love to keep the poor where they are - they look lovely on postcards. You might not think you're a racist, but your politics certainly is."

Making an argument that developing countries should be wary of ending up with their crops being nearly all patented by massive Western corporations who will later on cease to subsidize the buying of those crops once native seed stocks are heavily depleted and they are reliant on heavy use of pesticides and herbicides because the balance of their local ecosystem has been heavily shifted, is not reason to start suggesting I'm racist. Both the science and the economics of the above are sound.

In short, your response seems to have little to do with the post I wrote. It seems to be a knee-jerk abuse based on some simplistic demon environmentalist stereotype that exists in your mind. No, people "like me" do not "love to keep the poor where they are." Poor people don't make good trading partners or customers for my tech-based services. Plus there's, you know, something called compassion. A thing that you seem to assume no-one but yourself posesses.


Re: Not sure...

"But what if one is, shall we say, a laaaydeee ....., hmm? :P"

Then excess oestrogen will interfere with fertility. It will not, as far as I am aware, result in giant, gravity-defying breasts. Sorry to disappoint.


Re: Efficiency vs Etthics

"ever since humans stopped chasing down mamoths for steaks and started farming, we have been GM'ing our food crops and animals, be it from selective breeding and cross polintation etc. GM is that 'selective breeding' at a greater precission"

Argue for or against GM crops whichever way you want (you'll notice that I elsewhere gave a long list of reasons that had little to do with health, btw), but please don't misrepesent science in order to try and bolster your case. No matter how many tens of thousands of years you selectively breed your cereal crop, it is unlikely to cross-breed with a caterpillar and acquire its genes for making toxins harmful to its predators (for example).


Re: Not sure... @h4m0ny

I was more just making a point about their assumption they were talking to a male audience.


Re: Not sure...

"At least you won't grow tits eating organic food!"

Breaking news from AC! Sex of a person is actually down to whether or not they eat organic food rather than chomasomal difference! "Who knew?" says scientific community.


Re: Why it's "better"/

I've always preferred organic food because I think it encourages better environmental farming (less destructive to the British countryside and wildlife, leads to more locally sourced food which boosts local industry) and as a secondary reason because I'm never fully confident that pesticide residues have been fully removed and that these are not mildly harmful. I don't buy exclusively organic, but the environmental factor is enough to make it my preference where possible and affordable. I certainly know people who think organic food is more nutritious, but I think a lot of organic buyers have the same reasons as myself.

Nutritional content more greatly suffers I think, through selective breeding of fruit and vegetables to be more supermarket-friendly. That is they are bred for size or shape rather than nutritional value. And then quite often sprayed or waxed to make them more colourful or shiny. You can actually taste the wax on most apples for example. But people follow the visual cues, going for, e.g. massive, flavourless items. Except for blind people who just wonder why everything tastes shit these days. Seriously, everyone should try and get hold of some of the more obscure, traditional varieties of various fruits to see what they're like. Did you know that tomatoes actually come in white and yellow varieties as well? But outside of a few keen gardners keeping the species alive, they're all but wiped out by the supermarkets that just want to seel bundles of giant, bright red ones. A shame as these obscure varieties have great tastes. The throwing out of food because it's a funny shape or too small or big or off-colour, is the real fuck you to the developing world.

Organic food also tends to align with non-GMO food as well. And certainly presents dangers such as patents on foods, the destruction of traditional farming cycles with terminator crops (where you can't save seed for replanting next year), massively increased use and potency of herbicides and a genetic monoculture of food (which is a low risk, but extremely high stakes).

I got tired of the strawman being thrown at me whenever I got into a conversation about organic food that it hadn't been shown to be healthier. Maybe it is (pesticide residues), it probably isn't, or if so, the difference is statistical rather than directly measurable. But it's not strictly limited to that issue and I'm very glad to see this article actually raises the environmental motivation many of us have for buying organic.


Re: Simple tool to determine the quality of food

"sugar, glutamate..."

salt, saturated fats, excess meat, carcinogenic fried foods, various sweet tasting but poisonous berries, a wide range of mushrooms that taste no different to regular mushrooms... in fact, actually don't just use your taste buds. Use learning and research.

Torvalds bellows: 'The GNOME PEOPLE are in TOTAL DENIAL'


Re: I think you miss the point of the post.

"Windows 8, ever more layers because the "not-metro" has now added a gay layer of buttons on top of the very well layered and hidden win 7 (not really 6.1 vista upgrade - honest)"

I am going to be charitable and assume by "gay layer of buttons" you mean cheerful and colourful. So yes, yest they are. On any other interpretation of your post, you're an idiot, though.


"wrong, linux does want dumb users, computers shouldn't be for the elite who can figure stuff out, it should be for everybody, clever and dumb alike."

The nice thing about Linux is that it can be for everyone because "Linux" is the kernel. Unlike Windows you can bolt on Gnome to the top of it, or KDE, or just pootle along with the command line like I do. That gives it a freedom that Windows doesn't have. It's a limitation too as fragmentation can slow development and confuse some people, but on the whole, it's a big asset. Also, very few users are "dumb", they've just prioritized learning different stuff.


Re: done way more for Free Software than you probably ever will

"Great argument. It's going to make the Reg forums a bit empty when only people of similar stature can comment on a story."

Commenting is fine. But personal attacks from the peanut gallery are something else. If a person says 2+2 = 4. then they're right whoever they are. That's called a supported argument. But if someone launches personal attacks and juvenile name calling against two people who have done orders of magnitude more for the community than they ever have, then it's right to ask them who they think they are to be doing so, because they certainly didn't provide any supportive reasons for the abuse. When I criticises Miguel, I at least provided solid reasoning behind it and I certainly limited my critique to his particular actions, rather than making personal attacks and name calling.


Re: Torvalds is turning out to be

Modded down firstly for an unsupported personal attack on Linus Torvalds. Secondly for using as a basis for that attack a comparison to someone who has almost certainly contributed a lot more to the Free Software movement than you ever have or ever will (all those lovely GNU tools Stallman had a hand in and all the promotion work he has done and his instrumental role in the origins of GPL). And finally for the presumed spur to your comment being this article about Linus criticizing Migel De Icaza when the latter has in many ways been a problem in the Free Software movement. For example, Miguel started Mono which is a .NET implementation for Linux and, the more popular it becomes, the more Linux is inherently placed on a backfoot by those who control the standard - Microsoft. Miguel also endorsed MS' OOXML document format. Ironically, I'm actually fine with OOXML on Windows, but I have doubts that it should be promoted as a standard in the Linux world, as Miguel has done. Particularly as at the time, it wasn't the actual implementable standard of OOXML that exists today, but the buggy unimplementable one that was initially rushed through ISO.

That you call Linus a "tool" for arguing with Miguel, that you catch someone who (even if you don't like him) has done way more for Free Software than you probably ever will and that you provide no support for your personal attack at all... yep - downvote for you.

Patent flame storm: Reg hack biteback in reader-pack sack attack


Re: Oh, that's easy.

"Given that such a sequence has only 2^16 unique values, and thus can only represent 2^16 unique decompressed values, and I can think of more than 2^16 unique input files, I suspect that you're not telling the complete truth."

To be fair, they didn't say they could also write a program that would decompress them.

Markets to remain glutted with rapidly-depreciating Facebook shares


Re: Rarely has the phrase lol sprung so readily to my fingers

A bunch of financial analysts thought it was, or said they thought it was good. Motley Fool has been running articles advising people that now is a good time to buy!

But more or less the entire IT community thought Facebook was massively over-valued and would plummet, lots of financial analysts said it would be fine. Should have listened to the people who understood it.

Microsoft awards itself Google-esque power over Hotmail, SkyDrive etc


Re: *Shrug*

"They don't routinely open letters, read them, stuff in some adverts related to your message and fire it off to the recipient."

The do, however, ask you to pay for their service.

PCs get touchy ahead of Windows 8 launch


Re: Oh dear.

Wont somebody please think of the T-Rexes!

(I don't mind reaching for the screen on a laptop, but I wont be buying anything where the screen isn't detachable as if it's going to be touchscreen, I want to get my money's worth).

NASA funds sexy, stealthy, sideways supersonic flying wing


Why do you need a pilot?

It's my understanding that pilots increasingly do very, very little during an actual flight and increasingly little during take off and landing, and are mainly there for backup. We've already had one incident, iirc, where we had a crash because the pilot overrode the autopilot. By the time this thing is actually ready (further designs, costing, approval, let alone manufacturing) we'll have another half a decade to a decade of computer and software advancement.

Just have a lump of silicon, it wont mind where it sits in the plane.

Hipsters hacking on PostgreSQL


Wait! What?

I'm a hipster?

Windows Phone 8: Microsoft quite literally can't lose


Re: Ballmer

Shareholders are never known for thinking long-term. They typically want everything and want it now. What MS are doing is a major and impressive shift. I think the coming year for MS is going to be a great one. They're coming up with new products that are different and interesting and work well. The buzz I'm getting off most people is that they're really interested in it.

Readers: Choose the proper new name for Everything Everywhere


Something Sometimes.

The others are good but the above is the only one that is both funny and wont confuse newcomers or those who don't spend every day hanging out on El Reg.

Apple and Google in talks to end patent war?


Re: Cudly upstart?

"Google wasn't cuddly when they went guns blazing against Microsoft accusing Bing of copying their search results... and rightly so!"

Not that one again! That was an incredibly contrived and misleading test. What they did was create a random string that had no search results anywhere, e.g. "mbzrxpgjys" and then they searched for this with Google. And this is the key part, they did so with feedback options in Internet Explorer turned on that let it submit URL information back to MS in order to help it improve its results. They then clicked on specific URLs in response to the random string so that the random string would become associated with that URL. This was then submitted to MS to add to their search results (via the browser options they had selected to allow this). Thus they were deliberately and knowingly creating a situation in which the only possible source of connection between the random string and the clicked on URL was the behaviour of one user who had options turned on to submit their behaviour to MS. When they then went to Bing and searched for the random string, thus their clicked on URL came up.

So at no point was MS copying anything from Google, they added the choice of a user who deliberately associated a random string with a URL that had nothing to do with that string (how could it?).

In no way does the headline "Bing copies Google's search results" create an accurate impression of what occurs. Seriously - from that headline would you guess how contrived and arbitrary what was actually going on here? That someone was specifically crafting scenarios in which the only possible source of a relationship between a search term and a result was their browser and then voluntarily submitting that information to MS? No, I don't think so. But some people like the headline even though it's grossly misleading and don't bother to explain what was actually going on.


Bad for free software

One of the points about Android is that it's supposed to be Free Software, yes? I know that Google have kind of broken that slightly by not releasing everything they do at the time (with promises it will come later), but it's still open source software isn't it? But any patent deal that Google forge with Apple will be just between them. Meaning if anyone wants to use Android that isn't Google, they can't do so because (a) Apple may sue them out of business and (b) the biggest logical defender of against any dubious patents - Google - has already settled and will leave others to fight their own defences.

Is that right? I haven't followed Android for a little while but it's still Free Software with a lot of Open Source developers contributing under GPL, correct? If so, an agreement basically turns it into a one-way street with Google able to use it but everyone else at risk of being sued if they try.

Samsung readies handheld releases for Windows 8


Re: Rounded

"They're far too mainstream to be hipster, shirley?"

The genius of Apple's marketing is to present something as elite and special, when everyone and their dog has one.


Re: The hybrid

Don't forget actual separate user accounts!


No trackpad, phones for gorillas

The phone looks nice apart from the fact that it's the size of the monolith from 2001. Why phones that size sell, I have no idea. But the hybrid? It would be great - if it had a trackpad! I've looked through the Win8 hybrids that Samsung, Toshiba and Sony have revealed at the event and they all seem to have this mistaken idea that just because the screen is touch-capable, that they can forgo a trackpad. I can't be the only one that thinks this is a mistake. I mean the Surface has a trackpad so I hope at least some of the OEM ones will still have these.

Also, the Samsung presentation was hillarious in all the wrong ways. My favourite line from it: "Okay, so we've heard a lot of shit about sharing, tonight..."

If you can't take the Samsung, get out of the kitchen


Re: Make that -10

"She was near flat-chested."

You have bigger tits, presumably?


I have owned a number of pieces of very good hardware from Samsung. But their presentations have always been hysterically bad. Their reveal of the Ativ line yesterday featured the classic line: "Now, we've heard a lot of shit about sharing tonight..."

Oh, and -1 point for advertising your products by having a woman in a tight dress next to them. Could the sex not be represented by a woman engineer who works there, or does Samsung not have any?

AMD to double up cores with Jaguars

Paris Hilton

Re: Apple lawsuit in 3...2...1

"Depends on whether the AMD guys can pronounce "Jaguar"."


Samsung to offer Apple Dock style Start Button in Windows? Really?


Re: @h4rm0ny Posted Wednesday 29th August 2012 14:54 GMT

"All of these can be done in Windows 7 as well, with free applications. I don't need to see how many emails I have, by the way. I just need to know that I have new emails."

The point in this case isn't saying that you can't do the same in Windows 7, the point is that if you can do the same in Windows 8, why is Andrew Orlowski suggesting that it's such a disaster? You can say that Windows 8 doesn't offer you enough advantages to change (though there are plenty of improvements), that's not evidence that it's worse. I want to examine what motivates the author to talk about it in such terrible terms when most of the metrics I've come up with show it is the same or better to get stuff done.

"I fail to see how this is a good thing. People not used with computers will uninstall applications by mistake, and then blame Windows anyway. This is change for change sake. Bad."

Well if someone clicks an option called "Uninstall" and then confirms to the message asking them whether they want to Uninstall, then I think it's reasonable to uninstall something. Most people who are ignorant of how to manage a computer take the approach of not clicking on things that sound dangerous. (That's why they end up ignorant in the first place - no mistakes, no learning).


Re: Okay Andrew - challenge for you.

"(Or you just pin to Start Menu, or Pin to Taskbar and stop using retarded examples to make your point)."

As said, I use about twenty programs as my frequent ones. That's a lot to have pinned. Some of us don't like to have a tonne of tiny icons and I wouldn't like to see my Start menu with twenty pinned programs.

"use excel regularly enough it'll just sit in your recent programs. Or I can type ex in the search bar"

Not when you use over ten programs "regularly enough" though. Excel keeps appearing and disappearing from my Start menu and I use it pretty often. It's just that I use a lot of other programs often as well. And you can type 'ex' in Windows 8 as well, except that I find it shows up results more quickly in Win8 and also sorts them quite nicely.

You say Windows 8 doesn't bring anything to the table you desire. Well I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to those who say it is disaster as Andrew Orlowski seems to think and asking them to prove it with some actual metrics.


Re: Could be a devious scheme...

I think conspiracy theories based on Samsung and Apple being in cahoots right now are rather slim. If there are any two organizations less likely to be tag-teaming the rest of the market, it's hard to think of them. BP and Greenpeace, perhaps?


Okay Andrew - challenge for you.

You normally write fairly objective articles and like to consider yourself unbiased... Lets do some actual metrics and see how the Windows 8 interface actually is worse than Windows 7. I'll start:

The Win8 Start screen only fits about twenty programs on a typical laptop and upto around fifty on my 1920x1200 monitor. How many programs do you commonly use? Because I'm a power user and for me it still normally comes down to around twenty. So in Win8 I am always only ever two clicks away from the programs that I would normally want. Unlike in Windows 7 where if I want Excel for example, I may well have to navigate from All Programs -> Office -> Excel in the hierachical menu. So advantage Win8.

Not being a chameleon I am incapable of focusing on two distinct areas at once, therefore whether the entire page is a Start screen briefly or only the menu, in neither case do I need to be looking at the rest of the screen. So there's no inherent disadvantage in having the screen switch to a Start Screen rather than pop up a menu.

The Start screen is informational - allowing me to see at a glance the number of emails I have waiting, social networking updates, financial infomation and upcoming calendar events. The hierarchical menu is not. Advantage Windows 8.

I can uninstall programs directly from the Start screen with a right click - no having to go via the Control Panel. Advantage Windows 8.

In Windows 8 I have active corners on each of my monitors, rather than having to traverse two 24" monitors to get to the Start menu as I do in Win 7 (if I choose not to use the keyboard). Advantage Windows 8.

Windows 8 is capable of running all the same Desktop programs in the same way as Windows 7, this no disadvantage to this in Windows 8.

So go on, you're turn. No subjective issues of taste - actual metrics. Why is the "Notro" interface worse than Win7. Remember, the disadvantages must outweigh the advantages... ;)

Pint because it's a pub sort of discussion.

Mars rover will.i.am 'cast: A depressing day for space and technology


Re: In this article...

You missed off Emma Goldman's response: That a revolution without dancing was not worth having.


You are now your parents

Well done. Very poetic article. But you're arguing against something that is getting lots of people who otherwise would pay no attention to this Mars mission to notice it and maybe get interested in it. Or is the author of this article an elitist who thinks that unless someone is already hanging in out in the channels that discuss this stuff, that they don't deserve to be made aware of it.

How long is the will.i.am track? A few minutes? We can't spare a few minutes out of the entire length of the mission to get a lot of people who wouldn't have seen much coverage of the mission to be made more aware of it? Or to see that a popular celebrity and musician thinks its cool and maybe therefore it is cool? Or does the author dislike the idea that science could be cool and mainstream popular because it threatens their feeling of being better in some way?

Visual Studio 2012: 50 Shades of Grey by Microsoft


Re: Microsoft loves developers

"Clearly you are awesome. Why would anyone bother with a proper IDE when it's way cooler to write code in a simple text editor?"

Oh, you also forgot to mention that the price you mentioned includes a full MSDN subscription that gets you a copy of pretty much every MS product they make to develop against. But I guess saying £300 for their development suite wouldn't have made them sound as bad. My comment about the text editor was not really the point that I was talking about, it was just to illustrate that you don't need to pay MS anything to develop for Windows if you don't want to. You can also use products like Eclipse for free as well. I never said anything about it being better "way cooler to write in a simple text editor" that's just you resorting to mockery in place of argument. Though yes, I still do use Vi sometimes. It's very powerful and I'm comfortable using it. Whenever I'm just writing stuff out, e.g. a load of class prototyping, I tend to use it because I can work more quickly in it than most other tools. Never said anyone else needed to.


Re: Microsoft loves developers

"That's why they charge $13,299 for the Ultimate extra everything edition."

And sell the Professional version for 3% of that and give away the Express edition for free. You are aware that the Ultimate version has a tonne of performance management, environment management, version control handling, project reporting tools, architecture modelling, testing suite and is designed for development teams. You just went to MS and specifically searched for the most expensive version without any thought about who would actually need it, didn't you? If you have ten or twenty developers at $35k per year, then the $13k for the software they use doesn't sound as bad, does it? I would imagine any freelancer would be plenty happy with the Professional version for about £300 and depending on what they're working on, possibly even the free version.

Besides, you can program without Visual Studio, you know. Some of us even use text editors (vi), thanks.

Office 2013 to offer one-off apps on demand


Re: Thesis



"You need a proprietary software to handle data in a proprietary format. If your subscription expires - so does your data. OK, there may be some pirated or open source product that may or may be compatible, but then again, there may be not."

So buy an actual copy of the software that wont expire then. You don't have to use this subscription model. Or alternately, and here is the big one, save it in a non-proprietary format. Or open your Word document or whatever in Libre Office. Suggesting that the streaming version of Office makes any difference, is alarmist and demonstrably wrong.


Re: Paul Barr's Pronouncement

"If MUST install it, I'll do so onto a PC in another building, which is being used by someone else."

But that's the point. Now you don't have to install it.

Glad I could help!


"I was serious. 15s-->1*minute* to load a document and all your data 1) Readable by and 2) Subject to the capricious whims of an unfriendly entity."

You seem to be confused between online Office web apps and this streaming functionality. What we're talking about here runs locally and does not require you to upload your documents off your local machine at any point.


Re: Thesis

People who don't understand the difference between streaming the application and whether you choose to store the working files locally or elsewhere should learn more about how things work. Discuss.


Re: What could pssibly go wrong?

"So people get used to the idea of not having the software permanently on their system, but have loads of documents, then need to make a presentation or something, only to find there is no network availability of any kind at the location."

If it's your own PC, then I'd expect you to have Office installed if you plan to use it. The point with this is if you find yourself suddenly needing it, at a meeting you don't have your PC, the battery dies or whatever, you can just grab the nearest computer regardless of whose it is, and without having to worry about installs or licence keys, just log in and use a streamed version of office under your own licence.


Re: Macro's?

"A lot of company's, their paying customers, use macro's for a lot of things. From simple letterheads to complex reports with graphs. We have at least 20 that I know of, so how would this fit in our (ISO) certified workfow?"

If I could just confirm your logic here, you're basically saying we had funcitonality X, we now have functionalty X+Y, and it's a "FAIL" because the functionality is not X, + Y + Z. You would not condemn the product is the functionality were only X, but you will if it is X+Y?

And incidentally, isn't 'Z' in your argument something that you'd expect to have the local Office install anyway? I mean, if you've installed all these macros for Office, presumably you already have Office as well?

Open source author pulls code after GPL abuse


Re: "as if the original version was being abandoned"

"The reselling commercially without permission is of course enough to call in the lawyers"

No it isn't. If they provide the source code with the executable and a copy of the GPL licence, then they are free to re-sell it. The GPL (versions 2 and 3) is compatible with commercial selling of software. Normally it is sold for the support contract you get with it.

Curiosity rover hijacked by will.i.am to debut science song

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Re: Twa.Tua.Re

Congratulations on becoming your parents.

Samsung fights to stay on US shelves as Apple calls for ban


Re: Ah, don't you love capitalism

Yep - Capitalism. You never got corrupt trials under the Soviets or in modern day China or Mussolini or...


Re: power corrupts

I went to see "Brave" the other night and a dedication "in memory of Steve Jobs" came up. There was actual booing in the audience!

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