* Posts by h4rm0ny

4545 posts • joined 26 Jul 2008

English Defence League website 'defaced, pwned' by hacktivists

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Re: So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?

"Off you go then: Put together a reasonable counter-argument to mine, which is that everything typically viewed as English and 'great' and a rallying call for out cultural identity is essentially a localised import, instead of name-calling. I'd be interested to know how far back in time you want to go in order to tell me that potatoes and tea are English!"

I have one - talking about the weather. No other nationality does it like the British are obsessed with doing. It seems to be a cultural perculiarity arising from our geographic circumstances. It seems to arise spontaneously in whatever people inhabit these isles.

There you go - a definably English trait that cannot be traced to any foreign culture. Talking about the weather shall be our new culturally defining trait. Instead of that nonsense about answering questions on the Queen, immigrants will be expected to hold a conversation about the weather for ten to fifteen minutes without hesitation or repetition. If they can do that, they get the stamp and they're in. ;)

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Re: So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?

"But what's your point anyway: That we 'imported' a dish and gave it a English name, so it's not a foreign dish, but a national one? What kind of straw man argument is that?!"

When someone says: "let's all go for an Indian," we all understand they mean eat a curry. Even if somehow a curry was a Scottish invention (which is unlikely as you don't fry a curry), everyone thinks it is Indian which is good enough for the point that British culture is willing to embrace foreign cultures to its benefit. And good that it does!

Lager, to go with the curry.

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Re: EDL != Far Right

"And I'm still waiting for an example of "people leaping to label you racist". Whenever you're ready. Take your time."

Well as you don't (so far as I am aware), actually know me, I thought it would be more useful to provide you with an example of it happening to a public figure. If you now really rather I give you personal examples, well I had an argument with some people at a party last year about Islam and when I started saying what I didn't like about it, several of the people started ganging up on me and calling me a racist and wouldn't listen further. It offended their sensibilities to have someone criticizing and racist was a label that seemed close enough to them to use for someone who didn't like Islam. There you go, there's an example of it happening to me. But I stand by my first example of it happening to a public figure that you can verify as being a more useful counter-argument.

"Re-read my original post. I'm a hard atheist and secularist and have been involved in public face-to-face discussions about the dangers of conservative religion - including Islam - for about thirty years. I've never been labelled a racist. Because I'm not a racist. Which part of this is confusing you?"

None of it is confusing to me. I would just then say that your experience is atypical or you have been arguing in different situations (perhaps different demographics) than I have. And your logic that you've never been labelled a racist because you're not a racist, implies you think that someone cannot be falsely labelled as a racist. Do you really think that is so? You haven't answered my points in return, by the way.

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Re: EDL != Far Right

"One example from nearly a decade ago of a person who was never actually labelled a racist? That's convincing"

Hey, you said it was "nothing more than a straw man" and demanded examples. I could have given you examples from my own life but I decided to give you a notable one that I recalled and which is of public record. Another poster gave you another and I could spend the time finding other examples for you if you wish. But the examples given are sufficient to show that it does happen and that it is not "nothing more than a straw man". You have made your mind up on this anyway. If you genuinely can't see how easy it is to make an ad hominem attack on someone criticising Islam by blurring the boundary into calling them a racist and imagine that this doesn't happen whenever someone wants to disparage a critic (which is a frequent human tendency), then you wont be convinced by any number of examples. If you're genuinely interested in more examples, do a little reading online or try arguing against Islam in different social situations yourself. It will happen unless you happen to be of a non-White race yourself.

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Re: Shame it's just the website

"I assumed nothing. Whereas you assumed I was just assuming."

Well you wrote that EDL supporters had beaten up someone in the street followed by a colon and a link to a BBC news article. So I think I was right to infer that and you are wrong to say you weren't implying that the BBC article in some way substantiated your statement. If it was a rumour, then you should not have attempted to lend it more authority via BBC news stories.

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Re: EDL != Far Right

"If this is "certainly the case" then perhaps you can give some examples? It appears to be nothing more than a straw man."

Well, outside of my own life which is personal experience and therefore you wouldn't accept it... Polly Toynbee springs to mind. She's a columnist for the Guardian. She wrote a critical piece about Islam and was then awarded "Islamophobe of the Year Award" and bombarded with accusations of racism.

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Re: Shame it's just the website

"Also vastly, vastly out-numbered by both counter-protesters (10-to-1!) and old Bill. And yet several of them still decided to try beating someone up in the street: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-20279687

I've just read your link and nowhere does it say that several (or any) EDL members beat someone up on the street (or anywhere else). All it says is that two people were arrested on "suspected public disorder offences" which is par for the course - the police often arrest some people at protests and then later let them go without charge. Another person it says, was arrested on "suspicion of assault". Nowhere does it say whether the alleged perpetrators were members of the EDL or members of the counter-protest that outnumbered them ten to one and assembled with the stated objective of stopping them getting to the City Hall. It could easily be the other way around to how you have assumed. There have been several instances where anti-EDL protestors have attacked EDL members. In one instance, attacking their bus.

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Re: EDL != Far Right

"The only people who claim that people beleive that "criticism of Islam is rascist" are those trying to defend a rascist postion themselves"

If I parsed the above correctly, then I disagree. It is quite possible to be critical of Islam without being racist. I don't think that really needs supporting here, but for example, I greatly dislike Islam's position on homosexuals, I dislike its practice of animals having to be concious and feeling when killed and that they must die through bleeding to death. Unless you're going to be incredibly strict on your interpretation and exclude vast bodies of Islamic tradition, then I also greatly dislike its prescriptions on the role of women. Yet I have actually dated people of races that are traditionally muslim though they themselves are non-practicing to the point of heresy, and got a long mostly fine. And I've spent time in muslim countries without feeling antipathy or contempt for the locals. Criticism of Islam is not by itself racist.

But it's certainly the case that when you criticize Islam, you will find people leaping to accuse of racism, bigotry, etc. It's unfortunate, but it does happen. I cannot accept that criticism of Islam is racist, else you rule out ever criticising Islam (or religion in general if you apply the principle fairly).

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Re: Not Helpful

Actually, furthermore, there is a physical risk to both people and property involved here. Members of the EDL have been attacked for their membership or attendence at events. Circulating a list around like this (and assuming it was actually genuine - good luck proving you're not supposed to be on it), is circulating a list of targets for some.

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Re: Not Helpful

"I'm sure EDL members will have no problem with it anyway, as I'm sure they'll be proud of their membership"

Then you would be wrong. How would you like it if your place of work or prospective employer could look up your political history and use that as a basis for hiring you or not? Though I expect a double-standard along the lines of you would make an exception for groups that you personally don't approve of.

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Re: Shame it's just the website

"There are videos on Youtube of various EDL supporters on marches being interviewed and they really don't know why they're marching."

Having had a fair bit of experience with the media when I was protesting against the Iraq war and in a few other cases (such as when I worked in the NHS), I can say confidently that most papers and the BBC, when interviewing a hundred people able to put a reasonable point across and a couple of people who prefer to rant incoherently, will normally choose to show the latter. Remember that massive image of a man in a balaclava kicking in the window of a McDonalds that was splashed across most newspapers some years ago? Over a million people marching in overwhelmingly peaceful protest, and that was the image that was on every front page.

The media shows what the media wants to show. Most people who have ever been interviewed by the mainstream media can tell you a story about that. Same goes for your YouTube videos. What is a critic going to post, an EDL member clearly putting a point across about how slaughtering animals without stunning because of a religious edict against it is wrong to them, or the bloke who went along because his mates were on it?

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EDL != Far Right

Pretty much see title. Do they have political views on economy, social welfare or other areas that can be (haphazardly) defined as Right or Left Wing? No. The flawed process in some people's minds is as follows:

1. EDL critical of Islam.

2. I think criticism of Islam is racist.

3. I like to say that racism is the preserve of the Right Wing because I am Left Wing.

4. Whales are mammals, therefore mammals are whales. Mammals are hairy.

5. Shave the whales.

And no, the EDL are not the BNP either.

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Even a CHILD can make a Trojan to pillage Windows Phone 8

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Re: I suppose

@RICHTO. I'm not sure that what you post really makes much difference (I haven't checked your figures). There certainly are vulnerabilities for both Linux distributions and Windows Server. A competent cracker will be running through all the latest ones if they're targetting your servers. Whilst number of vulnerabilities is obviously relevant, the far more significant factor is actually how quickly they are updated and how rigorous the sysadmins are in both applying those updates and in configuring things right in the first place.

I use Linux servers for the time being (I have one Windows Server I was asked to set up for a colleague) but I would take a Linux server managed by someone who knew what they were doing and wasn't overworked, over a Windows server managed by a different person, and vice versa any day of the week.

Show me stats not on numbers of vulnerabilities, but on how quickly they are made available to the users, and you might start to convince me. But other than that, Sysadmin competency is the first weakness, ime.

(Caveat: I am a programmer and a project manager, not a sysadmin. But I've known enough).

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Re: I suppose

"iPhone and Linux are secure, real devs program for those environments."

Now I know that you're an idiot. Having spent a merry month last September sorting out vulnerabilities in some code written and running on a Linux platform, I can tell you that there are good and bad programmers everywhere.

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Re: > Any registered app can do that.

"It's a nice theory, but utterly unworkable in practice. Even assuming you could constrain an app in that fashion..."

It's not apps generally, but the new system of web-plugins for MS Office 2013 actually *does* do this. Sort of. There's a deployment system for them, written in XML, that defines what they may do right down to whitelists of websites or servers if you want. It's not a general app thing, but if you're running a corporate environment and you want to use a plugin for Office and know that it is only capable of communicating with server X or can only affect particular files on the system or what have you, then you can check the deployment code for the plugin and know that (vulnerabilities not withstanding), it can't do anything else.

Far better than a pile of VB code.

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"The point is that an application needs to go through the approval process before going to the store. So while anyone can write malware, getting it out into the wild is more difficult now."

Furthermore, when you install something from the store, you can see the permissions list for what it can access. So if you're installing a game and it says it wants to access your People hub, you can ask why it would need that and say no. And if something does make it through, when MS pull it, you will know about it.

This is a really shoddy and sensationalistic article. No details other than those which suggest it's just a regular program relying on user authorisation. They just wanted to try and force a headline about A CHILD CAN CRACK WP8!

Trollface for the Reg hack that wrote this article. No wonder I'm getting more of my news from The Verge these days (much like The Reg is ;)

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China's robot population to lead world by 2014

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What the West should be doing...

The increasing capability of robots may be the only thing that stops the West going into a real slump. Outsourcing production jobs to China is cheaper than local unskilled labour. But local robots are cheaper still. In both the latter cases unemployment rises, but in the latter case, money is clawed back through local taxes and less money going abroad. We're on the edge of a second wave of automation of unskilled work with things like Baxter. It really depends how quickly this sort of technology becomes mainstream.

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Man, 19, cuffed after burning Remembrance poppy pic is Facebooked

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Re: Poppycock!

<blockquote>Probably another one of those foreigners stuck in the middle ages who follow that guy who invented a religeon while shagging a 9 year old girl. Rather like Rob Hubbard inventing Scientology but a bit less believable....Muslims - that's the one</blockquote>

Plenty of Brits feel the same way. Their country of origin and religion is really immaterial to their action. Perhaps they have had relatives killed by British forces. That could apply to someone from Ireland as much as it could from Pakistan. And in either case you might do the same in such circumstances.

As to the tiresome paedophile jab - historical record suggests he married her. Some records indicate she was 9, others that she was older. Even if she were nine, at that time and place, marriage could just be a way of protecting a girl without family, it wouldn't necessarily mean consummation. He had multiple wives - that's pretty reprehensible and even if the last wife was sixteen at the time of marriage, that's also still not great. But the paedophile jab isn't very supportable with what we have at the moment.

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"poppies are for those that fought in ww1 and 2. the great wars for our freedoms from nazi invasion."

The NAZIs didn't exist in WW1 - that was a war between mostly monarchical colonial powers over territory. Also, I think Poppies are for British war-dead generally rather than just those that died in WW1 and WW2. Otherwise, the Irish might have less of a problem with something that otherwise commemorates British soldiers who were active for several decades in Northern Ireland. The money raised from the Poppy Sales goes to the Royal British Legion - a charity for all soliders and their families, very much including those today.

"flame away. i know this will be controversial."

I don't think it's contraversial, I think you're just incorrect on what you think Rememberance Poppies symbolize.

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Re: Free speech?

"Free speech, I'd imagine there would be a fair few people who know or knew people being honoured by the poppy who would love to express there free speech in burning this chap alive"

And were they alive, and did they try to do so, I hope you would join me in condemning such people as psychopaths.

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Re: Free speech?

"What;s your view about peeing on a cenotaph - guess that's acceptable?"

My view on it is that it is different to making a political statement on a website. And if it's a political gesture, then it should be punished only to the degree that urinating in some other public place is punishable, not extra punisment heaped upon it because it causes offense to a segment of society.

Causing offense can be punishable when it's harrassment. If you send offensive messages to the widow of a soldier, that's punishable. Making broad political statements, even if some don't like it, is not harrassment.

This whole veneration of the dead, reminds me of who upset people were by Chaser's War on Everything where they made a very well put point (to music), but upset quite a few people. Sometimes it is okay to speak ill of the dead. I fully expect people to do it about me!

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Re: Free speech? @AC

"The intolerance of the liberal left never ceases to amaze me. You can be heard only if you agree with me. You have a right to an opinion but only if it is the same as mine."

The poster you're replying to never said anything like that. They said that "Daily Mail" readers should be allowed the same voice as everyone else and they they could exposed as the [negative people] they are. There was nothing in their post about punishing those people or stopping them from speaking. I agree it's ridiculous to make sweeping statements about Daily Mail readers (I know at least one very nice one), but the poster said nothing like what you say they did.

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Re: @Jemma

"Whilst I might agree with you about volunteer soldiers, it's worth remembering that a great majority of soldiers in WW1 and WW2 were conscripts, who had very little choice"

Modded you up, but logically, doesn't that make the enemy of those who died their own government?

Burning a poppy could be regarded as a political statement of all sorts of things. Quite probably, the gesture is meant that the burner sees the poppies as a legitimizing of war and burning it a rejection of that. If that's their position, it's perfectly acceptable as a political statement (though obviously not acceptable to some). Poppies are for rememberance of those that died. Maybe the burner feels that invading far away countries such as Iraq or Afghanistan and killing tens of thousands there is something that shouldn't be put forward as a symbol of heroism. Again, a supportable point of view.

Maybe they were just trolling and wanted to cause offense? Who knows. But this should not be anything they get arrested for.

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You know who else hates Windows 8? Hackers

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Re: Secure Boot

"Yes, and naturally, because of the superior security of Windows 8… even though the boot sector, not normally accessible to userland applications, has been compromised, the system recovery data will still be magically intact and bootable.

Now someone please help me up off the floor, I can barely stand from laughing so hard"

You obviously don't understand Secure Boot or you would have realized that anything from the recovery data will be subject to the same checks. Think about it - if the OS cannot alter the keys in UEFI, then how could code running from the recovery partition which is (to UEFI) just another OS?

Before you laugh so hard, you should familiarize yourself with how this works.

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Windows boss Steve Sinofsky exits Microsoft

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He may just be knackered after all the work on a big new release or have just been hanging on to see it out the door. Conspiracy theories without substance from people who hate the company don't really carry any weight. Though there will be plenty here who don't like this comment and think conjecture without evidence is worth more.

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Coders grill Herb Sutter on future of C++ at Microsoft

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Re: Usage FAIL

Future History? Aasimov has prior art.

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Microsoft rolls out always-on Skype for Windows Phone 8

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Re: Unique ?

"I am guessing that the "story" is just a bit of a cack-handed retreading of a press release. The truth is probably something unremakable, like they've made an attempt to let Skype run in the background as a slightly slimmer server, popping up the whole interface as needed?"

Yeah - it's cack-handed. Nothing stops you either setting it to Invisible status or closing the app completely. All this really means is that it can run in the background and still listen for incoming messages and calls; and that it can integrate them into the People and Message hubs.

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Re: Magic!

"Now they've got that out of the way, maybe they can get round to fixing some of the more pressing issues in the Android version"

And now you see why when Skype appeared and began to kill off open VoIP networks just as they were starting to emerge, many of us raged against it. People shouldn't have adopted it, but they did. Now we're all going to have to sit around waiting for the EU to mandate that the Skype network be broken open before someone can write an Open Source client.

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"For you to think your use case of Skype is the general case is equally ignorant."

Logically not so. Putting up their counter-example of their needs differing doesn't show that your needs are less valid, but it does undermine your assumption that it is fine for all users. Which I believe was their intent.

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"I don't see people complaining that their phone is 'always on' for phone calls and text messages. Being always on for Skype is fine, ON A PHONE."

I do. When a client txts me at midnight to ask a question that could have waited till morning, it's very annoying. The problem is that there's no group control in Skype (unless it's been added to a later version than I'm running on my Desktop). That means I need to have different Skype accounts for work and non-work. Something that isn't really possible as I can only run one instance of Skype on my phone / computer and the times I will need them will overlap.

The reason you don't see people complaing that their phone is always on as often (though it does happen), is because when it's just a phone number, people don't normally take your availability for granted. When you have something that says: "Available", they assume that means you're just sitting there hoping they'll come and ask you questions.

MS should have focused on Lync as that is far superior to Skype for business use (and personal, I guess). I just hope they never take that away in favour of Skype.

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Microsoft Surface Touch keyboards self-destruct – and more

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Re: It just keeps getting better,

"Oh, yes, we are supposed to be discussing hardware. I want a netbook with a 9 inch monochrome electric paper display, proper keyboard and a battery life measured in weeks. Sort of like a Kindle mated to an AlphaSmart. Anyone rate my chances?"

Unlikely because of the combination of keyboard and electronic paper. The refresh rate on the latter makes it unsuitable for use with fast input methords such as full keyboard. One of the early Kindle's had keyboard with e-paper, but it had limited usefulness even then. Maybe if there are faster versions of e-paper out there that I haven't seen yet, but I'm afraid you're probably out of luck with the complete list of requirements. If fuel-cells regain popularity as an area of research, you might see much longer battery lifes, though I think they've been shelved for the time being.

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Re: No sympathy

I don't think they're particularly crying for sympathy. From one of the posters in the thread linked in the article:

"All this aside, I have to emphasize that I think the Surface, with the Windows 8 live tile interface, is a technological generation ahead of iOS and Android. I'm extremely satisfied with the device and would never think of exchanging it for any other tablet. Let's hope we don't get quoted out of context again by some in the media that lift our posts."

Something that was missed from the screaming headlnie in the Register. Every day, they get a little more like the Daily Mail or the Sun in their pursuit of clicks.

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Re: It just keeps getting better,

"Lets see, I'm a disabled, lesbian, atheist living in America and you ask me why the Tea Party's sorrow and Mitt Romey's failure fills me with soft joy? Really?"

Not really, no. I was asking why you expressed pleasure at seeing people suffer from defective products. "Schadenfreude" was the word you used. I.e. pleasure in other's misfortunes. You threw in the jab at Republicans yourself and I'm neither interested in that aspect nor sure how you expect me to know that you are disabled, lesbian or atheist.

"As for Microsoft, I spent 20 years fixing their junk. I earned my right to enjoy their sorrow, they certainly profited from mine"

Presumably what you actually earned was money and if you spent twenty years doing it, I can only assume you must have got some satisfaction from it (if only the joy of complaining) else you would have done something else - twenty years is plenty of time for you to have re-skilled and, for example, come over and joined us on the UNIX side of the fence.

That aside, your bitterness is not a good reason for present enjoyment at some other people's problems. It doesn't exactly lead to a better world. Presumably you think that MS replacing a few keyboard covers is a step toward their destruction. They had to do a lot more replacements of Xboxes some time ago, and the Xbox is very popular today, is it not?

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Re: It just keeps getting better,

"I'm already having schadenfreude overload watching the Fox Newsies cry about the election, now I get to watch the Surface pull itself apart?"

Why do you enjoy seeing other people have problems?

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Re: On fire?

"I would buy a Nexus 7 that was currently on fire before any sort of Surface"

Well if you actually meant that, I would happily buy a series of Nexus 7's, set fire to them and exchange them on a one to one basis for SurfaceRTs with you and by your value system you would be coming out ahead. But I suspect you don't actually mean that. If you do, just let me know... ;)

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Hacker sentenced to six years – WITH NO INTERNET

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Re: Ahh, kids of today eh?

"The occasional pyromancy"

I think you mean pyromania, unless where you grew up in has some strict anti-witchcraft laws.

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Re: Any commenters here have their CC hacked?

"Additionally, I suspect part of the plea deal is the US gubmint gets his services on an on-call basis in perpetuity."

Trust me, the US government does not need the services of middling-level script kiddies. His value is limited solely to his ability to turn in other criminals. An ability that one supposes is quite limited now he is publically compromised and any information he does possess already obtained.

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Swedish boffins: An Ice Age is coming, only CO2 can save us

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Re: Ice age?

"That simply means there is a vertical axis. Which end of that axis is 'up' or 'down' is merely convention."

But either way, there is an up and a down whichever is which. So the original point is right. Or would if they hadn't misunderstood "cap" to mean a type of head-clothing, rather than in the sense of things that "cap" the ends of something.

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Nokia Lumia 920 Windows Phone 8 handset review

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Re: More mugs queing up to be reamed.

"The 10 people interested in the Lumia 920, are making the same sounds at the 12 people that were interested in the Lumia 900, and look how that turned out for them."

Extraordinary that at the time of posting, it seems six of the those ten people have already downvoted you. What are the chances that so many of the nation's ten people interested in this phone would be El Reg readers and present on this story?

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Stob on Quatermass: Was this British TV's finest sci-fi hour?

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Re: Quatermass and the pit

Aside from the visualization of memories (maybe it seemed plausible to them back then), the plot is a masterpiece of believability. Modern horror relies primarily on scaring the audience directly - I guess it is easier to show a monster in a mirror or hurl an unexpected body at the camera. But the film version of Quatermass and the Pit provokes fear by making us emphathize with the characters and scaring them.

Both the face and the voice of that workman, confused beyond belief by what he was seeing, has stayed with me a long time:

Quatermass: "What colour is the sky, man? The sky! What colour is it?"

Workman: "...brown..." (goes to pieces).

Top stuff.

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Scotland Yard arrests female computer hacking suspect

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It's nice to have a change from all those Reg headlines that state "male hacker arrested". Oh wait, The Reg never does actually specify gender unless they think they can get a few extra clicks by printing the word "female". So when do the Reg and the Daily Mail finally complete their merger?

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Widow lost savings in Facebook stock, sues all concerned for $1.9m

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Re: An idiot and their money are soon parted.

You should have quite while you were behind.

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"Were any laws actually broken?"

That's for the court to decide but as she's not actually one of Morgan Stanley's customers, I'd say that severely diminishes her ability to sue them. They give advice to their clients and if a third party gets hold of that advice and acts on it, I'm not sure she has a legal basis to sue.

I started off being semi-sympathetic when reading this story (even though I and many others were all pointing out that Facebook was a disaster waiting to happen and everyone should have been clearly warned by it's insane P/E ratio). But that sympathy took a second substantial hit when I saw that the figure sued for includes $1million for suffering. No doubt it was really horrible thinking she'd lost all that money, but (a), it's a pretty ill-defined thing to sue for and (b), if you invest $1,000,000 dollars and a shareprice drop wipes out $100,000 (the compensatory damages figure), you still have $900,000 which is a figure many of us would like to have.

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Are you an IT pro? It's no longer safe to bet your career on Microsoft

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Re: Surface is not the same as Windows 8

"IE isn't a desktop app in Win8RT."

I'm literally running IE on a SurfaceRT right now. Check your facts before trying to correct someone.

"Also you're an astroturfer, so I hope you got paid for that post."

No, I'm not. False accusations as a way of discrediting someone's argument (particularly when it's a factual argument that can be checked and found that I am right), is a pretty poor means of conducting yourself.

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Re: Shifting languages / platforms

"Linux distros should not be using it, it's controversial due to patents, and it is not needed by most. It can always be an option in the repos for those that want it. Personally I always uninstall Mono."

Same here. Increasingly programs are designed to be web-based. Therefore cross-platform compatability can matter a lot less than it used to. It doesn't matter to the client whether your program is running in PHP, ASP or Python. When you do want to write something cross-platform, Python is a lovely language.

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Re: Surface is not the same as Windows 8

"Win8RT is to Win8 what iOS is to OSX, except that you can run Win8RT apps under Win8."

WinRT is a lot more fully-featured than iOS from what I've seen. For one easy example, can you run a multiple windowed Office suite on iOS?

"Its stripped-down version of Office uses the desktop, nothing else is allowed to. Presumably a tacit admission that TIFKAM simply isn't suitable for non-trivial applications"

IE can still run on the Desktop, as does file manager, control panel, the vastly improved Task Manager... As to "non-trivial applications", is a browser non-trivial? An email client? Probably there will be a MUI version of Office one day, but re-coding the whole thing to run that way must be an epic task.

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Re: Another article from the Windows "Bubble"

Didn't we just do this dance in the last article's comments section with you trying to find all sorts of reasons why Powershell was inferior and Windows was rubbish? Having cut my teeth on HP UNIX 11 over a decade ago and been working on Unix or Linux platforms of one kind or another pretty much ever since, I find it rather patronising to be told that if I look at UNIX I "might even understand why those advanced features of Power Shell are essentially useless." Seeing as on Monday you didn't even understand some of the features of Power Shell and were commenting that it was rubbish even then, you seem to have merely made up your mind and now adopted the position that maybe it can do some new things, but they're rubbish so you're still right.

I've used Bash and I've used Bourne before it and have been doing so for a long time. Power Shell has taken that and built on it with some nice new ideas as well. Maybe a couple of years down the line Linux will take some of the features Windows has brought in and incorporate them, just as MS have built on the design ideas of Bash. It's called progress. And your patronizing comment on how if we read more about Unix we'd value that progress less, is pretty much insulting to the principles that made UNIX what it is.

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Surface more profitable than iPad

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The total install also includes MS Office Preview edition (Excel, Word, Powerpoint). And a lot of apps on WinRT are already integrated and installed on the system so those are included also.

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"I get the impression (partially from the lack of discounting) that Apple offer nearly zero margins and people only stock them to try to sell some accessories/warranty with them. I don't think MS will get away with that trick!"

Good. Nor should Apple. But at least neither is actually subsidized. What I'd really like to see is the same tear-down analysis applied to things like the new Kindle or that Chromebook, so we can see exactly how much money Google and Amazon need to get back from people in order to break even on these things.

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I actually have a Surface. Been using it for over a week now. Honestly, the screen is fine. Everything is very clear and it's extremely easy to read text on it. Haven't used it for video much yet, but it's good so far.

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